Let's not forget that correlation does not imply causation. Some people on psychoactive drugs are probably just a hair-trigger away from a killing spree anyway. Perhaps the drug was unsuccessful at stopping it.

I thought I heard that he took the antidepressants years ago.

Let's quit kidding ourselves - drugs don't cause people to do anything. That was 100% his choice, building up from a series of decisions to isolate himself, hate others, and blame them for his self-created issues.

Antidepressants can trigger mania, psychosis, paranoid reaction, abnormal thinking, etc. It says this in the Physicians Desk reference.

Go to: http://www.ssristories.com for a list of 1,572 criminal acts [with full media article available] perpetrated by people on antidepressants.

His college professors taught him to hate American capitalism. He acted upon their hate speech. The college professors should be tried for hate crimes.

lets be realistic ... our society glorify voilence, look around you, what do you see on TV, the movies, video games etc... it's corporate america at its best, glorified killers. My sympathy to Cho Seung and his other victims ...the CEO of corporate america are smiling upon your graves

I was a lobbyist at Pfizer, Searle and Merck and helped start the evidence based evauation process in Oregon. No one knows if these drugs can cause violence. No comparison studies have ever been made. The drug companies own much of the mental health community in the United States, for example Lilly has given millions to state mental health associations over the years and prevented Zyprexia or any other major anti-psychotic drug from being touched by an closed examination while paying out 100's of millions to families of people who have died from taking Zyprexia.

No Child Left Behind Act is to blame. It puts unrealistic demands upon students to go to college when they are not capable and then they go to pieces.

Yes, he definetly was taking some medication that may have made him worse.

I do think someone, maybe MotherJones, should look into the connection between the PERC, a neurotoxin used in dry cleaning (his parents' work) and his obvious neurological derangement and abnormalities.

A recently published study found that the offspring of dry cleaners have a much greater risk of schizophrenia.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=17113267
&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

Perrin MC, Opler MG, Harlap S, Harkavy-Friedman J, Kleinhaus K, Nahon D, Fennig S, Susser ES, Malaspina D.
Department of Epidemiology, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, New York, 10032, USA. mcp20@columbia.edu

Tetrachloroethylene is a solvent used in dry cleaning with reported neurotoxic effects. Using proportional hazard methods, we examined the relationship between parental occupation as a dry cleaner and risk for schizophrenia in a prospective population-based cohort of 88,829 offspring born in Jerusalem from 1964 through 1976, followed from birth to age 21-33 years. Of 144 offspring whose parents were dry cleaners, 4 developed schizophrenia. We observed an increased incidence of schizophrenia in offspring of parents who were dry cleaners (RR=3.4, 95% CI, 1.3-9.2, p=0.01). Tetrachloroethylene exposure warrants further investigation as a risk factor for schizophrenia.

PMID: 17113267 [PubMed - in process]

it's pretty well accepted in the psychiatric community these days that mistaking a depressive episode in a bipolar patient for simple unipolar depression, and then treating it with an SSRI, can trigger manic episodes far beyond anything previously seen in the patient -- enough so that since 2002 the standard of care has been to affirmatively rule out bipolar disorder before prescribing an SSRI...

you have to wonder.

I think a more significant mental health issue is the fact that two professors spoke up that this person was disturbed and that they were worried, and no one did anything. The official reply was that "you can't force someone to get counseling." If there was no specific target named, obviously, Tarasoff laws would not apply, but if there ever was a specific target named, then the school failed to report. Assuming there were no such issues, family conferences and the inclusion of outside, influential individuals can be very persuasive. I have worked in a university setting, and there are ways to handle these matters that apparently were not even attempted at Virginia Tech.

It's amazing in todays world with the ability for us to be intelligent creatures to not acknowledge that if we but a drug in our bodies that we are effected by it. These medications are fine if used to get us passed a point of time(say 3 months) but to live on a drug that alters the normal function of our brain and not be able to say ....it will change who we are!!!

A glass of wine makes me feel different, a cup of coffee gives my body energy, nicotine will addict me to cigarettes and give me lung cancer. It wasn't that long ago that the advertisments for cigarettes said "good for your health" Have we not learned from history that it is easy to say nothing is wrong until long after the profits of the commodity has been consumed and what are a few deaths compared to the incredible profit the drug companies make. From an business view point, I would bet that even if the drug companies pay out millions in law suits that the margin of profit will be so large it will hardly impact them. Of course by that time they will be heros, finding a NEW and safer drug replacement. How many times do we need to see this process before we figure it out?

Life isn't easy, nor is living through the conflicts it brings it is a part of life. There has always been struggles for humankind and SSRI's. In a short term use perhaps, I am not against there use for getting over a crisis but not for long term use.

Kurtfurst said: "I was a lobbyist at Pfizer, Searle and Merck and helped start the evidence based evauation process in Oregon. No one knows if these drugs can cause violence. No comparison studies have ever been made..."

Some of them know, and have done since the clinical trials, Pfizer included when trialling Zoloft.

The clinical data was seen and evaluated by an expert who explained:

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/58096-DH%20to%20WARK.htm

"...Reports on these trials list patients who have committed suicide, and list those patients as being of a certain age and as having committed suicide at a certain point during the trial, when the patient in question has a very different age and the event in question happened at a completely different point during the trial".

"Miscoding of suicidal act as emotional lability."

" Lilly have resorted to treatment non-response and a range of other headings to code what happened."

"...records on Prozac, Seroxat/Paxil and Lustral/Zoloft, you will find cases of HOMICIDALITY coded as nausea for instance."

"Discontinuation of patients from studies for primary adverse effects such as nausea when in fact there has been a suicidal act;"

"But it is also worth adding specifically that this has been a feature of ALL TRIALS of Zoloft/Lustral, Seroxat/Paxil and Prozac throughout, as far as I can make out... "

(uppercase emphasis added)

As far as Effexor (Wyeth's drug) is concerned, "Homicidal ideation" is listed as one of the drug's rare adverse events on page 36 of Effexor XR's label here: http://www.wyeth.com/content/ShowLabeling.asp?id=100

The drug companies know that they cause violence, suicide and homicide. They just don't want you to know it and they're very successful to that end.

I saw the effects of Paxil on my son´s behaviour (he was 12 at the time) and can testify to its dangers. The most dangerous thing is when someone stops taking it or reduces the dossage. Once somebody is under medication all bets are off regarding his behaviour. We have no idea how a person will react. My son went from being a bit depressed and unmotivated to suicidal and violent, begging to be institutionalized as he felt he was loosing his mind. Everything seem OK now that he is not using any medication, but the side effects on his life persist (e.g. he was kick out of school). I do not know what happened with Cho Seung-Hui, but he might be one of the victims. Not to arms, but to SSRI medication. This certainly should be investigated.

SSRI drugs are frightening. I've seen somebody I lived with change into a different person over the space of 3 months. It's like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The person you once knew is just gone and somebody else is there instead. In my friend's case, someone paranoid, humorless, flinty, inflexible, and punitive. It's no joke.

Bush, the corporitist and religious demagogue(por-lifer) will never allow these drugs to be investigated.

Correlation does not equal causation, of course, bit its interesting to note that Susan Smith, Andrea Yeats, and Eric Harris and Dillon Klebold were all on SSRI antidepressants when they went nuts. There is no peer-approved research confirming or denying a link between SSRI drugs and psychotic states at least in part because the drug makers refuse to do them - and after one of these events, should they be taken to court, they quickly settle and seal the medical records as part of the deal.

It seems to me that if we look to how our society reacts to situations like these; always placing blame on media, medication, "a sad childhood" and a variety of other excuses we could find the key to stopping this type of incident. Indeed our society has become one that relies on anything but self to help us out of our miserable situation. It is obvious from the state of mental health care in our country that something is seriously wrong and medication after medication is not the answer.

If the buzzing in the media is true about Cho and what a strange socially inept person he was then why does our society allow us to simply turn our heads until something happens. It is obvious this person was not college campus material and could not fit into society. Medication of any kind is not likely to help that.

I have to say that this is the most educated discussion forum I have found yet regarding this tragedy. Finally, people with sense are making their voices heard in an otherwise dog and pony circus the media has been putting on with regards to this tragedy. I fully agree that these drugs are what cause these violent behaviors in the first place (as I have seen first hand) but unfortunatley, THIS fact will not be reported on by the mainstream media who are themselves whores to the pharmaceutical industry and their billions in advertisements.

This tragedy illustrates a fundamental constitutional guarantee: freedom from prior restraint. You have to actually commit the crime before anyone can detain you. Freedom from prior restraint means you have to allow someone whom everyone knows is going to snap to actually snap before you can do anything about it. Soldiers aren't the only ones who die for freedom.

"This tragedy illustrates a fundamental constitutional guarantee: freedom from prior restraint. You have to actually commit the crime before anyone can detain you. Freedom from prior restraint means you have to allow someone whom everyone knows is going to snap to actually snap before you can do anything about it."

A good point, but not entirely true. For example, we now have stalker laws that permit restraint of someone practicing so-called menacing behavior. Unfortunately, in my community, the law enforcement officials are so unfamiliar with these laws that they often do not enforce them, which makes them next to useless.

There is also the mental health Tarasoff provision, though that differs from state to state. And there is the "harmful to self, harmful to others, gravely disabled" tenet for psychiatric commitment. "Gravely disabled," of course, is pretty black and white, but the other two involve judgment calls on the parts of both citizens and doctors. Someone who is doing and saying things that indicate s/he could cause harm to others may be a candidate for such restraint.

I am not saying that the VT shooter could have fallen into this category, but it appears that no one even investigated the possibility, which is very disturbing.

I think there is alot to say about psyciatric influence in our society and possible coorilations with the down fall of many of the strongest areas in our lives. For example drug use, criminality, insanity all at least imho seem to only get worse and worse the more money and power is poured into the phsychiatic comunity. We are also now living in a society where the best things in life (the family unit, education, bassic personal freedoms to flourish and prosper in the pursuit of happiness) are now tainted in many ways. It is becoming more and more difficult to ignore the truelly evil acts that go on around us. I have found one group who has alot of interesting info about possible coorilations to the APA and major pharmacudical industry. I think you all might be interested to take a look at www.CCHR.org whatever the true source may be it seems to reason that things cannot continue as they are for very long. It is up to people like us to do something about it

Scientology states that Psychiatry kills. Let us not rush to judgment in this matter. Don't put your faith in Psychiatry. Listen to Tom Cruise. Eat a good diet, don't take meds, and read Scientology. It sure helped me.

i think what that cho guy did was good, he killed dmany innocent people, but the teachers will be afraid to abuse the student in future. i read what he wrote, he said he is sacrificing himself for all the weak and helpless guys. and its true. first i thought he was a monster but after i read what he wrote i can see the benefit of what he did. you see in our world people only respect one thing -- strength. if you are big and tall everyone respect you, if you are small everyone treats you like shit. cho showed that small guys can turn nasty if pushed too far, and that will make people afraid to pick on small guys, especially students. innocent people died, that's unfortunate. but the same thing happens in a war, innocent die in order to correct some other evil. cho was kicked out of poetry and literature class for his writing, he was a shy guy so when he tried to hit on a couple girls in a somewhat clumsy way they ratted on him. society prepares the crime the criminal commits it.

I think that Cho had sexual identity problems and that explains his shyness and trouble relating to members of the opposite sex in his poetry classes. He tried to make up for his inadequacies by turning the guns which are symbols of maleness, especially the rifles.

Somebody should've given him some tough love. Slapped him around a bit. Shake him loose. Take him out of that box he had managed to sequester his troubled mind into. It's obvious from his "multimedia manifesto" how delusional and divorced from reality he was, and it seems a lot of people were somehow clued into this. It almost seems like a moral obligation for the mental health practitioner to realize the danger signs and take a proactive stance rather than let the chips fall where they may. It also seems irresponsible that they let him go off on his own accord secretly hoping perhaps that he doesn't turn out to be a "shooter". Of course hindsight is 20/20 and it is tragically unfortunate that we find out that somebody had to engage this delusional individual and help him vent his rage in a controlled environment (I don't know how else to put it w/o trivializing the situation). It's sort of like exploding a bomb in an open and unoccupied field. But alas it is too late.

Antidepressants have been linked to the development or worsening of agitation, anger, suicidal behavior, and psychosis in some individuals (especially depressed children and people with bipolar disorder). In fact, the FDA now requires antidepressant manufacturers to print bold warning statement on package inserts about the risk of these drugs inducing suicidal behavior.

Eric Harris (Columbine) is said to have been on the antidepressant Luvox. Jeff Weise (Red Lake, MN)may have been taking Prozac.

Of course, this does not prove that antidepressants caused these individuals to murder anyone. It's quite possible that suicidal and potentially violent individuals who have sought psychiatric help would likely be put on antidepressants.

But, it is certainly possible that antidepressants made things worse in these cases. Doctors need to be think more carefully about the risks of giving antidepressants to agitated, angry children and adolescents.

Brian Quinn, Ph.D.
Author: Wiley Concise Guides to Mental Health: Bipolar Disorder and The Depression Sourcebook

Now that more information has been published describing an unresponsive, cold, and silent young boy and a tormented middle schooler, I have to look to his genetic makeup to understand how something like this could happen.The antidepressants certainly made him worse. The epidemic of autism and diabetes type 1 and other chronic genetic disorders we are experiencing now, I believe is due to all the later fathering of babies and the mutations in the sperm making cells that begin to accumulate around the age of 33-35. The pharmas know all about the research over 50 years that links advancing paternal age with neurocognitive disorders and many autoimmune disorders and even some cancers and I almost forgot non-familial Alzheimer's.

All the pharmas have just posted excellent and better than expected earnings in this quarter. Their earnings will continue to rise because of all the men fathering babies past 35. We have to educate ourselves on this and men need to cryobank semen in their 20s. Don't expect the CDC or the pharmas, or the autism advocacy groups to mention paternal age.

Cho was autistic. We should ban the autistic from being out in public, or at least closely regulate them, not guns. Autistic people can be a threat to our social well being.

My observation is that Cho was autistic and also exposed to dry cleaning chemicals known to cause neurological problems. I grieve for him that the public school system in Virginia where he resided through his elementry & high school years did not properly treat this young man. I have read that he was tormented by his fellow students and by at least one teacher before finally graduating from that public school system. What a travesty. I have an autistic family member and many of my family advocate for our autistic relative every minute of every day because that is what the syndrome requires. Autistic people are unpredictable. ALSO, why should a non-citizen have the right to buy a gun in this country???!!! The Bill of Rights guarantees the right for citizens (native or naturalized) to buy guns -- not non-citizens. We do not need more gun laws -- just enforcement of the laws in effect. My condolences go to all affected by this terrible tragedy including Cho's family.

haha! dry cleaning chemicals. that's awesome

Cho has done what many have. Taken drugs from sompanies who belittle the effects of their drugs on some minds.

(1) On March 6, 1985, Atlanta postal worker Steven W. Brownlee , pulled a pistol from his pocket and shot and killed a supervisor and a clerk. Another clerk was wounded. Brownlee had received treatment and psychotropic drug at the Grady Memorial Psychotropic Unit. (35)

(2) On November 20, 1996, 14 year old Rod Mathews beat a classmate to death with a bat in the woods near his home in Canton, MA. He had been prescribed Ritalin since the third grade.(36)

(3) William Cruse was charged with killing six people in a shooting rampage on April 23,1997 in Palm Bay, Florida. Cruse had been seeing a Kentucky psychiatrist and stated he had been taking psychiatric drugs for several years.(37)

(4) Bartly Dobben killed his two young children on November 26, 1987 by casting them in a 1,300-degree foundry ladle. He had been placed on a regimen of psychiatric drugs in 1985. (38)

(5) On May 20, 1988, Laurie Dann walked into a Winnetka, Illinois second grade classroom carrying three pistols and began shooting innocent little children, killing one and wounding five others before killing herself. Subsequent blood tests revealed that both lithium and the antidepressant anafranil were in her bloodstream at the time the murders were committed.(39)

(6) On September 26, 1998, 19 year old James Wilson took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school in Greenwood, South Carolina and started shooting schoolchildren, Killing two 8 year-old girls and wounding seven other children and two teachers. Wilson had been in and out of the hand of psychiatrist for years and within 8 months of the killings he had been on several psychiatric drugs, including Xanax, Valium, Thorazine and Haldol.(40)

(7) On January 17, 1989, Patrick Purdy opened fire on a schoolyard full of young children in Stockton, California. During his vicious and unprovoked assault, Purdy killed five school children and wounded 30 others. Purdy then killed himself. During the two years prior to the murders of the Stockton children, Purdy had been on two strong psychiatric drugs of categories known to cause violence.(41)

(8) On April 28, 1992, Kenneth Seguin drugged his two children, aged 7 and 5, took them to a pond, slashed their wrist and dumped their bodies in the water. He then drove home and killed his wife with an ax while she slept. He was on Prozac at the time. (42)

(9) In November 1992, Lynnwood Drake III, in San Luis Obisbo and Morro Bay,California, shot and killed six people with a handgun before he killed himself. Metabolized Prozac and Valium were both found in his system.(43)

(10) In December 1993, Steven Lieth of Chelsea, Michigan , walked back into a school meeting and fatally shot the school superintendent and wounded two others including a fellow teacher. He was on Prozac at the time of the shootings.(44)

(11) 16-year-old Brian Pruitt who fatally stabbed his grandparents in 1995 had a history of psychiatric treatment and had been prescribed psychiatric drugs. (45)

(12) On November 3, 1995 sergeant Steven B. Christian, a 25 year commended veteran of the Dallas police force drove to a police sub-station and seriously wounded an officer outside in his attempt to get inside and shoot others. Christian was shot and killed by two fellow Dallas police officers. The autopsy revealed of an anti-depressant in his blood. (46)

(13) In Connecticut on March 6, 1998 Mathew Beck, a lottery accountant, reported promptly to his job, hung up his coat and methodically gunned down 4 of his bosses ,one of whom he chased through a parking lot before he turned the gun on himself. Beck had been seeing a psychiatrist and taking three types of “medication.” (47)

(14) On May 28,1998 Brynn Hartman murdered her husband, comic Phil Hartman, then proceeded to commit suicide. She had been prescribed and had been taking the anti-depressant drug, Zoloft, which the coroner found in her system along with alcohol and cocaine.(48)

(15) On February 19, 1996, 10 year old Timmy Becton, grabbed his 3-year-old niece as a shield and aimed a shotgun at a sheriff’s deputy who had accompanied a truant officer to his Floria home. Beccton had been taken to a psychiatrist in January and had been put on a psychiatric drug.(49)

(16) While on vacation, on May 25, 1997, in Las Vegas, 18 year old Jeremy Strohmeyer raped and murdered a 7 year old girl in the ladies room in a casino. He had been diagnosed with ADD and prescribed Dexedrine. He had begun taking the drug a week before the killing. (50)

(17) On September 27, 1997 16-year-old Sam Manzie raped and strangled another boy to death. The younger boy was selling candy door to door for the local PTA at the time of the killing. Manzie was under psychiatric “care” and was being “medicated.” (51)

(18) On May 21, 1998 14-year-old-Kip Kinnkel shot and killed his parents and then went on a wild shooting spree at his Springfield, Oregon high school that left two dead and 22 injured. He was reportedly taking Prozac and Ritalin and had been attending “anger management” classes.(52)

(19) On April 20, 1999 Eric Harris, one of two Colorado high school seniors who went on a deadly rampage, entered their school shooting students and faculty and setting off explosives. Twelve students and one teacher were killed, along with the two gunmen who ended the rampage by killing themselves, while 23 others were wounded. A toxicology report revealed Luvox, an anti-depressant in Harris’ system.(53)

(20) On May 4, 1999 Steven Allen Abrams rammed his car into a preschool playground in Costa Mesa, California killing two and injuring five. He had been placed on probation in 1994 which required him to see a psychiatrist and take Lithium.(54)

Perhaps maybe you should think about what is causing these disturbing trends.

"Cho was autistic. We should ban the autistic from being out in public, or at least closely regulate them, not guns. Autistic people can be a threat to our social well being."
- Sarah

WOW. I cannot believe my eyes. Are you insane!? Do you know ANYTHING about autism? Do not let the actions of one deranged individual make you form opinions on an increasingly large group of autistic people that are sociable, healthy, and contributing members of society.

You have successfully managed to completely discredit yourself with your overwhelming ignorance. Congratulations. Before you spout of against large groups of people, including the mentally handicapped, I suggest you do some research.

PEOPLE...the kid was psychotic and had been for sometime. He had classic symptoms of paranoia and persecutory as well grandiose delusions. The family needs to take some responsibility for sending him off to college thinking it would help him he should have been in treatment for years..not thinking he'd grow out of it. Families need to get their head out of the sand and get their loved ones help when they are young.

Question Marks...

"This didn't have to happen", Cho Seung-Hui said, after brutally murdering thirty-two people at Virginia Tech University.

And this terrible tragedy of sons, daughters, mothers and fathers didn't have to happen, if we'd only listened.

But we never listen.

We never listen to those that are different from us- the outcasts, the lonely, the homeless, the ones that are unspoken for. We don't try to understand. We shun them and put them out of our minds because of our fear that we will become like them.

And these people become more and more lonely and alienated in their isolation.

Words like "creep", "deranged misfit" and "psycho" devalue this killer's humanity so we don't have to face how similar he is to us. Cries of "how could he have been stopped" are uttered by media quick to sensationalize and gain market share, when the words "how could he have been listened to" are never considered.

Because we don't want to listen.

We don't want to hear about loneliness and alienation when we're all so busy with our lives, making money and making friends. And the unpopular, the ones that don't fit in, the lonely ones are ignored or made fun of because we don't care to understand anything about them.

As a boy, Cho Seung-Hui "was picked on, pushed around and laughed at over his shyness" (Associated Press). When he started college, according to the Guardian, "his mother took his dormitory mates to one side to explain about her son's unusual character and implored them to help."

And he clearly needed help, devaluing himself so much that he called himself "Question Mark".

There are more "Question Marks" out there. There are millions of them. And if we don't listen to them, they will follow the same path again and again, because people are not connecting. We are becoming more and more disconnected from each other, creating more and more "Question Marks" every day.

Most "Question Marks" don't become murderers. Some just kill themselves. Most harm no one and live just as we do, needing antidepressants to appear what we call "normal". They may be someone you know, someone you love.

This "Question Mark" was once a little boy, who cried, and smiled and loved, He wanted to fit in just like you and I. But that desire to fit in transformed itself into anger towards a society that shunned and ignored him.

How many more times will we shun and ignore the one that doesn't fit in, the one in the corner, the one that's different? When all we have to do is listen, before it's too late.

But we won't.

Thirty-two human beings who did not know Cho Seung-Hui were murdered.
They were sons, daughters, fathers and mothers, with dreams of futures that will never come and children that will never be born. The thirty-two leave behind people that love them. People that are now scarred for life by this horrible day of death.

To most of us that have not been directly involved, this tragedy will become a memory and fade like all the others that came before.

And the "Question Marks" will appear with more frequency, again and again, because we don't listen.

We never do.

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http://www.x-thc.com

Pfizer is just creating killers and rapists with their antidepressants. All it cares is just profit. I wouldn't wonder if the terrorists that hit the World Trade Center were high on Zoloft or Paxil, but there's no blood samples of them to test.

Not-so-dear-Sarah,

As an "autistic" person, I despise your prejudice ands bigotry against us. This guy was the first autistic serial killer in history, and you say WE should be banned from public"? How many nuerotypicals are serial killers, huh? I have never killed anyone, but multiple nuerotypicals tried to kill me, saying I was a "freak", "abomination", and "failed attempt at a child."

Hate-filled sadists like you should be banned from public.

Einstein was one of us, should he have been banned too?

After this happened, A woman kept her son away from a friend (one of us), saying she did not want her son playing with a murderous monster. The other little boy sadly asked his mother why he couldn't play with his friend. His mother didn't know how to explain such hateful discrimination to him.

He will grow up knowing people hate him for WHAT he is instead of WHO he is.

We're capable of good and evil too. That man chose evil. And compared to you, I'm an angel.

I hope you will repent, but I haven't met a single nuerotypical who has.

kristin,

I am truly sorry to read in your words the pain and suffering that has been inflicted upon you by neurotypicals and probably by some neuro-atypicals as well. I am probably within the definition of neurotypical, whatever that means given the complexity and individuality of the human brain.

Though I have not been elected to speak on anyone else's behalf, I would still like to personally apologize for the likes of the Sarahs of the world. Many of us do not hate people with particular medical conditions of any type.

Further, the neurological problem most likely in serial killers would be sociopathic personality disorder, a condition in which the killer essentially has no conscience.

So, again, I apologize for any additional pain in your life caused to you by the lack of understanding on the part of neurotypicals, whatever typical might mean when discussing human brains.

Cho wasn't on any anti depressants. Non were found during autopsy and he had no prescriptions for them.

Bravo, esp. to Kam's posting. An autistic individual, such as Cho, was society's scapegoat. You see, society is like one big humongous clique, that discriminates and ostracizes certain people. So, yes that is painfully honestly true about our culture being "rigged" somewhat to create criminals. If an individual like Cho shows up in a particular setting where he is not accepted, bingo, the cancer starts to grow! Sure the man was one sick pup, but, who do we or can we blame? Cho was put into situations that were beyond his control. His parents should have, once he reached eighteen, let him figure out where he did really belong, instead of continuously leading him around by the hand like as though he was still a little five year old going to kindergarten for the first time. He should have never enrolled in VT in the first place, it was too fast paced for a person with selective mutism that had little or no prior treatment, socialization, and preparation for this kind of endeavor. So what if he only wanted to hang around for a while after he finished high school. That would have given him some time to think things over and decide what he should do with his life, given his talents and limited social skills. He was in over his head, and drowned in a snunami.

Pfizer is just creating killers and rapists with their antidepressants.

Cho wasn't on any anti depressants. So what's your point?

All it cares is just profit. I wouldn't wonder if the terrorists that hit the World Trade Center were high on Zoloft or Paxil, but there's no blood samples of them to test.

I bet they were high on "faith". I guess blind belief is less scary to most people than paxil!

The FDA has admitted these drugs cause suicide and has added homicidal ideation to the label. The people taking these drugs for NON psychiatric problems have just as many violent reactions. I experienced this myself. The effect IS proven, it is dose dependent and has clearly been demonstrated as such in trials. Furthermore, with a challenge, dechallenge, and rechallenge protocol it is bascially proven that these drugs cause homicide. Please read more at www.uniteforlife.org