No one seems to have the nerve to tell the world what Foxman really IS and what Foxman really DOES so I guess we'll simply have to wait for him to self-destruct, only to replaced by another luftman pretending to be a voice of justice.

George Soros told Foxman that he is a loser. Most Jews do not respect him for a variety of reasons. He is such an egotist. He is concerned, like many Jews, about the decline in numbers due to many leaving the faith(it is too racist and not inclusive, but exclusive). Foxman appears to believe that persecution against Jews will keep the Jews in the fold. This is based upon good psychology. So Foxman is a big provoker of anti-Semitism at every opportunity that he gets. There is a method to this Orthodox Jew's seeming madness. I disagree with him, but he is rational, I just don't share his views.

Nobel peace prize winners:Tutu, Carter, Nelson Mandella have a lot in common. Foxman hates them all. He even hates the head of the Catholic Church. Foxman seems to have a lot of hate in him. But don't blame him, he gets it from the Orthodox book, called the "Talmud" that teaches hatred of people that are not like him.

It is a scandal of unprecedented proportion when one of the most prominent figures in our community, a man who claims to speak on our behalf, publicly challenges the historicity of another community’s genocide. Foxman’s ADL no longer represents the interests of the Jewish community. In fact, it seems the only interests it represents are its own.

Abdullah Gul needed a favor. It was February 5 of this year, and the Turkish foreign minister was fighting a push in the U.S. House of Representatives to recognize the Turkish murder of over one million Armenians during World War I. In past years the House had placated Turkey by dropping similar resolutions. But now, with the American-Turkish alliance weakened by the Iraq war, the resolution had found renewed support. Gul summoned representatives from the Anti-Defamation League and several other Jewish-American organizations to his room at the Willard Hotel in Washington. There he asked them, in essence, to perpetuate Turkey’s denial of genocide.
Abraham Foxman’s ADL acquiesced, and in so doing, performed the pièce de résistance of Foxman’s highly effective, if unintentional, decades-long campaign to demoralize Jewish America and send young Jews scurrying for the communal exit doors. The ADL chief is a danger to the future of the community, and it is a scandal that he remains at the head of a major Jewish organization. Foxman must go. And the organization he has done so much to shape must either change or go with him.
Getting by with a little help from his friends: The Turkish foreign ministerSoon after the meeting with Gul, the ADL joined three other American Jewish organizations—the American Jewish Committee, B'nai Brith International, and the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs—to deliver to Congress a written plea from the Jews of Turkey that the U.S. not recognize the Armenian Genocide.

[the ADL joined three other American Jewish organizations—the American Jewish Committee, B'nai Brith International, and the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs—to deliver to Congress a written plea from the Jews of Turkey that the U.S. not recognize the Armenian Genocide]

Ari F., got a link to a reputable news source on this? or just blog sites repeating what was posted on other blog sites?

surely there's got to be solid verification of a claim so specific as this one
[Gul summoned representatives from the Anti-Defamation League and several other Jewish-American organizations to his room at the Willard Hotel in Washington.]

Jet, look at your tool bar on the top of your screen, Google ADL and Armenia and there are many articles. The Jewish Daily Forward also discusses it. Jet, expand your horizons, use that Google toolbar. Stop reading Michael Savage so much.

never read Michael Savage at all.
don't even know who he is, although i've heard the name tossed around here a lot.

what i asked for, Stephen/Ari F. is verification of the claims being posted here.
i have yet to see any.
i know how to do a search and i'm damned good at it.
i also know how to post links to reputable sites, to back up what i'm posting.
do you?
or are there just not any real news sites to link to?

if 'go google it' is the best verification you can come up with then your claims must be relegated to my trash bin, and never mind the google toolbar that i chose not to clutter my screen with

bottom line: it's not my job to verify what you say. it's yours.

verify the claims you make or stop wasting bandwidth

Huffington Post 7/10/07 Mark Oppenheimer:"There are so many reasons to hate Abraham Foxman, the executive director of the once-proud Anti-Defamation League, but surely the best reason has to be his collusion with the Turkish government to perpetuate denial of its genocide against Armenians nearly 100 years ago. The Israeli government has long been part of this historical fudge, but at least it has the excuse -- however meager -- of Realpolitik: Bush goes boating with Putin, Israel dallies with genocide-denying Turks, China and Somalia do their petro-dance...and so it goes. But for a non-profit like the ADL, which in fact has done important work to combat not just anti-Semitism but other forms of ethnocentrism and racism, to shill for Holocaust-deniers (yes, the Armenian genocide can fairly be called a Holocaust) is inexcusable. He should be fired."

By Keith O'Brien, Boston Globe Staff | August 18, 2007

"The national Anti-Defamation League fired its New England regional director yesterday, one day after he broke ranks with national ADL leadership and said the human rights organization should acknowledge the Armenian genocide that began in 1915"
FresnoZionism.org "Nevertheless, Foxman’s position is not supportable:

“You would never ever say that about the genocide in Darfur; you would never ever say that about the Holocaust,” said [Sharistan] Melkonian. “You need to stop genocide anywhere you can, and the only way to stop genocide in the future is to acknowledge that it happened.” — Boston Globe

It is contradictory for the ADL to oppose Holocaust denial vigorously, as it should, while refusing to take a position on another historically documented genocide."

I could go on, and on, and on, with news reports on this issue.

that's better guys, and i don't disagree with the position that ADL is altogether on the wrong page here
i don't think we ought to be in bed with Turkey in the first place, because i believe the founders had it right about 'friendly relations with all nations, entangling alliances with none'

however, i asked if there was any reputable news site to verify the very specific claims that had been made, which i quoted, and i still don't see any

so from now on it might be good to just report straight on what you can back up, and don't include any fanciful stuff like
[the ADL joined three other American Jewish organizations—the American Jewish Committee, B'nai Brith International, and the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs—to deliver to Congress a written plea from the Jews of Turkey that the U.S. not recognize the Armenian Genocide]
or
[Gul summoned representatives from the Anti-Defamation League and several other Jewish-American organizations to his room at the Willard Hotel in Washington.]

there are some terms for people who make things up and report them as 'news', and they're not very complimentary

Jewish Voice for Peace, AN INTERFAITH VIEW: ADL’s genocide denial is reprehensible
By LAWRENCE SWAIM, Columnist
Southern California InFocus
"Genocide denial is never acceptable, but when it is done by a civil rights group, it is particularly reprehensible.

Sadly, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has long denied that the systematic murder of over 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 constituted genocide.

Leaders of other Jewish organizations — including B’nai B’rith and the American Jewish Committee — have taken the same unconscionable position, and are opposing a U.S. congressional bill recognizing the 1915 genocide.

This puts them at odds with virtually every other civil and human rights group in the world.

There may be situations in which premature charges of genocide can put people at risk, but recognition of past genocide is different.

Without recognition of past abuses, tyrants are emboldened, and future genocide becomes more likely.

"Who remembers the Armenians?" Adolph Hitler scoffed when planning the systematic extermination of Jews and Roma (Gypsies) in his death camps.

So why does the ADL engage in genocide denial?

Cynics say it might be partly because genocide against Armenians (or Muslims in Bosnia) detracts from the Nazi holocaust.

A second and more important reason is that the government of Israel does not recognize the Armenian genocide because it is fearful of offending elements within Turkey’s rigidly secular political and military elites.

American Jewish leaders are expected to docilely fall in line to promote the Israeli position.

But, in so doing, the ADL invalidates its own claim to be an independent American civil rights organization.

Genocide denial is rightly despised in the United States, and it isn’t good for Israel, either.

This is yet another instance in which the ADL works against American interests — not to mention the greater cause of civil and human rights — to promote the perceived interests of rightwing Israeli politicians.

But the ADL didn’t count on the courageous Armenian community in Massachusetts.

On Tuesday, Aug. 14, the Watertown Town Council voted to withdraw from an ADL program called ‘No Place for Hate.’

The town council voted 8-0 that there was no place in Watertown for genocide denial, either, severing their relationship with the ADL.

The following Monday, the Arlington, Mass., ‘No Place for Hate’ group also ended its relationship with the ADL; and on Tuesday, the Newton, Mass., Human Rights Commission similarly prepared to sever all ties to the Anti-Defamation League.

uIn response to this, Andrew Tarsy, the New England regional ADL director, publicly broke with national director Abraham Foxman on the Armenian genocide issue.

Foxman angrily fired Tarsy, only to hire him back a few days later.

But pressure on Foxman grew.

On Tuesday, Aug. 21, he announced that what happened to the Armenians in 1915 was "tantamount to genocide" — an equivocation that infuriated Armenians.

Furthermore, Foxman made it clear that he and other Jewish leaders would continue to actively lobby against a U.S. congressional resolution recognizing the 1915 genocide.

Underscoring the connection to Israel, on Aug. 24, the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz reported that Turkey had been scolding Israel about ADL waffling on the Armenian issue.

But how did an American civil rights organization become a wholly-owned subsidiary of another country’s government, and a pro-apartheid government at that?

"Armenians are not the only victims of denial," writes Jewish Voice for Peace’s Cecilie Surasky. "The ADL is an active apologist for the government of Israel’s worst human rights abuses. Palestinians are victims of an insidious form of denial that is not just about memory and recognition, but flesh and blood and life itself."

She concludes: "The ADL should decide to either be an Israel advocacy organization, or a pro-tolerance and anti-bigotry organization, but it has proven time and time again that it is impossible for it to be both."

Lawrence Swaim is the Executive Director of the Interfaith Freedom Foundation. He taught for eight years at Pacific Union College, and his academic specialties are American Studies and American literature. His column addresses current affairs from an American Christian and Interfaith perspective."