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FISA, Feingold, and a Filibuster?
In the wake of the House of Representatives' passage of a bill last week that grants the White House wide latitude to spy on American citizens, and that effectively forces courts to throw out lawsuits against lawbreaking telecommunications companies, Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wisc., predicted today that the Senate would likely follow suit, despite strong protests from civil liberties groups and a majority of Democratic party members.
"I'm very worried we're not going to be able to prevail," Feingold said.
Feingold was the featured guest at a New America Foundation event where he discussed systemic gaps in the country's collection of foreign intelligence. But during a question and answer session, he fielded several questions about the controversial wiretapping law.
The Wisconsin Democrat voiced considerable frustration with members of his own party, who, he says, have enabled the sweeping new legislation. "Sen. Dodd and I and Sen. Leahy are going to do everything we can to stop this mistake," Feingold noted, referring to fellow opponents of the bill. "But I'm extremely concerned that not only virtually every Republican... but far too many Democrats will vote the wrong way."
"We met with Sen. Reid on friday morning," said Feingold, speaking of himself and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and we indicated our desire that this thing not just be jammed through, we'll be requiring key procedural votes and we'll also be taking some time on the floor this week to indicate the problems with this legislation."
This won't be the first time the duo have tried to stall the enactment of broad surveillance powers by using procedural tactics. Last February, amid the uproar over the possibility that the government would retroactively immunize telecommunications companies who participated in the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping program, Dodd spearheaded a filibuster of a similar set of FISA Amendments—a move which ultimately prompted Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to pull the bill from the floor.
Progressive activists and civil libertarians hailed the filibuster, and the Democratic party's greater decision not to cave in to White House demands on a national security issue. Nonetheless, several senior Democrats spent the intervening months trying to accommodate the Republicans. And despite containing less than a handful of narrow improvements over the February amendments, the new legislation has much wider support among Democratic leaders. Many of them claim the bill represents a worthy compromise.
"That's a farce and it's political cover," Feingold said, "Anybody who claims this is an okay bill, I really question if they've even read it. "
"Democrats enabled [this]," Feingold went on. "Some of the rank and file Democrats in the Senate who were elected on this reform platform unfortunately voted with Kit Bond who's just giggling he's so happy with what he got. We caved in."
Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., is the ranking member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and has been the Bush administration's chief congressional point man in its attempt to secure both retroactive immunity for telephone companies and much wider authority to conduct surveillance on both foreign and domestic targets.
Feingold also described critics' chief concern with the provision of immunity—specifically that it will mean the eventual dismissal of a number of lawsuits that might otherwise have shed some light on the president's legally dubious Terrorist Surveillance Program. "It doesn't simply have the impact of potentially allowing telephone companies to break the law," Feingold said. "It may well prevent us from getting to the core issue, that I've challenged since December 2005, which is the president ran an illegal program I think that was essentially an impeachable offense."
Immunity, though, may ultimately constitute a distraction from an even larger spectacle. "Frankly the tremendous and legitimate focus on the immunity has covered up and sat on top of this issue," Feingold said. "I think the big story is ultimately not going to be that the telephone companies got immunity... it's that our personal conversations are now in a giant database somewhere over which we have no control."
Holding up his BlackBerry, Feingold warned, "Every time you email my daughter or text message her in England, anybody contacts their son or daughter in Iraq, anybody has kids [spending] junior year abroad, anybody that has a business associate anywhere around the world, all of that is now sucked up into a database over which there is essentially no control for the first time in American history." All of this has happened to you, and your communications, in a way that you never would have thought was possible in this country.... we're going to fall over on this."
The Senate will most likely take up FISA later this week, and one source of disappointment for activists and civil libertarians alike has been presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's position on the issue.
"I don't know for sure what Sen. Obama's going to do," Feingold said.
In October, the Illinois Senator promised to support a filibuster of any bill that grants amnesty to telecommunications providers. In a statement last week, though, Obama indicated he would support the House bill.





























FISA is the law of the land. FISA allows the NSA to do warantless wiretaps. The telcos have to allow this, it's the law.
Only the NSA can break the law and only if they do not eventually get a warrant thru the FISA court. The telcos don't ever get to see the warrant, as it is obviously a state secret.
Information gathered without a warrant is not admissable in court. That is the remedy. Everything else in your post is just tin-foil hat paranoia.
Tim:
You stated:
"Only the NSA can break the law and only if they do not eventually get a warrant thru the FISA court."
DO NOT is my objection. No one should be allowed to break the law, not NSA, not the president or anyone else, and NSA, Homeland Security or anyone else not eventually getting a warrant is in my mind breaking the law, which should not be allowed by legislation. Our courts can only hold with our legislaton and the constitution.
You say, "information gathered without a warrant is not admissible in court"; then what is the point of harassing people without a warrant, since they are not obtaining a warrant, unless it is ONLY to harass and/or blackmail people, should they find out something that someone doesn't want everyone to know, like J. Edgar Hoover did.
A warrant should always be necessary for any kind of government spying.
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I hope some REAL democratic Senators will actually filibuster this bill and not allow it to pass through the Senate. Sen. Harry Reid should not even allow it to be voted on, but if he does, it should be filibustered to the Nth degree.
It is strange, but with the numerous amount of DLC Republican-Democrats on the democratic side in Congress, a lame duck REPUBLICAN president with only an 11% approval rating by the people, is no longer lame.
The last sentence says it all. No one who claims to be a liberal/progressive can vote for Obama. Case closed.
Given that the Democratic Leadersheep in the House (Pelosi, Hoyer, Emanuel, Reyes and close to half of the Democrats IN the House) were singing off the same sheet music as the Bullsh Administration, how likely IS IT that the DemoPublicans in the Senate aren't about to vote more Extra-Constitutional powers to the Government?
DAMN the Constitution (and our Oath to "Preserve, Protect and Defend" it..)
Full Speed Astern!
Check up on your own Rep's vote here (remove the underscores):
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My Freshman Dem Congressman was on the WRONG side of the Constitution on this one, and I let him have my opinion both before AND after his vote. (for all the good it'll do...)
I would love to see a filibuster. Notebook pcs are allowed on the Senate floor now. If the filibuster occurred, the honest Democratic Senators could simply read from political blogs, or even twitters if they set it up. They could, for the first time in over 200 years (maybe ever), bring the actual voices of America to the floor of the Senate. It would be a ruckus. It would be purely American.
Voting for cloture against the filibuster would be a de facto vote against listening to the people.
NSA Employees Feel the BITE of "Authorized Crime" as RETALIATION
As a 26+ year employee of the NSA I can tell you that the psychopaths in the rogue "Q group" security section LOVE this. Any NSA executive can come to them and tell them, I don't like so-and-so, GET him/her. And they "manufacture" reasons to turn the full force of their resources on a whistleblower, while laughing at the "new stronger" whistle blower protection laws.
In 2002-3 I did research based on a tip from a co-worker that found a very grave danger to Americans. Our managers took a pedantic stand that would have squelched the intelligence and gotten a lot of people killed, but my coworker and I prevailed after he alerted high government officials to the danger and they DEMANDED the information. We spent 8-9 months researching, testing, reporting and were successfull in thwarting a fiasco. Our "thanks" was for him to be chased out of the organization, my part squelched and purposely MIScredited the high chief's branch bimbo to get her promoted.
When I asked the NSA IG to look into it, I found myslef targetted for a security leak accusation that either had nothing to do with me, or didn't exist to begin with... a la an accusation by the bimbo's "best friend" in the branch - and with the office chief's blessing, no doubt since he took measures to squelch my chance of promotion or ANYone seeing my internal resume for the next 5 years.
My polygrapher even ambushed me just before the polygraph with a tirade of verbal abuse - IN ORDER TO upset me, IN ORDER TO skew the test. It was criminally unprofessional and an obvious set-up. He apparently wanted to take no chances that I might pass the test and prove the allegation false. Despite passing another, I was turned over for investigation/surveillance and, with mounting frustration that they could not find guilt on my part for ANYTHING, they decided to not just twist the law, but forgo it. Investigation/surveillance from 2005 - 2008 turned into harassment and stalking BY NSA Security personnel AND Paragon Security Firm GOONS. I asked NSA to investigate for counter-terrorist activity when they denied THEY had anything to do with it (despite one contractor idiot who was wearing his NSA badge while stalking me around the grocery store). When I still refused to take back my complaint and asked for pertinent documentation to be declassified about the IG's refusal to investigate, NSA hired a contractor psychologist in Columbia, MD to profile me for the best approach to psychological attack, went to my coworkers, social network, neighbors, and slandered me far and wide as some kind of "danger to the community" who needed to be gang-stalked 24/7 "for God and Country".
This includes wiretapping me, bugging the house, ransacking my house for my lists of NSA Security and contractor stalkers images and license plates numbers, getting my U.S. mail rifled thru, stolen with the help of neighbors - if it would help me with information such as FOIA replies, (Family watch dog poisoned and killed). Now "Special Programs" is telling me take back my IG complaint or they will fire me for being "delusional and paranoid" because I can't prove anything since they have the neighbors on their side.
I have no idea what has been said, and am sure these little "patriot goons" will never say, because if they learned its a lie, then they would have to face the fact that THEY are the MONSTERS and have been played the FOOL by bigger NSA psychpath monsters intentionally abusing their power. Thanks to NSA - Columbia, Maryland is the entrance point of "RED SQUADS" to the American life - vigilante fools, who will utterly destroy America to serve petty despots, drunk on power and limitless funds for personal kingdom building from "Homeland Security". (Wonder why the economy is tanking? Think about it!) And people are so undereducated they don't know that these tactics were used by HITLER and STALIN and the KKK and the STASI (East German Police). So, now in America, when someone INNOCENT is accused of something which NO ONE can find ANY evidence of guilt for - the PUNISHMENT FOR DARING TO BE INNOCENT, is personal destruction of your career, reputation, social network, finaces, and blackballing for the rest of your life - to make sure you never get a good job. I'm threatened with being fired and losing my CSRS pension 3 years before I could have retired - because some despot covetted MY GOOD WORK to use to promote HIS worthless office slut. Ever hear of Russell Tice? NSA employee who TRIED to alert NSA to the fact a coworker was a spy for China? The attacked him too. And we are not alone. Next, it will be YOU for daring to not support "the party line". THIS is the BUSH LEGACY. Welcome to the U.S. S.S.R. And not a shot was fired to turn the U.S. into a totalitatrian regime to serve the elite.
http://www.gangstalking.ca/
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