Not in Their Back Yard
When the EPA discovered asbestos in their Little League fields, the residents of idyllic El Dorado Hills rushed to protect themselves—from reality.
The land in question is a high, rolling hillside, where California's Central Valley slopes into the Sierra foothills. Many have been drawn here, and after the first stampede, for gold in 1849, most left disappointed. Then the land lay virtually empty for many years until, as the state capital grew, its emptiness became valuable. In the late 1970s, as the local Chamber of Commerce tells it, a developer was traveling along U.S. Highway 50 when, 25 miles east of Sacramento, he looked up and had a vision.
Grand homes started to appear, followed by fine schools, lush golf courses, and a central shopping district modeled after a Tuscan village. The entire hillside was transformed into a patchwork of gated communities, and over the past 15 years, El Dorado Hills, as developers dubbed the spot, has been one of the fastest-growing areas in California. "High per capita income along with low crime rates have attracted many new families to this vibrant and desirable destination of the future," says the Chamber of Commerce's website. "As the name 'El Dorado' translates, this is a land of golden opportunity!"
Some residents of the bedroom community like to think of it as the next Silicon Valley, but the president of the Chamber of Commerce admits there are few jobs, and "the one thing very different about El Dorado Hills" is that no one has to be here. Almost no one leaves either, which is surprising when you consider that what lies beneath these hills isn't gold but something potentially deadly.
Housing developers and real estate agents don't like talking about the dark side of paradise (see "Take My Breath Away," page 70), so I had to rely on Terry Trent to give me an unofficial tour. Trent, a 50-ish retired construction consultant, no longer lives in El Dorado County but admits that his former home has become something of an obsession. "There are some really dangerous things in the ground," he said as we drove down the main street, El Dorado Hills Boulevard. Talking nonstop, Trent pointed to the hillside that forms the spine of the town, which, according to his map from the state's Division of Mines and Geology, contains a vast deposit of naturally occurring asbestos.
There are similar deposits all over California; serpentine, a primary source of asbestos, is the state rock. It's not dangerous—unless it becomes airborne dust and gets in your lungs. The trouble is, in El Dorado Hills, dust isn't just a fact of life but a sign of progress. "Here in the mountains, we don't let no rocks stand in our way," Trent said. Over the past 10 years, as the town's population has doubled to around 35,000, hundreds of bulldozers have scraped over this ground, clearing land for thousands of new homes. In that earth is a form of asbestos—amphibole—that's significantly more toxic than the type commonly used commercially.
Trent's map of the amphibole deposits was made 50 years ago. Still, most residents were unaware of the asbestos until 11 years ago, when Trent uncovered a huge, glistening vein of it in his yard. He went to the local papers with the news, and there was a brief outcry. But the construction went on, and most of El Dorado Hills has been built in the years since.
Turning onto Harvard Way, Trent stopped before a grassy embankment that he claims is shot through with asbestos. "You can see how they carved through it to build this road," he said. He recalled watching as construction crews gouged out a spot for a new middle school nearby, crushing the excavated rock and transporting the gravel to become the foundation for the new community center. A half-mile stretch of Harvard Way was covered in dust, he said, for months.
Nine years ago, tests commissioned by the Sacramento Bee found high concentrations of amphibole fibers inside Trent's home. He moved soon afterward. To this day, he still can't understand why few of his former neighbors seem concerned about the threat beneath them, or why the town is still fully occupied, its homes still worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. "I don't like to be mean," he said, "but I'm a little cranky with these people. It's like they're in shock. They don't want this stuff to exist; therefore, they put their heads in the sand. They say, 'Well, it's not here, and it's not bad, and here, I'll prove that it's not here and it's not bad.'"
In the fall of 2004, agents from the Environmental Protection Agency descended on El Dorado Hills in respirators and protective suits and headed for a town park. There, they began playing as children would—tossing baseballs, kicking soccer balls, biking, and running. All the while, they took air samples, and all the while they were quietly watched by the citizens of El Dorado Hills.
The civic leaders of El Dorado Hills had spent many months trying to stave off these tests, scrambling to protect the community not from potentially toxic substances, but from the epa's potentially toxic information. Taking the lead was Vicki Barber, the superintendent of schools. A stout woman with compressed lips and an unwavering gaze, she recently won an award for being "a person who does not accept the word 'no'...when it comes to what is good for students." After asbestos was found during the construction of a high school soccer field in 2002, Barber questioned a costly epa-mandated cleanup. When a citizen formally asked the epa to test the town's public areas for asbestos in 2003, Barber quickly emerged as the agency's most determined local foe. Before the study was even under way, she began writing to the epa as well as to senators and congressmen, questioning whether the agency had the "legal and scientific authority" to conduct what she called a "science experiment" with "limited benefit to the residents." At least four state legislators and one congressman responded by putting pressure on the epa, which in turn agreed not to declare El Dorado Hills a Superfund site, regardless of what it might find there.
In May 2005, the epa announced its findings: Almost every one of more than 400 air samples collected at the park, as well as along a hiking trail and in three school yards, contained asbestos fibers. Most of the samples contained amphibole fibers known as tremolite—long, thin strands that, when inhaled, tend to wedge in the lungs for much longer and at higher concentrations than other forms of asbestos, even at very low exposure levels.
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We are told it is harmless, just dust. There is no such thing as dust, that junk would best be described as earthen mineral fragments. Inhaled mineral illnesses start with a cough, an irritant, and they progress toward a reduced quality of life and expensive, preventable, medical treatment.
New drugs, inhalers, nebulizers, and erectile dysfunction (ED), mask the problem. They fail to recognize the source of the exposures that result in illness, lack of oxygen.
Eating five fruits and vegetables will not prevent cancer. Stop inhaling mineral carcinogens and you may never visit the oncologist.
Well, I hope we get universal health care before it's too late for these poor folks. When, I wonder, did they know there was asbestos in the ground? Before construction began on this "little piece of heaven, or after. What do these people do when their biggest investment is in their home. YOYO America. It's YOYO everything today, from health care to safe food. YOYO (You're on you're own".)
I want to thank Terry Trent for all he has done to get this deadly killer out to all who will/need to listen.ALL people better learn for themselves as Govt can not be trusted to tell the truth and protect people from something that we all know kills you.In 1999, Libby Mt found out why we are sick and dying from not being told the truth.This deadly exposure should of ended in 1999, but it did not and the same murderers who allowed this to happen are selling Libby as a safe place to live and raise a family which is a deadly lie.Please stay away from Libby Mt. Libby is not safe for ANYTHING that breathes.EPA,stated Libby is safe and everyone,but a few, believe this.So many sheeple and not enough people until it is you getting hooked up to a oxegynhose for the rest of your sick and suffering life.Three generations of my entire family tree learned in 1999 why we are sick and dying.My children were born and raised in Libby and I am dying from not being told the truth too.Someone please stop this continued holocaust of Libby Montana.Terry Trent,Bless you and thank you.OUR fight continues.
we have a similar situation here in
bay shore, ny web site bayshoremgp.com with a toxic plume. we have autism off the charts and the powers that be want to keep it all quite because of real estae values-- not childrens health. we have many cancer clusters and no one will do a thing. this is all public knowledge and the parents care more about real estate than their childrens health and death!! the end of living the beginning of survival! situation hopeless.we have lost out moral ozone!!
Libby is too a safe place i live there i should know you all need to calm down
share the testimony of David Newman with all who are being lied to and them go find a lawyer and sue the hell out of them lying murderous bastards.Stay away from Libby Mt.
Stephen my man,ignorance is a human reaction when the truth and responsibilities are ignored.It also means get your head out of your rectum, all of you.Walking into Libby is like walking into the gas chambers of the Jews.In this case my friend,some one forgot(not really) to turn off the gas.And since 1999 this holocaust has continued on hundreds of innocent people/families who have been told Libby is a safe place to live and raise a family.Again, if you sheeple don't believe me, you better listen to David Newman testimony then you can live in Libby all you want but leave your children unless you truely are that ignorant.Next!!!!
To educate all you sheeple out their, those of you who can read and are not blind with a brain.Read A Town Left to Die from A Air that Kills.Watch. Dust to Dust and the story of Libby Mt.If that don't shed light on the truth, then you move to Libby,without your kids,and breathe deeply while you are there and you just might get to be buried their.Which is not a bad place to be, as long as you are dead,dead...Not walking dead...
hey mother [deleted] your ass dosent know wtf your talking about so shut your god damn mouth im 13 and ive studdyed this since i was 9 i should know wtf i'm talking about this is nothing like the holocaust
Story from Mother Jones "Not in Their Back Yard"
The "asbestos" which in reality is Tremolite, the most deadly form of "asbestos", one of only 2 asbestos types and 1 other mineral fiber known to be powerful enough to cause environmental epidemics in the absence of industry. was found on the school grounds in El Dorado County in 1997!! Not by EPA in 2005! EPA was notified of this find of course in 1997, but they did nothing at all, Which is what they did in Libby Montana for decades after science article after science article was published detailing the deaths. Libby even held public meetings in the mid 1980s, to alert the population as to what was occurring and EPA still did not respond. After the asbestos was found on the school grounds, the County of El Dorado Public Health Officer took two steps to cover it up so nobody would ever know. The first step was to replace the air intakes for the school, which were located directly in front of piles of asbestos. The second step was to spend 3 million dollars to attempt to hide the asbestos exposures that had occurred there for over 25 years, from EPA, by covering up the various asbestos piles and cleaning out the school rooms. They were trying to not be embarrassed when EPA came to town. Of course El Dorado officials had no idea what they were doing, so their clean up was found to be inadequate by EPA who spent another 2 million to clean the school. Irony of ironies, directly after this clean up, and EPA wasn't looking anymore, the school purchased gravel made up of white serpentine rock, composed of some 30% Chrysotile asbestos and approximately 7% Tremolite, and placed it for a road directly on top of the original "asbestos" find!! With no pavement over it. It remains open to the school children to this date.
Based upon this exemplary behavior by El Dorado County officials, EPA decided to leave the whole asbestos question to their devices!! As if anyone in El Dorado County Government would ever tell anyone the truth regarding "asbestos" exposures!! Heck no they won't. They get elected to office by the money from people who develop the land. So do the officials EPA made a deal with to not super fund anything in El Dorado County. Meanwhile the largest known pure Tremolite deposits in the United States can be easily found at the surface on many people's properties, exposures occur every single day and they are moving thousands of more people onto these deposits as we speak.
Not to be outdone, I have found the same situation in Amador County where the death toll already exceeds El Dorado County, by a lot...but El Dorado is catching up quickly. Other found the same situation with Tremolite only, in other counties. Of course California has 50 counties with serpentine (Chrysotile) asbestos present, not one death ever found associated anywhere with these Chrysotile deposits. But in the very few places in California where there are Tremolite deposits, the death toll simply jumps out of the records at a person. Dr. Marc Schenker at UC Davis has the goods on this. All of these deaths in El Dorado and Amador, from exposures 30 to 40 years ago, way before the main source of Tremolite was opened up in 1996!!
Basically a person has no protection at all from asbestos poisoning in the United States. EPA officials allow exposures 1,000 times greater than is required to cause fatal disease, as a matter of course. (See Feds will check on Bayview asbestos San Francisco Chronicle August 3, 2007) .A person is actually in more danger from EPA than they are from Corporations who use "asbestos"!! Most exposures in the United States go completely unregulated so are substantially higher than the un protective levels adopted by EPA as a benchmark for safety!! What a complete and horrendous joke, perpetrated by Keystone Kops upon the innocent American Public. (See also "A dangerous lie" Missoula Independent July 27, 2007).
Please also see Randall Patterson's comment regarding the book "Enemy of the People" at front of the hard copy of this issue of Mother Jones. "It's as if El Dorado County Officials were taking their lines directly out of Ibsen's Enemy of the People"...which of course they are..without knowing that they are because they are too stupid to read a book or understand it if they did.
to mike crill
i've lived in libby montana all my life and you know what i've found out ... that everyone cares about each other and that the epa are doing there best to fix this problem and that it was the citizens faults for putting it in their gardens so you can shut the F*** up about the holocaust
I find both the comments of Stephen and Mike Crill rather interesting but the story speaks for itself. No one knows how dangerous Asbestos really is, and due to it taking so long to manifest itself people dont seem to realize how deadly it really is. I grew up in Libby Montana and was unwillingly exposed to Asbestos every day and any one who still lives there and for that matter in many places in the United States is exposed to it. Hell it was in my attic in my house in St Louis, and before 1999 I sucked up buckets and buckets of it from there with my handy dandy shop vac. No mask no hepa filter. The people need to wake up, just because you are not dying of it now does not mean that down the road 10, 20 or 30 years it will not kill you.
Thank you for keeping this issue alive.
This is to you Stephen as I can tell you must still be a pup(Green) and haven't found your way to reality as yes we do know what asbestos is,does and where it came from.Look up holocaust Stevy and then mass murder.Now tell yourself again and again, over and over that Libby is not safe to anything that breathes.And then introduce yourself to those 200 plus soles who have moved to Libby being told Libby is safe.And you think Libby cares about the people,you and I and those they are knowingly exposing to Tremolite asbstos, you got to be new.Anyway, I'm too old to be baby setting block heads like you who think Libby is fine and dandy.When it is you Stevy hooked up to oxegyn and your life only exists to the end of that hose and when you are told that your entire family are going to die,maybe,just maybe you will have the time to be as mad as I am towards all those in Libby who knowingly killed you and I and generations of your family.Holocaust,mass murder,cleansing you can call this anything you want because the truth is,this is and continues to be a holocaust as long as folks are moving to Libby from lies, when they will suffer and die.That be you Stevy.Now you go get a life...
Well, I just thought I would throw in after reading the last two comments. The "asbestos" issue is, well subtle and complex. I believe what Mike is attempting to say is that there are those out there who want to sell their product more than they care for human life. That is obvious to all isn't it? That is what WR GRace did with vermiculite, with EPA's help. That is what El Dorado County is doing with land, again with EPA's help. Selling land that has no value whatsoever, that will and has killed people. Selling to anyone who doesn't know what to look for. Just ask George Lucas of Star Wars fame, who ran away from El Dorado as fast as he could, because he found out. Ask the dozens of government employees who also ran away, quietly, in the night, without telling anyone why.
I am sorry, but once one hears the story of what began ocurring from 1960 on..(ask Clinton Maynard in Libby because he knows the whole story)..then one can not say with a straight face that EPA is doing the best that they can. They are liars.. and Libby has paid the price for their lies. So will El Dorado.
Oh yeah, and importantly..there are over 100 towns in California built on top of Chrysotile "asbestos". One County has 100% surface Chrysotile soils on top of the largest Chrysotile deposit on earth. San Francisco itself is built on top of surface Chrysotile deposits. The drinking water is saturated with Chrysotile. The largest human exposures to "asbestos" on earth occur in these places. One thousand plus times higher than Libby exposures. No deaths ever recorded even though people have lived there for over 150 years.
El Dorado? Well El Dorado has a few really small measly 10% to 15% content Tremolite deposits. People have already begun dying like flies. Just like Libby. When EPA rells you "everyone has been exposed to "asbestos"" they are not precisely lying, they are misleading. Nearly everyone has indeed been exposed to Chrysotile. Almost nobody has been exposed to Tremolite. Among those who are exposed to Tremolite, many of them die from it. EPA lies by talking about all fibers as if they are equals. They are not!!!
Terry
And the latest bull [deleted] is now the U of M here in Missoula are studing to find out if Libby's asbestos is Tremolite and if it is even a asbestos fiber because it,Tremolite from Libby does not fall into their catigory of asbestos fibers.Some times I get sooooo angry at these ignorant bastards who have milked this Tremolite asbestos fiber from Libby that is today killing millions and costing millions for something that is already known beyond belief.This is criminal to be truthful because in the seven plus years that this govt and all the players involved who are apart of this coverup that is knowingly killing innocent human beings and who are and have been and continue to down play this deadly fiber to the health and safety of the people,all people,you and all your family.No one gets left out from this deadly fiber when you inhale,swallow it.If you ask why it has taken over seven years and over $180 million dollars and now the U of M gets a 5 million dollar grant to find out what this deadly fiber is and where it belongs.It belongs out of the lungs and body's of human beings and yet since 1999 over 200 innocent healthy people/families have move to Libby being told/lied to that Libby is a safe place to live and raise a family. This is a deadly lie so why in the hell has THIS not been THE ISSUE of concern,to stop this known continued deadly exposure on more human beings.I/we do not give a [deleted] what you ignorant people do to continue to ignor the issues that it is you too who have failed to inform, warn and protect the public from something that you and I know kills you.Remember the EPA finances all of you who choose to follow them by making your priority,their priority and that IS NOT the healthy and safety of the people but number 1 priority is How can we/EPA,etc DOWNPLAY the EXPOSURE and then HOW MUCH MONEY CAN BE MADE.I believe the U of M also falls into this web of lies and disception,along with alot of others who are making millions and have not saved one human being.Damn it, this is a holocaust no mattter how you all look at this.Stay away from Libby and educate yourselves to the truth,for your sake and for the sake of those we all leave behind,our kids and theirs.The rest of you can kiss my ass.
This is scary information and I've always thought it was concerning, but you don't provide a phone number or web site for those who would like to have their homes tested...do you recommend that we all go to our doctors for tests as well?
To Pam.IF your home has Libby's vermiculite asbestos insulation which 35 Million homes do in America or if you live in any of the 240 prosessing towns where Libby's deadly asbestos went,the wisest thing to do is get checked out now, specially if you have children.Have your home tested and you and your children.Then if Libby's asbestos is found,send the bill to WR Grace and then find a lawyer to sue those responsible for not telling you the truth,which many guilty have known for years,like in Libby.Don't wait till you are to sick to live a normal life because those exposed to this deadly asbestos fiber from Libby, their fate is already guarenteed to slowly sufficate to death which their is no cure,none, except death.I know.This is for the children Pam,it is those we leave behind that matter and need to protect.This is also why I tell EVERYONE to stay away from Libby Montana and then to not trust anyone in Govt to tell you the truth.They too are as guilty for knowingly exposing millions of people who will/are dying today.Good luck Pam and spread the word to others is the best we can do,educate eachother.Take Care
Today I'm told,I have asbestosis in both my lungs and that I am being sent home to die because there is no cure and asbestosis is my guarantee to death...
Today I am scared to what has become of me. I no longer can run nor walk very far. Life's getting harder everyday...
Today I'm saddened by those who love me as they try to hide the truth and their pain,knowing I shall soon die and that they will witness my every moments,until I die...
Today I feel so lost because my life depends on a tube that pumps oxygen into my lungs, to keep me alive. Knowing beyond the end of that hose lies, the end of my life...
Today I am mad because I can't feed myself and someone has to bath me,dress me and change my soiled pants. It's times like this I wish I were dead...
Today I'm in the hospital. I've become too much for my loved ones to endure and I am crying inside because I know when I leave here, I'll be in heaven...
Today is the worst, no feelings in my hands and feet, both are turning blue and non-stop morphine is all that's left, to ease my pain...
Today I tried my hardest for my last breathe, for my last look of the faces that I've loved so much and to feel the last touch of a hand in mine,as the last words I heard and the last words I spoke,I Love You...
Today I'm in heaven. No pain for ever more. It's really beautiful here.And I shall await for you all to join me in eternal life and love...God Bless and Amen...
My father in Law was diagnosed in 1999 with asbestosis in both his lungs.And he suffered for many years prior,up to his last breathe on January 30,2002.
The above is a summery of his last years and this is how I would describe those years of having to watch my,Dad and many others,die such a horrible and painful death, as asbestosis.We watched him suffocate to death...
In 1999, I too was told,I have asbestos in both my lungs.I too worked at the mine and lived in Libby most of my life...
Today I'm scared to what has become of me.I no longer can run nor walk very far.Life's getting harder everyday...
This is written in honor and memory of our beloved father, friend and human being, who left us to be in peace.Amen
Donald M Kaeding 10-16-22/1-30-02.
Man I got to be honest with you.... you sound like the man who is very bitter about Libby. At some point (Im thinking childhood), Libby was not to good to you. Your acting like the kid who got beat up on the school yard all the time and now have a soap box to preach from. I'v been to Libby - great little town in a stunning location in Montana. Talking with the people at the Libby Cafe and Beck's they all just want to get this all behind them. After reviewing your past bio's - you have not been a happy man anywhere you go (Sandpoint, Id.).
Mr terryj,You walk in my shoes and you would be mad too.Libby WAS a beautiful place,it still is on the outside but it is what is inside of Libby the carries a fire to my madness that is hard to shake.Plus I enjoy being mad at the folks who knowingly killed me and most of my family not to mention a town and it's people.Sure folks in Libby will tell you all is ok but that is a deadly lie.In the 40 plus years I have lived in Libby, Libby is the most corrupt town I've ever been in.What is good about Libby?The senery and the citizens but if you have any deadlings with the powers to be in Libby,they are about money,lies,corruption and knowingly allowing innocent people into a town that is/will kill them from the lies they are telling people to get them to move to Libby.Yah I'm pissed,have been and continue to be as long as Libby continues to knowingly kill human beings.Maybe you should move to Libby too.Bring the family and pets and have a happy,healthy life,until you are diagnosed with asbestos and have to live like I and the rest of us,dying on forced oxegyn and disabled.Libby has killed alot of people.Entire families wiped out and you think this issue is not a issue.You walk in my shoes.None of us asked for what was done to us and getting away with murder is something I don't take lightly.So what if I'm pissed...And I keep on writing and telling all to stay away from Libby as Libby is not a safe place....
Mike - Im all ready there. I'm building my new home up at the golf course and it should be finished by the middle of this year. After 35 years as a California teacher and watching what has happened to the school systems across this country i have had it. Libby is a great place and will continue to deal with the crisis it has found itself in. Everywhere I look there is a new feeling that the worse is behind Libby and its future is looking bright. Mike -there is an old adage - if your not part of the solution - your part of the problem. Its real easy to fire off letters to the newspaper and comment on web boards on your "perception" of how you believe the people of Libby are being "treated" from outside the Libby bubble in Missoula, (still in Missoula - Mike?), but around town your just the last in short line of disgruntled individuals who continue to stand on any soap box and continue to offer their view of the problem with no real solutions. In your response you say " - but it is what is inside of Libby the carries a fire to my madness that is hard to shake." Your right - and like all burning madness it will consume you.
Hey - Im too moving to Libby this summer ("08). I just bought my land down on the river and will be building my new home in the spring. After looking at Sandpoint and Whitfish we, (my wife and I),settled on Libby. Stunning location. I know about the asbestos , but its all getting cleaned up. The mine has been closed for the past 18 years - no new contamination has happened since.
I am telling you that Libby is not a safe place to live but rather you care or not,go ahead and move their.But I promise you that someday you will wish you have listen to me when you are wondering why you can't breathe nor walk very far.First you must educate yourself about Tremolite asbestos to see that this deadly asbestos kills you.Why would anyone want to put themselves and their family in a environment that kills you?The mine sight has not been cleaned and when they do clean the mine site,with 530 million Tremolite asbestos fibers in one gram of bark and this fiber traveling up to 20 miles once airborne and being there is NO safe limit/amount to exposure which one or two of these deadly fibers can/will kill you.The test samples taken at the Plummer school which is a pre-school were falsified and never made public so them children are in danger.It is a fact that children living in a asbestos contaminated environment(LIBBY) are more at risk of mesotheeleoma and need to be made a priority to protect but no one is protecting the children.If that was your child,what would you do?In 2005, EPA stated 16000 sample were taken and nothing found.NOTHING FOUND IN LIBBY MONTANA!!Get real.In 2007 we learned that EPA KNOWINGLY used the wrong scopes to test.Why would they do that?You can choose to be ignorant about all of this which will cost you your life and others who breathe this deadly asbestos fiber.And you sure can listen to what you are being told that Libby is safer and cleaner but Libby is neither clean nor safe today.And you can think I am a crazy person,in some ways I have to be to maintain my sanity as I deal with the way I am dying and knowing the rest of my family will follow in my deadly footsteps,being born and raised in Libby.I don't wish this on no one except those who ignor my warnings and listening to the lies they are being told.I just can't understand why anyone knowingly would move/live in Libby.You would be better off to put a gun to your head because moving to Libby ain't much different when you will breathe/swallow enough Tremolite asbestos fibers to kill you.What part of deadly exposure don't you understand?Anyway,you all have a good exposed life in Libby and when you get like me,and you will,remember me will ya and see who the fool is.The price of living in Libby is a death sentence as if enough folks haven't died already. A few more sure wouldn't matter.Breathe in breathe out...
Mr.Libby Mike,you think you are a expert on Libby and the holocaust that exists their but really you don't know crap.Sure as hell ain't got a clue as to what you are moving into unless you are that ignorant.You all may have gotten a hell of a deal on buying Libby but would you buy it if you knew the land would kill you and your entire family?You people just blow me away with your ignorance to this deadly exposure and what was done to Libby by the very people who tell you Libby is safe.Do you realize most of those lieing bastards STILL sleep with WR Grace and don't give a crap about you as long as you are ignorant and buy Libby!And the contaminated Golf Course remains deadly as long as the exposure exists.This new generation of healthy folks moving to Libby will follow in our footsteps of exposure, suffering and death as the rest of us.The killings have not stopped.I am trying to stop this continued deadly exposure because someone should of told my family the truth in 1966 instead we learned the truth in 1999 because THEY could not lie about people dying and hooked up to oxegyn as the latency period became reality.Oh this is so crazy trying to tell you the truth.You will find out the truth,when it is too late.Oh well.Stay away from Libby...
Mike - Having only been through the town a few times it looks like they have, with the help of the EPA, successfully addressed the concerns and are moving forward with cleaning it up. I live part time in Whitefish and travel between Spokane and Whitefish on my way home. I dont see the Libby you describe. It seems to be made up of older people - mostly retirees who seem to be happy. I have to agree with Libbymike - having a new home on the river would be great. This area of Montana will be the next big thing.... most of the land is National Forest land. I bet the undeveloped properties are in high demand around Libby. I will check out some land listings on the internet and see. It could be a great investment for the future......
In one of your responses you write at the end - "Breathe in breathe out..." - you did not finish mike so I will for you - Mike -Breathe in - breathe out..... move on.
I guess you all will have to find out for yourself and when you are dieing from asbestos exposure,from being lied to,if you don't care neither do I.Yet I have made a difference by warning folks about the truth, about how not safe Libby is. It is just a shame their are a few of you who choose to ignor the warning, for which you will pay one hell of a price,with your life.And I shall move on after I am dead for which my name and concerns will continue to be heard long after I am gone to those who will wonder why they are sick and dying in Libby Montana.You people haven't a clue but you will,when it is too late.I have saved hundreds if not thousands of people from Libby's deadly exposure.Of course a few will fall through the cracks and that is ok as long as it is you and not someone else.Breathe in, breathe out,inhaling Tremolite asbestos is what this is all about.Now you move on,to Libby.Fools....
From The Western News-
Residential construction boomed in Libby in 2007, according to figures released last week by Mayor Tony Berget during his annual State of the City address at a luncheon hosted by the Libby Area Chamber of Commerce.
There were 55 building permits issued in the city in 2007, up from 47 in 2006. Of those, 38 were residential with a construction value of over $1.86 million. That compares to 21 residential permits in 2006 with a construction value of $449,000. Last year’s construction included 12 new homes and one duplex, up from two new homes in 2006. “It tells you that people are buying into our future and really believe that Libby has a future,” Berget said.
...and this was just the city - I dont have the numbers for the outlining area , but I would guess it would be the same if not more. I don't see a city wallowing in pity - this is a city who is addressing the problem and moving progressively forward. Bravo Libby!
Bethm,it is what you Don't see that is the issue and concern.Tremolite asbestos.Instead of concerns for the health and safety of the people in Libby,you bet the Mayor,Realitors,County Commish,Cosino's,etc.,etc., and of course those who still work for WR Grace, are the ones selling Libby to you, as safe.Hell, the mayor owns a print shop and $17,000 was spent/made printing peices of paper that got sent all over the US, selling Libby as a safe place to live and raise a family.Not one word about asbestos or what was done to Libby and it's people.The dead and dying,the sick and suffering.Why?If you people would read the testimony of David Newman in front of NTCOSH on June 20 2007 you will see that the priority IS NOT the health and safety of the people(YOU) BUT how can WE downplay the exposure,which THEY have done by telling you Libby is safe and then How much money Can be made,which $150 million plus have gone through the hands of those selling Libby to you.They are not about to bite the hand that feeds them even if they have to lie and put you into a deadly environment that they know, knowingly, will kill you and your entire family.Also remember that THEY also are responsible for what was done to us because they allowed this to happen too.Knowingly.Nothing has change since I moved to Libby in 1966,lies,corruption,and a Town also guilty of murder that continues today.Why are you people so blind to the truth.It is one thing to not know the truth yet another thing when lies are told instead of the truth.I am telling you the truth,so maybe you will not find out the hard way,like the rest of us.I am trying to save you,educate you and tell the truth.It is up to you to make the right choices,specially when children are involved.They need to sell Libby to everyone over 60 because they will die from old age mostly but the children ARE the ones I care about.Someone has to speak for them and I do.Stay away from Libby. Your welcome...
Hey man - you did the best you could. Reading through the past replies on this thread it looks like very few people are taking your warnings very seriously. At the end of the day its the free will of the people that determines their destiny. I have never been to Libby, but I'm planning a trip this summer to Glacier Nat Park. It looks real close on the map. Maybe one of the reasons so many people feel its a beautiful place to live. I did not see many people supporting your view of Libby - most were positive and complimentary of the town. I think the asbestos problem is not just a Libby problem, but a US problem needing a fix for all of the buildings that have it in them. Good luck mike- keep telling your story - let the people make up their own minds.
Mr.Peterquarm,thanks for your understanding.A saying I like, to help me with all the negitivity I get is "You may kill the messenger but you will never kill the message".And each day I spread the word and if one soul hears what I am saying,one human being will not suffer and die as I and millions of other human beings who are now waking up to the truth as to why they are sick and dying,from Tremolite asbestos and NOT being told the truth.I have been at this for a long time now,telling the truth to save people.THEY continue to lie,to those who will/have listened to THEM.You think I care about Libby?Get real.Libby could care less about me AND YOU.It is the people moving their and the children who can't speak for themselves, hoping the parent will listen.Some say I am comsumed with this madness and I say ya,I'm full of this madness,called Tremolite asbestos.So why wouldn't I care about those we/I leave behind.Some one has to care,I do and I am making a difference,till I die.Today I would like to honor a Gladiater of Libby who passed away a year ago today,Les Skramsted. a voice for the people who also told the truth yet shunned by Libby,the same ones who are selling Libby as safe to you.God Bless Les and family and his message will never die either.Libby is not safe.Thank you..
Terry J and Linda in Whitefish - The single largest non war time slow motion, oozing disaster in United States history, has always looked a pleasant place to live. It always will. Just like Witenoon Australia, Karain Turkey, Metsovo Greece, New Caledonia neighborhoods etc etc etc ad infinitum. Where death rates among those who "build on golf courses" and "move on" in life, raise to as high as 50%+ of the population. I suppose if you could actually see it...perhaps you might throw a hand out for a drowning man or family as the case may be...You are not monsters I suspect. But since it can not be seen, and the deaths are mostly hidden from "people who do not research", then, well, then silly things like "move on" or "it's being cleaned up" are said.
The people of Libby will continue to contract mesothelioma for the greater part of the next 100 years. In fairly large numbers. There is nothing that can be done about that. It has already happened. They will die wihtout comfort without compensation and with some community disdain towards them for being reminders of what government did in that town. Some of the new people who are moving to Libby and their family members will contract mesothelioma long after us 30 to 60 years olds are gone. There is something that can be done about that...but don't kid yourself for a moment..all that must be done, is not being done. Mostly because government has an uncanny ability to make people believe in ways that allow them NOT to throw a hand out for drowning people.
In the case of amphibole asbestos poisoning....all can look pretty beautiful, calm, peaceful and quiet. In fact it always does look that way. Right up until people start disappearing, at which point there are no brakes to be put on. And it always occurs among small localized populations, sadly almost always in beautiful natural settings.
Best regards,
Terry
Terry J and Linda .Thanks for your letter and that truely is the way it is and was, when I first moved to Libby from Orriville/Wooster Ohio at age 12,in 66.It was known then what we were moving into.We were all told in 1999,when the truth became obvious,air tanks,wheel chairs,people dropping off like flies etc.Each time I go to Libby,I cross the bridge across the river on 37,coming into Libby and many,many times I have pulled over at ahhh of the beauty,the mountains that surround you and this small little town nestled in the middle of all these trees,the land of the deer,elk,bull trout,grouse,camping,hiking yah what a paridise and it sure was.I had the best years of my life growing up in Libby.The people,most of them are down to earth,don't bother no body and wants nobody to bother them.We lived to grow up together as neighbors and family and watch our children play with their children and you know something,Libby was for most of my life pretty damn good.But when you are told of something,like you said,you can't see,it is easy to be blind to the truth(asbestos fibers)reguardless of all those around you dropping off like flies,on oxegyn,etc.I truely haven't figured it out as it has been 9 years now that I have been telling folks the truth that Libby is not a safe place,as you know now, which is bout all one can do is spread the word and folks can decide for them selves what to do but to lie and say something is safe and know that it is not,and people die well,I thought we were human beings but what was done to all of us,millions of us,isn't this crazy???It is crazy for me because innocent people like me will suffer and die like me and I fully believe this will end when people are told the truth and this [deleted]ed up Govt starts putting human life before money and greed.Oh well,I won't be around to see it but you know something that is sooo wonderful that will last for who knows and millions in time will be saved by the truth I have told about Libby Montana because some one, damn it, should of told or/and stopped my family from moving to Libby where in 1999, we were all told the truth as to why we are sick and dying.9 plus years now and so crazy this is even a issue.No excuse after 1999.It is what you can't see, that kills you, in Libby.The pain and suffering is not worth the picture I see each time I visit Libby.Still pretty thou.Am I wrong for caring and telling folks from what was done to me and thousands and a town,knowingly???? Stay away from Libby Mt as Libby is not a safe place to live and raise a family.Your welcome and thank you TJL...Man do I rattle huh? haha..
Terry Trent,is that you who wrote to Terry J?I thought maybe it were them.seeing the light and truth as to what they are moving into.Course with the now $250 Million bank roll,to clean Libby right,yah for sure,or corupt the money as the last 150 plus million for nothing.All them homes done will have to be redone.Nine years of what? Over and over, test after test and the wheels on this bus continue to go round and round and round.We shall see what happens now to Libby.Right or wrong,clean or unclean,safe or unsafe,people must stay away from Libby as Libby is not safe to anything that breathes.One thing for certain, most of the crooks will die from exposure and that is fine with me.Goes around comes around.
Mike - I could not agree with you more. I have been in Libby for the past 22 years since I retired and I can see the change. Gone are most of the EPA clean up people and in there place are speculators and developers who want to add more homes and business to Libby. Gone are the days of when you just drive by Libby on your way to Troy or Whitefish. In a few years we will look a lot like Sandpoint or Whitefish. Keep telling it like it is mike - keep the developers and speculators away from Libby. Continue to use the asbestos issue - someone will listen.
Libby Bill.Tanks for the booster for understanding Mike Crill.Their are alot of Mike Crills,will be long after this Mike Crill is gone.And no mater what ever happens in this world from day to day, moment by monent,we as a people, we as a human race , we as people who have been knowingly poisoned by WR Grace and Govt,us,our children and theirs.The only thing that left is to teach those we leave behind to teach those they leave behind that this has to be done to save your lives and those you leave behind,our children.My kids were born and raise in Libby,just as all the other kids and parents.There is a new web titled EaglesVoices.Excellent for all of us to learn,educate and tell your story for tomarrow and generations to come.Libby is a test lab for the world and country and everyday,somethin goin on.They are watching very closely and will follow in our foot steps and we/you shall/need to teach the truth and save who you can,as best as one can,one by one,day by day.Take care libbybill and tanks...
Mike - your a Tool. Please go back and re read what "libbybill1" said. He is upset about all of the development that is going on in Libby - not the asbestos circus. His goal is to return Libby to the way it was when he moved there. I have never been to Libby , but I got to believe that the town still exist even with this crisis. All I could find on the .net was how the town is getting clean with the help of the fed. and W C Grace Bankruptcy money. From what I can tell this is a model clean up by the federal government , unlike the Katrena disaster - and to that end development is occurring and the city is in recovery. I think you may need to be a little more optimistic in your option of your town. Take a walk downtown and see what good is going on - try to get your cup half full.
bob2beme,I understand what bill 1 said,yes he see's what is allowed to be done before anyone will tell any one Libby is/is not safe.Now you all can listen to EPA/Libby or you can choose to listen to me,a expert in asbestos dying from Libby by WR Grace.And you all can be ignorent to Liiby being cleaned,Libby being safer,Mine being shut down for 18 years now and when you look around,all seems fine,new homes being built all over town.People movin in from all over the country.What they all see is so beautiful,how can such a place be so bad.$250 million,jobs galore for years.All the things that are going on today in Libby today is the future,so we can forget the past and move on.The deadly exposure is not a problem no more.It is being called nousence dust again,harmless.You can eat it if you want.Some people do.My point is this.And so life in Libby Montana goes on,life is great,mountains are breath takeing,the sky's always blue and big and the people are just wonderful.In 1966,this is the same,beginning for all of my family, when we moved to Libby from Ohio.And for 30 plus years,Libby and life was grand,the people were grand,hunting,fishing,hiking.oh what a life.Then one day you are all gathers around and the whole town is their to hear the news.This is the same news that I and three generations and a entire town were told some 30 years age.Now, do you want to save a town and make lots of money or do you lie and you all have to leave.Please check out EaglesVoice,click on Community Forums and then click,EPA,LATAG and read educate and truth.This will tell you ONE Tremolite asbestos fiber in your lung LEADS to cancer.Also fetus exposure to asbestos from the mothers exposure.Don't tell me that this deadly asbestos fiber from Libby and still in Libby is not a human issue.Only because you haven't been told the truth yet.But I promise, you will.Stay away from Libby. Libby is not a safe place to anything that breathes,today and for ever if not cleaned up right.FOREVER...
Oh ya Bob 2beme.I use to walk down town with my cup have full because the other half was nothing but asbestos fibers.Remember,we were told,you can eat it.No one said YOU WILL DIE if you do.NOW you are being told.I suggest you all cover your cup and do not inhale,when walking down town in Libby Mt.Breathe in,Breathe out.
Jade!!! Tremolite!!!!! First I heard of that one.I'll investigated.Thanks...
Did you know Kotexes and crayons have asbestos.Cigerettefilters also.Baby powder contains talc/asbestos.never ending.testerday we didn't know.Today we know and we are trying to save those we leave behind.Our children cuz we done poisoned most of my generation.
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