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[Introduction by Tom Engelhardt]

Here's the strange thing: If we are in a political "season of change" and "change" is now the word most used by presidential candidates, change isn't exactly valued when it comes to presidential runs themselves. Take, for example, the Democratic debate moderated by ABC News' Charlie Gibson a week ago. In that mere hour and a half of television, Gibson, his TV sidekicks like George Stephanopoulos, and the four candidates managed to use the "C" word some 48 times -- being "agents of" or "power voices for change," "making," "delivering," "producing," "advocating for," "fighting for," "believing deeply in," "loving," even "embody[ing] change." In the process, they just about ground change into the dust. But lurking in the background was another use of that word—as an accusation—and it went unnoticed.

Here's Hillary Clinton, for example, launching an attack on Barack Obama:

"You know, I think that, two weeks ago, you criticized Senator Edwards in saying that he was unelectable because he had changed positions over the course of four years, that four years ago he wasn't for universal health care; now, he is. Well, you've changed positions within three years on, you know, a range of issues that you put forth when you ran for the Senate, and now you have changed."

To which, Obama had to respond: "I have been entirely consistent in my position on health care…"

This is typical of our electoral moment and it's another little legacy of the Bush era. You can probably thank Karl Rove for this one because in 2004, handling a notoriously single-minded, inflexible, and stubborn candidate, he managed to turn the "C" word into a curse no one is likely to forget. To change, you remember, was actually to "flip-flop." And if there's one thing in the post-2004 era that no candidate can now afford to be charged with, it's flipping and flopping like a fish on the deck of a ship.

John Edwards, for instance, recently changed his position on Iraq in a significant way. While still in the Iowa caucus race, he called for the withdrawal within 10 months of all American troops in Iraq (except for a few thousand soldiers left to guard the Baghdad embassy), including the trainers of Iraqi troops. Previously, like the other two leading candidates, he had only called for the withdrawal of American "combat troops" who make up perhaps half of the U.S. troop contingent. He was not challenged on this in the debate, but had he been, he would surely have little choice but to claim that he, too, had somehow been "consistent," that he hadn't flip-flopped on Iraq.

As a result, the "change" candidates of 2008, wielding the "C" word for an audience "fired up" for… well, you know what, so just shout it out… must themselves swear that they are "consistent" in their positions, that, in short, they do not change. The one thing these candidates of change can't go out in public and say is something like: "Well, that was 2002, but in the intervening years, I've done a lot of thinking, had new experiences, grown, matured… changed, and so has my position on [you fill in the issue]."

Change may, or may not, turn out to be the Pied Piper of 2008 for the American voter, but it surely will remain the Scylla and Charybdis of twenty-first century presidential politics. So watch out… be consistent… go (like the Republican candidates) for the "eternal" verities… and, while you're at it, consider the nature of religious consistency in politics, because this election is, so far, not just the non-flip-flop election, but the "faith" election in which even Hillary Clinton has a "Faith, Family and Values" team on her campaign staff, while John McCain claimed on the campaign trail that he thought the Constitution had established a "Christian nation"… but let Tomdispatch regular and professor of religion Ira Chernus tell you the rest. Tom Engelhardt

Is Religion a Threat to Democracy?
Faith talk on the campaign trail.
By Ira Chernus

It's a presidential campaign like no other. The candidates have been falling all over each other in their rush to declare the depth and sincerity of their religious faith. The pundits have been just as eager to raise questions that seem obvious and important: Should we let religious beliefs influence the making of law and public policy? If so, in what way and to what extent? Those questions, however, assume that candidates bring the subject of faith into the political arena largely to justify—or turn up the heat under—their policy positions. In fact, faith talk often has little to do with candidates' stands on the issues. There's something else going on here.

Look at the TV ad that brought Mike Huckabee out of obscurity in Iowa, the one that identified him as a "Christian Leader" who proclaims: "Faith doesn't just influence me. It really defines me." That ad did indeed mention a couple of actual political issues—the usual suspects, abortion and gay marriage—but only in passing. Then Huckabee followed up with a red sweater-themed Christmas ad that actively encouraged voters to ignore the issues. We're all tired of politics, the kindly pastor indicated. Let's just drop all the policy stuff and talk about Christmas—and Christ.

Ads like his aren't meant to argue policy. They aim to create an image—in this case, of a good Christian with a steady moral compass who sticks to his principles. At a deeper level, faith-talk ads work hard to turn the candidate—whatever candidate—into a bulwark of solidity, a symbol of certainty; their goal is to offer assurance that the basic rules for living remain fixed, objective truths, as true as religion.

In a time when the world seems like a shaky place—whether you have a child in Iraq, a mortgage you may not be able to meet, a pension threatening to head south, a job evaporating under you, a loved one battling drug or alcohol addiction, an ex who just came out as gay or born-again, or a president you just can't trust—you may begin to wonder whether there is any moral order in the universe. Are the very foundations of society so shaky that they might not hold up for long? Words about faith—nearly any words—speak reassuringly to such fears, which haunt millions of Americans.

These fears and the religious responses to them have been a key to the political success of the religious right in recent decades. Randall Balmer, a leading scholar of evangelical Christianity, points out that it's offered not so much "issues" to mobilize around as "an unambiguous morality in an age of moral and ethical uncertainty."

Mitt Romney was courting the evangelical-swinging-toward-Huckabee vote when he, too, went out of his way to link religion with moral absolutes in his big Iowa speech on faith. Our "common creed of moral convictions… the firm ground on which Americans of different faiths meet" turned out, utterly unsurprisingly, to be none other than religious soil: "We believe that every single human being is a child of God… liberty is a gift of God." No doubts allowed here.

American politicians have regularly wielded religious language and symbolism in their moments of need, and such faith talk has always helped provide a sense of moral certainty in a shape-shifting world. But in the better years of the previous century, candidates used religion mostly as an adjunct to the real meat of the political process, a tool to whip up support for policies.

How times have changed. Think of it, perhaps, as a way to measure the powerful sense of unsettledness that has taken a firm hold on American society. Candidates increasingly keep their talk about religion separate from specific campaign issues. They promote faith as something important and valuable in and of itself in the election process. They invariably avow the deep roots of their religious faith and link it not with issues, but with certitude itself.



 

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Posted by:CharlotteJanuary 14, 2008 11:13:07 AMRespond ^
Is religion a threat to democracy?? YES
Posted by:MichaelJanuary 14, 2008 12:32:21 PMRespond ^
It is a bit much to say that "there should be no fixed truth except that everyone has the right to offer a new view," and "we, the people, get to choose our values," is a bit much. I am sure that the National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930's and 40's (NAZI Germany) was just carrying out the values of "we the German people," however does that make the extermination of millions of Jews somehow right because the majority agreed with the action? Unless you are willing to abrogate Hitler, Stalin, Mussolinis, and every other war criminal elected by their respective country you do believe that there is an absolute truth. This seems to be a fairly liberal article, so I must ask - George Bush was elected by "we the people" by the Constitutionally approved method in 2000, went to war in Iraq, and was reelected in 2004. Since he was elected by "we the people," and is therefore an agreed upon representative of American values, does that make every one of his actions justified? Those who said "we do not want to continue this war" were outvoted in 2004, so does that necessarily mean the war was the right moral choice?
Posted by:ChadJanuary 14, 2008 1:41:40 PMRespond ^
Ok, I know that secularists don't like this argument but, isn't saying "We shouldn't talk about religion in politics" a threat to democracy? Isn't it just as much of a threat? If America CHOOSES someone of a particular faith because of particular values - well isn't that democracy too? Until those "evil Christians" force you to vote in public how are they threatening your right to choose? Your vote counts just as much as mine. No more, no less. Your views count just as much as mine. No more, no less. The public majority disagreeing with the way YOU think does not threaten democracy, you hypocrite.
Posted by:AaronJanuary 14, 2008 2:43:50 PMRespond ^
In a democracy, people get to choose their values? What if we agreed to kill every atheist? The atheist complains and the author replies, well, the people decided. This is nonsense. Bill Taylor
Posted by:wtaylorJanuary 14, 2008 7:30:12 PMRespond ^
When it comes down to tough questions about public policy, Religion will not tolerate a secular democracy and is a grave fanger to democratic governments. Why? Because, religious zealots assert a higher cause above the "rule of men" and simply dismiss as blasphemy or sin any democratic law that constradicts their interpretation of sacred law. Zealots do not feel compelled to offer a reasonably argued objection and/or make make a retort to demonstrable facts. They argue from faith, and will broker no compromise. Abortion, Gay Marriage, Female priests, and Righteous War are all current taboo values that are not being compromised by the zealots. Historically, Christians have railed against interracial marriage, have argued in favor from scripture in support of slavery, and treated women as chattle dismissing their rights to vote and control their own health decisions in modern times. No. Since religious zealots argue from a vantage point of faith and god's law and imagine a theocratic paradise to be ideal,they will always remain a grave threat to democracies around the world.
Posted by:CWFAJanuary 14, 2008 8:01:57 PMRespond ^
True religion certainly is not a threat to democracy but instead will save humanity. Every single major religion be it of the Hebrews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians, Hindu's, Shinto's, etc... if you dig back, all begin with a Tree of Life as sacrament. This Tree was a source of food, fuel, shelter, clothing, medicine, pleasure, and spirituality for God's early people. Throughout history with the addition of new technologies and customs this plant was sometimes forgotten and knowledge of it's many uses lost. Such is the case today. In fact this plant is not simply forgotten but demonized in today's world. The Truth is that we now know that it actually destroy's tumors, promotes the growth of brain cells, prevents Alzheimers, and is being used in Canada and Europe for MS, epilepsy, autism, diabetes, chronic pain, nausea, migraine, arthritis, cystic fibrosis, herpes, skin conditions, obesity, alcoholism, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Crohns disease and more. Yet here in the land of the free our FDA refuses to allow testing. This plant can be used to produce over 25,000 products. Anything made from oil, coal, timber or cotton can be made with it. All paper, plastics, packaging, paints, varnishes, textiles, fuels, lubricants, many health foods, cosmetics and much more can all be made with it and ecologically friendly. It requires few if any fertilizers, herbicides, or pesticides and grows in soil and conditions other crops wont grow, and, almost everywhere from the Equator to the Arctic circle. Every Nation can utilize it! It's seed is the single most nutritious thing you can eat, being sold around the world but not here, though you can buy the oil. Our Government stockpiles it as a strategic food source under Executive order #12919, yet again, deny it to us today. Currently China produces 40% of the worlds supply of this resource and is developing new technologies for advanced plastics, textiles, paper, plywood, and fuel while we are censored here at home. In fact the United States is one of a few Nations left that still refuses to grow it, to the Canadians delight. This lack of information puts our once great Nation at risk. A Nation itself that once allowed taxes to be paid with this plant in Colonial day's. The Mayflowers sails were of it's cloth. Betsy Ross's flag was made with it, and the first draft of the Constitution is on it's paper. This wonderful plant is Kaneh bosm, cannabis, hemp!!!!!!! God actually instructs Moses to use 250 shekels of it in the Holy Oil used to anoint all Kings, Priests, and Prophets, for all generations to come including that of Jesus and even today as the title Christ/Messiah means literally covered in oil, Anointed. It is also listed as an Incense Tree in Song of Songs 4:14 and named in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to anointing and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible. The Greeks somehow mistranslated the Word "kaneh bosm" as calamus when they rendered the Holy Books in the 3rd century B.C., and the error was then propagated from the Greek in all future translations. Hebrew became disused as a spoken language around this time and was not revived again until the late 1800's. Calamus at that time and even today is used as an aphrodisiac and is itself mood altering, producing the drug asarone, a precurser to the psychedelic phenethylamine. I prefer cannabis and so does God as sacrament! We are about to enter a new era, America needs to open it's eyes or be left behind. What kind of Godly nation demonizes Gods favorite sacrament? The world is in need of the One True Religion, one that unify's and provides rather than many that divide and destroy. Psalm 133.... Peace!!! Garry Minor... Columbus Cannabis Ministry... THC Ministry's... Columbus Indiana
Posted by:Garry MinorJanuary 15, 2008 10:41:29 AMRespond ^
CWFA, Christians do have a right to believe their country should be governed the way they feel best, correct? Just as everyone else does in a democracy? To live in America is to live under majority rule. Of course there are laws that Christians don't like that they are trying to change and vote against... Is that different than what you do based on your values? Forgive me for believing differently than you. I do not believe same-sex marriage is right. I don't believe that abortion is right.And if you do, than I do not think that you are right. However I am not saying that you should not have a role in the political process due to your questionable (according to me) moral base. Have some manipulated the Word of God to unrighteous ends? I cannot deny that. But it is funny to think that all of the ills of society in American history are due to the insidious, diabolical Christians. (or Muslims, or Jews) When surely secular society has been just as manipulative and dangerous, if not more. I pray for those who have used the Lord's name to self-serving ends, but that does not make Christianity evil.
Posted by:AaronJanuary 15, 2008 2:23:33 PMRespond ^
After reading some of these post I know that Religion is a threat. It HAS been since the beginning of civilzation (can't spell this morning!) Muslim, Christianity...both have a long history of blood on their hands and it is really scary. I am not Atheist though, not that it should matter. Hitler was a devote Christian too... so is the Vatican that got corrupt in the Middle ages and burned everyone and any book in site that did not agree with them and taught a higher education...so much for killing for your god.
Posted by:CoventinaJanuary 16, 2008 4:48:51 AMRespond ^
The point of creating the constitution in a way oriented towards certain inalienable rights is to say that there exist concepts concerning the individual that are more universal than the idiosyncrasies of a given religion’s moral foundation. That would seem to suggest that if we say that a religion has the right to assert itself in a way that oppresses these universal rights because a majority holds these beliefs to be true then we have in essence destroyed the foundation for our system of democracy. The set of individual rights were apparently viewed by the creators of our democratic system as being more primary than majority rule. Majority rule unless constrained by these constitutional foundations becomes merely mob rule. Still there will always be problems in which the question of whether an individual’s rights are an infringement upon the society as a whole or an infringement upon another individual. For example abortion is difficult to accept if the unborn child is considered a living being—hence entitled to rights, while to others it is not a living being before it achieves a certain level of physiological development thus making abortion acceptable. Issues such as this will never really be settled because the argument cannot be voiced by all the parties under consideration—namely the unborn fetus and hence such issues may well fall completely within the domain of majority rule and I’m sure that we will see in the future that the question of abortion will swing back and forth between being legal and not legal, much like the question of the death penalty or suicide (in the sense of assisted death in the case of extremely ill people). That there are issues that are borderline cases will of course be those issues where the majority will impose their power upon the whole of society, which is perhaps all the more reason that the concept of inalienable rights must be further developed. For example in the case of medical care, in terms of housing, in terms of a great many aspects that comprise life itself—should we say that our society guarantees all of its inhabitants the right to medical care, or entitles all individuals to some form of housing as opposed to letting good people suffer or die on the street or to live out of cardboard box? Many places in the world say that the right to eat, to be clothed, to have a place of residence, to have the right to medical care comprise the meaning of being human and a member of society thus these sorts of things falls under the responsibility of all members of the society (it defines our sense of solidarity and the feeling of community) to make sure that these fundamental rights are provided to all members of society. Society as a whole defines our sense of being human— thus by defining these constituent parts we can perhaps better define that which falls to the individual and that which falls to the group. Still it seems to me that religion is not in itself a threat to democracy but rather is an integral part of it, because humanity is that species that has god built into its constitution in a biological sense. I don’t mean that we are in fact a product of god but rather the archeological evidence suggests that we have participated in ritualized behavior long before the rise of civilization—especially in relation to sacrifice and in terms of cave paintings and various forms of sculptures. We are a species of many bizarre rituals and systems of belief that incorporate a supreme deity or deities into our cosmic map. At this particular moment in time we are obviously clinging to God in an exaggerated manner, which does strike me as a danger to not just democracy but to the well being of the world as a whole. Perhaps this aspect of religious fanaticism is what needs to be discussed in an open fashion.
Posted by:KirilovslogicJanuary 17, 2008 4:19:13 AMRespond ^
Answer to the question is YES. A lot of us Born agains weren't born REPUBLICANS we were born again with a BRAIN and a HEART
Posted by:Earl WeisJanuary 18, 2008 7:39:00 AMRespond ^
Just because the majority of people thought the world was flat at one time did not make it so. Just because the majority believes that gay marraige is wrong does not make it so, and the constitution says we all have a right to pursue happiness in our own way. As an athiest biologist, I am disturbed when faith based arguments are held up against scientifically sound arguments as if they were equal in weight. It is a fact that other animals (yes we are heterotrophic, eukaryotic, multicellular organisms like all the other animals on this planet) are also homosexual on occasion. This would support the hypothesis that this behavior can have its basis in genetics and not merely through environmental conditions and upbringing. Hence,to discriminate against homosexuals is equal to that against skin color or gender.This is based on observation and evidence ,not some bronze age text that some still feel compelled to believe in and force upon others. Might does not make right. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.
Posted by:danJanuary 18, 2008 12:43:06 PMRespond ^
Will the larger American concept of democracy be influenced by the forms of democracy that manifest in the religions of its leaders? There are many ways Mormon beliefs are enforced with violence, manipulation and aggression, and one of the scariest things for me was seeing how difficult it is for the majority of Mormons to separate the teachings and commandments of the church from the political realm. I don't know about baptists and christians, but it actually seems there is more democracy in these religions. Individual women and men can start their own ministries (if they can fundraise). Leaders at the top are elected (by heads of local churches, even if not members), and people competing for positions are sometimes put in the spotlight if they hold views of doctorine people differ with. This causes controversy and discussion, and allows for contest. In the Mormon church there is no contest. In fact, mormons would argue that allowing people to vote on doctorine sort of defeats the point (as doctorine comes from god, you can't just decide to adopt the truth most appealing to the masses). In the Mormon church you can't choose which ward you go to--you are assigned based upon where you live to a specific meeting house and time slot. You can't go to church with your friend becasue your bishop is particularly sexist, for example. Mormons sustain their leaders as a congregation, but this is more of a tolken practice. It's a way of showing support. Votes aren't counted before someone is apointed, and if lots of people dissagreed the response from leadership would be informal at best (maybe they would hold a meeting to see why you disagreed, or talk to you after sacrement meeting to ask why you voted not to sustain a leader, but they wouldn't remove him from his position). There are also many ways Mormon beliefs are enforced with violence, manipulation and aggression. I experienced this personally--it's not something a lot of Mormons would believe, even though it's something many of them do. It's hard because screaming at your kids, locking them in their room to study the sriptures, fighting with them and "loosing control" and hitting them--these things happen a lot. They aren't considered to be forms of manipulation and violence, but they are. Look at God's Army, for example. In this Mormon film a missionary wants to go home. His leader throws him into a wall and starts screaming at him. My parents said "he is a good leader, he loves the missionaries he serves," when they saw this scene. The boy later came to thank his leader for preventing him from making a mistake. I often felt physically unsafe due to outbursts of aggression that erupted when I simply offered opposing views on issues like gender, politics and the environment. My parents bishop (whom I had never met) exploded at me when I bumped into him at my parent’s wedding. I had taken my name of the lists of the Mormon church and he was angry. One of the scariest things for me was seeing how difficult it is for the majority of Mormons to separate the teachings and commandments of the church from the political realm. Even though Romney would surly promise to abide by the laws (Mormons are very good citizens), I worry about electing someone that comes from an institution that is undemocratic. The problem is that the Mormon church plays a huge part of your life--it's not like you just go to meetings on Sunday and then go back to our normal life. The Church influences every aspect of your thinking. Even if church leaders wouldn't directly inluence government decisions through Mit Romney, the ways of thinking put forth by the church are deep forms of socialization. They are very unique, and there are big consequenses for those who dissagree.
Posted by:Romney and DemocracyJanuary 18, 2008 3:22:54 PMRespond ^
Religion is a threat to the world
Posted by:pachoJanuary 19, 2008 7:30:23 AMRespond ^
We Need Firm Separation of Church and State. Huckabee and his evangelical radicals endanger our liberty. That we have a nation of faith is good. That we have a nation where many different faiths can coexist respectfully is wonderful. Religious liberty is fundamental in democracy. I respect the many different faiths represented by the different candidate but do resent the one candidate that has tried to push religion (not faith) into the mix. My favorite candidate is a Christian man of faith, but he is also adamant about freedom of religion and would never push his faith through a political position. In fact, to do so would be out of keeping with his doctrine, one of which is "let all men worship how, where and what they may." If you are still reading, I am going to list reasons why I support Mitt Romney: I do think he is the most electable candidate for the Republican party. 1. We need his economic expertise and experience creating and holding jobs. He has real world experience dealing in today's global marketplace. Without a strong economy, nothing else works. Romney is or best hope to grow our economy. Many people consider Romney an economic genius. 2. Romney has a history of asking the right questions, listening intently, evaluating carefully and decisively LEADING. He brings new vision, efficiency, and energy to every endeavor 3. Romney has impeccable integrity and high standards. He is absolutely trustworthy. 4. Romney stands firmly in support of our constitution. He supports states rights and individual rights. He is committed to the preservation of our freedoms. 5. Romney is strong on education. While his was governor, Massachusetts students ranked #l in the nation in education. He will encourage innovation in technology and research and development to find answers to the energy crisis. Romney is an exceedingly intelligent man and proven problem solver! 6. Romney is committed to a strong national defense. He will protect our borders and keep our nation safe. He is also an excellent negotiator. 7. Romney will work to ensure our laws are enforced, our borders are secure, and illegal immigration is controlled. 8. Romney is a self-made man who owes no one favors. He will bring fresh voices and new ideas to the table. Romney will bring dignity and respect to the office of President. 9. Romney is a committed family man. He supports socially conservative values and walks the walk in his personal life. 10. Romney has strong grass roots support all across the west. He is an excellent strategist and a winner.
Posted by:NFayeJanuary 20, 2008 3:00:56 PMRespond ^
"Just because the majority of people thought the world was flat at one time did not make it so. Just because the majority believes that gay marraige is wrong does not make it so, and the constitution says we all have a right to pursue happiness in our own way. As an athiest biologist, I am disturbed when faith based arguments are held up against scientifically sound arguments as if they were equal in weight. It is a fact that other animals (yes we are heterotrophic, eukaryotic, multicellular organisms like all the other animals on this planet) are also homosexual on occasion. This would support the hypothesis that this behavior can have its basis in genetics and not merely through environmental conditions and upbringing. Hence,to discriminate against homosexuals is equal to that against skin color or gender.This is based on observation and evidence ,not some bronze age text that some still feel compelled to believe in and force upon others. Might does not make right. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion." I am for gay rights, but not based on such a naturalistic fallacy. The comment I have just quoted is a classic example of the is-ought fallacy. Does the fact that certain species are cannibalistic justify human cannibalism? Like I said before, I'm for gay-rights, but not based how other species behave. This type of naturalistic reasoning undermines any law or ideal whatsoever.
Posted by:SethJanuary 21, 2008 9:22:01 PMRespond ^

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