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More Bad News for Edwards, Obama

Kevin Drum blogs today's Los Angeles Times poll (PDF):

[Clinton's] supporters are more firmly in her camp than Edwards' or Obama's. Interesting! I would have guessed that Obama had the bigger corps of highly dedicated supporters. Second, and more important, Hillary leads not just in the general category of "more experienced," but in the very specific categories of "best at fighting terrorism" and "best at ending the Iraq war." And she leads by enormous margins.

Also worth noting is that Clinton leads the "Have the best chance of beating the Republican candidate in November" category by double digits in Iowa and a stunning 30 or more points in New Hampshire and South Carolina. Since concerns about electability derailed Howard Dean's campaign and brought John Kerry to the forefront in 2004, Hillary's advantage in this category could prove to be decisive. The problem, of course, is that primary voters were wrong about John Kerry's electability. Could they be wrong about Hilldog's?

—Nick Baumann

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The Democratic party power elite, along with "Yellow Dog" Dems will do their utmost to see that their nominee is the candidate with "the best chance to beat the Republican", rather than worry about a little thing like which one would be best for the USofA.

The Repub's power elite will work from the exact same motivation.

As a result, rather than seeing a choice like Dennis Kucinich vs. Ron Paul, their offerings will again be the "hold your noses and try to figure out which one is less evil than the other" variety.

As for myself, if the nominees from the big two come from what the media like to call their "top tier" candidates, I'll be doing what I've been doing for some time;
Stepping out of line, Refusing to select Either evil, and go with the best possible candidate, who'll be from a third party.
gvc

Posted by: gvc on 09/12/07 at 10:29 AM

Hillary has "prayer power". Her "cell" is praying for her.(see MoJo article on) Just get use to having weekly Bible studies and Sunday sermons when she becomes President. Bush was stupid and dumb. Hillary is smart and communicates well. The Evangelicals are pushing Hillary to an overwhelming surge. She can not be defeated. You leftists better get on the bus or get thrown under the bus.

Posted by: Carol Jackson on 09/12/07 at 11:09 AM

I'm sorry Carol, but I just can't see Evangelicals lining up behind a woman who wrote something titled "It Takes a Village to Raise a Child".

However, if you can show me an Evangelical site that's supporting Hillary, I'm always willing to learn something new.

Posted by: gvc on 09/12/07 at 11:55 AM

I thought I was the only person who did not want Hillary to be the next President. I see her as manipulative, self serving, and Bush in a dress.

Posted by: vicki lawson on 09/12/07 at 1:19 PM

gvc, read MoJos article above under Politics: "Hillary's prayer: Senator Clinton's religion and politics." It is a good hit job on her. It just goes to show that some Women(e.g. Victoria) do not like to see another woman get ahead.

Posted by: BillyBob T. on 09/12/07 at 3:00 PM

Yeah BillyBob, I saw that article a few days ago.

Personally, I don't care much to delve into whether a politician really believes the faith they put on display for the public (Jesus said to "go to your closet to pray"... not to put it on public display)
That's all between them and their God, and won't sway me one whit in my voting.

I just find it curious that someone says "evangelicals are pushing Hillary to an overwhelming surge", and there's no evangelical that I've heard, or heard of, who's said they're pushing Hillary anywhere except into the pits of hell, and I happen to have a brother-in-law who's an evangelical preacher...

Posted by: gvc on 09/12/07 at 3:38 PM

The rednecks will come out of the hills with grandma in her wheelchair to vote against hillary!!
Many democrats will sit on their hands and simply not vote!!
Does not any young man remember snotty college girls?
This snotty college girl is now a running for president

Posted by: joseph rhodes on 09/12/07 at 9:10 PM

And, “snotty college girls” ARE less acceptable than “dumb-ass frat-boys” to the white middle-trash and white lower-trash, who are STILL the majority of the peasant voters. The socialists (or liberals or progressives or leftist or whatever) should remember that.

Posted by: John on 09/13/07 at 8:47 AM

John, racism is not a part of this blog. Go some where else to post your hate and racism. Oh, I am sorry, your meds were late in arriving this month.

Posted by: Dr. Webster on 09/13/07 at 9:31 AM

I don't think John is being racist. I think John hates every Non-John equally.

No doubt it's easier than dealing with who he REALLY hates.

Posted by: MissDemeanor on 09/13/07 at 10:04 AM

Hillary dropped to the bottom of my list as soon as I read that MoJo article.

Obama lost me when he supported liquid coal. He dropped even lower when I read about this.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/061206-congress_passes/

You can read my full opinion of that piece of crap bipartisan bill on my blog if you're interested.

Anyway, I'm sticking with Kucinich in the primary. In the general election, I'll have to vote for whoever gets the dem nod since even Hillary is far better than the best of the reps.

Posted by: Misanthropic Scott on 09/15/07 at 10:00 AM

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