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What Fiscal Conservatism Means

Andrew Sullivan has been arguing for the past few days that, just because Bush has failed to make sweeping budget cuts during his time in office, doesn't mean that small-government fiscal conservatism has been discredited as an ideology. Strictly speaking, that's accurate, I guess, although I'd like to see more people start discrediting fiscal conservatism, because if a Republican ever came to power who was more willing to cut government programs than George W. Bush, it would be catastrophic.

Just to get beyond numbers here, Rose Aguilar has a good piece in Alternet today that does some reporting on what many of the government discretionary programs that pundits like Sullivan want to cut actually mean for real-life people. Here's an example:

Every month, 80-year-old Sally Shaver pays someone to drive her to the Harvest Hope Food Bank in Columbia, S.C., to pick up a box of fresh produce, baked goods, dry cereals, juice, canned goods and cheese. "It really helps me out because after paying for my rent, phone bill and medication, I barely have enough for food," she says. "If I could work, I would, but I have an artificial knee and a pacemaker, and I can't get around.

Shaver, who worked as a nurse's aide for most of her life, brings in $451 a month in social security. Her fixed income qualifies her for the Commodity Supplemental Food Program (CSFP), which is designed to improve the health and nutrition of low-income senior citizens, pregnant women, postpartum mothers, infants and children.

Last year, CSFP provided 536,196 people with a monthly box of food. Bush's proposed budget for 2007 calls for a nationwide elimination of the entire program.

Now from reading Sullivan's recent posts, I take it his brand of "fiscal conservatism" would preserve all the "good" programs for the poor—perhaps like the one above—while cutting all the "bad" stuff, like agricultural subsidies and corporate welfare and entitlements for the middle class and the like. ("[T]he bottom line," writes Sullivan, "is that the middle class and the prosperous elderly are far too pampered by government in this country.")

That's all well and good in theory—I'd love to see corporate welfare ended, too—but in practice, when "fiscal conservatives" come to power, it's only programs like the CSFP that ever get put on the chopping block, partly because 80-year-old Sally Shaver doesn't have an army of lobbyists working in D.C. That's how fiscal conservatives are always going to operate—cut programs for the poor while keeping their grip on power by catering to business interests. There's no "magical" fiscal conservatism that will somehow get voted into office someday and do all the things Sullivan would like to see.

Posted by Bradford Plumer on 03/22/06 at 2:43 PM | E-mail | Print



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I think you're unintentionally using a straw-man argument here... You could pretty much do a search-and-replace to take "fiscal conservative" to "social liberal," and you'd have crafted just as tight an argument against a side I suspect you agree with much more.

I think the problem here is not that one or the other of these broad movements is somehow deeply flawed, but rather that the government today is structurally biased against any but the largest, most short-sighted concentrations of power. Most of the folks I know who would describe themselves using either the label "fiscal conservative" or "social liberal" tend to have nothing but disdain for the opposing side, despite the fact that both have a common interest --- restructuring government such that their voices can be better heard. (Actually, I think that their goals are largely compatible, but that's another story.)

It saddens me that there is less cooperation on this front, since the real enemy here is the concentration of power in the hands of the few, and the corruption and ignorance it engenders..

Posted by: Nathan Acks on 03/22/06 at 4:39 PM

Let's get something straight here: fiscal conservative hardly equals bad. It simply means being responsible with the money that we do have. Or, rather, it should. We also need to clarify what KIND of corporate welfare we're talking about here. Are we talking about the kind of corporate welfare that allows Wal-Mart to open up a store without paying property taxes for 5-10 years? You're right, that's bad. Or are we talking about a corporate bailout that allows thousands to keep working, who otherwise would be put on the dole looking for government assistance in the form of subsidized housing, food stamps, medicaid and a host of other government programs which will drain us more in the long run?

Also, the idea of tax breaks for companies attempting to go green is a great idea, especially if that's the final push that allows these companies to be environmentally friendly.

I say let's be financially conservative and wipe out ridiculous programs like the helium reclamation program ($7 billion at last count), the marriage initiative ($1.5 billion) and other such pointless programs that do nothing to make this country great. I say let's be fiscally conservative and wipe out pointless pork projects like the bridge to nowhere, and spend that on REAL welfare reform. Like the kind where we teach a man to fish instead of giving him fish, and tie welfare payments directly to children's school performance. Let's make the poor strive to not be poor anymore instead of just expecting the unattainable. If companies in this country are expecting bachelor's degrees just to get in the door, shouldn't we be making public college educations free so that we're not saddling our future generations with debt before they even get into the workforce?

If fiscal conservatism truly equals fiscal responsibility, then we really have no other choice but to implement plans like these.

Okay, I'm done ranting now.

Posted by: paul on 03/22/06 at 5:50 PM

The longer we wait on chopping 30-40 percent ACROSS-THE-BOARD in federal spending, the worse it's gonna hurt when they finally decide they HAVE to do it. Right now, it's elective surgery, the longer they wait the more likely it'll be a life-saving amputation as with a gangrenous limb.
Even at that rate, it may be too late, in my view, and right now we're faced with a Congress That Can't Say No, having wilfully submitted their signatures on a debt increase to the lofty sum of some $9 trillion dollars in red ink. Divide your 9 trillion by the 280-some-odd million people that live in america: That's about 30 grand per person, including granny, there.

We know where the pork is going, but who's going to bell the cat, who's going to call down the Pentagon as a tax dollar black hole? Bluntly spoken, granny's ALREADY been cut, she's 2 steps from living in the street so some fat lifer can get a bonus check. The pentagon is going to have to get involved in the budget-cutting necessary to bring things back into balance, but to hurdle that obstacle first there's going to have to be an open discussion on corruption in Congress, and good luck on that one...

Posted by: Bert on 03/24/06 at 12:33 PM

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