Kevin Drum

Short Term vs. Long Term

| Mon Jan. 12, 2009 10:39 AM PST

SHORT TERM vs. LONG TERM....As long as we're talking about the economic long term, here's another question for the economics crowd. Conventional wisdom, after first complaining that TARP was misconceived and what was really needed was bank recapitalization, has quickly swung around to the idea that, in fact, Henry Paulson's capital injections were wasted. After all, banks still aren't lending.

Tax cuts, similarly, are in ill repute because they don't necessarily increase consumption. People are more likely to sock the money away in a savings account or use it to pay down credit card debt. So there's no bang for the buck.

But surely this is short sighted? Stimulus spending can (we hope) help keep the economy afloat over the next couple of years, but then what? When the economy starts to recover, it will certainly be helped along if bank balance sheets are in better shape than they are today. Likewise, it will be helped along if consumers have paid down some of that credit card debt and put a few dollars aside. Right? We can't keep running a negative savings rate forever, after all.

So: what's wrong with government spending to stimulate the economy now, combined with tax cuts and bank recapitalizations to help get the economy in shape for recovery a couple of years down the road? This isn't so much a suggestion as a question. Does this make sense, or is there some fundamental misconception at its core? What say the economists?

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The Stimulus

| Mon Jan. 12, 2009 10:10 AM PST

THE STIMULUS....From the same Washington Post article about the Bush economic record that I quoted below, we also have this:

"The expansion was a continuation of the way the U.S. has grown for too long, which was a consumer-led expansion that was heavily concentrated in housing," said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a onetime Bush White House staffer and one of Sen. John McCain's top economic advisers for his presidential campaign. "There was very little of the kind of saving and export-led growth that would be more sustainable."

"For a group that claims it wants to be judged by history, there is no evidence on the economic policy front that that was the view," Holtz-Eakin said. "It was all Band-Aids."

Agreed — and this is what continues to niggle at the back of my mind. A big stimulus package is all well and good, but suggestions that it should be even bigger and badder than Obama has proposed make me wonder what the end game is. Paul Krugman, for example, criticizes the $800 billion plan on the grounds that it will only make up for part of the output gap caused by the recession, not all of it. But aside from the practical question of whether we could effectively spend double the amount Obama is proposing anyway, I guess I wonder if we should even be trying to make up the entire output gap with domestic spending. Because there really is some readjustment that needs to happen in the medium term.

For years now the the skyrocketing U.S. trade deficit has been Topic A among economists. The big fear was that the Chinese were shipping us goods and we were shipping them back treasury bills, and this couldn't last forever. Eventually the Chinese would tire of stockpiling treasuries, the dollar would crash, and all hell would break loose. In the end, that's not what happened, but it was still the trade deficit that was at the heart of our problem: American consumers went into deep debt to buy all those Chinese goods, the savings glut from China and elsewhere poured into the American housing market, and eventually the music stopped. The dollar didn't crash, but housing and the American consumer did.

But the dollar could yet crash, because one way or another the books have to balance. Americans have to consume less and export more. Keeping American output high is important, but one way or another American consumption has to fall and Chinese consumption has to grow. If a gigantic stimulus plan keeps output high but also keeps consumption high, then it's just another Band-Aid.

So what's the end game? Hardly anyone wants to talk about it. And I feel sort of stuck. I'm not an economist myself, and virtually every economist I respect is on board with the idea that the Obama stimulus package is, if anything, too modest. It should be twice as big and last twice as long. Better safe than sorry. That's hard to argue with, but I still wonder where it's going to leave us in a few years. With a nice soft landing as the dollar rises but doesn't implode, or at the top of yet another bubble waiting to pop?

Quote of the Day - 01.12.09

| Mon Jan. 12, 2009 9:40 AM PST

QUOTE OF THE DAY....From Edward Lazear, chairman of George Bush's Council of Economic Advisers, on the administration's economic track record:

"It does look like a great eight years, aside from the last quarter, unfortunately."

Actually, he's wrong: it wasn't a great eight years, regardless of whether or not you count the final quarter. But this was still too good a quote not to memorialize.

24

| Mon Jan. 12, 2009 9:32 AM PST

24....So I watched the 24 premiere last night, and it's obvious that the show is going to deal head on with the subject of torture this season. Episode 1 opens with Jack testifying before a Senate committee about his past transgressions, which he wearily but defiantly confesses to, and then rolls through two hours of FBI agents wondering "how far he'll go" — because, you see, Jack's exploits with the dark arts are apparently the thing of legend in the hallways of the Bureau.

Is there any way for this end other than badly? After all, here in the blogosphere we opponents of torture like to argue that we don't live in the world of 24, guys. And we don't. But Jack Bauer, needless to say, does live in the world of 24. And in that world, there are well-heeled terrorists around every corner, ticking time bombs aplenty, and torture routinely saves thousands of lives. What are the odds that it won't do so again this season — except this time after lots of talk about the rule of law blah blah liberals blah blah it's your call blah blah? Pretty low, I'd guess. Hopefully the writers will surprise me.

The Harry Potter Effect

| Mon Jan. 12, 2009 8:54 AM PST

THE HARRY POTTER EFFECT....Via Dan Drezner, the NEA has released its latest survey of reading habits, and the news is good. Fiction reading among young adults is way up, and overall reading is up too. More than 50% of adults read a piece of literature last year. Huzzah!

The highest rate of reading is among 55-64 year-olds. Poetry reading continued to decline: only 8% of adults read a poem last year, compared to 12% in 2002. And in other unsurprising news, internet reading is concentrated among the young. About half of 18-44 year-olds read an article or essay online last year, with the number plummeting quickly above that. Less than 10% of 70-year-olds read anything online in 2008.

Stimulus Details

| Sat Jan. 10, 2009 12:43 PM PST

STIMULUS DETAILS....In case you're curious, Barack Obama's economic boffins now estimate that his stimulus plan will create 3.6 million additional jobs over the next two years. And if you're further curious about how likely this is to affect you, the estimated breakdown by industry is on the right:

To get more detailed information on the breakdown of the jobs created, we use a simulation from a prominent private forecaster on a plan that is similar — though not identical — to the type of plan the President-Elect is considering....The estimates suggest that 30% of the jobs created will be in construction and manufacturing, even though these industries employ only 15% of all workers. Both sectors have been particularly hard hit recently. The other two significant sectors that are disproportionately represented in job creation are retail trade and leisure and hospitality.

Later in the report the authors helpfully estimate that 42% of the new jobs will go to women. Bruce Bartlett emails a very brief critique of the report: "Some of these numbers look rather dubious to me, especially those for 'indirect' job creation." Perhaps so, though the broad methodology seems within the ballpark of reasonableness: they assume a net multiplier (spending + tax cuts) of around 1.3 producing nominal GDP growth in 2010 of $500 billion, combined with a "conservative rule of thumb that a 1 percent increase in GDP corresponds to an increase in employment of approximately 1 million jobs." Paul Krugman thinks these numbers sound roughly right and show that the stimulus package is too small. I'll pass along other economic comment as I see it.

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Job Losses

| Sat Jan. 10, 2009 10:29 AM PST

JOB LOSSES....A headline at CNN blares:

Worst year for jobs since '45

The LA Times follows suit. But come on, folks. This is completely bogus. I'm all for dramatizing just how grim our economic situation is, but you can't use raw numbers like this in an era of rising population. The civilian labor force today is 40% larger than it was in 1982 and more than twice as large as it was in 1945. Job losses last year amounted to about 1.7% of the labor force, but in 1945 the equivalent number was nearly 5% and in 1982 it was nearly 2%.

Job losses last year were brutal, and if you count broader measures than the headline unemployment rate they were even grimmer. But there's no need to use moron math to make it seem even worse than it is. "Worst since 1982" would have been fine.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell

| Fri Jan. 9, 2009 7:37 PM PST

DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL....Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs posted a video Q&A today on the change.gov site and took the following question:

Thaddeus: Is the new administration going to get rid of the "don't ask don't tell" policy?

Gibbs: Thaddeus, you don't hear a politician give a one-word answer much, but it's yes.

That's very good news, though I sure wish Gibbs had given a multi-word answer instead. Mainly, what I want to know is: "What do you plan to replace it with?" We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.

Friday Cat Blogging - 9 January 2009

| Fri Jan. 9, 2009 12:48 PM PST

FRIDAY CATBLOGGING....Yesterday was a nice sunny winter day, so Inkblot got a bee in his bonnet and suddenly decided to scamper up our jacaranda tree. Perhaps he knew that we're about to have it removed and wanted one last look? Hard to say. As usual, though, he didn't really know what to do once he got up, and came scampering down about as fast as he scampered up. Domino, who knows her limits, enjoyed the winter sun from ground level.

In other cat news, the Bush family cat, India, died on Sunday. R.I.P.

Debra Bowen, California's Secretary of State, sends along news of her critters: "I'm up to three cats now — Mapplethorpe, Oz and Sushi. Sushi, my latest pound cat, hangs out on the 6th floor of the SOS office fairly often — and knows everyone who works there, and who has the best sleeping spots at what time of day." She promises pictures someday.

Finally, last week Blue Girl started up Friday Public Art Blogging over at her Missouri blog. "Does Missouri have any public art of cats?" I asked. Probably so, but this week a dog will have to do. And Zoe!

Quote of the Day - 01.09.09

| Fri Jan. 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST

QUOTE OF THE DAY....From Ben Shapiro, describing the Benjamin "Henry Gale" Linus character on Lost:

Benry is evil to be sure — but he's pure, solid, wonderful evil in the mold of Dick Cheney.

Yes, this is meant as a compliment.