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in the last trimester of her pregnancy, Helena Moran caught a cough that she couldn't get rid of. She figured she'd picked up the germ—whatever it was—from one of her patients at a Boulder dentist's office. But the real nightmare began after her daughter, Evelina, was born: The baby began to cough and cough, and then she'd curl up in a little ball and turn blue. At the emergency room, she was diagnosed with whooping cough. She spent the next five weeks in intensive care and suffered permanent lung damage.

It turned out that by working in Boulder—one of the wealthiest, most well-educated towns in the country—Moran had put herself at risk of contracting a disease that largely disappeared after widespread vaccination against it began in the 1950s. Since the early 1990s, whooping cough has periodically whipped through Boulder, where a large percentage of parents do not immunize their children, public health officials say.

There's a Boulder in almost every state. Childhood vaccination rates nationwide are near record levels, in part thanks to a Clinton-era program that guarantees free vaccines for the poor. But as I learned while researching my book, Vaccine, a history of immunization, resistance is also growing, especially among affluent and well-educated people—to the point where living in a place with a high percentage of PhDs is a risk factor for whooping cough. "These are people who know better," ucla whooping cough expert James Cherry told me, "but they don't know enough."

Vaccine resisters are motivated by a range of convictions—immunization isn't "natural" (the wellness set), it's suspect because it's government mandated (Christian home-schoolers), and so on—but the movement got a huge boost from the controversy over the mercury-laden preservative thimerosal, which some theorized might be linked to autism. That link has been disproven—by, if nothing else, the fact that autism rates remained steady after pediatricians and public health authorities told manufacturers to stop making thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines in 1999. But the anti-vaccine movement has kept going, finding ever new reasons to distrust immunization. Some, including celebrity pediatrician Dr. Robert W. Sears, have raised fears about aluminum in the shots, while others—like the 2,000 or so protesters at a Washington rally this June—simply charge that kids get "too many vaccines" full of "dangerous toxins" that overwhelm their immune systems.

The skeptics have many things going for them: our justifiable distrust of medical authority; our admiration for do-it-yourselfers, mavericks, and the self-taught; even a dose of celebrity appeal from the likes of Charlie Sheen, Jenny McCarthy, and Jim Carrey. What most of them don't have is an understanding of the science. Thanks to vaccines, polio and diphtheria are now pretty well confined to the world's medical backwaters. But tetanus lives everywhere in soil and rusty nails, and as many as 6 million Americans are exposed to whooping cough each year, according to surveys of blood antibodies. This year, measles has returned, with the worst US outbreak since 2001. Most of the patients have been unvaccinated children and adults, and nearly a quarter have been hospitalized. In Third World countries with no measles vaccination, the disease killed nearly a quarter-million children in 2006.

Current medical practice is to vaccinate babies against whooping cough beginning at two months of age. Widespread vaccination creates "herd immunity"—the disease has fewer hosts, which means there are fewer people to spread it to those at serious risk, from immunocompromised adults (think chemotherapy patients) to newborns such as Evelina Moran and Teddy Hickenlooper, the infant son of Denver mayor John Hickenlooper, who caught whooping cough from an unvaccinated older child in 2002.

Here's where we get to the deeper, fundamentally progressive reason for vaccination: The point is to protect not merely ourselves, but the community. To not vaccinate is to threaten the immunological commons, the array of trillions of antibodies and T cells that decades of vaccination have built up in our bodies, draping a web of germ-fighting agents around our most vulnerable neighbors. To not vaccinate is to affirm an overweening individuality. It's a form of selfishness.

Right now, in many states, all it takes to get an exemption from vaccine requirements is signing a form. Some, including a group of doctors at Johns Hopkins University, have proposed making it harder—allowing a philosophical exemption only after parents demonstrate a good-faith effort to educate themselves.

True, medical experts have failed us before; to make sure they are doing their job, we need to strongly support the public health programs whose job it is to watch out for serious adverse reactions to vaccines. But while questioning authority is healthy, facts are facts. If vaccines really were responsible for autism, it would be too much to ask parents to do the altruistic thing. But more than a dozen studies have failed to discover such a link—and not a single legitimate study has shown that one exists. I have spent many, many hours reading these studies and talking to vaccine scientists. I find no reason to believe Jim Carrey more than I believe them. Call me a dupe of the establishment, but I'd rather trust the doctors.

Arthur Allen is the author of Vaccine: The Controversial Story of Medicine's Greatest Lifesaver.



 

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Your doctors are paid and taught by Big business pharmaceutical companies, and while your at it be sure to trust your government!
Posted by:R PeltzerSeptember 10, 2008 9:51:46 PMRespond ^
Since when does Mother Jones publish corporate propoganda? As a chemist with 27 years of experience evaluating material for mercury, I have never tested anything that even approaches the amount of mercury I found in multi-dose childhood vaccine vials. Nothing has even come close! What's worse is that ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines and seed fungicides, has been shown to be more toxic than methylmercury due to its rapid conversion to Hg++ in the brain. We also had a whooping cough outbreak in my state, over 95% of the 4000 were vaccinated. I will never buy/read Mother Jones again.
Posted by:Mike WagnitzSeptember 10, 2008 9:56:07 PMRespond ^
Arty Farty, all we're asking for are safe shots. Stop yipping about the anti-vaxers. Clean up the shots, start after 2 years, spread out the schedule, stop mandating more and more vaxes for non-deadly diseases, and most of us will be fine with the damn vax program.
Posted by:AnneSSeptember 10, 2008 10:06:49 PMRespond ^
What happened?
Did Mother Jones get cyberjacked!
What's next Alex Jones to expound on the virtues of the globalization?
Sad day for journalism.
Posted by:Mark D.September 10, 2008 10:08:15 PMRespond ^
Being a father of a child diagnosed with autism last year and doing some 8 months of research on autism,immunity systems and doctors I can tell you at least one thing.
By you saying "Call me a dupe of the establishment, but I'd rather trust the doctors." is blindly and ignorantly throwing your "trust" away.
Most all doctors are decent people, the problem stems from their "practice", most all doctors do what the medical association tells them to and just who do you think controls the medical association? That's right BIG BUSINESS.
Doctors,FDA,MA,politicians and just about every other entity you have to protect YOU, the common person of your land has been bought and paid for for the last 20 years.
Enlighten yourselves and do a google search on something called "Codex Alimentarius"
You can go to there nice rosey site here
http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp
and try to decipher what it is they are doing.
Or you can use this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634
as a guide and see where it is we are really heading.
Follow the guide and you be the judge.
"Money is the root of all evil"
"Corporations are the evil that grows from those roots"
Wake up before it is truly too late.
Good luck..we will need it.
Posted by:KenSeptember 10, 2008 11:32:37 PMRespond ^
My dad had polio as a baby in the early 1900's and had one leg shorter than the other. Walked with a limp his whole life and his back hurt him all the time. He's lucky he was a functioning adult. My parents were very careful about making sure I was vaccinated and I have made sure my children are up-to date. None of us are autistic.
Posted by:Claire CSeptember 11, 2008 12:34:04 AMRespond ^
That's great, Claire, but 1 in 100 children are not as lucky as your kids so shut up!
Posted by:clairesuxSeptember 11, 2008 12:48:51 AMRespond ^
Mike Wagnitz likes to inflate his job duties and credentials. He is incorrect when he says there is a lot of mercury in multi-dose vials of childhood vaccines. None of them contain a biologically significant amount, except certain varieties of influenza vaccine. And do you know what? That's been true since 2002 and autism has continued to climb just as fast! Use some critical thinking and leave the urban legend of vaccines causing autism to the dank corners of the internet.
Posted by:Vaccines save livesSeptember 11, 2008 1:28:35 AMRespond ^
There is no proven link between mercury and autism, thimerosal and autism, or aluminum and autism. Nonetheless, mercury and thimerosal levels in current vaccines are virtually nil, and autism rates remain constant or are on the increase. Either something not yet posited about vaccines causes autism, or autism is completely unrelated to vaccines. Rather than shouting reactionary cries of "shill!" perhaps the present anti-vaccine brigade could supply some scientific evidence to support their position, not just conspiracy theories and unsourced beliefs? I've no doubt there is corruption in the pharmaceutical industry, but that doesn't invalidate good research.

No one here has suggested a reputable alternate authority on the safety of modern vaccines. Jim Carrey and girlfriend Jenny McCarthy don't count. Just as having a child with leukemia does not automatically make one an expert on its causes, having a child with autism does not automatically grant one an in-depth understanding of its causes. It makes you care. It makes you want answers. It makes you much more likely to be interested in seeking out answers. Without critical thinking and education based in understanding reputable research, there's no guarantee that the answers you find will be anything close to right. McCarthy's anti-vaccine, Indigos and Crystals line on autism, so far as I can tell, is nowhere close to right.

If you say you want a safe vaccine, implying you don't believe you have one already, please be so kind as to describe what constitutes a safe vaccine in your opinion, and how safety could be proven.

It would also be lovely if we could have a civil discussion here. With namecalling ("arty farty?") and yelling at people to shut up for holding differing opinions, so far no one has done anything to improve my opinion of the anti-vaccine case. If anything, several of you have further undermined whatever legitimacy your group could hope to claim in my mind.

And before someone yells at *me* to shut up, mu cousin is autistic, as is my friend's teenaged son. I am friends with people with varying degrees of autism and Asperger syndrome. I have Asperger syndrome myself. Their views are not unified, but many would disagree with the idea that autism is "too much" to "pay," or that autism is "suffered" by autistics. One reference for that contingent's position is autismcrisis.blogspot.com

The chances of a child developing the autism that causes parents to recoil in horror is smaller than that same child contracting a disease preventable by vaccine. Evidence to date does not show that vaccines cause autism to begin with. Choosing not to vaccinate is still unlikely to cause harm, but it is more likely to cause harm than vaccinating.
Posted by:LibbySeptember 11, 2008 1:40:40 AMRespond ^
'corporate propoganda', 'arty farty', 'complete idiot', 'clairesux' and a commenter who thinks vaccines are the tool of the Illuminati.

Truly, these are the people who represent the cream of the autism/antivaccine movement.

Thank you Mr Allen for shining a light on these people. The rest of us parents of autistic people don't think vaccines cause autism.

Please vaccinate your child.
Posted by:KevSeptember 11, 2008 2:29:25 AMRespond ^
On the Seventh Anniversary of 9/11, I am not reassured by the anti-vax merchants of disease, disability and death. They want dead and disabled children.
Posted by:TheProbeSeptember 11, 2008 5:57:12 AMRespond ^
Thank you for another great article.

I've got autistic triplets, and while I can understand the fear and desperation of newly-diagnosed parents who need something to "blame", hopefully SOON we can put the time and energy that's being wasted on such a clearly-proven issue into actually helping autistic people to build better lives for themselves. To me that's at least as good a reason to listen to the science as the horrendous issues in public health that we're going to be facing in our future thanks to non-immunization.
Posted by:JenSeptember 11, 2008 6:11:28 AMRespond ^
"Some hack journalists understands the science but a bunch of PhDs in Boulder don't? Get a clue!"

If the Ph. D. earned is not in an appropriate field (e. g., medical sciences, applied biology, toxicology, pharmacology, etc)... it's likely that they won't understand the science so well.

That would be the 'clue'.
Posted by:David N. Andrews M. EdSeptember 11, 2008 7:54:10 AMRespond ^
If I had to be a shill, I'll choose Galileo over Jenny McCarthy.
Posted by:AutismNewsBeatSeptember 11, 2008 8:42:41 AMRespond ^
"Arty Farty, all we're asking for are safe shots. Stop yipping about the anti-vaxers. Clean up the shots, start after 2 years, spread out the schedule, stop mandating more and more vaxes for non-deadly diseases, and most of us will be fine with the damn vax program."

You already have "safe" shots, with constant efforts to make them even safer. Moreover, waiting until age 2 leaves babies vulnerable to serious diesease like pertussis.

The problem is, antivaccinationists like yourself will not accept the scientific evidence, no matter how copious. Every time a new study comes out failing to find a link between vaccines and autism or other problems, they find reasons to reject it even if they have to torture logic and science to do it. Antivaccinationism is not a scientific belief; it is ideological and/or religious more than anything else, which is why it is so stubbornly resistant to reason and science.
Posted by:OracSeptember 11, 2008 9:30:19 AMRespond ^
"Vaccines safes lives". Identify yourself you coward. My credentials are easy to verify. There are 11 licensed vaccines in the U.S. that contain mercury at a concentration of 50,000 parts per billion (ppb). This can be easily verified. The EPA classifies liquids as hazardous waste, based on toxicity characteristics, at the 200 ppb mercury level. Spin it anyway you want.

http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/mercury/regs.htm#hazwaste
Posted by:Mike WagnitzSeptember 11, 2008 9:52:26 AMRespond ^
Vaccines are wrong, not because of some bogus autism link by conspiracy nuts, but because kids need to catch childhood diseases. How else are we going to let nature weed out the weak ones?
Posted by:Connie DobbsSeptember 11, 2008 10:34:48 AMRespond ^
Professor Gordon Stewart wrote in 1980: "In a matter of such importance where concern on all sides is genuine and pressing, I do not wish to end this article inconclusively. My own view, based upon some years of observation and experience, is quite firm. I supported the use of the vaccine in 1951 and subsequently with very little hesitation until about 1972, and gave pertussis vaccine between 1951 and 1956 to each of my four children. I would not dream of doing so again because it has become clear to me not only that the vaccine is incompletely protective, but also that the side-effects which I thought to be temporary are in fact dangerous, unpredictably so."
Posted by:David BromanSeptember 11, 2008 10:39:55 AMRespond ^
First, given the tremendous potential liability were vaccines to be "officially" shown to cause autism or other serious health problems (including death), there is tremendous incentive to prove otherwise.

Second, while Public Health and most other vaccine advocates say vaccines must be mandatory or these diseases will spread, if the vaccines work, anyone choosing them will be protected. If they don’t prevent the spread of the disease to the vaccinated, what is the point? It hardly seems right that those who don’t want to be vaccinated should be required to be vaccinated, because vaccines don’t always work.

And to whatever extent vaccines are being required because the “immune suppressed” cannot be vaccinated, and are more vulnerable to the adverse effects of disease, while my heart goes out to such people, they are not more important than children who are harmed by vaccines. Nor should the notion that vaccination may in itself be creating immune suppression be left out of this equation.

Besides there is documented proof of outbreaks in 100% vaccinated populations.

I also consider any notion of "public health" to be suspect, which sacrifices the individual to some alleged higher goal. Many of us find it way scarier that the state would sacrifice children to someone's idea of the common good, than to take our chances with Mother Nature. Who decides? What's the right number? Who's counting? Even in wartime, the draft of adults is only used very judiciously and sparingly. We also go to considerable effort to avoid enemy civilian casualties. Yet we seem to think nothing of sacrificing our own innocent children.

Like it or not, there is plenty of evidence that vaccines are doing harm. We just doing know how much.

The bottom line? We need good information, we need a choice, and we need it now. If we had such a choice, the vaccine manufacturers just might improve their products. Why, on earth, do they need to improve them now, when we are required to have their vaccines, and they are not accountable for the outcome?

Sandy Gottstein, President, Vaccination News, A Non-Profit Corporation (http://www.vaccinationnews.org) and author of Scandals (http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm)
Posted by:Sandy GottsteinSeptember 11, 2008 12:00:05 PMRespond ^
"...has been shown to be more toxic than methylmercury due to its rapid conversion to Hg++ in the brain. "Really?! Wow, can you back that up with the actual research? Conversion in the brain! Wow, that's s new one. It's metabolized in the brain, not the liver, huh? Geee, you wouldn't be making false conclusions from the Burbacher paper now, would you Mike? Maybe you should go and re-read it...they never performed the experiments to determine that the mercury from the thimerosal found in the brain was the inorganic mercury they measured. The authors' didn't make that conclusion, why did you?

The Burbacher study, the cornerstone of your rants on this board and many others, NEVER tested (by isotopic means) the origins of Hg in the brain. That's one reason, other than poor experimental design and execution, that body of work is easily dismissed (except by those looking for any justification of their pre-established beliefs, regardless of the experimental results and real conclusions).

While we are STILL (after decades of research) on the topic of mercury, can anyone...please!...explain how mercury causes autism when the clinical diagnosis of symptoms (used by all doctors around the world, for centuries now) for mercury toxicity look nothing like autism? Has anyone met any doctors who had a difficult time trying to differentiate whether their patients have autism or mercury poisoning? No? Yeah, it doesn't happen. Maybe some of you can ponder over that little detail.
Posted by:Calling out Mike's BSSeptember 11, 2008 12:24:53 PMRespond ^
A fake chemist wrote

"What's worse is that ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines and seed fungicides, has been shown to be more toxic than methylmercury due to its rapid conversion to Hg++ in the brain."

Ethylmercury is much less toxic than ethylmercury because of a very much shorter half life in the body. It's also excreted by the kidneys unlike methylmercury. So, our fake chemist is not telling you that there's precious little mercury left to be converted to inorganic mercury, again, unlike methyl mercury (pollution style mercury). He also misrepresents the limitations of the Burbacher study he's using in one important way. There was no way of telling where the brain inorganic mercury was coming from. It was assumed that the monkeys had no prior exposure to mercury, and that would be in the form of methylmercury. This has to be false. Mercury on planet Earth is everywhere.
Posted by:alyricSeptember 11, 2008 12:40:12 PMRespond ^
Hey Mike...the chemist...

In your studies did you ever learn the difference between a compound and an element? How about chemical properties, are they the same? And, as in the case of "aluminum in vaccines", are elements the same as salts? Because if that's the case, I'm going to start putting elemental chlorine and sodium on my food.

Hey chemist Mike, how exactly is thimerosal 50% mercury again? Your math seems to be fuzzy since mercury is one of 23 atoms in its composition. Maybe you can re figure your ppb math in light of that fact (yes, yes, we all know what 'by-weight' means, but you seem to miss the fact that we're talking about a molecule here).

Hey Mike, how would elemental mercury be liberated metabolically from the compound? Can you explain the mechanism, because according to what's published about organic decomposure processes, elemental mercury couldn't possibly be a metabolite, and certainly, the others from the molecule from your "magic mechanism" would be detected (and, sadly for you, they are not).

Hey Mike...do yourself a favor. Go get a organic chemistry refresher because you seem to be lacking some fundamental (I mean really basic) concepts.
Posted by:Calling out Mike's BSSeptember 11, 2008 12:59:25 PMRespond ^
For starters, Hg++ is not elemental mercury. How did I determine that thimerosal is 50% mercury. Look at the vaccine label. Thimerosal concentration is listed at 1:10000 which is the same as 100,000 ppb(a number relative to a billion). Analyze the vial for mercury and you will get 50,000 ppb mercury. Really quite simple. Burbacher used a group of primates that were dosed with thimerosal only and he found twice as much Hg++ in the brain as opposed to methylmercury. It came from one source, injected thimerosal. Now "Calling out Mike's BS", go get a job! Please stay away from the science or math field.
Posted by:MWSeptember 11, 2008 2:19:55 PMRespond ^
50% by weight Mike, by atomic mass...by weight. Breaking up a molecule with 23 atoms means one of those is mercury. Get it? Thimerosal is not 50% mercury by COMPOSITION, it is by weight. Your ppb calcs are all wrong. And please describe the mechanism too, with the other metabolites that are never detected. Don't just rehash you old, tired, erroneous-from-the-start talking points, deal with the questions you constantly ignore.

" It came from one source, injected thimerosal. "

How do you know this? No one knows this. The researchers never made that claim. It was never tested or determined to be true. You are assuming, guessing, wishing, whatever...this was never determined by their experiments. Is that too difficult of a concept for you to grasp?

And you always seem to ignore the questions posed as to why the diagnosis for autism is nothing like that of mercury toxicity, you know, acrodynia. Know any kids that have acrodynia? Ever meet a doctor that's confused the two?

Go back and run your samples lab-tech Mike. Some research might be depending on your core facility function for something worthwhile.
Posted by:Calling out Mike's BSSeptember 11, 2008 2:37:31 PMRespond ^
Just heard on NPR last week that where I live (Chicago) has the highest rate of measel outbreak seen in a very long thanks to the nay-sayers of vaccinations.
Thank god I got my vaccinations when I was younger. I think that those people are nuts for not getting vaccinated. Now they can deal with their miserable kids and the possible chance that they could kill some babies while they are at it. Idiots.
Posted by:AzhuraSeptember 11, 2008 2:48:21 PMRespond ^

"And you always seem to ignore the questions posed as to why the diagnosis for autism is nothing like that of mercury toxicity". Here you are Einstein.


Toxic levels of mercury in Chinese infants eating fish congee

Stephen J Corbett and Christopher C S Poon

Medical Journal Australia 2008; 188 (1): 59-60

To the Editor: We report elevated mercury levels in three infants, each the only child of Chinese parents living in Sydney. All three children had eaten fish congee (a rice and fish porridge) as a weaning food and ate fish regularly as toddlers. Their parents had sought medical advice for either developmental delay or neurological symptoms in the children.

A boy aged 2 years and 10 months presented with delayed speech and some autistic features. Since weaning, he had eaten fish (barramundi, sea perch, salmon and rock cod) up to eight times a week. He had no history of herbal medicine use, and his thyroid function, blood lead level, and a DNA screen for fragile X syndrome were normal. The childs blood mercury level was 350 nmol/L and urine Hg/Cr ratio was 14 nmol/mmol (NR, less than 10 nmol/mmol*). The boys father did not eat fish, and his blood mercury level was 19 nmol/L. The childs mother did eat fish, and had a blood mercury level of 27 nmol/L. Two weeks after removing fish from the diet, the childs blood mercury level had fallen to 99 nmol/L and his urine Hg/Cr ratio to 7 nmol/mmol. However, his behaviour did not improve, and he was subsequently diagnosed with classical autism.
Posted by:MWSeptember 11, 2008 2:50:48 PMRespond ^
My entire family of 5 kids got the measles at once in 1961. We had to stay in the house for 4 whole days! Thank God for "Leave it to Beaver". We sure as hell didn't go to any hospital or Doctor. Unlike the vaccinated, we all have lifetime immunity.
Posted by:MWSeptember 11, 2008 2:56:48 PMRespond ^
Just because you CAN make and mandate a vaccine, should you?

How many do we really need?

The immunization schedule is out of control, forcing parents to "dissent" and think for ourselves...

ENTIRELY DISSAPPOINTED IN MOTHER JONES FOR PRINTING THIS!
Posted by:anonSeptember 11, 2008 3:28:40 PMRespond ^
As a mother of a severely autistic boy, I agree with Jen. Please stop wasting time and money on the vaccine issue, and start helping individuals with autism, and those with other disabilities, lead better lives. For the past 6 years I have read everything that has anything to do with vaccines and autism, absolutely nothing has made me think that there is a connection.
Posted by:Another Autism MomSeptember 11, 2008 3:48:43 PMRespond ^
"Toxic levels of mercury in Chinese infants eating fish congee

Stephen J Corbett and Christopher C S Poon"

NICE! Just read through the paper. Again, the authors make no mention, anywhere in the paper, that their research demonstrates or implies that mercury was the causal factor in the child's autism. Additionally, you neglected to include the subsequent subjects where they describe pronounced neurological impairment, specifically, limitations in mobility and kidney failure (all part of the world-widely accepted medical diagnosis for mercury toxicity) that is not seen within the scope of those diagnosed within autism spectrum disorders.

The paper is about methylmercury and how excessive consumption of certain fish species during pregnancy may cause birth defects. So, along your lines of reasoning and what you've provided as evidence that autism is mercury poisoning, we should expect a lot of autism in families that eat a lot of fish, right? Maybe feeding children fish gives them autism, right? Because 1 tuna fish sandwich supplies more mercury (in the form of methylmercury) than an old-style, 8 year old, thimerosal-containing vaccine. Maybe it isn't big pharma that's out to get your kids...maybe it's big fish.

acrodynia (a·krō·dīˑ·nē·),n pediatric disease caused by mercury poisoning. Symptoms include generalized skin rash, pruritus, edema, painful extremities that appear pink, profuse sweating, clammy skin, scarlet-colored cheeks and nose, photophobia, polyneuritis, digestive problems, irritable episodes that alternate with apathetic attitudes, and general failure to thrive. Also called
erythredema polyneuropathy, Feer's disease, pink disease, or
Swift's disease.

Autism: A spectrum of neuropsychiatric disorders characterized by deficits in social interaction and communication, and unusual and repetitive behavior. Some, but not all, people with autism are non-verbal.

Do those look the same to you? No, me neither.
Posted by:Calling out Mike's BSSeptember 11, 2008 4:11:11 PMRespond ^
"My entire family of 5 kids got the measles at once in 1961. We had to stay in the house for 4 whole days! Thank God for "Leave it to Beaver". We sure as hell didn't go to any hospital or Doctor. Unlike the vaccinated, we all have lifetime immunity."

Vaccine refusals fuel measles outbreak

Posted 2008/08/21 at 1:07 pm EDT

WASHINGTON, Aug. 21, 2008 (Reuters) — Parents refusing to have their children vaccinated against measles have helped drive cases of the illness to their worst levels in a dozen years in the United States, health officials reported on Thursday.

In 2008 alone, 131 cases of measles have been reported, with 15 serious enough to be hospitalized, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.

Most of those infected were not vaccinated and there is no reason for any cases to occur when vaccines can prevent them, the CDC said in a weekly report on death and diseases.

"Measles can be a severe, life-threatening illness" the CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat said in a statement. "These cases resulted primarily from failure to vaccinate, many because of philosophical or religious belief."

Only 13 percent of the cases were imported, the CDC said, naming Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, India, Israel, China, Germany, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Russia. "This is the lowest percentage of imported measles cases since 1996," the CDC report reads.

At least 15 patients, including four children younger than 15, were hospitalized, although no one has died, the CDC said.

"In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3 to 4 million persons in the United States were infected each year. Of these, 400 to 500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and another 1,000 developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis."

Encephalitis is a life-threatening inflammation of the brain that can be caused by viral infections such as measles.

More than 90 percent of the patients were not vaccinated, the CDC said, had no evidence of having been vaccinated, or were babies too young to have been vaccinated.

"Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were unvaccinated because of their or their parents' philosophical or religious beliefs," the CDC said.

Some religious groups refuse vaccination but many parents have fears that vaccines are unsafe or may cause conditions such as autism -- fears the CDC says are unfounded.

"Increases in the proportion of the population declining vaccination for themselves or their children might lead to large-scale outbreaks in the United States," the CDC said.

Outbreaks of measles are being reported now in Israel, Switzerland, Austria, Italy and Britain among people who are declining the vaccine.

British health officials said in June that measles had again become endemic for the first time since the mid-1990s due to parents declining to get their children vaccinated.

The last serious U.S. outbreak was in 1989-1991, when 55,000 people got measles and 123 died. The CDC said 55 cases of measles were reported in 2006.

Measles kills about 250,000 people a year globally, mostly children in poor nations. The disease causes fever, coughing, irritation of the eyes and a rash. Serious complications include encephalitis and pneumonia that can be fatal.

"Measles knows no borders, but can be prevented for less than one dollar per child in a developing country. We must be steadfast in our efforts to reduce measles cases globally," the Measles Initiative, which includes the American Red Cross, CDC and United Nations agencies, said in a statement.


Well thank goodness you had Leave it to Beaver! Perhaps that's what we can do for the millions that get it annually (except the quarter million that will die from it...and the tens of thousands with brain damage from encephalitis, I doubt they will get the jokes anyway).
Posted by:Calling out Mike's BSSeptember 11, 2008 4:23:11 PMRespond ^
Lions and tigers and bears oh my!
Posted by:JoeSeptember 11, 2008 4:37:30 PMRespond ^
Thank you very much Mr. Allen. As the paretent of a young child with autism, I see the need to separate the autism community from the vaccine debate. People have looked hard for the links, and they haven't found them. We've spent enough researcher time and money looking, now we need to look for something that can actually help.
Posted by:MattSeptember 11, 2008 5:06:18 PMRespond ^
Autism is simply a term from the psychiatric DSM-IV manual. It's nothing but a smokescreen. It provides an alibi for the drug companies who added mercury to vaccines at levels 250 times higher than hazardous waste levels (based on toxicity characteristics). It provides an alibi for the CDC, FDA, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the other drug company cronies who are responsible for the safety of our children. It provides an alibi for the people who administered this poison. It provides an alibi for health insurance companies so they don't have to pay for treatment for these sick kids. It provides an alibi for psychiatrists so they can force powerfull anti-psychotic drugs on these kids who are already terribly confused.


There will never be an identifiable cause for autism. There are though 11 published papers which identify the underlying medical condition of autism as neuroinflammatory disease. My favorite is ' Neuroglial activation and Neuroinflammation in the Brain of Patients with Autism'. This was published by John Hopkins University. Now, do you want to debate whether mercury, a known neurotoxin, added to childhood vaccines at levels 250 times higher than what the EPA identifies as hazardous waste, causes neuroinflammatory disease? Do you want to debate whether brain damaged kids behave in a way so that some psychiatrist can label them as somewhere on the 'spectrum'?

Posted by:JoeSeptember 11, 2008 5:24:12 PMRespond ^
Yes Joe. It's all part of a conspiracy! Big pharma purposely added "toxins" to "poison" children, while the FDA, the CDC, the AMA, NIH, AAP, and WHO all collaborated.

Again, you re-hash the same old, tired talking points. None of which holds any credence. None.

But go ahead. It's Sept. 11th. Maybe you can spin that conspiracy in there with this one too.

Just out of curiosity Joe, since all these organizations, consisting of literally tens of millions of people around the world are in on the conspiracy, do they vaccinated their kids too, or do they have some special "secret placebo" vaccines just for show? Do these doctors and scientists you are accusing of being in on this conspiracy, do they not vaccinate their children (because, being in on the conspiracy, they would know the debilitating effects, right?) Just curious Joe, because apparently...in your mind...you've got this all worked out.

Posted by:Now calling out JoeSeptember 11, 2008 5:37:20 PMRespond ^
Start after two? Children are most likely to die of infectious diseases at younger ages. That's why we vaccinate so young -- to protect young infants from diseases like whooping cough, or blood infection.

As a resident, I used to see blood infection from pneumococcus at least once a week. Since the pneumococcal vaccine became widespread, I haven't seen a single case. That's a lot of hospitalizations, spinal taps, antibiotic treatments that didn't have to be done. A lot of young children (all but one of the cases I've seen were under three) who didn't have to suffer. My mentors used to see Haemophilus influenzae infection -- meningitis, more spinal taps, mostly very young children. I've never seen a case, thanks to vaccines. My parents had childhood friends who died of polio. I've never seen a case, thanks to vaccines.

Posted by:Lori Colan, M.D.September 11, 2008 7:32:11 PMRespond ^
wow.

I suppose EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD should take Gardasil!

every single one!
immediately!!
go! go NOW... inoculate an entire generation of young women!!!!

either its a MORAL MANDATE or its FEMINISM.

or so says BigPharma.

but we all know, its easier to jab & bill than educate & investigate alternative therapies that don't involve the WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE (x3) vaccine.

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Evil Slutopia: 10 Things You Might Not Know About Gardasil
http://evilslutopia.com/2007/01/gardasil.html

Gardasil? for health or profit?? / Gardasil & HPV?
http://www.breadnroses.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=21321

The Politics & PR of Cervical Cancer
http://www.prwatch.org/node/6216

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Posted by:BlueBerry Pick'nSeptember 11, 2008 8:49:19 PMRespond ^
9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 girls either die or are mamed each year by HPV according to the CDC, FDA, IOM, WHO, AAP, AMA, AAFP, PHARMA, Reuters, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, Mother Jones, CNN......
Posted by:PeteSeptember 11, 2008 9:41:08 PMRespond ^
I read that over 25 girls have died from Gardasil. What is this called, Sudden Adulescent Death Syndrome (SADS)?
Posted by:Mr. SmithSeptember 11, 2008 9:47:44 PMRespond ^
I had to laugh at that. Although I think its the big fish that run big pharma. That would only make sense.
Posted by:thevalleyofgreenSeptember 12, 2008 9:40:10 AMRespond ^
So, people are living longer and healthier mainly because of vaccines, but it has nothing to do with advances sanitation, the development of antibiotics, pasteurization, and the understanding of the role that bacteria plays in disease causation. All of these things are sorely lacking in the developing countries whose statistics the proponents of vaccines site so exuberantly. So we should continue to over look these areas including improving water quality, and just give them vaccines. Yep, that'll solve it. Sounds like the industry line to me.
Posted by:KagemniSeptember 12, 2008 11:46:06 AMRespond ^
Excuse the errors; more properly:

So, people are living longer and healthier mainly because of vaccines, but it has nothing to do with advances in sanitation, the development of antibiotics, pasteurization, and the understanding of the role that bacteria plays in disease causation. All of these things are sorely lacking in the developing countries whose statistics the proponents of vaccines cite so exuberantly. So we should continue to overlook these areas including improving water quality, and just give them vaccines. Yep, that'll solve it. This sounds like the industry line to me.
Posted by:KagemniSeptember 12, 2008 11:51:48 AMRespond ^
There are other concerns besides a disputed link to autism as elucidated by Dr. Philip Incao's Hepatitis B Vaccination Testimony in Ohio:

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/n iin/incao_hepatitis_b_vaccination_te.htm

He states:
"In 1994 a special committee of the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences published a comprehensive review of vaccine safety which had been commissioned by federal law. Of five possible and plausible adverse effects of the hepatitis B vaccination which the committee investigated, they were unable to come to any conclusion for four of them because they found to their dismay that the relevant research had not been done!"

He continues:
"Since July 1990, 17,497 cases of hospitalizations, injuries and deaths in America following hepatitis B vaccination have been reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of the U.S. government. This figure includes 146 deaths in individuals after receiving only hepatitis B vaccine without any other vaccines, including 73 deaths in children under 14 years old. In 1996 alone there were 872 serious adverse events in children under 14 years old reported to VAERS. 658 of those injuries were following hepatitis B vaccination in combination with other vaccinations and 214 of these injuries were after hepatitis B vaccination alone. In these children under 14 years old, there were 35 deaths after hepatitis B vaccination in combination and 13 deaths after hepatitis B vaccination alone, for a total of 48 deaths. Compare these statistics with the total number of hepatitis B cases nationwide reported that same year (1996) in children under 14, just 279, and the conclusion is obvious that the risks of hepatitis B vaccination far outweigh its benefits. In those infants who died under one month of age, most of the deaths are classified as Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). However, in the past this syndrome has never struck infants so young, and SIDS is officially defined as beginning only after one month of age."

With 6,000 children dying of SIDS every year, we have no idea how many of these deaths are actually caused by hepatitis B vaccination. Though the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting system was created by federal law to permit a more accurate assessment of the risks of vaccination, and although the raw data it generates is analyzed, the individual reports of injury or death are rarely, if ever, investigated. If one factors in that fewer than 10% of physicians report adverse reactions to vaccines because we are taught to regard them as merely "temporally related", as only a coincidence, it would be quite plausible to say that the risks of hepatitis B vaccination clearly outweigh its benefits for 99% of the children who receive it."

Finally, I will add from his testimony:
"A critical point which is never mentioned by those advocating mandatory vaccination of children is that children’s health has declined significantly since 1960 when vaccines began to be widely used. According to the National Health Interview Survey conducted annually by the National Center for Health Statistics since 1957, a shocking 31% of U.S. children today have a chronic health problem , 18% of children require special health care or related services and 6.7% of children have a significant disability due to a chronic physical or mental condition. Respiratory allergies, asthma and learning disabilities are the most common of these. Three controlled studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated children in England and New Zealand have shown that the vaccinated children have significantly more asthma, ear infections, hospitalizations and inflammatory bowel disease than their unvaccinated cohorts. Since vaccinations have a lasting effect on the immune system, and since it is known that many vaccines shift the balance of the immune system away from its acutely-reacting "Th1" side and toward its chronically-reacting "Th2" side , it is a very plausible scenario that vaccines are contributing greatly to the large-scale and unprecedented increase in chronic conditions such as allergies, asthma, diabetes and a wide range of neurological dysfunctions including learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder, seizures and autism in U.S. children today.
The shocking facts that 31% of U.S. children today suffer from a chronic condition and that the rate of disability from such chronic conditions in children has seen nearly a fourfold increase since 1960 ought to seriously challenge our medical research establishment. But, far from taking a proactive approach toward these disturbing facts, our medical establishment remains curiously uninterested in children’s chronic diseases and instead continues to pursue its narrow focus of using vaccines to eradicate every possible acute childhood illness, even those like hepatitis B and chicken pox which pose no threat to 99% of children."

Granted the link to autism has been disputed by current research. However, what other factor is there that has been introduced since 1960 to which the increased in chronic conditions can be attributed besides mass childhood vaccination?
Posted by:KagemniSeptember 12, 2008 12:46:40 PMRespond ^
Thank you Mr. Allen for a well-balanced piece regarding childhood immunizations. I particularly liked the implication of one of your last statements: why should families trust Jim Carrey or Jenny McCarthy more than their child's own physician? As a pediatrician and pediatric infectious diseases specialist for many years I've seen disappear or diminish in number several of the diseases our childhood vaccines were designed to prevent. While some of these diseases remain, mostly in low levels throughout the U.S., some, such as measles, still remain a "plane ride away". In my opinion and experience, over 28 years, the benefits of childhood immunization far outweigh the risks from the vaccines. Thank you again for your excellent Commentary.
Posted by:Dennis L. Murray, M.D. September 12, 2008 2:05:14 PMRespond ^
Your brain-washed dude! You pediatricians are nothing but glorified pharma sales reps. What happens when you expose a kid to organic mercury while they are on anti-biotics Doc? Did they teach this subject in med (pharma) school? When people tell me their pediatrician will no longer see them if they don't give their kid all 68 injections I say good. Fire him! Pediatricians are worthless. Go find a honest family practicionare.
Posted by:PeteSeptember 12, 2008 3:00:17 PMRespond ^
Hey Doc, Me again. Here is a paper that was published last year where they injected mice with aliminum at a concentration of 100 ug/Kg body weight. This is the same concentration that has been linked to Gulf War Syndrome. It caused neuron death in mice. The lead author said, "this totally freaked us out, non of us will ever get a vaccine with aluminum again". The Hepatitus B vaccine, administered at birth, contains 250 ug aluminum. Why do newborns need a Hep B vaccine Doc? Isn't the disease spread by contaminated body fluid. Don't you need a booster at age 10? Oh maybe this has something to do with it; 4 million kids born each year X 3 Hep B shots X $25 a dose = $300,000,000. Guaranteed thanks to our babies. If aluminum can injure an adult combat ready soldier, I'm sure it's safe for newborns. There are 8 childhood vaccines, administered 18 times, that contain aluminum. Now I know you clowns are going to say aluminum is everywhere. This is true. It's not a problem until it enters the bloodstream.

Petrik MS, Wong MC, Tabata RC, Garry RF, Shaw CA. Aluminum adjuvant linked to gulf war illness induces motor neuron death in mice. Neuromolecular Med. 2007;9(1):83-100.
Posted by:PeteSeptember 12, 2008 4:05:04 PMRespond ^
A very interesting thread. Here are a couple of points prevent me from whole heartedly endorsing the CDC and their vaccine program.

Pediatrician's who observe their own healthy, outgoing children suddenly withdraw and regress within hours of receiving a vaccination. These doctors are routinely said to be mistaken and untrained.

A vaccine compensation program enacted in the 80's to "compensate" parents whose children were damaged by vaccines. This was a result of problems with the pertussis vaccine.

14 healthy teenage girls who died shortly after receiving the Guadasil vaccine, not to mention the hundreds who have collapsed into convulsions in their doctor's offices. All this for a vaccine which has not been proved to be any more effective at preventing cervical cancer than a PAP smear.

We need to keep in mind that we can never prove that something does not cause autism or other chronic health risks. All we can say is there are no known links. It is entirely possible that we were simply looking in the wrong place or that there is a mechanism at work that we are unaware of.

I would certainly be more comfortable with the CDC if they responded to the criticism with science instead of propaganda.



Posted by:phoneyfarmerSeptember 12, 2008 5:18:20 PMRespond ^
This article is excellent. I think it is slanderous to suggest that most doctors are in the pockets of Big business and doubt the truth of Mike Wagnitz assertions, it is not true that ethyl-mercury makes vaccines "more toxic" don't believe this man. Google his name and you will see a lot of the assertions he makes are under suspicion. Vaccines are generally safe and save tens of thousands of lives every year. If we could isolate all the non-vaccination people and leave them to their fate then it would be ok but there is a benefit to society at large with herd immunity that we must enhance and protect.

Posted by:Andrew Murry, MDSeptember 12, 2008 5:59:05 PMRespond ^
I've come to believe that vaccines have been touted as an alternative to proper hygiene and sanitation and good nutrition. Parents, regardless of income, who cannot take care of their child when he or she is healthy, are pretty much useless when their child is sick. Hence, the rise of the vaccination.
Posted by:Sue KellerSeptember 12, 2008 8:02:14 PMRespond ^
A few more talking points:

Anyone remember the Prevnar scare a few years ago when a manager had to blow the whistle on shoddy manufacturing practices at the vaccine factory? No one would listen to him - he finally had to go a stockholder's meeting to be heard. As recently as this year, FDA has been insufficiently staffed to properly oversee pharmaceutical manufacture (especially in offshore facilities)as they are mandated to do.

Also, what about all the FDA scientists who refused to give up their financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies even when ordered to do so by their director? The director had to cave and let them continue in their consulting roles to Big Pharma or there would have been virtually no one left at FDA.

Last, but not least, what about the ethical considerations of testing vaccines and drugs on minor children? Who decides what the acceptable casualty level is among test subjects?
Posted by:Sue KellerSeptember 12, 2008 8:14:29 PMRespond ^
According to Mr. Allen it is our civic duty to be vaccinated. The government and public health officials have agreed that a certain number of casualties and deaths as a result of being vaccinated is acceptable. The premeditatedness of the actuarial-based policy of acceptable risk seems astronomically more cold-blooded that whatever Mother Nature could dish out. Mother Nature's randomness is more palatable than the thought that a committee of human beings, having turned off all emotions, sit in judgement on how best the "herd" of humanity should be managed
Posted by:Sue KellerSeptember 12, 2008 8:35:24 PMRespond ^
Mother Jones defending Big Pharma, or at least allowing Arthur Allen to do so. Does this mean that Big Pharma is on the ropes or just using you, Mother, to further their own agenda???????
Posted by:Sue KellerSeptember 12, 2008 8:42:38 PMRespond ^
Dr. Murray you are right. I Googled Mike Wagnitz and this is what I found. I definetly trust you because you are a Doctor. We need to stop this evil man. He seems to think for himself!

http://www.ajph.org/cgi/eletters?lookup=by_date&days=30

Mercury, Vaccines, And Autism: One Controversy, Much Propaganda

In the article, "Mercury, Vaccines, and Autism: One Controversy, Three Histories" the author, while trying to sound impartial, misrepresents several facts in order to support his conclusions. He starts by citing the many findings of the Institute of Medicine (IOM) without mentioning that the IOM was commissioned by the CDC to issue a report on "Vaccines and Autism." The CDC approves, mandates, promotes, and distributes vaccines. He does not mention that every member of the IOM committee had ties to the vaccine program (1). There were no independent toxicologists on this committee. One would think this would be important when considering the safety of mercury in vaccines.
The author cites the inventors of thimerosal and writes, "extensive in vitro testing shows that thimerosal was 40 to 50 times as effective as phenol against Staphylococcus aureus." He then claims "concerns over neurotoxicity in infants receiving thimerosal from vaccines were never raised by medical or government authorities before the late 1990s." This is false. In 1982, an independent panel was convened by the FDA (2). The panel called for the removal of mercury, including thimerosal, from all over-the-counter products. It declared thimerosal as being both unsafe and ineffective. It was singled out as being "no better than water in protecting mice from fatal streptococcal infection." It was shown to be 35.5 times more toxic to embryonic chicken heart tissue than the aforementioned Staphylococcus aureus.
He goes on to declare that the "comparatively miniscule exposures [of thimerosal] involved in vaccines were well within all published guidelines for mercury exposure." Unfortunately, he never took the time to analyze a vaccine vial for mercury concentration. The Hepatitis B vaccine, administered at birth for over ten years, contained 25,000 parts per billion (ppb) of mercury in the multi-dose vaccine vial. The multi-dose DTP and Haemophilus B vaccine vials, administered 4 times each in the 1990s to children at 2, 4, 6, 12 and 18 months of age, contained 50,000 ppb mercury. According to the EPA, any liquid that contains more than 200 ppb mercury is to be classified as hazardous waste based on toxicity (3). It's hard to believe that a level of mercury 250 times higher than hazardous waste levels would be referred to as "miniscule." The fact is, on any given day of receiving even a single thimerosal containing vaccine in the 1990s, all published guidelines for mercury exposure were exceeded.
Several pages of the paper examine the toxicity of methylmercury and its past use as a fungicide. We are led to believe that this form of mercury is much different than ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines. This is in spite of the fact that ethylmercury was used for the same purpose. In fact, Ethylmercurric Chloride, the material used as a fungicide (which was banned long ago) is what is used to make thimerosal. This can be easily confirmed by looking in a Merck Index. We now know that this type of mercury deposits twice as much inorganic mercury in the brains of primates as compared to equal doses of methylmercury (4). Inorganic mercury, following the de-methylation of organic mercury, has been identified as the primary neurotoxic agent in primate studies (5).
The author mentions the book, "Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic" by David Kirby. It contains 436 scientific references. The author did not disclose if he read the book. This may have helped his argument since this book was read by many parents of autistic children.
We are then told about the impact of trial lawyers concerning this situation. The author does not disclose how much money has been awarded to trial lawyers who represent autistic children. It's my understanding that this number is zero.
(1) http://www.iom.edu/subpage.asp?id5981
(2) U.S. Food and Drug Administration, proposed rules, Federal Register 47/436-01, January 5, 1982.
(3) http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/mercury/regs.htm#hazwaste
(4) Burbacher T, Shen D, Liberato N, Grant K, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T. 2005. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environmental Health Perspectives. 113:1015-1021.
(5) Charleston J, Body R, Bolender R, Mottet N, Vahter M, Burbacher T. 1996. Changes in the number of astrocytes and microglia in the thalamus of the monkey Macaca fascicularis following long-term subclinical methylmercury exposure. Neurotoxicology. 17:127-138.
Posted by:IHeart$September 12, 2008 8:46:02 PMRespond ^
All this back and forth argument and I have not read one person here taken in consideration allergy. My child is not vaccinated, she got chicken pox and therefore is immunized for life. She is severely allergic to many food items, include eggs. If she is given, just as an example, flu vaaccine she will have an anaphylatic shock which can potentially be fatal. So, when the government is telling me what I have to do, I say not a chance. Each person has the right to make decisions and some are as simple as that. Like many of you I am disappointed at the tone set by the article, and I do not trust the medical community. The pharmaceutical companies has provided too many doctors with perks that they became all too acostumed with. True doctors are hard to come by these days. Hopefully people will still be allowed to think and make decisions for themselves before we are all wearing red.
Posted by:MiriamSeptember 12, 2008 9:42:48 PMRespond ^
Why not prevent regressive autism?

Colitis is one of the biological ailments. CDC states that the cause of colitis is unknown, but respiratory infections can cause attacks of colitis. Guess what? Measles is a respiratory infection and is mandated.

(Adverse reactions listed on the manufacturer's information sheet are diarrhea, ear infections, diabetes and pancreatitis.)

If you check the literature, bottle feeding is a risk for colitis and ear infections. So why are people bottle feeding their children and allowing the children to be vaccinated? Do they think they are guaranteed that the result will be different for their children?

Kanner was correct about the correlation between autism and refrigerators in the household. It is not cold and uncaring mothers, but it is refrigeration prevents spoilage of both formula in baby bottles and vaccine in its vials.

Avoiding bottle feeding and vaccines capable of respiratory infections will reduce the incidence of regressive autism.

Bottle feeding predisposes the child and the vaccine triggers it.
Posted by:Joe HerrSeptember 12, 2008 11:15:12 PMRespond ^
You know what, that is not true at all, they have not taken the murcury out of the shots, they state that they have, but they will not let any groups of autism activists study the shots. If they did take the mercury out it would prove that the government has been making these children sick and they would be liable. So believe what you want but vaccines are most of what is causing this epidemic. I know I saw my perfectly normal brother get very sick and become autistic after his MMR shots. Its really messed of because either way if you vaccinate or not there both scary decisions. I have not vaccinated my 18 month old...I'm waiting...until...i don't know just don't know.
Posted by:BethanySeptember 13, 2008 10:20:45 AMRespond ^
Thats sad that u would really say that... LEt nature weed out the weak ones... U are really sick and that statement alone shows how ignorant you really are,
Posted by:BethanySeptember 13, 2008 10:24:02 AMRespond ^
wow your so anti everyone, it really sickens me until you have a child with autism and really look into it you connot speak on the behalf of people with children or siblings of autism. Go to another question your postings are very antagonizing and just plain stupid.
Posted by:BethanySeptember 13, 2008 10:36:24 AMRespond ^
The canary in the mine is dead... All we do is sit around and talk about it. The correct response is run for air. My son spoke. My son got shots. My son stopped speaking. My son's doctor committed suicide. His new Defeat Autism Now Doctor gave him a new diet and supplements and he said his first words in six years. "Hi Daddy" for Fathers day 2008. I would take a damaged lung over a lifetime of wondering if my son will walk into the road because of vaccine poisoning. Make them green and clean. Save our kids! Save the human race.
Posted by:Tanners DadSeptember 13, 2008 10:38:37 AMRespond ^
If this "journalist" hasn't seen one study that implictes mercury...he's not looking very hard. Pathetic piece. I'll never read Mother Jones again and I'll make sure to tell many people.
Posted by:JennSeptember 13, 2008 1:15:31 PMRespond ^
Right on Jenn. I still can't believe Mother Jones let this "self serving, buy my book, get 68 mandatory injections ($) or die" piece run. It's really a sad day for progressive journalism.
Posted by:MikeSeptember 13, 2008 3:57:01 PMRespond ^
It seems the pHARMaceuticals got a small army of bloggers out now..
PR dollars at work ..
I wont give my kid any shots for a while..and then just the most important ones..

Hey didn't AIDS epicenter was in Africa on the same place were some vaccines where tested a few decades earlier ??
Posted by:daniel September 13, 2008 5:58:15 PMRespond ^
Sad day for Mother Jones. I'm very surprised to be reading such a one-sided article here. I really expect more from you.

Even if one does not wish to consider the autism connection in the vaccine debate, there are plenty of other reasons not to vaccinate. As a parent who has chosen not to vaccinate my child, I feel highly insulted by the tone of this article. My husband, I, and many other non-vax parents we know are probably much more aware of the issues and problems that can arise from vaccines than those who blindly follow whatever their doctor tells them to do, without knowing how vaccines work, what is in them or what they can do to a child. To call us "idiots" as a previous poster did is beyond insulting. (And for the record, our free-thinking pediatrician supports our choice not to vaccinate.) Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

Sorry, Mother Jones, I lost a great deal of respect for you today.
Posted by:RaelynSeptember 13, 2008 6:25:45 PMRespond ^
I too was 100% provaccine when I was finished with college. I majored in microbiology and I understood the immune system and vaccinations why they work and that some kids have reactions to the Measles shot but that number was so small I ignored it. My first two kids got fully vaccinated then my second child, my only son was diagnosed and I completely blew off the first person to tell me there was a connection. But then I was in the middle of vaccinating my younger two when the connection came up again and I thought I'd better check it out. Now I am so glad I did. I put all the shots on hold and spent two years researching the issue. What I came away with was this you absolutely cannot trust epidemiological studies. There is even a book called HOW TO LIE WITH STATISTICS, when you consider all of the doctors who have done the so called studies-that-prove-there-is-no- connection-between-vaccines-and-autism are financially involved with the pharmacuitical industry how can you possibly trust those studies. Plus how as a parent can I trust the doctors at the CDC who have the same conflict of interest. Plus it should never have happened that the same agency that promotes vaccines is same one that regulates the safety of them. I would also like to point out that while SOME (not all started that early) manufacturers stopped packaging their vaccines ten doses per package that required use of a preservative and started packaging them one dose per package (yes it was all about packaging!!) in 1999 they DID NOT RECALL THE UNUSED DOSES. My daughter got a vaccine that had an expiration date of 2006. If you add to that the average age of autism diagosis which is four years old we will not start seeing a decline until 2010. But then lately big pharma has been pushing for the flu vaxes which still have the thimerosal. A deliberate attempt to obfuscate the numbers? I think so. Especially after reading the transcript of the Simpsonwood GA meeting where Dr. Verstraten presented the intial results of the Vaccine Datalink Study. After the results were presented one doctor excused himeself to call his daughter who had just had a baby to warn her not to vaccinate. Then they spent the rest of the time figuring out how to keep from being sued. And this was representatives from the CDC, FDA, NIH, and all the pharmacuitical companies. So don't go telling me the conspiracy is all in my head. If you don't believe me go to safeminds.org and read it for yourself if you actually want to do real research not just go by regurgitated news articles. Then start looking at studies that are actually using science: laboratory research, clinical trials, research involving science not statistics. Most of us who are concerned about the vaccinations are not saying no one should vaccinate (including Jenny McCarthy if you actually listened to what she said) we are saying that there is a subset of kids with a genetic predisposition that are vulnerable to the toxic ingredients in them, their body cannot clear them like most kids can. We want the elements in the fed agencies that the former director of the NIH says is afraid of what might be found to get over their fear and help us figure out which kids are vulnerable so we can SAFELY vaccinate kids that will be fine and CAREFULLY vaccinate or not vaccinate only the kids who are vulnerable. But a truly difinitive study of vaccinated kids versus unvaccinated kids has still not been done. Until then I'd rather my kid get the measles which has a 98% recovery rate than autism which has a 0% recovery rate. And don't quote meales death numbers at me until you compare it to the number of autistic kids who have drown, died of exposure, etc because they have no concept of danger.
Posted by:mousekerSeptember 14, 2008 4:53:53 PMRespond ^
If you believe that thimerosal has been taken out of all vaccines except the flu shot, take a look at this current site with at least 10 immunizations from various pharmaceutical companies listed with thimerosal:
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

For those concerned about what is happening to our kids and our planet, register for the conference "Saving our Kids, Healing our Planet" to be held in Charlotte NC on Sept. 26-28, 2008. Speakers include David Kirby, Holly Robinson Peele, Deidre Imus, Dr. Elizabeth Mumper. See http://www.sokhop.com/
Posted by:SherylSeptember 14, 2008 11:31:25 PMRespond ^
The problem is parents care but don't know who to trust. Some trust doctors, some don't. I tend to be very skeptical of doctors and I also believe that the research that we have access to is not always complete or even unbiased. How many kids were vaccinated with obvious side effects and problems before the vaccinations were "improved" over and over again? I have friends who vaccinate and friends who don't and none of them are idiots. It all comes down to parents having to make a difficult decision based on what they have managed to learn and then being willing to deal with the possible consequences of their actions. I have made my choice to vaccinate for some things and not others, and when I believe that it is necessary, not when someone who doesn't even know potential side effects tells me to. But, hey, that's my choice. Thank goodness we're all free to make that decision. And don't dare tell me that my kid not being vaccinated puts your kid at risk, so therefore you should have some say in whether my kid is vaccinated or not. We are talking about injecting things into our babies' bodies. It has to be a parent's choice. And neither one is wrong. Parenting is difficult enough. All I can say is don't just do something because a doctor tells you to. Do it because you know what you're doing and you believe it is the best choice for you and your family.
Posted by:Educated MomSeptember 15, 2008 1:47:14 PMRespond ^
The guy who wrote this is so full of [deleted] his eyeballs have GOT to be brown. His whole "theory" is a complete crock.
Posted by:Mary SmithSeptember 15, 2008 4:12:44 PMRespond ^
In my opinion regressive autism is caused by bottle feeding and MMR vaccine.

The MMR vccine is a respiratory infection and respiratory infections can initiate attacks of colitis. As you know colitis and diarrhea go together.(This from the CDC web site)

Bottle feeding is a risk for colitis and for ear infections, a couple of ailments associated with regressive autism.

Why should children be bottle fed? Don't we ever learn from the past. Do the pediatricians tell you to breast feed your child because if you don't it will be at risk for colitis and ear infections, and that these ailments are associated with autism?

You may wish to read:

http://www.sleepnet.com/apnea134/messages/253.html

Let us try to solve the problem, and us not declare any factor "out of bounds" before the cause is known.

Let us put our efforts where they will do the most good.
Posted by:Joe HerrSeptember 15, 2008 5:41:55 PMRespond ^
Well THREE strikes and Mother Jones is gone from my reading list. This is the second article in less than a week that has me wondering just who Mother Jones shills for! In this age of disinformation, MJ appears to have become a supporter of questionable mainstream activities and concepts that left me reeling. It seems that, as a trusted source of alternative views, MJ has just plain sold out and is toeing the popular line as allotted by the Elite-owned and controlled government.

Might I advise any other beginning to question the new shift in MJ thinking turn to a new source for the Truth. Check out Global Research at http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=home . Here you will find the truth, presented by people with actual knowledge and insight! This mother Jones stuff is now approaching the mainstream attitudes towards the dangers of today's living and, personally, I am not even disappointed, it has happened so many times before. Every publication that preaches common sense and decent values seems to have become corrupt in the past while leaving me wondering what big fish swallowed MJ that such articles are now presented for our consideration.

Still waiting on the photos of semi nude "Chickie of the Day" to increase readership!

All it takes is to study the higher levels of autism and other difficulties to see the correlations.

So, 911 was NOT an inside job and VACCINES are good for you? Admittedly they serve a great and humanitarian purpose when appropriately administered. But, as with all else, things have simply gone too far.

I may have rambled here, I am not even fully awake. But I am awake enough to recognize shilling when I see it.
Posted by:BarbaraLeeSeptember 16, 2008 9:31:13 AMRespond ^
What! This article is so uninformed and without factual basis. A real letdown from a standup publication.
Posted by:JessieSeptember 16, 2008 9:15:06 PMRespond ^
How does injecting toxic chemicals and pieces of disease confer immunity again? If you are trying to avoid whooping cough why inject pieces of it inside you?
Posted by:Wendy September 17, 2008 12:51:52 AMRespond ^
Wow. I really thought more of Mother Jones than this. Arthur Allen is a pro-vaccine person who makes his money off of making mothers feel stupid for making their own health choices. I read Allen's book and his elitist comment about a "mother's internet education" says it all.

I am also the mother of two vaccine injured children and a third that is and will remain unvaccinated. I also had a mother die of ALS, which has been linked to overexposure to formaldehyde, of which she would have had plenty of through vaccines that she got all the time (she even bought into the 70s swine flu vaccine!).

My husband has documented hearing loss through the military from his series of Hep B shots and was actually waived for his third shot in the series. Vaccines kill. There is no doubt about it. Diseases kill. There is no doubt about it. But if disease still kills with more than 90% of the U.S. vaccinated, then clearly vaccines DO NOT WORK.

In fact, they are turning us into a sickly medical seeking cult. What is the point of poisoning yourself through vaccines if you can “still” catch whatever it is you are vaccinating against? Oh, that’s right, herd immunity. Ask Allen to prove herd immunity. He can’t. No one can and no one has. It’s a THEORY. Meanwhile we have literally destroyed our own DNA. We have introduced Simian viruses into our systems via the polio vaccine. We have created the sickliest generation ever that can’t survive without pills, interventions and a constant barrage of pharma advertising.

This is propaganda at its worst because people have come to trust Mother Jones to give it to them straight. This isn’t straight. This is a fear mongering article to get the masses to line up for a whooping cough vaccine that DOES NOT WORK. And it never really has.

Ugh………..I get so tired of pro vaccine people trying to push drugs into my system and my children’s systems. Go away already.
Posted by:MarySeptember 17, 2008 10:54:58 AMRespond ^
Has MJ been sold to the highest bidder? Or has it just gotten an editor who doesn't know how to do a little research of their own? Sad.
Posted by:MarySeptember 17, 2008 10:59:31 AMRespond ^
I am so tired of the scare tactics used to bully us into vaccinating. I need someone to explain to me how shooting such substances as mercury, alumnum, formaldehyde,and many others, directly into our bodies can in any way improve our health. Daily, we read that such substances in our water food and air are extrememly harmful to the brain and nervous system.

Only by being injected into our bloodstreams they are safe???? Oh please, how stupid do you think we are?

The studies proving a definite and direct connection between childhod vaccinations and Autism, ADD, allergies, and many other disabilities are deliberately left out of government studies.

Those "experts" telling us how safe vaccines are have strong financial ties to pharmaceutical companies. Some hold patents on certain vaccines.

Most unvaccinating patients and parents know more about vaccines than the physicians that push them on us.
Posted by:Connie RouxSeptember 17, 2008 11:42:19 AMRespond ^
This infant got pertussis because of the pertussis vaccine. Her mother, because she was vaccinated against pertussis as a child, did not have enough antibodies and immune factors to pass on to her child.

Contrary to what the Mr. Allen writes, pertussis never disappeared and in fact increased after pertussis vaccination became mandatory in the 1970s.

Pertussis is cyclical and outbreaks occur every 40-48 months irrespective of vaccination status. Further, deaths from pertussis decreased 99% BEFORE the vaccination was in widespread use. This is true for measles as well.

Let's investigate this - and please forgive my repetition. The mother developed whooping cough after she was most likely vaccinated 5 times as a child (as is required) – this is proof the vaccine does not work.

More proof? There are whooping cough, mumps and measles epidemics of vaccinated children as reported by the US gov’t.

Whenever criticism of vaccination occurs, MDs manufacturer an epidemic. We must ask, especially regarding the 131 measles cases – how many were laboratory confirmed? But let’s also put this in perspective. 131 cases of measles among 300 million people is no epidemic.

In this article blaming the baby's pertussis on non-vaccination is completely illogical. There is simply no way you can tie in low vaccination levels to pertussis outbreaks. That was even stated by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) after an Idaho pertussis outbreak in which almost everyone who caught the disease had been vaccinated.

Infants traditionally don't get pertussis because the receive immunity from their mother. The technical term for that is “transplacental immunity.” Vaccinations interfere with transplacental immunity and that is the reason the baby got pertussis (because the mother had been vaccinated and did not have good immune factors to transfer to her baby). If she had been breastfeeding the baby the child would have benefited and possibly come through the disease unscathed. Was she? We don't know that from the article and yet this is very important.

Had the mother not been vaccinated and been exposed to pertussis she would have anti-bodies etc. to give to her unborn child which would have given the child protection for the first few years of life.

Vaccination is the reason why this infant got pertussis.

When Sweden for example, completely banned pertussis vaccination (due to the high rate of brain damage from the shot (a fact Mr. Allen ignores), the age of occurrence of pertussis changed back from infants young children - who are far better able to handle the disease .

Infancy is a dangerous time to get pertussis, that is why pertussis vaccinations should be halted. If we did that then the age of occurrence would return to normal and infants would not be at risk.

Herd immunity does not work in vaccinated populations. Herd immunity was only observed in populations that contacted measles naturally.

Because MDs almost never report vaccine injury (based on FDA and other studies) we have no idea how many children get sick and die from vaccines. The parents of vaccine-injured children are told it was a “coincidence” their child got seizures, autism, brain damage” etc shortly after vaccination. How can they continue to tell this to hundreds of thousands of parents with a straight face? When do they finally realize the shots are hurting children?

MDs are not to be trusted when it comes to vaccine information because they have a financial interest in selling this product and they downplay (or never mention) the damage.

The damage is extensive - go to any school and see the kids on Ritalin, allergy or asthma medication or suffering from dyslexia or other "learning disorders."

Measles, mumps, chicken pox and even whooping cough may last a few days or weeks but autism is forever. This is the real reason why parents refuse to play Russian roulette with their child's health.

Dr. Tedd Koren
tkoren1@aol.com
Posted by:Dr. Tedd KorenSeptember 17, 2008 12:25:50 PMRespond ^
The cure for Whooping Cough is not necessarily a vaccine. It is caused by a bacteria: Bordatella pertussis, which is a small gram negative coccobacillus. Vaccines are a method of employing herd immunity on a population that you can't expect to be able to actually treat when they get sick. Sure, disease can overcome an individual if they are left untreated. Treatment does not necessarily have to mean drugs either.

Classical homeopathy is a proven treatment.

Other supportive means are:

Thymus: for whooping cough

Botanical treatment:

Elecampane/Inula: persistent coughs with abundant expectoration, chr bronchitis, after colds or influenza, or for vomiting due to irritant coughing. Adult dose--0.6-4ml
Yerba/Eriodictyon: debilitating coughs of chronic bronchitis & excess catarrh. 2ml is adult dose.
Grindelia: chr bronchitis with spasmodic coughs. Combined with other expectorants for rattling coughs with profuse secretion (esp yerba) 2-4ml adult dose.
Sundew/Drosera: for hoarse, resonant, or explosive, or nervous or spasmodic coughs like in measles or whooping cough. Sundew + pleurisy root for cough following influenza. Adult dose: 0.3-1.2ml.
Trifolium: dry, irritable coughs and spasmodic coughs as in measles.
Pleurisy root: acute bronchitis of influenza with tight, painful cough and difficult respiration. For children who have a reduction in respiratory secretions and chest is sore from coughing. Also used for fever with hot, dry skin.

If you are lucky enough to live in a state that licenses Naturopathic doctors, I encourage you to find one. They definitely treat seriously ill people, acute and chronic, daily with dramatic results.
Check out the AANP website for more information:
(http://naturopathic.org)

-- Jon Ritz
Student
scnm.edu

Posted by:Jon RitzSeptember 17, 2008 1:12:32 PMRespond ^
So, Mother Jones rails about the evil dishonest oil cartel, the military industrial establishment, the bankers & brokers, the insurance industry, Monsanto & GMO's etc.. But oh no, BIG PHARMA looks out for our best interest and we should trust them????!!! Say it aint so!! Very very disappointed.
Posted by:N. LaneSeptember 17, 2008 2:41:25 PMRespond ^
Hey People,

I am amazed when i read the wacked posts here about autism and vaccinations..!!!

What most people fail to address is that the rate of autism has increase with the AGE of PARENTS.!!!

Ever been to an autism support group..?

They are filled with people that SHOULD be Grandparents NOT parents..!!!

Humans were meant to have babies in there 20's, not there 40's!!!

Ask any doctor "Privately", and he will tell you that this is the REAL reason..:-)

If you lib's would have babies when GOD designed your body to have a child, then maybe your OLD breeding parts would stop putting out autistic kids..:-)

BIll
Posted by:Bill NighSeptember 17, 2008 3:38:35 PMRespond ^
I have read the article. I have nursed for about 25 years. More, personal experiences. So, I would like to add that our problem is not of the past or do to not having germs put into the body to weaken the body. More distrub it natural flow. . But, if one dares to investiage the eating habits of children and families - One will come to realize the problem is with the food/s we put into our bodies. Most of our food is not fit for pigs. We fail to realize that the body need s certain things to keep it well. When they are lacking - Illness results. Our government ought to police the food and drug companions who put poisons in our food. Nothing is so clear! But to be sure if we follow Nature's Laws we live happier and longer. In our society today, FEAR is the controlling factor to get us to conform.We are lazy, or distracted or unaware that we are being made predicable to the promoters thers interest. This, is the bottom line. There are other ways to explore the health issue. All foundation of healthier life style begins with conscious choices and informed decisions. We are in control. We do know!
Posted by:PatriciaSeptember 17, 2008 3:39:41 PMRespond ^
Not buying the herd immunity garbage. After all, the majority of all of our "political leaders" do not vaccinate their own families. Also, I am assuming that the vaccinated are the ones spreading the disease (live-virus vaccine literature says you are contagious for up to 6 weeks). The CDC knows this which is exactly why they are not testing the disease infected patients and comparing their strain to the one found in the vaccines in current use. I will never vaccinate my family, self or pets ever again after researching stealth viruses, vaccine ingredients, and reported statistics/deaths by the CDC. In case people are not aware, there is a major battle going on between the CDC and the anti-vax community. We wish to keep our children (and yours) healthy, but they see differently (keep people on medications for life thanks to vaccine side effects).
Posted by:DawnSeptember 17, 2008 3:52:41 PMRespond ^
You are a Dupe.I guess those charts that show these diseases disappearing before vaccines are made up. I'm also sure that there is no funny business going on in medical research. and Kids are severely sick today compared to 20 years ago because of all the good work by pediatricians and better diagnosis? Get a life
Posted by:Tony GiancolaSeptember 17, 2008 3:59:16 PMRespond ^
In your Vaccine Skeptics vs. Your Kids rant, you mention that Thimersol was removed from vaccines in 1999. Do your homework because that is not the case. You can search the net for vaccine ingredients and see it for yourself. Also, if we are vaccinated as children and that is supposed to provide us with immunity, then why didn't the Mayor or Helena Moran have immunity to whooping cough. I will tell you why, if it provides any immunity it is extremely short term. So I guess we probably should be pushing to vaccinate the kids with this specific vaccine at birth instead of at 2 months because we are leaving them and all adults around them vulnerable during that time period, aren't we?
The beauty of having your own website, blog, etc. is that you can really say whatever you want, but the shame in it is that people such as yourself are terribly misinformed and might actually influence a poor vulnerable soul out there.
Posted by:ElisabethSeptember 17, 2008 4:24:17 PMRespond ^
I've been immunized for everything there is, and I don't have autism or any other neurological disorders. Why not? Why would only a small percentage of people who are immunized have problems? I am a living data point. Explain me to me in a scientific manner. Try to keep the tone civil, people. And please leave the hyperbole and condescension at home.
Posted by:NGRSeptember 17, 2008 7:25:59 PMRespond ^
Ok, Arthur. You've spent many, many hours reading the science. Let's have at it, then. Give us your list of the dozen studies and let's go through them, one by one. I hope the "landmark" 2004 CDC study disproving a link between vaccines and autism is not included among them. Because a couple months ago, the CDC just went before Congress and said that their methodology and data were flawed. Oh, and we have a few studies for you, too. Your prose is pretty but facile. And your rhetoric is irresponsible. If you are truly as proficient on the subject as you claim to be, then you will surely be willing to participate in a debate. Say the word and we'll set it up. And if not, do us all a favor and fade into the background. These are deadly serious issues. And vastly more complex than a mere debate between pro- and anti-vaxers. Then again, maybe you already know this. Check out your buddy Paul Offit at www.PaulOffit.com.
Posted by:Louise Kuo HabakusSeptember 17, 2008 8:20:09 PMRespond ^
I'm glad you trust the doctors, because more of us are starting to agree about the unknown dangers of too many immunizations and what the long term effects on the immune system will be!!!!!
Posted by:GaylSeptember 17, 2008 9:04:21 PMRespond ^
These glorious doctors, the Paul Offits of the world. They know more then God. They told our mothers not to breast feed, because formula is better then mom's milk. They told us drug after drug after drug was safe, from thalidomide to baycol to vioxx. And they guarantee us that vaccines are safe, when they haven't done any double-blind placebo studies and haven't done any testing in combinations. Moms, take control of your body and your children's body, and don't let these fake heros inject their better-then-God remedies. We were created perfectly, and it took mankind to f* us up.
Posted by:AnneSSeptember 17, 2008 9:13:16 PMRespond ^
Who sponsors the studies that show there is no link between vaccinations and autisim?
Posted by:ElisabethSeptember 17, 2008 9:20:51 PMRespond ^
Ding Dong! Your body is designed to have babies till menopause, that would be in your 40's-even 50's. Your statemet about children with autisim being born to older parents is ridiculous, it happens to those in their teens, 20's, 30's etc..., and to numbskull republicans as wel as liberals and democrats
Posted by:ElisabethSeptember 17, 2008 9:41:36 PMRespond ^
My prior response was to Bill!
Posted by:ElisabethSeptember 17, 2008 9:44:09 PMRespond ^
"none of them contain a biologically-significant amount" of mercury except some flu vaccines...what's the latest recs from the CDC? "All babies starting at six months and pregnant women" should receive the flu shot. I did...and delivered my son prematurely three hours later.
Posted by:boxergirl8September 17, 2008 10:44:55 PMRespond ^
If the pertussis vaccine is effective, how come it didn't protect Helena Moran from the disease?
Posted by:Page SSeptember 18, 2008 1:35:07 AMRespond ^
Go To: http://www.drcarley.com/ for an excellent summary on how and why vaccines maim and kill thousands every year.
Posted by:Joe McGuireSeptember 18, 2008 10:40:10 AMRespond ^
Mother Jones, Smart, Fearless Journalism. I think not!
Posted by:Janet KeithSeptember 18, 2008 1:46:49 PMRespond ^
I'm pregnant, and plan to follow a delayed/reduced vaccination schedule, which is outlined here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html

I'm not stupid (quite the opposite), and I'm not selfish (I spend most of my time thinking about and working for the community). However, given the explosion of neurological and immune disorders in our nation over the last few decades, I believe some risk aversion is in order. The first rule of medicine, and health care, must be 'first do no harm'. And I am far from satisfied that we are doing no harm with our current vaccination regime.

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