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How the Far Right Handed Dems a 60-Vote Majority
The reason Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter switched parties on Tuesday is rather obvious. Though Specter explained in a statement released today that it's due to the GOP's rightward shift ("I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans," he said), the more likely reason is that Specter's political career would end if he remained a Republican. Unlike Vermont Senator Jim Jeffords, who abandoned the GOP and caucused with the Democrats in 2001 in a principled decision, declining to run for reelection, Specter is simply reading the tea leaves. Most available polling indicates that the moderate Specter would be trounced in the 2010 Republican primary by a conservative challenger named Pat Toomey.
Specter barely beat Toomey in the 2004 Republican primary. Since then the Republican Party in Pennsylvania has shrunk while the Democratic Party has grown. Toomey, the former head of the anti-tax group Club for Growth and a committed fiscal conservative, was particularly well suited to bash Specter for being one of the three Republican votes for President Barack Obama's stimulus bill. Pennsylvania's GOP base has become more rigid and extreme as it has gotten smaller. Specter acknowledged this in his statement: "I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of Pennsylvania." Toomey, who once wrote that Hillary Clinton's economic views are based on a "fundamental mistrust of individual freedom," is a better fit the new, more conservative Pennsylvania GOP. Specter could win among Republicans in 2004. He likely couldn't do it in 2010.
So credit the far right's ascendancy in the modern GOP for handing Senate Democrats a 60-vote majority (pending the expected seating of Al Franken). The Republican Party has moved dramatically rightward in the age of Obama, and allowed people like Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin to become its most vocal representatives. Not only did this alienate the moderate Specter (and cause him to fear for his future in the GOP); it created space for a right-wing purist like Toomey to run and win in a primary. (Toomey recently said that Obama's agenda is so scary that "there's a real danger that capitalism is going to go on strike, because the capitalists don't know what the government is going to do next.") With today's GOP jeering its moderates and pushing away sympathetic independents, Toomey has a winning profile. Specter switched parties to save his skin (reportedly making a deal that the Democratic Party would support him and no one else in the primary). Though Specter says he will be no rubber stamp, it will now be easier for Democrats to overcome Republican filibusters.
All this has happened before. On November 9, 1994, a day after the Republicans gained control of both the House and the Senate for the first time in decades, Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby switched to the winning side, giving the GOP 53 votes in the upper house. By the end of the next year, five House Dems and Colorado Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell had also become Republicans.
Could party-switching become contagious again? Specter's switch reduces the influence of Maine Republicans Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, who each voted for the stimulus package and who represent a state that went dramatically for Barack Obama in 2008. Once Al Franken is sworn in as the Dems' 60th vote (probably sometime in late summer), the administration will have less need for Collins and Snowe when it comes to getting around a filibuster. They'll just have to worry about keeping their own moderates in line.
In his statement on Specter's switch, Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, said he "welcomed" Specter's "moderate voice" to the Dems' "diverse caucus." That seems, by some lights, an open invitation to Specter's fellow moderates Collins and Snowe. They might find it more attractive to serve in the Senate as members of the Democrats' powerful "moderate" bloc instead of serving in an almost-powerless Republican minority that stands a good chance of losing members in 2010.
The big difference between the Maine senators and Specter, however, is that he faces an election next year. Snowe's term is up in 2012. Collins isn't up until 2014, but are either willing to spend more years in the shadows after having once served in the majority? The temptation to join the party in power might prove too strong.
(Kevin Drum has more.)






























Complete and utter B.S.
...Specter explained in a statement released today that it is because the GOP has shifted rightward ...
Complete B.S.
99% of our bought & paid for "representatives" in D.C. aren't bothered with political philosophies, nor do they feel obligated to pursue whatever political philosophy they played to during the election process. They're bothered by the prospect of a loss of their seat, and a loss of power, just as you suggested.
It's just another example of how little really separates the majority of the two parties. The DemoPublican and RepubliCrat mainstream inside the beltway are about .2 degrees away from each other on the political compass, so in the end, it really matters little to us which color tie they choose to put on.
It's Time To End The Era of Neocon Control of the GOP
Senator Specter’s acts of patriotism and courage prove that it is time to replace the Neocon GOP with a patriotic party that supports the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Military.
Spector
Yeah, but then what are you goping to do with the democrats?
Neocon Control
Surely it's time to replace the Neocon GOP with a party that supports the people...errr...wait a minute. It is already here and it's called the Democratic party.
One Party State
Just what America needs. A One-Party State, with a so-called "Opposition" Party that can be steam-rolled at every turn.
That's a dangerous situation, no matter how good you think the party in control is. It's a dangerous situation when Neocons "have their way" with America, and it's an equally dangerous situation when any other political group has it's way as well, because as Lord Acton astutely observed in 1887: Power tends to corrupt, and Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely".
...which for some reason brings to mind another gem of a quote from Daniel Webster:
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
Don't blame the Dems for doing something right for once.
One party rule MAY be dangerous but it's not the Dems fault that they're that party. If the GOP would shake loose from the stranglehold of the radical right maybe we'd have a viable opposition. Until then, I'm glad they're in the wilderness. The extreme right is a menace to a free society.
Say What?
Who said anything about blaming anyone? Or that our current edition of One-Party Rule was someone's "fault"?
It was a simple observation about how America has, in the past, been poorly served by having one party or the other in full control of the government, and it matters not which party it is. We figure to be just as poorly served by it this time. (See Lord Acton's observation, quoted above) ANY all-powerful group or "party" ends up being a menace to a free society. It's an immutable rule of nature, and was commented on by wise thinkers Centuries before America's Founding Fathers wrote on the matter.
Not just in America, but Any Place where you find one political party in control of the government, with no viable, opposing party, you'll find sufficient examples of why it's not a good thing for the people being "ruled", and often not a good thing for the people of other nations, to boot.
Easy, there.
You're taking my comment rather personally. I happen agree with you and I think Acton's dictum has been demonstrated to be quite true. However my response is still what do you want me to do about it? Am I supposed to vote GOP, whose policies I generally abhor with every fiber of my being, in order to keep a supermajority from occuring, or throw my vote away on some third party loser, or boycott an election when I actually agree with what the Dems are trying to do? If the Dems start to get dangerous and overplay their hand, as the GOP did in '06, I have no doubt that we'll hand them their sorry, goose-stepping dictatorial asses on a plate after the next free and mostly fair election.
Nope.
I never take anything personal that's said on an anonymous internet message board. Not even the vilest of ad hominem tirades.
Just commenting on your "don't blame", and "not their fault" remarks.
And exactly what good will it do to "hand them their sorry, goose-stepping dictatorial asses on a plate" if all we're really going to do is hand control over to the same, sorry goose-stepping asses we turned out the time before? Because that's all we ever seem to do.
You may be right
Relative shifts in power between two parties have recently been the pattern, but then it's always been the pattern. Look back at the founders. They vilified, pilloried and sometimes killed each other, but our republic has endured and indeed improved over time, slowly but inexorably. Our current leaders are just as honorable and as corrupt as were our founders but, for good as well as ill, our style of government has produced a vitally relevant nation, whose contributions to science and the arts rival those of the greatest civilizations. We have problems but we have many more virtues.
My point is that our leaders think they are playing for their team, even if we know both teams are all one. Thinking their team might lose keeps them relatively honest and keeps we-the-people in ultimate control once things get so jacked up we can't take it anymore.
rational opposition
I agree that one-party rule is problematic, but what we need is a rational and loyal opposition. We have had neither. Maybe if the Republicans can recreate themselves as such, things will achieve a balance once again. Given the their reactions to Specter's defection, though, it looks like this will be a long time coming. In any event, the current democratic party actually is a lot like two parties. The progressives are typical of most Dems overs the past 70 years and the blue dogs are pretty much what most Republicans were like before the Reagan era. They might be technically one party, but this is not going to be a left-wing dictatorship by any means.
Totally agree...
with They're All DemoPublicans and GVC. Specter only acted for his own political life and this had nothing to do with philosophy. In other words, the same thing that drives 99% of the politicos, our Prez included, from acting how they do. Now don't bash me as an Obama hater. I voted for the man, but only because he was the lesser of two evils, as usual. If this economic disaster had occurred one year sooner we would all be calling Ron Paul Mr. President since he is the only one who predicted our economy to be exactly where it is today.
WRONG
Byron Dorgan predicted the economic demise 10 years ago,not Ron Paul. google it if you don't believe me! And you can say what you want but Bush destroyed this country and Obama was the better choice over McCain. SORRY REPUBS!
Ron Paul, Texas Straight Talk
Ron Paul - 1998: Deceptive Economic Euphoria
Ron Paul - 1998: Economic Crisis Looms
Ron Paul - 1999: A New Pandora's Box: Government invest in market must be opposed
Ron Paul - 1999: The Big Lie: Budget surplus is a fiction
Ron Paul - 2000: Greenspan Nominated to a Fourth Term: How Long Can "Business as Usual" Last?
I'm afraid Dr. Paul has a long track record of being right about this mess. There's much more, as you can see for yourself by browsing here: Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk Archive
Just for the heck of it...
A few more:
Ron Paul - 2001: The FED cannot create prosperity
Ron Paul - 2002: The Truth About Government Debt
Ron Paul - 2002: Congress Spends, Future Generations Pay The Bills
Ron Paul - 2002: Does Government Run The Economy?
Ron Paul - 2003: Government Policy and False Prosperity
Ron Paul - 2003: Economic Woes Begin At Home
Ron Paul - 2004: Spending And Lying
Ron Paul - 2004: Greenspan's Black Magic
Ron Paul - 2004: The Federal Reserve Debt Engine
And this little gem, dealing directly with the mortgage crisis that nobody else seemed to have a clue was shaping up:
Ron Paul - 2004: Zero Down For The American Dream
Repaired Links
Ron Paul - 1998: Economic Crisis Looms
Ron Paul - 2002: Does Government Run The Economy?
A dishonest article
Jim Jeffords didn't make a 'principled decision' not to run for re-election. The man had Alzheimer's for God's sake.
Arlen Specter... No Rubber Stamp!
Re: "I will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience..." Even though I often disagree with Arlen Specter, his decisions are based on the facts, common sense and The Constitution, not party line emotion. Hopefully, he will continue to be an independent voice of reason for ALL Americans.
Hmmm... www.jpinsatx.newsvine.com/
Two parties?
We have two parties in the United States- A far left, pseudo Socialist party (the Dems) and a centrist, "me too" party (the Reps) We have no conservative party.
Re: Two Parties?
You could not be further off the mark. We live in a corporate state, much more akin to fascism than socialism -- look them both up. Mussolini said it most succinctly: "Fascism would be better called Corporatism, because it is the perfect union of state and corporate power." America has lurched so far to the right that what Clinton represented would have been Republican thirty years earlier. We have one party, which goes by two names: The Dems (the "don't hate me" party) and the Repugnicans (the "anything I can steal is mine" party). It bows to Wall Street, the Military Industrial Complex (as the last real Republican warned us it would), and corporate giants like Big Oil, Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Agriculture.
You're such a blind idiot!!!
You're such a blind idiot!!! Hasn't Obama given in completely to Wall Street?
Two parties?
"A far left, pseudo Socialist party (the Dems) and a centrist, "me too" party (the Reps)"
Whoa! Can you tell me what do you mean by 'far left' and 'Socialist' here? Like which model of government: Norway? Soviet Union? North Korea? Or all of the above?
Because I don't think you have the slightest idea what the word really means.
I am a centrist. I know
I am a centrist. I know centrists. Centrists are my friends. The current Republican Party is no centrist party.
Two Parties? Repubs Centrist?? You've got to be joking!
"We have two parties in the United States- A far left, pseudo Socialist party (the Dems) and a centrist, "me too" party (the Reps) We have no conservative party".
I'm an ex-USAmerican now living (and loving it) in Socialist Spain (at least that is our government now, which has given us lowly homos our complete and total equal rights) and the European Union, which I and many others believe is the future if the world is to advance at all beyond the neo-colonialism of the Corporate Capitalism of the US of A and its militarism and Vulture Economics. Socialism is one of the major political parties/movements in Europe and has been the impetus for Europe being the humane, democratic, and progressive place it is today (even many Conservatives concede this). Your Democratic Party is NOT Socialist (would that it were, you'd be a better place for it).
In Europe the Democratic Party of the US would be a left of center party at best, and your Republican Party in its guise today would be considered a far right/extemist party that the European Conservatives would have absolutely nothing to do with, as is the case with some of the radical right parties who occupy a few seats in the EU Parliament and are boycotted by everyone else, including said Conservatives. You would have a hard time finding a European Conservative (except the far-right Thatcherites in the UK whose ideas of trickle down Reaganomics have been proven failures just as your own ReichsWingNuts' economics have) who would not support universal health care and civil rights and protections for all, including gay people. And after nearly 2000 years of burnings at the stake, Inquisitions, corruption, intolerance, pogroms and support by the clergy of Fascist Dictators, even European Conservatives take their religion a little less seriously than your Reicshwing Repubs. There is just no comparison.
The Conservative/Peoples' Party has a majority in the EU Parliament (unfortunately, since they have fallen for the "Big Lie" of Globalization and have been caught with their pants down over deregulation and free market vulture capitalism, which many of them are backpedalling very quickly on now) yet the EU is still the leader in the world on human rights and civil rights and received a positive rating in a worldwide poll that saw the majority of people say the US of A was the greatest threat to world peace on earth. Even with a Conservative majority the EU sponsored a UN proposal to ban persecution of homosexual people worldwide last December, which was voted against by all the usual subjects (Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, et al) AND the US of A.
My point here is these are Conservatives in Europe compared to your US far right extremists passing themselves off as Conservatives and the really scarey thing is is that nobody in the US is laughing!? Your Republicans with their hate, radical capitalism, militarism, corporate welfare, Social Darwinism and rabid Nationalism make people here in more progressive Europe very uncomfortable - including EU Conservatives. Many of them remember when these very Republican ideas were last turned loose over here - it was called Fascism and it caused devastation. Europe has learned from this, but apparently the US learned nothing.
And if you think the GOP (Greedy Old Puritans) are Centrists and you're farther to the right than they are, you are a truly frightening person.
ARE YOU ON DRUGS?
ARLEN SPECTOR a born-again Dem-o-matic Liberal?
seriously?
puh-leeze.
gee... has he got a MAGIC BULLET formula on Democratic Reforms, perhaps??
Mr.Spector knows where the bread gets buttered... somewhere in the neighbourhood of Joseph Lieberman
look people, if you can't see that Spector is drilling down into the same party influence for corruption that Lieberman provided for years & years...
...then you're just really trying FAR TOO HARD to find a reason to bugle the triumph of Democrats
AT&T funded the Denver DNC.
you don't hear much about THAT either, now do you?
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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"... tolerance of intolerance is cowardice..." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
"We, two, form a Multitude" ~ Ovid.
"Violence can only be concealed by a Lie, & the Lie can only be maintained by Violence." ... "Any man, who has once proclaimed Violence as his Meth
You're missing the point
Nobody is saying Specter is 'born-again'. What happened here is Specter still thinks for himself. Yes, I think all would agree that he is protecting his career, but he is also well-known for his independence, something today's GOP is obviously lacking. If Specter were as far-right as the rest of the party is drifting, he wouldn't HAVE to defect. However, he's a center-right moderate and there is no place in the GOP for moderates. I predict that he will handily defeat the anti-tax extremist Toomey in the general. And he should. We're not bugling the triumph of the Dems, we're pointing out the implosion of the GOP.
WormTongue voted down the HealthCare budget
I can't believe the crap liberals swallow to keep 'hope' alive.
The *corrupt money & power* spends a lot of time with the GOP... but you're nuts if you think that crowing about their demise is any good use of time.
THE MONEY WILL CHASE DOWN THE POWER, & the POWER WILL CHASE DOWN LIBERAL PROGRESS.
spend your time productively, not dancing around the "Bonfire of the Vanities".
You'd be better off looking at the sickening history of 'The Spector': from his associations with Alito, the 'Magic Bullet' theory, to all the garbage that man has undertaken for his corporate OverLords & his apparent meteoric ability to raise increasingly larger sums of funding...
"SWINE" flu pandemic, indeed.
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"Specter’s first vote as a Democrat: No on Obama’s budget.": Think Progress
"In a 53-to-43 vote tonight, the Senate followed the House in passing President Obama's budget. Not a single Republican voted in favor of the budget resolution, but a number of key Democrats including Sens. Evan Bayh (IN), Robert Byrd (WV), Ben Nelson (NE), and most notably Arlen Specter (PA) voted against it. Just yesterday, Specter reportedly said to Obama, "I'm a loyal Democrat. I support your agenda."
The budget resolution that passed tonight allowed for health care reform to be implemented using the budget reconciliation process, which Specter expressed his opposition to yesterday."
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Budget vote shows Specter's party switch isn't a lock
By J. Scott Applewhite, AP
...
"Now with Specter as a Democrat, the party hopes to rely on 59 votes. They could hit 60 this year if Al Franken wins the Minnesota race. Franken is ahead, but the state's highest court is considering a challenge to the results.
Specter, a five-term senator known as a contrarian, appeared with Obama on Wednesday — a day after he announced he has switched parties and will seek re-election as a Democrat in 2010. He said he will help advance Democratic policies but also cautioned: "I will not be an automatic 60th vote."
Emory University political scientist Randall Strahan said it is a mistake to believe that Specter will help "produce a solid filibuster-proof majority in the Senate that will support all the initiatives of the administration." ..."
DON'T YOU FIND IT WEIRD that EVERYTIME the Dems get close to that 60%, ...somebody can't get their ELECTION certified,
...somebody needs an 'emergency lobotomy',
...or there is a CLOSET REPUBLICAN throwing their weight around the Democratic Party?
The quickest way to ensure the PARTY DOES AS CORPORATIONS & CORRUPTION DEMANDS, is to INFECT IT FROM THE INSIDE.
Go watch "Survivor" if you can't figure this out.
wake up.
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"... tolerance of intolerance is cowardice..." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
"We, two, form a Multitude" ~ Ovid.
"Violence can only be concealed by a Lie, & the Lie can only be maintained by Violence." ... "Any man, who has once proclaimed Violence as his Meth
Switching from Republican to
Switching from Republican to Democrat is just like switching football teams: All you have to do is change jerseys and do what the coach says.
Spector switch
Personally, I am really excited about Spector's switch. I hope that this means furthering the ideals of Obama including national healthcare, support for higher education, and a return of scientific research. I am normally a complete skeptic of the government; however, it is my belief that Obama is as close to perfect as they come. I hope that in his second four year term he is brave enough to at least federally legalize some sort of union between gay couples. How can we complain when all we have seen are pointless wars, social discrimination sanctioned by the law, a growing economic divide that has gotten increasingly harder to overcome, and an unwillingness to cooperate with the rest of the world? Sure, I would like to see Kucinich as our Prez, but Obama is far from the lesser of two evils- he is the best electable politician we could have hoped for.
Obama-Blinders
Take the blinders off!
Courtesy of AntiWar.com
...many Americans actually believed Obama shared their opposition to Bush’s wars. In fact, he had repeatedly backed Bush’s warmongering and its congressional funding. Many Americans also believed he was the heir to Martin Luther King’s legacy of anti-colonialism. Yet if Obama had a theme at all, apart from the vacuous "change you can believe in," it was the renewal of America as a dominant, avaricious bully. "We will be the most powerful!" he declared.
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In his first 100 days, Obama has excused torture, opposed habeas corpus, and demanded more secret government. He has kept Bush’s gulag intact and at least 17,000 prisoners beyond the reach of justice. On April 24, his lawyers won an appeal that ruled Guantanamo prisoners were not "persons" and therefore had no right not to be tortured. His national intelligence director, Adm. Dennis Blair, says he believes torture works. One of his senior officials in Latin America is accused of covering up the torture of an American nun in Guatemala; another is a Pinochet apologist. As Daniel Ellsberg has pointed out, America experienced a military coup under Bush, whose secretary of "defense," Robert Gates, along with the same warmaking officials, have been retained by Obama.
All over the world, America’s violent assault on innocent people, directly or by agents, has been stepped up. During the recent massacre in Gaza, reports Seymour Hersh, "the Obama team let it be known that it would not object to the planned resupply of ’smart bombs’ and other high-tech ordnance that was already flowing to Israel" and being used to slaughter mostly women and children. In Pakistan, the number of civilians killed by American missiles called drones has more than doubled since Obama took office.
In Afghanistan, the U.S. "strategy" of killing Pashtun tribespeople (the "Taliban") has been extended by Obama to give the Pentagon time to build a series of permanent bases right across the devastated country where, says Secretary Gates, the U.S. military will remain indefinitely. Obama’s policy, one unchanged since the Cold War, is to intimidate Russia and China, now an imperial rival. He is proceeding with Bush’s provocation of placing missiles on Russia’s western border, lying that they are a counter to Iran, which he accuses, absurdly, of posing "a real threat" to Europe and the U.S. On April 5, in Prague, he made a speech reported as "anti-nuclear." It was nothing of the kind. Under the Pentagon’s Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW) program, the U.S. is building new "tactical" nuclear weapons designed to blur the distinction between nuclear and conventional war.
Perhaps the biggest lie – the equivalent of smoking is good for you – is Obama’s announcement that the U.S. is leaving Iraq, the country it has reduced to a river of blood. According to unabashed U.S. Army planners, as many as 70,000 troops will remain "for the next 15 to 20 years." On April 25, his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, alluded to this. It is not surprising that the polls are showing that a growing number of Americans believe they have been suckered – especially as the nation’s economy has been entrusted to the same fraudsters who destroyed it. Lawrence Summers, Obama’s principal economic adviser, is throwing $3 trillion at the same banks that paid him more than $8 million last year, including $135,000 for one speech. Change you can believe in.
blinders?
I am totally aware that the US has a history and has been a global bully, but would Mccain have been a better choice? Who better to clean up Bush's blitzkrieg? It is not going to be global peace in 100 days, why would you expect it to be?
Yes, Blinders.
...would Mccain have been a better choice?
Nope. And I didn't vote for either Bush-Clone OR Bush-Lite, myself.
I voted for real change from the DemoPublican/RepubliCrat Status-Quo, Not Just Window-Dressing.
Who better to clean up Bush's blitzkrieg?
Somebody who'd actually DO IT, and not build on it.
It is not going to be global peace in 100 days, why would you expect it to be?
Global Peace in my lifetime would come as a shock, and I never expect to see it.
Did you expect to see Obama's administration actually continuing and ramping up Bush's interventionist, militaristic policies? Because that IS what you're seeing, though you're steadfastly refusing to allow your brain to ingest the knowledge.
that is how bush ended up in office in the first place
The mentality that boycotting voting would actually make any sort of difference and that maybe an ideal candidate would emerge victorious someday is exactly the mentality that got Bush into office. In 2004 I also thought I would vote according to principles and not according to a candidate's ability to get elected. I did not vote for either Bush or Kerry. I regretted that decision for the next for years as I saw almost a million Iraqi civilians die, not to mention the people who died in Afghanistan and countless other secret wars. I never assumed during this election cycle that Obama was making a stand for world peace. Which is something I believe in, whatever the consequence is. Obama also never said he was going to impose world peace either. He has stayed true to what he campaigned. I do not feel duped because I knew exactly what I was voting for. I was voting for someone out of all possible electable politicians in our corrupt system was the best choice. I believe that in Obama's heart he would love to have world peace. He is intelligent enough though to know that he must make a positive difference in America's future- and this means getting elected.
Yes, Blinders!
A: Where did anyone, other than you, say anything about "boycotting" an election?
B: Why do you make such assumptions?
C: The mentality that "We've got to pick the lesser of the two evils offered by the One-Party-Which-Claims-To-Be-Two" is what keeps us going from bad to worse, with the next administration retaining, and expanding on all the bad things done by the previous administration. Just like this one is doing.
We can either see, and admit the error of our ways. Vote in increasing numbers for a real agent of Change, or we can keep letting the Big Two infect the election process with "Fear of The OTHER Guy", which keeps them in power, and us continuously wishing for change.
If you want to continue getting what we've been getting, then just continue doing what you've been doing, and espousing what you've been espousing. The Oligarchy loves it when you do!
Thank yourself for the continuation and expansion of Bush's interventionist policies.
I actually voted AGAINST it.
He has stayed true to what he campaigned.
Like "Getting us out of Iraq", when it's now our policy to keep tens of thousands of troops there for decades to come?
Or like he promised when he originally ran for US Senate: "At some point, you've got to say NO to George Bush's war funding." Then went on to vote in favor of every war funding bill that came before the Senate after he was in office?
Yes, Blinders!
You effectively boycotted this election
A: Obama was still a better choice than McCain, who ran a disgusting, hate-filled campaign, and whose election could very well have given us Palin for Prez.
B: I don't know about you but Palin scares the shit out of me.
C: Whomever you voted for had no chance of winning. You threw your vote away. You might as well have stayed home for all the good you did the world.
The Only Vote That Matters Is About Principles, Not Electability
I'd have thrown my vote away if I'd have voted for someone who I believed was not the best available man for the job, just because the media said the best guy "couldn't win".
That "candidate who can win" crap, from the media and the two wings of our ruling party is what keeps us, election after election, buying their "lowest common denominator" offering. We should ratherbe showing them that we expect better, demand better, and will no longer buy "electable" over "principled and desirable".
It's why many fiscal conservatives and libertarian-leaning independents who didn't like Bush allowed themselves to be convinced to vote for him... twice, and that's why many liberals and Green-leaning independents who were uncomfortable with Gore/Kerry/Obama for a variety of reasons, voted for them anyway. And that's why we keep getting candidates few people are actually comfortable with.
The two wings of the one party make sure that any candidates who actually stand for something, and have a voting record to back it up, get buried and ignored, and that their media pals make sure the public gets convinced that they are "not electable". (See Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich for examples).
But still...
Like it or not we live in a two-party system and the stakes were extremely high, even more so than in '04 (and look what happened then). However much you might wish for a different world, this is the one we live in and one has to be pragmatic. I personally think Kucinich is a stand-up guy, and has mostly good ideas. Unfortunately, he has zero chance of being elected President of these United States.
Pragmatism? Or Action?
However much you might wish for a different world, this is the one we live in and one has to be pragmatic.
Had Gandhi followed such logic, India would still be a British Colony.
Same could be said for America's Founders.
They actually took positive action to make the world different.
I personally think Kucinich is a stand-up guy, and has mostly good ideas. Unfortunately, he has zero chance of being elected President of these United States.
As he will continue to have, as long as those who think he's probably the best the party has to offer fear to get out and really support him, buckling to the old "Fear Factor" pressed by the party's leadership, as they tell us we've got to back "Mr. or Ms. Electable" instead, or "we're all gonna' die!".
Completely different circumstances
Our present circumstances do not compare to those of our founders and Colonial India. We are not under foreign occupation and we are not being oppressed except by our own apathy.
I'm not going to argue with your last statement except to say that in this election I really did think Obama was the man for the job, the only man. And I know this is when I get called 'Kool-Aid drinker' but I think that so far he's done pretty much what he said he was going to try to do, and has been fairly forthcoming with exactly how he's doing it. I respect that.
"ITS A BINARY CHOICE!!!"
oh puhleeeze!
Kucinich?
McKinney?
Nader?
ALL OF THEM SPORTED BETTER PLATFORMS, but everybody yoweled,
"but Obama doesn't NEED A GOOD PLATFORM, he just needs to be unRepublican, Black, & Liberal enough to make McCain look bad"
...maybe *implementing MORE OF THOSE platforms might have been CHANGE*
McCain shot himself in the foot, while nailing the other to the Floor.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TIME to actually FORCE OBAMA to the platforms the US needs & for which the WORLD has been waiting (we're utterly sick of being abused)
...a JOB INTERVIEW is no time to get particular with a stated political platform!
hell no!!
meanwhile, AT&T funded the DNC'08.
ENJOY!
you got EXACTLY what you wanted: someone who will do the bare minimum to keep Corporate Abusers from shooting themselves in the foot while enslaving the Globe.
Two global economic meltdowns in under a Century & a foreign policy that **throws its weight around to abuse every other nation & species on the Globe**
gee, thanks.
we're so happy that ARLEN is around to prove to Dems & Repubs that Obama was the 'right guy'.
I'm simply grateful that Obama *admitted* that the US is responsible for the misery & death that will come of a culture of narcissism, greed & consumption.
...now can you stop kicking us to death & demanding we love you for it?
I wouldn't mind my privacies back, either.
you didn't think the US was ONLY abusing the Human Rights of Americans, did you?
I find it interesting that China has been dumping MASSIVE funding into Africa to gain trust, influence & AFRICAN RESOURCES.
Personally, the idea that the US can provide a black president seems to be a natural 'see, the Chinese don't understand you like we do!' chess move by Corporate America.
perhaps, Obama came along at the right time... but not necessarily for work-a-day Americans.
Obama's 'change' looks a lot like... the same crap that the US sported before Bush.
yeah, that's wonderful.
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"... tolerance of intolerance is cowardice..." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
"We, two, form a Multitude" ~ Ovid.
"Violence can only be concealed by a Lie, & the Lie can only be maintained by Violence." ... "Any man, who has once proclaimed Violence as his Method, is inevitably forced to take the Lie as his Principle" – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
Jump now, ladies.
Sens. Snowe and Collins should switch to the Democrat Party now, or face the prospect of being shackled to a ship whose deluded and intransigent captain insists on racing full steam into the iceberg.
Quickly. The lifeboat awaits.
An Oasis in the Desert
No way that Snowe or Collins will switch parties -- at least until just before their election years and only then if they face a similar political landscape as Specter. Specter made it clear that it was nothing personal, just political survival. Unless Snowe or Collins re-election is threatened, forget about it.
Key Point:
Most available polling indicates that the moderate Specter would be trounced in the 2010 Republican primary by a conservative challenger named Pat Toomey.
That's the story in a nutshell.
It's not about ideologies, Right vs. Left party positions or anything else.
It's about retaining a position among the powerful.
A. Specter
I will not vote for Specter, I resent the fact that the Democratic Party will support Specter instead of a real democrat. Specter is thinking of no one but Specter and any self respecting democrat in Pennsylvania is a fool, to vote for him. Wake up Dems, Specter will be the same self-serving senator as a democrat as he was a republican.
Don't forget the confirmation hearings for Roberts and Alito and how he tried and in some cases succeeded in stifling and frustrating Ted Kennedy.
Don't forget that he voted for the Iraq war.
Don't forget how he supported and defended the Bush/Cheney administration.
Don't fall for this trick.
Lighten up.
Don't forget that Specter still has to win the primary for the Dems to get behind him. We have memories. Right now, it's savory and sweet all at the same time. Regardless of what happens, that seat is not going back to the GOP anytime soon.
Heard that one before
["Regardless of what happens, that seat is not going back to the GOP anytime soon."]
That's just what we thought about the Whitehouse, after Agnew and then Nixon had to resign amid massive scandals and in disgrace.
It only took 4 years for the Democrats to disprove the theory.
Not worried.
Yes, Carter as a president was ineffectual. However, Obama is hardly Carter and this is not the 70s. A majority of people now understand we live in an interconnected world and that our personal success depends not on divisiveness and confrontation but on cooperation and dialog. Until the GOP gets its head around this newsflash I think the PA congressional seats are safely Democratic; only 4 of 21 are GOP, a one point drop from Tuesday.
Obama is Carter
let's see. Carter: the smartest prez ever, just go back and read the press that he got. Carter, Grow government, embrace radical islam and china, while ignoring taiwan, and stiffling israel. Sounds a lot like obama, but with the more focused eyes of history on him. Can someone get me some of that koolaide that the country is drinking? I need it. I live in California, 11.2% unemployment and growing, tax hikes already, and more to come. Please, i need that koolaide. Pelosi and Obama, Feinstein for Sec State... Did I mention that i need some koolaide?>
Once again...
You obviously need something.
You live in California, under a Republican governor, and, until recently, a Republican president and Congress. Exactly how are your state's problems the fault of Obama the new Democratic majority again? You're a voter. I'd say it's on you. Do something about it if you can get a majority of people to believe you. Your problem right now is that a majority of them do not, based on the increase in people who now think the US is doing the right thing.
History Lesson:
1. Nixon went to China, not Carter.
2. Ignoring Taiwan has been US policy across administrations since that trip and as our two countries grow ever closer economically.
3. Carter made the mistake of allowing the Shah of Iran into the US after his ouster and the imposition of theocracy there. He took in a relative moderate and sparked radicalism, an unfortunate outcome. He also authorized the CIA to arm and train the mujahideen against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. The rise of radicalism there followed when Reagan, and, to a lesser extent, Bush and Clinton failed to help rebuild Afghan society after the withdrawal of Soviet troops and abject poverty gripped the nation. I've already admitted that Carter was not one of our better presidents but your assertion that he "embraced radical Islam" is flat wrong.
4. The religious right of Israel, along with Hamas, is preventing the resumption of negotiations for a peace settlement that could remove the heat from many conflicts around the world. Both sides need to stand down and the US only has influence over one of them at this point, as the Palestinian Authority has already accepted the broad outlines of an agreement. Carter attempted to make peace, and succeeded with Sadat and Begin. Obama is working towards the same goal. Peace is a worthwhile pursuit and I support any attempt to bring it about.
Don't forget.........
While you're mentioning California elected officials, don't forget the biggest cheese of them all - Ahhhhnold who embraced and campaigned for Dubya and has been a proponent of the very rightwing/conservative/Reaganomics/TrickleDownCrap that is a miserable failure (except for the top 1% of the population who have made out like the bandits they really are these past 30 years) and has led the whole world to the brink of economic collapse.
You ReichsWingNuts just can't seem to admit you blew it and big time! So repent, apologize to those you've harmed and try to live just one day at a time without harming the majority of people anymore.