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JOE!....Via Atrios, our friends at Pajamas Media have landed an exclusive:
Joe The Plumber is putting down his wrenches and picking up a reporter's notebook. The Ohio man who became a household name during the presidential campaign says he is heading to Israel as a war correspondent for the conservative Web site pjtv.com.
Another triumph for citizen journalism. Maybe Sarah Palin will join him for a surprise appearance at a bomb crater somewhere.
Hey! Let a guy make some money okay. The economic downturn has really hit the plumbing business, in spite of everything being in the crapper!
So I'm guessing his plan to own his own plumbing business didn't work out.
He tried to warn us this would happen if Obama got elected.
Godspeed, Joe the unlicensed Plumber. Godspeed.
How long have you been blogging Kevin? How long for WaMo or MoJo? And how many times have you picked up a phone to call the subject of a blog post of yours to clarify a situation, or get their response?
I'm not so sure you're the one to be sneering about citizen journalists....
I have no reason to think that what Joe says would be any better or worse reported than anyone else. But it sure sounds more interesting than what I do, and it sounds like a better way for him to get information than just reading random bloggers and their random commenters.
So more power to him.
jerry,
How's Millie? Doing OK? Good.
I have a reason to suspect Joe the formerly unlicensed plumber will be a Republican shill. Do you want to hear it?
Millie's doing fine. Apparently she was recently on a Law & Order, SVU as "Church Lady."
I think there's a very good chance that Joe will do a lousy job and will be biased. (Sounds like most reporters, but most reporters like to pretend otherwise.)
Anyway, I'm always interested in your theories....
Joe, whatever he is now, is trying to extend his 15 minutes of fame. In truth, he is just a rather pathetic soul who was plucked - by an inept candidate tying to save his own ass - from total obscurity. He got plucked OK - big time. Pretty soon he'll crawl back under his rock and life will go on.
Stupid question time. Just who is underwriting Joe on his maiden voyage into bloggerism? It damn sure isn't likely to be Pajamas Media. Even the two best known Middle East military/political bloggers, Michael Yon & Michael Totten are supported primarily by their blog readers. Somehow I doubt that Joe has the necessary large bundle of cash to do this on his own. So just who is paying Joe's bills? Nosy minds want to know.
"I have no reason to think that what Joe says would be any better or worse reported than anyone else."
Apparently you have not heard joe the plumber's opinions.
jerry,
That is good news! I haven't heard from Freddie in over 10 years - is he still writing?
But I don't have any theories for you. I'm just thinking with the construction trade in the toilet Joe will be needing some dough and there is a long and time honored tradition of shilling for the people with money. If he's got some skillz he'll be fine but if not, well, once you sell your integrity there is nothing left to sell.
I figure even Limbo, rich as hell but alone and needing drugs to feel good has figured that one out.
So, maybe someone should just pick up Joe's wrenches and become a plumber.
You know that Joe will be a shill because, by his own admission, he was disgusted by McCain yet he continued to ride the bus and talk about how great McCain would be as president.
The thing is that good journalism isn't simply writing down what someone says or calling up people. It also involves having contextual and even historical knowledge about the topic.
How long have you been blogging Kevin? How long for WaMo or MoJo? And how many times have you picked up a phone to call the subject of a blog post of yours to clarify a situation, or get their response?
Jerry, you really ought to go back and review Kevin's work on George Bush's reserve records. You'd actually enjoy it. If CBS had paid attention, they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble.
Leave Joe alone. He just wants to do his patriotic duty, and move up into a tax bracket where his taxes really will be increased.
After he returns from Iraq Joe will be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars." Then he'll compete in the Iron Dog Race in Alaska, sponsored by Mitt Romney. After that he'll design a line of clothing for not-plumbers, that will be cut in such a way that the wearer won't even have to bend over to get the desired crack exposure.
He'll never have to not-plumb again.
There once was a plumber named Joe,
who envied the people with dough.
Now his brother Bill,
was paid well to shill.
So off overseas he did go.
I'm sure he's being sent to cover pipe bombs.
Well good for him.
If you people were at all capable of introspection, you'd wonder why you hate so many people so much.
Joe the Plumber is a joke
JRC, you win.
My question: Since the theater of action i sealed off, how will Joe be a war correspondant. Just how far away from Tel Aviv airport Motel 6 will he be traveling?
And what about his passport? I am from that part of Ohio and (semi)plumbers with passports are not common at all?
Also, I wonder if he is a better typer than I am.
Keith G, he might even be a better typist
typical
I was kinda hoping he would go to California-the Stae has a lot of people that don't understand plumbing fixtures!
Jerry, after careful consideration, I've determined that you have a reading comprehension problem. I don't think anyone claims that Joe is certain to fail as a war correspondent. There are plenty of reasons to think his chances aren't good, but if you've missed them so far, recounting them to you seems pointless.
My point Boronx is certainly not that I expect Joe to do a good job. My point is who cares, and why are we so called good liberals picking on Joe (again?)
We like to think that we're better than those ugly mean Republicans, but we like to fling dung and smell our fingers along with the worst of them.
I genuinely wish Joe the best. When he screws up, that's when it's time to discuss it, not before.
And I would like to see Kevin, instead of sneering at Joe, pick up the phone on occasion and say, "This is Kevin Drum from Mother Jones, and I have a couple of questions." That would add a great deal more value to his blog than this post.
jerry,
I pick on shills. Joe has become a shill. He will be paid to pretend to be objective while presenting the GOP talking points.
I get that people are gonna compromise their principles to feed their children, and I get that this situation is going to get worse, a lot worse.
I'm still going to tell the truth. You may call that flinging dung but there is a difference.
And personally I think the proper response to shills is mockery and disdain. Shilling to keep your kids from starving is OK, but done for most every other reason it deserves scorn.
And where is your blog, Mr. critical?
I'm still sure he's being sent to cover pipe bombs. And I'm equally his selection was intended to incite howls of outrage from the left and from honest bloggers and journalists. So far, he hasn't reported on pipe bombs, and given the difficulty of getting into Gaza, that assignment may, figuratively speaking, blow up in his face, but his mission has most certainly succeeded in pulling, and pulling hard, the chain of his critics. If Bill Buckley is watching, he's getting one hell of a chuckle out of this.
I just heard a clip from Joe saying his job was to be an average guy and to get the opinion of the average guy on the street in Israel.
If that is the case, and if that is what he does, then more power to him. I don't begrudge him making a living.
This just shows how seamless
This just shows how seamless the foreign policy transition would be for a Palin administration: Our agents on the ground are already the envy of other States.
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