In The Blogs

Owning the Debate

OWNING THE DEBATE....Ezra Klein on the Paulson rescue package:

One point Paul Krugman makes here is that the terms of the bailout were sharply constrained by the political strategy chosen by the Democrats. When Pelosi and Reid decided that this bill would not go through without Republican votes because Democrats would not be demagogued for cleaning up the mess caused by deregulation, they took more sharply liberal options like nationalization off the table.

That's true, but I think I'd make a different political point. Henry Paulson unveiled his plan on Friday the 19th, and that was when the frame of the debate was set. And that frame was: purchase of troubled assets. At that point, virtually no one had so much as mentioned large scale nationalizations as a potential solution to the banking crisis. It just wasn't on the public radar screen.

Now, maybe that wouldn't have mattered. Maybe our current political coalition wouldn't have been willing to consider it regardless. But virtually everyone agreed that action needed to be taken quickly to prop up the financial markets, and under circumstances like that there's simply no chance of popping up at the last minute with a huge new proposal and thinking it has any chance of passing. If large-scale nationalization was really the preferred solution among liberal activists, the time to start pushing it was before Paulson and Bernanke introduced their bill. Doing it in the middle of last week, and then complaining that it didn't get seriously considered, displays a failure of vision on the left, not from its congressional leadership.

image
image
Get Mother Jones by Email - Free. Like what you're reading? Get the best of MoJo three times a week.
Comments
no profile pic for comment author

displays a failure of vision on the left, not from its congressional leadership.

Dear Kevin, please define "leadership."

no profile pic for comment author

When people can be startled with information, like Paulson did with his bailout proposal, it makes them susceptible to post hypnotic suggestions. The suggestion was "action needed to be taken quickly to prop up the financial markets" or the economy would seize up and lead to a catastrophe. Because of they way the news and solution was delivered, "virtually everyone agreed," with a plan they knew nothing about. Those virtual everyone's are not leftists. Leftists do not have the pulpit of the Sec. of Treasury with which to frame debates and deliver post hypnotic suggestions. Leftists have been making warnings and proposing solutions about this coming crisis for years. Leftists were the only ones aware of what the past seven years was doing to the economy, yet they have no power to inform, let alone to propose solutions, because the American mind is unconscious to them. Call it hemisphere neglect.

no profile pic for comment author

Paulson laid out a bait: his "no questions asked, not now, not later". Evereone jumped on that - instead of just laughing - and by the time they had that off the table, everybody had mre or less accepted the framing.

no profile pic for comment author

The House of Representatives just defeated the bailout proposal. I think this just about puts the icing on the cake for this being the most failed President in our history. I say let's wait and let a new Congress and a different President figure this whole debacle out. I never did like the idea that no one examined Paulson's premise that this was the only way to save the economy. Maybe this economy shouldn't be saved. Maybe it's time for some revolutionary change.

no profile pic for comment author

Maybe this economy shouldn't be saved. Maybe it's time for some revolutionary change.

So what then? Riots in the streets? Let them eat cake? I agree that the bailout is definitely not the way to deal with this but to say we should just let the system fail is a pretty drastic statement. I hope you have savings in the form of non-perishable tangible assets and a gun to protect those assets with...

no profile pic for comment author

...displays a failure of vision on the left...

Well thank goodness for that.

no profile pic for comment author

Everyone who is out of a job, hungry and has no place to sleep should begin walking to Crawford, TX. Bring a pitch fork.

no profile pic for comment author

Houston >"...Maybe it's time for some revolutionary change."

Precisely

And I am NOT suggesting guns and all that juvenile crap. What needs to happen is a financial/monetary system needs to come into existance that is built on reality instead of Mumbo Jumbo delusions of what is valuable and what isn`t.

Not built on gold, not built on silver, not built on any other single thing BUT built on reality. Built on the laws of the real world so that "profit" accrues to those that actually improve the planet & people`s lives and NOT according to who is one`s frat brother, political kin or some "magical fairy dust" paper shuffling.

Start here with the work of Eugene & Howard T. & be sure and ignore Looneybury when he shows up ranting and spewing his ignorance.

no profile pic for comment author

HK

0.0

Post a comment
Alternately, you may login to or register an account
The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <ul> <ol> <li> <blockquote> <img>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.

More information about formatting options


Jail.org - Inmate Search
Criminal records, instant public records & people search & current court records. www.jail.org

U.S. Public Records Search
Search County & State Court Records, Criminal records, Vital and Adoption Records www.PublicRecordsInfo.com

Records.com - People Search
Public Records and Background Checks. Instantly Search Criminal Records, Addresses and Court Records www.Records.com

Court Records & County Records
Find Instant Public Records, Criminal Records as Well as County Property Records Search. www.PublicRecordsIndex.com

Mother Jones Podcast
Get in on the conversation! We talk about culture, politics, the environment, the economy and more. Listen now!

TalkBackTees.com
A treasure trove of liberal wit, wisdom and quotations, from ancient to modern, on colorful, cotton tees.

Support Independent Artists
Amazing art, crafts, apparel, paper-goods and more. A carefully curated selection of sundries since 1999.

FREE CONNECTIONS FOR GREEN SINGLES
Meet progressive singles in the environmental, vegetarian & animal rights community who share your values