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Counting the dead in Iraq

For the first time, George W. Bush has announced to the American people the approximate number of Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the war. 30,000, more or less, is the number he used, and that number is certainly enough to provide reason to grieve for the families of the victims, and for the nation at large. But is 30,000 an accurate number? Many do not think so.

The Lancet Study, conducted by the medical journal and led by a staff member of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, extrapolated a total of approximately 100,000 dead from its research. Last fall, when the Lancet Study was published, another group, Iraq Body Count, put the estimate at around 15,000, and today, its website indicates a maximum number of 30,892. Iraq Body Count is composed of activists and academicians, and is a respected group.

The Lancet study has been criticized for including all "excess deaths," from illness and accident. A larger criticism was that the researchers drew heavily on the population of war-ravaged Falluja, thereby spiking the projected numbers beyond reason. On the other hand, the Iraq Body Count study, which requires a death to be overtly connected to war violence, uses a death count only if it has been confirmed by two independent news organizations. The Iraq Body Count group acknowledges that many, if not most, of the deaths go unreported by the media, and therefore the actual number of Iraqi dead is likely to be much higher than what it is reporting.

Though we do not know--and will most likely never know--the number of Iraqi civilians who have died in the war, it seems clear that the current number of 30,000 is inaccurate, and perhaps very inaccurate. General Tommy Franks' now famous statement, "We don't do body counts," has turned out to be true in more ways than one. Not only do we not have an accurate count, but--more significant, perhaps--the American news media does not even talk about the deaths of Iraqi civilians. Anti-war rhetoric also often excludes Iraqi civilian deaths, and concentrates only on the deaths of American soldiers. To complicate matters even more, there is the additional task of figuring which of the Iraqi casualities are the result of action by U.S. forces, and which are the result of the activities of insurgents.

It will be interesting to see what kind of public discussion Bush's statement on 30,000 deaths produces.

Posted by Diane E. Dees on 12/13/05 at 6:41 AM | E-mail | Print | Digg this | de.licio.us



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Actually, Diane, the Lancet study excluded their Fallujah data, in part because they were worried it would lend ammunition to critics who would claim that it would throw the entire study out of kilter. If they had used the Fallujah data, the estimated would have been twice as high.

See page 5 of the original article here.
http://www.zmag.org/lancet.pdf

This American Life had a fantastic episode discussing the methodology of the study.
http://thislife.org/ra/300.ram

Posted by: Clint Hendler on 12/13/05 at 8:36 AM

My understanding was that it was included and then later taken out, but I may have understood that wrong when I first read about it. Thanks, Clint.

Posted by: Diane on 12/13/05 at 9:06 AM

fallujah numbers were always excluded, and this was discussed at the start of the summary. There was so much negative criticism of the study in the US, that propoganda ruled over facts, as usual.

Posted by: Graham on 12/13/05 at 10:16 PM

It is a bit, or more than a bit, sad to see that even in a publication like Mother Jones the Lancet study is misquoted or misunderstood. It implicates that very few journalists bother to go to the original sources. The Lancet study was, at the time, the only comprehensive study of Iraqi deaths which concluded that as a conservative estimate there were 98,000 excess deaths due to the invasion, the majority of which were caused by violence, and of those military action by coalition forces was primarily responsible. In the lazy/sleazy/ignorant/careless (take your pick) media, this turned to a bloated maximum. This is not only in the US, the Finnish media does it too.

Posted by: Jorma Penttinen on 12/14/05 at 1:09 AM

Though I personally think the Lancet study reflected sound research techniques, the criticisms of the Lancet Study were many and varied, and therefore merit mentioning.

Posted by: Diane on 12/14/05 at 6:12 AM

The critcisms of the Lancet study were a campaign similar to the one used in the global warming debate. Scientists evaluating the data come to a consistant and essentially unanimous consensus and then individuals with an agenda raise false criticisms that get equal voice from "balanced" journalists. Lila Guterman at CJR (http://www.cjr.org/issues/2005/2/voices-guterman.asp) discussed how this important story was ignored by our media and the sloppiness involved in the reporting. The reality is that the Lancet numbers are the only serious attempt to determine casualties. 30,000 is a number that is now floating in the media, but a more correct estimate is probably 50-60,000 civilians (the Lancet study includes police, military, etc.).

Posted by: burge on 12/14/05 at 7:05 AM

>>the criticisms of the Lancet Study were many and varied <<

And, Diane, were any of them valid? Burge has an excellent point, and easily Googleable Deltoid http://timlambert.org/category/lancetiraq/
[HTML in comments would help] found issue with most - if not all - of the criticisms.

But keep up the good work. Not a criticism of the body of your work.

Best,

D

Posted by: Dano on 12/14/05 at 3:53 PM

Another point about the Lancet study that hasn't been noted in comments yet: the 100,000 number was their *upper bound*. The lower bound was 8,000. I don't remember what they said was the best estimate of the actual number. I think it was around 30,000 at the time, when Iraq Body Count had tallied some 17,000. Remember that Iraq Body Count uses only actual data from hospital records, eyewitness accounts, media reports, and the like. Lots of people die in wars without calling someone up about it. The Lancet study was trying to estimate the scope of excess deaths post-Saddam. It stands to reason that number would have to be higher than Iraq Body Counts conservative numbers.

Posted by: quixote on 12/16/05 at 8:38 PM

I would be interested to know the number of people Saddam Hussein killed every year, vs. how many the U.S. is responsible for killing. Do you think he killed 30,000 people over a 2 or 3 year period? Who knows, but I doubt it. (And I'm using the conservative figure, not the 100,000 number the Lancet suggests.)

Posted by: David Miller on 12/17/05 at 2:39 AM

Iraq Body Count totals up the number of dead reported in the media -- including Iraqi media, I guess. They themselves take pains to emphasize that this must result in a severe undercount. Doubling their high-end estimate doesn't seem at all unreasonable.

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