War is generally unpleasant. We have a choice: Either fight the war in the Middle East or fight it in the U.S., because they will come here (again).

Actually, they have us right where they want us. We are spending billions of dollars we do not have. Ten years in Iraq and Afghanistan will do to us what ten years in Afghanistan did to the Soviet Union. China now owns your children because of our national debt.

Steve, do you think we're actually winning? Do you think we're preventing future attacks?

I don't think you understand the level of "threat" that "they" pose to us. The answer: virtually none. You will die from cancer, heart attack or automobile accident thousands of times over before you are ever attacked even once by one of "them."

"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
-- Mahatma Gandhi

Bryan, couldn't agree with you more. And NorwegianLiberal, you might as well just go kill yourself with that attitude. Sounds rough, but I don't know how you get out of bed in the morning. Your observations aren't inaccurate, but they are keying in on some inflamatory aspects of a much more complex picture.

Thing is they are using are kids as cannon fodder in a war that cannot be won. I spent twenty years in the Army, with time in the sand, they dont want us there, the world dont want us there, we went because of lies from our leadership. Support the Troops, bring them home. Then they will only have each other to kill. To hell with the civilian leadership and their pocket Generals.