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Out, Damned Spot
OUT, DAMNED SPOT....Andrew Tobias isn't quite ready to let go of his bitterness over the Bush years. Me neither! Today he adds yet another chapter to the chronicles of the Mayberry Machiavellis:
I know . . . it's probably not constructive and perhaps not even good sportsmanship to keep piling on....And yet I feel the need to share the story of Skip Orr, whom I met Tuesday night in Grant Park watching President-elect Obama take the stage. A long-time Obama supporter, Skip had flown in from Japan for this....As President of Boeing Japan, he found himself at a Democrats Abroad meeting pitching John Kerry — and then found himself outed as a Democrat in the New York Times. The next day Karl Rove called Boeing headquarters noting his displeasure — and referring to the great deal of business Boeing does with the government. Basically, he wanted Orr fired.
Sweet bunch of guys, aren't they? They can't leave town soon enough for my taste.
The next day Karl Rove called Boeing headquarters noting his displeasure ? and referring to the great deal of business Boeing does with the government. Basically, he wanted Orr fired.
That cannot be legal.
The next day Karl Rove called Boeing headquarters noting his displeasure ? and referring to the great deal of business Boeing does with the government. Basically, he wanted Orr fired.
That cannot be legal.
I'll bet someone got all excited and thought this was an Inkblot post.
Seriously, though. What does sportsmanship have to do with it? This ganged fucked our country over but good, and we need to call them out on it at every opportunity. Never fucking forget it.
Kevin wrote: "They can't leave town soon enough for my taste."
They can't be prosecuted for war crimes, treason and racketeering soon enough for my taste.
If Rove was still working in the White House when he made that call, that's seriously not legal.
The next day Karl Rove called Boeing headquarters noting his displeasure and referring to the great deal of business Boeing does with the government. Basically, he wanted Orr fired.
That cannot be legal.
Read carefully. He was working for the government.
If Rove was still working in the White House when he made that call, that's seriously not legal.
Take it up with Cheney. Quod rex vult, lex fit.
And like Lady Macbeth, may they all go insane.
"Read carefully. He was working for the government."
Wrong. Boeing was doing business with the government.
Go back to Mayberry, Karl.
Letterman asked Wednesday night if anyone would mind if Obama started a little early, and the crowd went nuts.
By the way, I thank him for Indiana. His nightly barage of McCain mocking sure didn't hurt Obama in his home state!
Speaking of Letterman; don't forget that unlike that other late-night big-network comedian, Letterman was mocking GWB while GWB's popularity was still high.
Would this be why Boeing lost a big contract to build tankers for the Air Force (for which John McCain was apparently responsible)?
Me neither!
A week ago you were telling us that you believed McCain would be worse than Bush.
Even my 4th grader knew you were being a tool.
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Blue Girl, I'd really like to think you're right about Letterman carrying Indiana. For all us C students, that would be very cool.
It should be illegal to shake down companies or other actual or potential clients of the government, based on political displeasure. Why isn't it, and if it is it should be pursued.
Neil B, this is another bullet point in the List of Fraudulent, Shady, Crooked, Questionable and Just Blatantly Corrupt Items About the Bush Administration That Should Be Pursued.
could this have anything to do with Boeing losing the tanker contract?
Hmm... Not to mention why as a Boeing employee Orr would have flown into Chicago in the first place. The company did fine for nearly a century till by *complete* coincidence they had to relocate to a state where (at the time, anyway) the senatorial and congressional delegations, not to mention the governorship and at least one of the state legislative branches was in Democratic hands.
Nope, nope, it was *entirely* strategic. Boeing said they just needed to move to a more "central" location so customers (hmm... 60% or so of whom were based in Asia, which is why Orr... oh nevermind) wouldn't have to travel so far.
K-Street Project? Nothing to do with that, really! Otherwise they would have moved to Tom Delay's state.
In all seriousness they probably didn't move under pressure from the Dirty Reds. And of course just a year or so later Illinois also went True Blue, but who could have foreseen that? :-)
figleaf
My friends, when I take office on January 20th, I will order the McCain Justice Department to prosecute each and every member of the criminal cabal currently occupying the White House. Country First!
(I'm an old man. I get confused. Jerry? Jerry?)
I still have high hopes for Governor Don Seigelman and Karl Rove meeting at a Washington Party-It will be an example of the Irresistable Force Meeting the Whimpering running man!
Can we please stop slandering my hometown with references to the "Mayberry Machiavellis?" True, every other week Andy had reason to say "Heckuva job, Barney," but neither he, nor Howard Sprague, nor any other civic leader ever sold the town down the river for the sake of political entrenchment. And home--the town jail, complete with Aunt Bea's homecooked meals--was always open to outsiders like Otis.
And lest it escaped anyone's attention, Mayberry is in North Carolina & North Carolina voted for Obama.
Let's put this tired slander to bed.
And Rahm Emanuel would never do anything like that? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Can we please stop slandering my hometown with references to the "Mayberry Machiavellis?"
And, as the sort of hillbilly who actually read Machiavelli's The Prince at age 13 (as well as being in his play Mandragora in college), we need to stop defaming the memory of Niccolo Machiavelli(1469-1527), Florentine patriot, diplomat, poet, philosopher, and politician. His advocacy of amoral seizure of power was a response to the political claims of the Papacy and it's foreign allies, who had kept Italy dismembered. It doesn't really mirror the smallminded plotting and attempt at machine politics of KKKarl Rove. Machiavelli knew that a ruler could not rule by fear alone, that he must show greatness. Rove acted as if the polity of the US were a particularly squalid version of high school.
"Hometown Himmlers" is closer.
Dale, have you any evidence to offer that Rahmbo has done or would do things like *that*? He made be tough and sometimes an a-hole, but not in the sense Kevin noted about Rove.
Have to wonder what Palin would have done differently.
Those Bushies, there should no doubt they were mobsters in every sense of the word.
Kevin,
I think this is the wrong way to look at it. This is not about "letting go" or the equivalent.
The Number One issue for seven years, today, and almost certainly for the rest of their natural lives is: the Bush Catastrophe.
My pre-teen children will be at least middle-aged before the mess is fully purged, if ever. My prayer for my children is they see all this evil - let's call it what it is - will be defeated.
Neil, even the liberal media is questioning Obama's campaign promises of unity now that Rahm is at the helm.
Loss of the Tanker contract (the second one, not the stupid leaseback deal) can mainly be attributed to the Republican desire to destroy the American working class.
After all, building the tankers here would have meant that many more high-paying, blue-collar jobs for the US, and blue-collar people that then could have sent their kids to college...exactly what Republicans don't want, despite the eeevil French making a large portion of the Airbus contender. And no, putting the pieces of said Airbus MRTT together in Alabama doesn't count as 'building' an airplane.
Keep the electorate hungry, fearful and stupid...so the rabble will continue to vote against their best interests, out of fear, ignorance, greed, or all 3. Pretty hard to send your kid to college working at Wal-Mart.
It's the Republican way.