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China's CO2 Output Fueled By Us
I've wondered about this for a while, as it becomes all too easy to blame China and do nothing ourselves. Now we learn that one quarter of China's greenhouse gas emissions are produced making goods exported to the West. The report by the UK's Tyndall Centre worked with 2004 data, the latest available. The percentage may well be higher now. The authors concluded: "The extent of 'exported carbon' from China should lead to some rethinking by government negotiators as they work towards a new climate change agreement."
Julia Whitty is Mother Jones' environmental correspondent. You can read from her new book, The Fragile Edge, and other writings, here.
Comments
Surprisingly, pointing this out to people on the right does not seem to make any point. I don't get that.
Another point that I have found completely and utterly fails to come across is the fact that even without accounting for the U.S. portion of the CO2 output from China, the U.S. is still BY FAR, the largest emitter of CO2 per capita. This means that each and every one of us can do more than any other people on the planet to combat global warming.
You are right Scott about the Americans being the biggest emitters. You can start by not stuffing your big mouths with so much food and then being fat fart machines. Also, you Americans talk too much. Yap, yap, yap. Try being silent more. Talking produces CO2, farts produce CO2. We are thin in China. My father tells me that I am very pretty being thin and not big and fat like your women.
Posted by: Lucy Dong on 10/20/07 at 1:12 PM Respond
Lucy,
I'm also right that you are a troll. I recognize that particular rant. You give that every time you post, don't you?
Does it bother you to fail the Turing Test?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
Does it bother you that computer programs like Eliza and Racter present a more interesting conversation than you do?
Posted by: Misanthropic Scott on 10/20/07 at 7:34 PM Respond
Here are the links for Eliza and Racter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racter
Posted by: Misanthropic Scott on 10/20/07 at 7:35 PM Respond
Additionally, about 50 percent of China’s greenhouse gas emissions are produced simply to protect her from the Imperial West’s misconceived predatory economic adventurism!
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Lucy Dung,
You are as much Chinese as Bibi N (!) Is Tibetan, but that’s for another time. Your disinformation concerning flatulence is shamelessly odorous.
The components of the average flatus (in percentages) include
Oxygen – 7%
Nitrogen - 45%
Methane – 7%
Hydrogen - 25%
CO2 - 15%
Other - 1%
[Some variations exist according to the national/regional diet, ethnicity and climate.]
Posted by: Izhac FickleStein on 10/20/07 at 10:36 PM Respond
The major greenhouse gases are water vapor, which causes about 36-70% of the greenhouse effect on Earth (not including clouds); carbon dioxide, which causes 9-26%; methane, which causes 4-9%, and ozone, which causes 3-7%. It is not possible to state that a certain gas causes a certain percentage of the greenhouse effect, because the influences of the various gases are not additive. (The higher ends of the ranges quoted are for the gas alone; the lower ends, for the gas counting overlaps.)[3][4] Other greenhouse gases include, but are not limited to, nitrous oxide, sulfur hexafluoride, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and chlorofluorocarbons (see IPCC list of greenhouse gases).
The major atmospheric constituents (nitrogen, N2 and oxygen, O2) are not greenhouse gases. This is because homonuclear diatomic molecules such as N2 and O2 neither absorb nor emit infrared radiation, as there is no net change in the dipole moment of these molecules when they vibrate.
Just flatus moderately. Our diet is not the same as cows. They are vegetarians. Vegetarians in our society contribute more to green house gases than meat eaters. Eat Meat, fight green house gases.
Posted by: Ms. Science on 10/21/07 at 7:15 AM Respond
Ms. Science,
Obviously, in order to eat meat, one must have meat to eat. When we ranch cattle, it contributes more GHGs than we would if we were all vegans.
In truth, the most efficient source of protein is actually herbivorous fish. A farm that grows soy, the most efficient vegetarian source of protein, will produce less protein per acre than a farm that grows grains and feeds them to carp, tilapia, or catfish in a small pond on the farm.
Alternately, one can at least eat meat that is a native species to one's own continent, which has a lower impact than non-native species. Still though, carp, tilapia, and catfish are our best sources of protein.
Posted by: Misanthropic Scott on 10/22/07 at 10:03 AM Respond
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Posted by: Misanthropic Scott on 10/20/07 at 12:43 PM Respond