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Frost/Nixon
FROST/NIXON....Becks went to see Frost/Nixon and wasn't impressed:
The movie is even worse than the play. I felt that it was total bullshit. I don't want to get too spoileriffic, but my main problem was that the movie cultivates an air of a faux documentary, trying to convince the readers that it's well-researched and based on actual events, and then completely invents a pivotal scene that is supposed to explain both Frost and Nixon's motivations.
I was pissed enough that this went unmentioned in the movie (my recollection was that it's admitted in the play) but really turned against it upon learning of even more insidious manipulation of events from my fellow moviegoers after the show.
I haven't seen the film either, partly for this reason, and I'm beginning to wonder if Ron Howard is planning to make a habit of this. As I recall, he was praised for the accuracy of Apollo 13, but then he went and made A Beautiful Mind, which bore practically no resemblance to the book at all. Like all of us, I'm pretty used to movies taking dramatic liberties with the truth, but aside from the fact that it depicts a famous mathematician who later became mentally ill, the movie version of A Beautiful Mind might as well have been made on another planet from the one where the book was published. I've been suspicious of everything Howard has made since then, and it sounds like Frost/Nixon is more along the same lines.
Anybody else seen it? What did you think?
But Ron Howard made such a faithful adaptation of Cat in the Hat, so true to my cherished childhood memories!
Elizabeth Drew on Frost/Nixon:
A Dishonorable Distortion of History
[oops! that Drew article was one of your URLs; I missed it on first reading, my bad.]
Based on a true story means Fiction
I guess I shouldn't judge a movie until I actually see it, but this one seems so superfluous, because Frost/Nixon the documentary has been released on DVD. Why see the movie when you can see the real thing?
I'm really enjoying the TV ads. Apparently Nixon's about to get away with the whole thing when Ed Exley gets him in the box, and then the piss starts running down his leg. Or maybe it was Col. Jack Nicholson yelling about the truth. Is that what it was like? Better be, or there are going to be a lot of sore people in the Googolplex.
Ron Howard does this every so often.
My favorite example is from his Tom Cruise/Nichole Kidman Irish epic, Far And Away, which has an ending so hokey, so manipulative, and so annoying that I actually yelled out in a movie theater "DON'T... DO THAT" when I figured out that was where Howard was going with the film.
You may have felt the same today.
I don't know. I get why some people clamor for historical accuracy in movies, since fabrications depicted in them have a way of seeping into the mainstream consciousness (re: JFK).
But take for example a movie like Munich. From what I understand the movie bears zero resemblance to reality. But depicting reality wasn't really the point. It was a Spielberg's personal meditation on 9/11 and everything that came after. And it worked awesomely (except the whole literal climax thing).
My general take on this is if you want history, read a book.
I didn't get the sense that this movie was trying to be a faux documentary, nor did I see any claims it was well researched. I can see why some people might take exception to it's historical accuracy, but as a compelling movie it succeeds very well. You have to assume going into a film that there will be liberties taken. The power of Frost/Nixon lies primarily in the acting of the leads and they were outstanding. Regardless of whether the plot coincides perfectly (or even very well) with the actual events isn't the point. I'm comfortable with a movie being based on real people and events but largely fictitious. Perhaps, however, a disclosure is in order somewhere in the movie.
The climactic scene is well acted, but I found it all a bit bland and lacking in true recognition either of Nixon's malfeasance or his ultimate escape from acknowledging responsibility even before reading the HuffPo piece that rather damned the film.
My main mystification watching the film was the character "Caroline Cushing", who is always present and continuously seems about to be used by the filmmaker to impart some message, some insight, some human touch, something - and simply doesn't. She has more screen time and maybe more lines than, say, the Reston character, but I could absolutely not tell what role she was supposed to play in the plot, in character development, or in some greater symbolism.
If the "pivotal scene" that the reviewer referred to is the one with the phone call, I thought I saw Frost on tv recently say that it actually happened more or less as it did in the movie. I searched youtube and hulu but I can't find it. Perhaps somebody else can back me up.
I enjoyed the movie, though after reading Drew's critique of it's historical inaccuracy, I do wish that they had made it more accurate. It does work, though, and I'm not sure any of the inaccuracies really change the point of the movie, which is that Frost and his crew did an amazing job and Nixon was a tragic scumbag.
I have seen this movie. My recommendation is to see it!
I think its more about the "deeper truths. For example, there's an amazing scene where the Nixon character lets loose with all his feelings of paranoia re: the snobby elites. That is Nixon.
One issue with the film, which I believe was pointed out by the NewYorker, is that it is predidicated on the viewer identifying with the Frost character. But why should you really care about this guy?
Anyways, worth watching. And certainly not deserving of violent invective.
Here's a torrent link for the original Nixon interviews with Frost:
I'm not going to post links for the DVD Oscar screeners of Nixon/Frost, but they're certainly readily available.
er, Here's a torrent link for
the original Nixon interviews with Frost
Kevin Drum: he was praised for the accuracy of Apollo 13
Not by anyone from Grumman. Overall it was a good movie, but the depiction of the Grumman rep as a weaselly CYA "never designed to do that" type was completely inaccurate (as confirmed by Gene Kranz no less).
Meanwhile, Rockwell, whose mistakes on the CSM space capsule were responsible for both the Apollo 1 and Apollo 13 disasters, came out smelling like a rose. Grumman, whose lunar lander was like nothing ever built before (space capsules had been built for Mercury and Gemini), and which not only worked flawlessly every time but saved the Apollo 13 crew by doing things it had never been intended for, came out smelling like rose fertilizer.
Guess which company got the space shuttle contract.
Howard took some pretty tremendous liberties with the facts in his narration to "Arrested Development", too.
Opie Taylor is a UConn fan? Who knew?
Ron Howard has made a habit of this. He portrayed Max Baer as a bloodthirsty, shallow bully in Cinderella Man when by all accounts that was about as far from the truth as could be.
What makes it worth seeing is Langella's performance. True, he looks nothing like Nixon. But you forget that during in the movie. Instead, you focus on the character he creates, which, even if fictional - especially if fictional -is fascinating in its own right.
Kevin,
Were you annoyed with Milos Forman's Amadeus? Or, for that matter, with Shakespeare's Julius Caesar? Fictions, both of them. But if you can get over that ... not awful.
I loved Frost/Nixon. The most surprising thing about the film was that it made you confront and deal with Nixon's humaneness without asking you you to excuse any of his crimes. It was an important lesson in how to avoid demonizing those we don't like or approve of. For me that larger point easily obscured any issues I might have with how the particulars of the film deviated from "the truth."
And Frank Langella's performance was astounding.
Since you've appointed yourself arbiter of blog etiquette, perhaps you can add another annoying blogging feature to your list: blogs that have rules for posting, hold posts for "review" prior to posting them, and then disappear posts that don't, in any way, violate the rules. It amounts to people wasting their time typing out stuff that goes into the aether.
Here's a simple rule to live by: Never see a movie directed by a former TV actor. (Okay, okay, you'd miss Spinal Tap, but that's about it.)
Here's a simple rule to live by: Never see a movie directed by a former TV actor. (Okay, okay, you'd miss Spinal Tap, but that's about it.)
You'd also miss The Jerk and When Harry Met Sally.
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