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Sometimes it seems that Democrats do this with even more grim regularity than Republicans. John Edwards, for example, reassured the nation that "the hand of God today is in every step of what happens with me and every human being that exists on this planet." In the same forum, Hillary Clinton proclaimed that she "had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought. And that's all one can expect or hope for."

When religious language enters the political arena in this way, as an end in itself, it always sends the same symbolic message: Yes, Virginia (or Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina) there are absolute values, universal truths that can never change. You are not adrift in a sea of moral chaos. Elect me and you're sure to have a fixed mooring to hold you and your community fast forever.

That message does its work in cultural depths that arguments about the separation of church and state can never touch. Even if the candidates themselves don't always understand what their words are doing, this is the biggest, most overlooked piece in today's faith and politics puzzle—and once you start looking for it, you find it nearly everywhere on the political landscape.

The Threat to Democracy

So, when it comes to religion and politics, here's the most critical question: Should we turn the political arena into a stage to dramatize our quest for moral certainty? The simple answer is no—for lots of reasons.

For starters, it's a direct threat to democracy. The essence of our system is that we, the people, get to choose our values. We don't discover them inscribed in the cosmos. So everything must be open to question, to debate, and therefore to change. In a democracy, there should be no fixed truth except that everyone has the right to offer a new view—and to change his or her mind. It's a process whose outcome should never be predictable, a process without end. A claim to absolute truth—any absolute truth—stops that process.

For those of us who see the political arena as the place where the whole community gathers to work for a better world, it's even more important to insist that politics must be about large-scale change. The politics of moral absolutes sends just the opposite message: Don't worry, whatever small changes are necessary, it's only in order to resist the fundamental crumbling that frightens so many. Nothing really important can ever change.

Many liberals and progressives hear that profoundly conservative message even when it's hidden beneath all the reasonable arguments about church and state. That's one big reason they are often so quick to sound a shrill alarm at every sign of faith-based politics.

They also know how easy it is to go from "there is a fixed truth" to "I have that fixed truth." And they've seen that the fixed truth in question is all too often about personal behaviors that ought to be matters of free choice in a democracy.

Which brings us to the next danger: Words alone are rarely enough to reassure the uncertain. In fact, the more people rely on faith talk to pursue certainty, the more they may actually reinforce both anxiety and uncertainty. It's a small step indeed to move beyond the issue of individual self-control to controlling others through the passage of laws.

Campaigns to put the government's hands on our bodies are not usually missionary efforts meant to make us accept someone else's religion. They are much more often campaigns to stage symbolic dramas about self-control and moral reassurance.

Controlling the Passions

American culture has always put a spotlight on the question: Can you control your impulses and desires—especially sexual desires—enough to live up to the moral rules? As historian of religion John F. Wilson tells us, the quest for surety has typically focused on a "control of self" that "through discipline" finally becomes self-control. In the 2008 presidential campaign, this still remains true. Listen, for example, to Barack Obama: "My Bible tells me that if we train a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not turn from it. So I think faith and guidance can help fortify… a sense of reverence that all young people should have for the act of sexual intimacy."

Mitt Romney fit snugly into the same mold. He started his widely-heralded statement on religion by talking about a time when "our nation faced its greatest peril," a threat to "the survival of a free land." Was he talking about terrorism? No. He immediately went on to warn that the real danger comes from "human passions unbridled." Only morality and religion can do the necessary bridling, he argued, quoting John Adams to make his case: "Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people"—in other words, people who can control themselves. That's why "freedom requires religion."

All too often, though, the faith-talk view of freedom ends up taking away freedom. When Romney said he'd be "delighted" to sign "a federal ban on all abortions," only a minority of Americans approved of that position (if we can believe the polls), but it was a sizeable minority. For them, fear of unbridled passion is stronger than any commitment to personal freedom.

In the end, it may be mostly their own passions that they fear. But since the effort to control oneself is frustrating, it can easily turn into a quest for "control over other selves," to quote historian Wilson again, "with essentially bipolar frameworks for conceiving of the world: good versus bad, us versus them"—"them" being liberals, secular humanists, wild kids, or whatever label the moment calls for.

The upholders of virtue want to convince each other that their values are absolutely true. So they stick together and stand firm against those who walk in error. As Romney put it, "Any person who has knelt in prayer to the Almighty has a friend and ally in me."

That's the main dynamic driving the movements to ban abortion and gay marriage. But they're just the latest in a long line of such movements, including those aimed at prohibiting or restricting alcohol, drugs, gambling, birth control, crime, and other behaviors that are, in a given period, styled as immoral.

Since it's always about getting "them" to control their passions, the target is usually personal behavior. But it doesn't have to be. Just about any law or policy can become a symbol of eternal moral truth—even foreign policy, one area where liberals, embarked on their own faith-talk campaigns, are more likely to join conservatives.

The bipartisan war on terror has, for instance, been a symbolic drama of "us versus them," acting out a tale of moral truth. Rudolph Giuliani made the connection clear shortly after the 9/11 attack when he went to the United Nations to whip up support for that "war." "The era of moral relativism… must end," he demanded. "Moral relativism does not have a place in this discussion and debate."

Nor does it have a place in the current campaign debate about foreign policy. Candidate Huckabee, for example, has no hesitation about linking war abroad to the state of morality here at home. He wants to continue fighting in Iraq, he says, because "our way of life, our economic and moral strength, our civilization is at stake… I am determined to look this evil in the eye, confront it, defeat it." As his anti-gay marriage statement asks, "What's the point of keeping the terrorists at bay in the Middle East, if we can't keep decline and decadence at bay here at home?"

On the liberal side, the theme is more muted but still there. Barack Obama, for instance, has affirmed that the U.S. must "lead the world in battling immediate evils and promoting the ultimate good. I still believe that America is the last, best hope of Earth." Apparently that's why we need to keep tens of thousands of troops in Iraq indefinitely. Clinton calls for "a bipartisan consensus to ensure our interests, increase our security and advance our values," acting out "our deeply-held desire to remake the world as it ought to be." Apparently that's why, in her words, "we cannot take any option off the table in sending a clear message to the current leadership of Iran."

When words and policies become symbols of moral absolutes, they are usually about preventing some "evil" deed or turning things back to the way they (supposedly) used to be. So they are likely to have a conservative impact, even when they come from liberals.

The Future of Faith Talk

In itself, faith in politics poses no great danger to democracy as long as the debates are really about policies—and religious values are translated into political values, articulated in ways that can be rationally debated by people who don't share them. The challenge is not to get religion out of politics. It's to get the quest for certitude out of politics.

The first step is to ask why that quest seems increasingly central to our politics today. It's not simply because a right-wing cabal wants to impose its religion on us. The cabal exists, but it's not powerful enough to shape the political scene on its own. That power lies with millions of voters across the political spectrum. Candidates talk about faith because they want to win votes.

Voters reward faith talk because they want candidates to offer them symbols of immutable moral order. The root of the problem lies in the underlying insecurities of voters, in a sense of powerlessness that makes change seem so frightening, and control—especially of others—so necessary.

The only way to alter that condition is to transform our society so that voters will feel empowered enough to take the risks, and tolerate the freedom that democracy requires. That would be genuine change. It's a political problem with a political solution. Until that solution begins to emerge, there is no way to take the conservative symbolic message of faith talk out of American politics.

Ira Chernus is Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder and author of Monsters To Destroy: The Neoconservative War on Terror and Sin.



 

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Posted by:CharlotteJanuary 14, 2008 11:13:07 AMRespond ^
Is religion a threat to democracy?? YES
Posted by:MichaelJanuary 14, 2008 12:32:21 PMRespond ^
It is a bit much to say that "there should be no fixed truth except that everyone has the right to offer a new view," and "we, the people, get to choose our values," is a bit much. I am sure that the National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930's and 40's (NAZI Germany) was just carrying out the values of "we the German people," however does that make the extermination of millions of Jews somehow right because the majority agreed with the action? Unless you are willing to abrogate Hitler, Stalin, Mussolinis, and every other war criminal elected by their respective country you do believe that there is an absolute truth. This seems to be a fairly liberal article, so I must ask - George Bush was elected by "we the people" by the Constitutionally approved method in 2000, went to war in Iraq, and was reelected in 2004. Since he was elected by "we the people," and is therefore an agreed upon representative of American values, does that make every one of his actions justified? Those who said "we do not want to continue this war" were outvoted in 2004, so does that necessarily mean the war was the right moral choice?
Posted by:ChadJanuary 14, 2008 1:41:40 PMRespond ^
Ok, I know that secularists don't like this argument but, isn't saying "We shouldn't talk about religion in politics" a threat to democracy? Isn't it just as much of a threat? If America CHOOSES someone of a particular faith because of particular values - well isn't that democracy too? Until those "evil Christians" force you to vote in public how are they threatening your right to choose? Your vote counts just as much as mine. No more, no less. Your views count just as much as mine. No more, no less. The public majority disagreeing with the way YOU think does not threaten democracy, you hypocrite.
Posted by:AaronJanuary 14, 2008 2:43:50 PMRespond ^
In a democracy, people get to choose their values? What if we agreed to kill every atheist? The atheist complains and the author replies, well, the people decided. This is nonsense. Bill Taylor
Posted by:wtaylorJanuary 14, 2008 7:30:12 PMRespond ^
When it comes down to tough questions about public policy, Religion will not tolerate a secular democracy and is a grave fanger to democratic governments. Why? Because, religious zealots assert a higher cause above the "rule of men" and simply dismiss as blasphemy or sin any democratic law that constradicts their interpretation of sacred law. Zealots do not feel compelled to offer a reasonably argued objection and/or make make a retort to demonstrable facts. They argue from faith, and will broker no compromise. Abortion, Gay Marriage, Female priests, and Righteous War are all current taboo values that are not being compromised by the zealots. Historically, Christians have railed against interracial marriage, have argued in favor from scripture in support of slavery, and treated women as chattle dismissing their rights to vote and control their own health decisions in modern times. No. Since religious zealots argue from a vantage point of faith and god's law and imagine a theocratic paradise to be ideal,they will always remain a grave threat to democracies around the world.
Posted by:CWFAJanuary 14, 2008 8:01:57 PMRespond ^
True religion certainly is not a threat to democracy but instead will save humanity. Every single major religion be it of the Hebrews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians, Hindu's, Shinto's, etc... if you dig back, all begin with a Tree of Life as sacrament. This Tree was a source of food, fuel, shelter, clothing, medicine, pleasure, and spirituality for God's early people. Throughout history with the addition of new technologies and customs this plant was sometimes forgotten and knowledge of it's many uses lost. Such is the case today. In fact this plant is not simply forgotten but demonized in today's world. The Truth is that we now know that it actually destroy's tumors, promotes the growth of brain cells, prevents Alzheimers, and is being used in Canada and Europe for MS, epilepsy, autism, diabetes, chronic pain, nausea, migraine, arthritis, cystic fibrosis, herpes, skin conditions, obesity, alcoholism, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Crohns disease and more. Yet here in the land of the free our FDA refuses to allow testing. This plant can be used to produce over 25,000 products. Anything made from oil, coal, timber or cotton can be made with it. All paper, plastics, packaging, paints, varnishes, textiles, fuels, lubricants, many health foods, cosmetics and much more can all be made with it and ecologically friendly. It requires few if any fertilizers, herbicides, or pesticides and grows in soil and conditions other crops wont grow, and, almost everywhere from the Equator to the Arctic circle. Every Nation can utilize it! It's seed is the single most nutritious thing you can eat, being sold around the world but not here, though you can buy the oil. Our Government stockpiles it as a strategic food source under Executive order #12919, yet again, deny it to us today. Currently China produces 40% of the worlds supply of this resource and is developing new technologies for advanced plastics, textiles, paper, plywood, and fuel while we are censored here at home. In fact the United States is one of a few Nations left that still refuses to grow it, to the Canadians delight. This lack of information puts our once great Nation at risk. A Nation itself that once allowed taxes to be paid with this plant in Colonial day's. The Mayflowers sails were of it's cloth. Betsy Ross's flag was made with it, and the first draft of the Constitution is on it's paper. This wonderful plant is Kaneh bosm, cannabis, hemp!!!!!!! God actually instructs Moses to use 250 shekels of it in the Holy Oil used to anoint all Kings, Priests, and Prophets, for all generations to come including that of Jesus and even today as the title Christ/Messiah means literally covered in oil, Anointed. It is also listed as an Incense Tree in Song of Songs 4:14 and named in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to anointing and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible. The Greeks somehow mistranslated the Word "kaneh bosm" as calamus when they rendered the Holy Books in the 3rd century B.C., and the error was then propagated from the Greek in all future translations. Hebrew became disused as a spoken language around this time and was not revived again until the late 1800's. Calamus at that time and even today is used as an aphrodisiac and is itself mood altering, producing the drug asarone, a precurser to the psychedelic phenethylamine. I prefer cannabis and so does God as sacrament! We are about to enter a new era, America needs to open it's eyes or be left behind. What kind of Godly nation demonizes Gods favorite sacrament? The world is in need of the One True Religion, one that unify's and provides rather than many that divide and destroy. Psalm 133.... Peace!!! Garry Minor... Columbus Cannabis Ministry... THC Ministry's... Columbus Indiana
Posted by:Garry MinorJanuary 15, 2008 10:41:29 AMRespond ^
CWFA, Christians do have a right to believe their country should be governed the way they feel best, correct? Just as everyone else does in a democracy? To live in America is to live under majority rule. Of course there are laws that Christians don't like that they are trying to change and vote against... Is that different than what you do based on your values? Forgive me for believing differently than you. I do not believe same-sex marriage is right. I don't believe that abortion is right.And if you do, than I do not think that you are right. However I am not saying that you should not have a role in the political process due to your questionable (according to me) moral base. Have some manipulated the Word of God to unrighteous ends? I cannot deny that. But it is funny to think that all of the ills of society in American history are due to the insidious, diabolical Christians. (or Muslims, or Jews) When surely secular society has been just as manipulative and dangerous, if not more. I pray for those who have used the Lord's name to self-serving ends, but that does not make Christianity evil.
Posted by:AaronJanuary 15, 2008 2:23:33 PMRespond ^
After reading some of these post I know that Religion is a threat. It HAS been since the beginning of civilzation (can't spell this morning!) Muslim, Christianity...both have a long history of blood on their hands and it is really scary. I am not Atheist though, not that it should matter. Hitler was a devote Christian too... so is the Vatican that got corrupt in the Middle ages and burned everyone and any book in site that did not agree with them and taught a higher education...so much for killing for your god.
Posted by:CoventinaJanuary 16, 2008 4:48:51 AMRespond ^
The point of creating the constitution in a way oriented towards certain inalienable rights is to say that there exist concepts concerning the individual that are more universal than the idiosyncrasies of a given religion’s moral foundation. That would seem to suggest that if we say that a religion has the right to assert itself in a way that oppresses these universal rights because a majority holds these beliefs to be true then we have in essence destroyed the foundation for our system of democracy. The set of individual rights were apparently viewed by the creators of our democratic system as being more primary than majority rule. Majority rule unless constrained by these constitutional foundations becomes merely mob rule. Still there will always be problems in which the question of whether an individual’s rights are an infringement upon the society as a whole or an infringement upon another individual. For example abortion is difficult to accept if the unborn child is considered a living being—hence entitled to rights, while to others it is not a living being before it achieves a certain level of physiological development thus making abortion acceptable. Issues such as this will never really be settled because the argument cannot be voiced by all the parties under consideration—namely the unborn fetus and hence such issues may well fall completely within the domain of majority rule and I’m sure that we will see in the future that the question of abortion will swing back and forth between being legal and not legal, much like the question of the death penalty or suicide (in the sense of assisted death in the case of extremely ill people). That there are issues that are borderline cases will of course be those issues where the majority will impose their power upon the whole of society, which is perhaps all the more reason that the concept of inalienable rights must be further developed. For example in the case of medical care, in terms of housing, in terms of a great many aspects that comprise life itself—should we say that our society guarantees all of its inhabitants the right to medical care, or entitles all individuals to some form of housing as opposed to letting good people suffer or die on the street or to live out of cardboard box? Many places in the world say that the right to eat, to be clothed, to have a place of residence, to have the right to medical care comprise the meaning of being human and a member of society thus these sorts of things falls under the responsibility of all members of the society (it defines our sense of solidarity and the feeling of community) to make sure that these fundamental rights are provided to all members of society. Society as a whole defines our sense of being human— thus by defining these constituent parts we can perhaps better define that which falls to the individual and that which falls to the group. Still it seems to me that religion is not in itself a threat to democracy but rather is an integral part of it, because humanity is that species that has god built into its constitution in a biological sense. I don’t mean that we are in fact a product of god but rather the archeological evidence suggests that we have participated in ritualized behavior long before the rise of civilization—especially in relation to sacrifice and in terms of cave paintings and various forms of sculptures. We are a species of many bizarre rituals and systems of belief that incorporate a supreme deity or deities into our cosmic map. At this particular moment in time we are obviously clinging to God in an exaggerated manner, which does strike me as a danger to not just democracy but to the well being of the world as a whole. Perhaps this aspect of religious fanaticism is what needs to be discussed in an open fashion.
Posted by:KirilovslogicJanuary 17, 2008 4:19:13 AMRespond ^
Answer to the question is YES. A lot of us Born agains weren't born REPUBLICANS we were born again with a BRAIN and a HEART
Posted by:Earl WeisJanuary 18, 2008 7:39:00 AMRespond ^
Just because the majority of people thought the world was flat at one time did not make it so. Just because the majority believes that gay marraige is wrong does not make it so, and the constitution says we all have a right to pursue happiness in our own way. As an athiest biologist, I am disturbed when faith based arguments are held up against scientifically sound arguments as if they were equal in weight. It is a fact that other animals (yes we are heterotrophic, eukaryotic, multicellular organisms like all the other animals on this planet) are also homosexual on occasion. This would support the hypothesis that this behavior can have its basis in genetics and not merely through environmental conditions and upbringing. Hence,to discriminate against homosexuals is equal to that against skin color or gender.This is based on observation and evidence ,not some bronze age text that some still feel compelled to believe in and force upon others. Might does not make right. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.
Posted by:danJanuary 18, 2008 12:43:06 PMRespond ^
Will the larger American concept of democracy be influenced by the forms of democracy that manifest in the religions of its leaders? There are many ways Mormon beliefs are enforced with violence, manipulation and aggression, and one of the scariest things for me was seeing how difficult it is for the majority of Mormons to separate the teachings and commandments of the church from the political realm. I don't know about baptists and christians, but it actually seems there is more democracy in these religions. Individual women and men can start their own ministries (if they can fundraise). Leaders at the top are elected (by heads of local churches, even if not members), and people competing for positions are sometimes put in the spotlight if they hold views of doctorine people differ with. This causes controversy and discussion, and allows for contest. In the Mormon church there is no contest. In fact, mormons would argue that allowing people to vote on doctorine sort of defeats the point (as doctorine comes from god, you can't just decide to adopt the truth most appealing to the masses). In the Mormon church you can't choose which ward you go to--you are assigned based upon where you live to a specific meeting house and time slot. You can't go to church with your friend becasue your bishop is particularly sexist, for example. Mormons sustain their leaders as a congregation, but this is more of a tolken practice. It's a way of showing support. Votes aren't counted before someone is apointed, and if lots of people dissagreed the response from leadership would be informal at best (maybe they would hold a meeting to see why you disagreed, or talk to you after sacrement meeting to ask why you voted not to sustain a leader, but they wouldn't remove him from his position). There are also many ways Mormon beliefs are enforced with violence, manipulation and aggression. I experienced this personally--it's not something a lot of Mormons would believe, even though it's something many of them do. It's hard because screaming at your kids, locking them in their room to study the sriptures, fighting with them and "loosing control" and hitting them--these things happen a lot. They aren't considered to be forms of manipulation and violence, but they are. Look at God's Army, for example. In this Mormon film a missionary wants to go home. His leader throws him into a wall and starts screaming at him. My parents said "he is a good leader, he loves the missionaries he serves," when they saw this scene. The boy later came to thank his leader for preventing him from making a mistake. I often felt physically unsafe due to outbursts of aggression that erupted when I simply offered opposing views on issues like gender, politics and the environment. My parents bishop (whom I had never met) exploded at me when I bumped into him at my parent’s wedding. I had taken my name of the lists of the Mormon church and he was angry. One of the scariest things for me was seeing how difficult it is for the majority of Mormons to separate the teachings and commandments of the church from the political realm. Even though Romney would surly promise to abide by the laws (Mormons are very good citizens), I worry about electing someone that comes from an institution that is undemocratic. The problem is that the Mormon church plays a huge part of your life--it's not like you just go to meetings on Sunday and then go back to our normal life. The Church influences every aspect of your thinking. Even if church leaders wouldn't directly inluence government decisions through Mit Romney, the ways of thinking put forth by the church are deep forms of socialization. They are very unique, and there are big consequenses for those who dissagree.
Posted by:Romney and DemocracyJanuary 18, 2008 3:22:54 PMRespond ^
Religion is a threat to the world
Posted by:pachoJanuary 19, 2008 7:30:23 AMRespond ^
We Need Firm Separation of Church and State. Huckabee and his evangelical radicals endanger our liberty. That we have a nation of faith is good. That we have a nation where many different faiths can coexist respectfully is wonderful. Religious liberty is fundamental in democracy. I respect the many different faiths represented by the different candidate but do resent the one candidate that has tried to push religion (not faith) into the mix. My favorite candidate is a Christian man of faith, but he is also adamant about freedom of religion and would never push his faith through a political position. In fact, to do so would be out of keeping with his doctrine, one of which is "let all men worship how, where and what they may." If you are still reading, I am going to list reasons why I support Mitt Romney: I do think he is the most electable candidate for the Republican party. 1. We need his economic expertise and experience creating and holding jobs. He has real world experience dealing in today's global marketplace. Without a strong economy, nothing else works. Romney is or best hope to grow our economy. Many people consider Romney an economic genius. 2. Romney has a history of asking the right questions, listening intently, evaluating carefully and decisively LEADING. He brings new vision, efficiency, and energy to every endeavor 3. Romney has impeccable integrity and high standards. He is absolutely trustworthy. 4. Romney stands firmly in support of our constitution. He supports states rights and individual rights. He is committed to the preservation of our freedoms. 5. Romney is strong on education. While his was governor, Massachusetts students ranked #l in the nation in education. He will encourage innovation in technology and research and development to find answers to the energy crisis. Romney is an exceedingly intelligent man and proven problem solver! 6. Romney is committed to a strong national defense. He will protect our borders and keep our nation safe. He is also an excellent negotiator. 7. Romney will work to ensure our laws are enforced, our borders are secure, and illegal immigration is controlled. 8. Romney is a self-made man who owes no one favors. He will bring fresh voices and new ideas to the table. Romney will bring dignity and respect to the office of President. 9. Romney is a committed family man. He supports socially conservative values and walks the walk in his personal life. 10. Romney has strong grass roots support all across the west. He is an excellent strategist and a winner.
Posted by:NFayeJanuary 20, 2008 3:00:56 PMRespond ^
"Just because the majority of people thought the world was flat at one time did not make it so. Just because the majority believes that gay marraige is wrong does not make it so, and the constitution says we all have a right to pursue happiness in our own way. As an athiest biologist, I am disturbed when faith based arguments are held up against scientifically sound arguments as if they were equal in weight. It is a fact that other animals (yes we are heterotrophic, eukaryotic, multicellular organisms like all the other animals on this planet) are also homosexual on occasion. This would support the hypothesis that this behavior can have its basis in genetics and not merely through environmental conditions and upbringing. Hence,to discriminate against homosexuals is equal to that against skin color or gender.This is based on observation and evidence ,not some bronze age text that some still feel compelled to believe in and force upon others. Might does not make right. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion." I am for gay rights, but not based on such a naturalistic fallacy. The comment I have just quoted is a classic example of the is-ought fallacy. Does the fact that certain species are cannibalistic justify human cannibalism? Like I said before, I'm for gay-rights, but not based how other species behave. This type of naturalistic reasoning undermines any law or ideal whatsoever.
Posted by:SethJanuary 21, 2008 9:22:01 PMRespond ^

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