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In Which I Will Become Labeled an Anti-Semite
God help us, Marty Peretz posted some thoughts from someone who overlapped with, but did not know, Rev. Jeremiah Wright during the 50's when they attended the same Philadelphia high school. It's on The New Republic blog this week, where this someone, Morton Klein, helpfully points out that the good Rev. was raised "in privilege, not poverty." And his point is.....?
It would be so easy to find TNR articles destroying the played-out notion of affluent, functional blacks as inauthentic that I refuse to dignify the exercise by undertaking it. So, now I'm just gonna tell y'all what his point is, the one for which he used the coincidence of a shared home town as a pathetic cover up. First, his nut graf:
Wright grew up in Philadelphia in
"...a lovely neighborhood to this day. Moreover, Rev. Wright's father was a prominent pastor and his mother was a teacher and later vice-principal and disciplinarian of the Philadelphia High School for Girls, also a distinguished academic high school. Two of my acquaintances remember her as an intimidating and strict disciplinarian and excellent math teacher. In short, Rev. Wright had a comfortable upper-middle class upbringing. It was hardly the scene of poverty and indignity suggested by Senator Obama to explain what he calls Wright's anger and what I describe as his hatred.
My, oh my. Where does one begin?
Knowing both the magazine and many of the folks who work or worked there (I jumpstarted my career freelancing for them; they're good friends), I'm going to guess that Marty's blog is untouchable. And, that this post is likely unreadable to most of the people there. The premise itself—Wright wasn't born the proverbial poor, black child and therefore can't be angry but merely racist—can only induce groans and energetic eyeball-rolling. Perhaps the writer is unaware of Dr. King's Brahmin background, almost identical to Wright's? Except even higher ranking.
King was black royalty. He was a bon vivant party boy, cavorting around in expensive suits, convertibles, and (it must be said) white girls, until the elders told him it was time to put away childish things and assume the family mantle. He didn't ask to pastor a church in war zone Montgomery so he could lead the bus boycott. He was ordered there and shit happened. So, if I remember my Logic 101, by Klein's argument the dapper ladies' man King also had no right to be angry. Wright's father a "prominent pastor?" His mother "a strict disciplinarian and excellent math teacher?" In the 1950s? How dare he?
I don't know Morton Klein, but I assume he's well-educated enough to know that those two roles—prominent minister and school teacher/vice-principal—meant only one thing from 1900-1970: a power couple keenly aware of racism and steeped in the fight for civil rights. They were the political and moral leadership. They were deferred to and consulted with on all community issues. They were our best and brightest seeing as how we had a tad bit of trouble winning office or, like, staying alive.
But I think the author does know. He certainly knows that life for blacks in the 1950s, educated or not, North or South, was no picnic.
This part is disgusting:
"[Wright] could have gone to an integrated neighborhood school, but he chose to go to Central, a virtually all-white school. Central is the second oldest public high school in the country, which attracts the most serious academic students in the city."
So, the black 8th grader Wright, with two highly educated parents in the segregated 1950s, was such an Uncle Tom that he refused to go to a less rigorous school with his own people? Weird, since he knew that in 2008 he was going to have to answer for the pre-teen choices he made under Jim Crow.
The point, ladies and gentlemen? The point is that the piece was penned by Morton Klein, national president of the Zionist Organization of America, who hates Wright for blaming America "for supporting Israeli 'state terrorism against Palestinians,' " and for receiving a lifetime achievement award from Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan.
Affluent Jews can care about Jews in another country, but affluent blacks can't care about Watts? This would be kind of funny if the stakes weren't so high; I usually have fun with 'thinking' like this but not while the fight over Wright rages. This is a time for honorable people to set standards. If Klein was a man of honor, he'd have skipped the first half of his post and only debated Wright for his stance on Jewish issues. Nothing wrong with that. But claiming that Wright couldn't possibly understand racism and poverty since he got to go to a nice high school with pre-Buppie parents is just another version of oppression one-upsmanship with the loser thrown out of the lifeboat, silenced. Not just outranked, but denied a place in the nation's attention.
Peretz claims to offer this choice nugget as "a contribution towards understanding this strange but apparently common type of preacher." Preachers, preachers everywhere: Whose fault is it that you never paid attention to what they were saying between all those gospel songs we've entertained you with for so long?
The sad part is, all the 'typical' white people will skip the pro-Jewish part and just glom onto the black-people-shut-up part. In fact, I expect to be seeing this "argument" regularly now.
I usually have to hit the National Review, Coulter, or Fox to find my intellect and my morals so offended; now I have a new blog to avoid.
Two final, not at all rhetorical, questions: Shouldn't these sorts of attacks be beneath all of us by now? If you want to debate Israel and Farrakhan, debate Israel and Farrakhan. But this?
Comments
Obama associates with noted anti-Semites. The Jewish community has withdrawn their support from Obama and put it on McCain, a more reliable supporter of Israel. Obama will not get elected. McCain will get elected with Jewish support and he will know it and we will reap the rewards. Let this be a lesson to all.
Posted by: Ira C. on 03/25/08 at 4:32 PM Respond
Way to much paranoia about being an "anti-semite". I'm not an Israel hater, but I'm happy to see a candidate stand up and not be Israel's lapdog.
Posted by: Trettsie on 03/25/08 at 4:46 PM Respond
Following the logic Klein is using, I guess anyone who is relatively well-off can't be sympathetic, angry, or an activist for people who share identity with them and are not well off. An example: I'm queer, had a middle-class upbringing, and had a relatively easy coming out experience: does this mean I can't advocate on behalf of GLBT people who have been physically and verbally harassed, who have been kicked out of their homes, who have been denied services, who have been raped, who have been killed because of their identity? That I can't be angry that, although these things never happened to me, these things are a common occurrence for GLBT people in this country? What blatant racism on the part of Klein and Peretz.
Thanks for posting this Debra. I am afraid as you are that unfortunately, many people who have not experienced being a minority will not see how flawed the argument is. I hope I am proven wrong.
Posted by: JP on 03/25/08 at 7:08 PM Respond
3/28/01 Nelson Mandela Nobel Peace Prize letter: “If you follow the polls in Israel for the last 30 or 40 years, you clearly find a vulgar racism that includes a third of the population who openly declare themselves to be racist. This racism is of the nature of "I hate Arabs" and "I wish Arabs would be dead". If you also follow the judicial system in Israel you will see there is discrimination against Palestinians, and if you further consider the 1967 occupied territories you will find there are already two judicial systems in operation that represent two different approaches to human life: one for Palestinian life and the other for Jewish life. Additionally there are two different approaches to property and to land. Palestinian property is not recognized as private property because it can be confiscated. Palestinians are not struggling for a "state" but for freedom, liberation and equality, just like we were struggling for freedom in South Africa. Israel's racial discrimination is daily life of most Palestinians. Since Israel is a Jewish state, Israeli Jews are able to accrue special rights which non-Jews cannot do. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property. It has perpetuated a system of gross racial discrimination and inequality. It has systematically incarcerated and tortured thousands of Palestinians, contrary to the rules of international law. It has, in particular, waged a war against a civilian population, in particular children.” Nobel Peace Prize winner, Jimmy Carter agrees.
Posted by: Jamahl on 03/25/08 at 9:10 PM Respond
I didn't know the Jewish Community moved in such lock step. And, what rewards are we supposed to reap, or is that sarcasm?
Posted by: ben s on 03/26/08 at 8:44 AM Respond
"I'm confused Ira. I know a lot of Jews that support Obama. Perhaps I need a definition of the "Jewish Community" Up to providing it?
Posted by: Patrick on 03/26/08 at 8:53 AM Respond
Lets face, the tribes have been hating each other for 2000+ years. After reading these biblical mythological stories for 2000+ years are we not hardwired to hate each other. After all, the promised land goes to the promised tribe. All, in all this crock of myths have surely mixed us all up. If it were only possible to have a secular president we may be able to get the priests out of politics. After that, then we can go back to basics and realize that our DNA never created race. Religion did so. Obviously, human beings created the religion to rationalize the guilt and hatred between the tribes. ahh, evolution will surely fix us. Obviously, it could take quite awhile, like forever, for the mutant tribes to just go extinct leaving the secular and "tribes with no race" behind. It is too bad Obama is not secular. Then again, he is so hardwired by biblical myths, he could never be secular. So, either way, we are now doomed to have a Wright, a Hagee or whoever Hillary's priest may be running our beloved Nation for the next four years.
Posted by: Derik on 03/26/08 at 8:54 AM Respond
Following Mr. Klein's logic the Jews who didn't themselves live through the holocaust have no rights to discuss it or sympathize with the survivors.
Posted by: Ira on 03/26/08 at 9:35 AM Respond
As far as I'm concerned the US should eject from all government offices each and every person holding dual citizenship - this of course would be devastating for the Zionists in our government, who have done more harm to the US than any other foreign influences.
Posted by: Lizzie on 03/26/08 at 10:07 AM Respond
Can ANYONE imagine a time when the public will regard ANY politician having ANY CONNECTION TO A KNOWN ASSOCIATE of a neo-conservative with the same outrage that is now being directed toward Barack Obama for having any less than six degrees of separation from the politically radioactive Louis Farrakhan?
It is not only African-Americans who will be alienated from the Democratic Party for many years or decades, to come if Barack Obama's campaign is brought to a stop because of his personal friendship with an outspoken black pastor of a mainline protestant church; it will also alienate millions of people like me, white, middle aged and older - and yes, even female! - who first made their lifelong commitment to the Democratic Party in the 1960's, for having opposed racism, poverty and for advocating civil rights. And just as we oppose racism, we are particularly sensitive to accusations of that form of bigotry known as anti-semitism.
Too often, though, this most toxic accusation has been used to silence any discussion that might anger the ever-vigilant and very powerful American Israel Political Action Committee - even within the American Jewish community; few seem to be willing or able to express the range or variety of political views routinely appearing in the Israeli news media.
Before any of us acquiesce to the demand that every demographic group in the U.S. put their own interests AFTER the commitment to protect Israel at any cost (including our rights to freedom of speech and association), I hope the leaders of the Democratic Party recognize what it will cost us all if a candidate with such rare gifts as Barack Obama were to be sacrificed to the paranoia of a relatively small group which has more than once supported Republicans in the past, as long as they keep the weapons and material support to Israel flowing.
Posted by: Linnea on 03/26/08 at 10:17 AM Respond
Good comments, Debra.
No, GREAT comments, Deb!
One thing, I guess I don't really understand how the issue of Wright's racism got lost in the shuffle... But since it did perhaps you would like to write a liberal viewpoint on his hate speech?
Since it is plainly said, front and center, it amazes me that you would prefer to address an author on another blog instead of decrying this "outspoken black pastor of a mainline protestant church" which I suppose doubles as a euphemism for "racist hate-preacher." Imagine if people had simply called Hitler "outspoken" or, since the majority of the invection on this page is reserved for Jews anyway, if Castro or Stalin were relegated to the "outspoken" but irrelevant bin....oh wait, they were until it was too late. Their causes and the thousands (if Holocaust deniers, lol) of deaths they pursued came to pass b/c they were given a pass for saying what many people were thinking.
On the other hand, it is humorous to hear McCain's pastor (or whatever he is) compared to Wright, as if there is a white pastor outside of the Aryan Nation that openly preaches racist rhetoric.
I know, I know, you're right. The climate of oppression blacks have been FORCED to withstand entitles them to defaming America and making racist comments....just like it entitles their use of the "N" word. WTF?
Get over your self-hatred and guilt politics leftists, they are SO tiring. Comparing bad to worse is an empty argument, and comparing one racism to another is an adventure in stupidity.
Posted by: Joe on 03/26/08 at 11:29 AM Respond
Pastor Wright would be considered to be in the mainstream in Europe. STRASBOURG - European Union lawmakers urged Israel not to inflict "collective punishment" on Gaza's population, saying its isolation of the territory had failed and its actions were endangering civilians.
They urged Israel to lift a blockade which has cut supplies to the 1.5 million people in Gaza, run by the Islamist group Hamas, and let in aid and essential goods and services.
"The policy of isolation of the Gaza strip has failed at both the political and humanitarian level," the European Parliament said in an adopted resolution.
"The civilian population should be exempt from any military action and any collective punishment." "The European Parliament calls on Israel to cease military actions killing and endangering civilians, and extrajudicial targeted killings," The resolution said. A new civil court founded in Belgium by human rights organizations will convene for the first time Friday evening and discuss war crimes Israel had allegedly committee during the Second Lebanon War and war crimes the groups claim it is currently committing in the Gaza Strip
Over the past year, human rights groups, in cooperation with Arab and European intellectuals, have been working on establishing the new court, which will be tasked with addressing different issues related to human rights violations and war crimes.
The first matter on the court's agenda will be Israel's operations in the Gaza Strip. Human rights organizations, as well as the victims of these alleged crimes, will appear before the court. The court has also invited Israeli representatives to attend the hearing and respond to the accusations.
Posted by: Todd on 03/26/08 at 11:50 AM Respond
This is the most sneakily divisive blog i've read in a long time...and given the present abundance of sneaky blog space now in our faces, that says it all.
Posted by: elbajoeste on 03/26/08 at 2:15 PM Respond
I'm Jewish and I support Obama.
And I know many of my coreligionists do as well.
Posted by: c on 03/26/08 at 2:20 PM Respond
How silly of me to think that educated blacks in the era of jim crow might want to put their child in the best damned school they could get him into - knowing beyond doubt it was about the only only way to survive a racist society?? geee how silly of me.
Posted by: jeff on 03/26/08 at 2:23 PM Respond
After reading both of Obama's books and listening to his positions as a young Illinois center, I was hopeful that Barack would be different. I would love to see candidate that doesn't bow before Israel and AIPAC but rather looks at the Palestinian/Israeli conflict in an objective light. Ira, why should a candidate have to learn a "lesson" for pointing out the disparity in the 10-1 ratio in civilian casualties? On the flip side, why should John McCain be rewarded for his full-fledged support of Israel, regardless of their blatant aggression and dismissal of international law? And why should I be called an anti-Semite for questioning Israel? You don't have to be a holocaust survivor to side with Israel. But neither should Obama have to dismiss Palestinian grievances to become president.
Posted by: Ryan on 03/26/08 at 2:26 PM Respond
Wow - a blog full of apologia for racist rants, followed by knee-jerk anti-Israel and anti-Semitic responses. Keep giving fodder to right wingers, guys. Spot on.
Posted by: ssc on 03/26/08 at 2:29 PM Respond
I find your writing a bit confusing, Ms.MoJoBlog. I'm sorry, but I cannot find your name in my brief search.... However, I would like to comment.
1. That Reverend Wright is a well-off man's son is very interesting. I think it does make me even more disappointed in his behavior. I think he is making his living off of the genuine prejudice that Black people have suffered/and you say are still suffering. I will grant that fighting for equality is a good thing. As a skeptic, I say, he probably is making a good living from it. I am told that he, as leader of the church, is really a leader of an astounding charitable organization that supports many programs in the community. A spokesman for Rev Wright might put forward the Church's annual report/ budget for the world to see. Is he really a fighter for Black/White equality or does he just play one in church...
2. I would like to see some tape of Wright's sermons in which he gathers his flock to engage in prayerful, peaceful, petitioning of our Almighty Father, asking Him to bring us all to a peaceful resolution of our differences. If the shouting and yelling and abusive speech is just an abberation, then the tape on prayerful petitioning of our Father in the Name of Jesus should be readily available!
3. I believe that there are many sacred cows in this country. Two of them are White cannot say ANYTHING about Black.
Gentile can never say anything negative about Israel.
And, A YOUNG LADY WHO IS BLACK, AND OH SO TALENTED--TALENTED ENOUGH TO BE A WRITER IN A NATIONAL MAGAZINE- -SHOULD STOP WHINING AND ACCEPT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BLACK MIGHT NOT LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE SOUNDS LIKE A PAIN--ALWAYS DREDGING UP THE RACE CARD IS SCARY. HOWEVER, I GUESS THAT IS HOW SHE IS NOW MAKING HER LIVING--
Posted by: Owl16 on 03/26/08 at 2:41 PM Respond
Ira...when will you people let the troubles of Hitler's germany go. It's been 60 years, it must be hard to find anyone who can claim both 1) to have been in a concentration camp and 2) be a jew!.
Whatever the number of jews that died by Hitler's hands, he also decimated non-jews in eastern europe and russia. Now there's more of the same happening to the black populace of much of Africa.
I do not and will not support any action to benefit Israel or Israelis. If possible I would stop the $8+billion per year that we give that country. there is no rational reason for the US to give a dime to Israel for any reason.
Posted by: Jake on 03/26/08 at 3:04 PM Respond
You mean you couldn't find that big blue link that says "Debra Dickerson"? Sure, it took me about two minutes to spot it myself, but if you really cared to look for it at the bottom of her blog entry, I'm sure you would have found it. After all, you seem to think that you are smart enough to speak for Jesus Christ Himself.
Open up the book of Matthew (21:12) for a second and read about Jesus clearing the temple of the merchants. Perhaps that is the model that Rev. Wright has been using to get people aware to what's going on around them. If only more preachers were as on fire for such purposes. It wouldn't work in a "lilly white" Fundamentalist church, though.
God is not there to rescue us from the actions of unjust men and women. He's not our nanny nor our policeman. Rather, he asks us what we will do to change things--it's a fairly constant theme in the Bible and I'm shocked that anyone who claims to worship Christ never caught on to that.
Posted by: Cynth on 03/26/08 at 3:07 PM Respond
I am sure that Pastor Wright would agree with Mahatma. Washington Post, “on Faith” 1/7/08, Mahatma’s grandson, President and co-founder of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence.
Jewish Identity Can't Depend on Violence
Jewish identity in the past has been locked into the holocaust experience -- a German burden that the Jews have not been able to shed. It is a very good example of a community that can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends. The holocaust was the result of the warped mind of an individual who was able to influence his followers into doing something dreadful. But, it seems to me that the Jews today not only want the Germans to feel guilty but the whole world must regret what happened to the Jews. The world did feel sorry for the episode but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on the regret turns into anger.
The Jewish identity in the future appears bleak. Any nation that remains anchored to the past is unable to move ahead and, especially a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs. In Tel Aviv in 2004 I had the opportunity to speak to some Members of Parliament and Peace activists all of whom argued that the wall and the military build-up was necessary to protect the nation and the people. In other words, I asked, you believe that you can create a snake pit -- with many deadly snakes in it -- and expect to live in the pit secure and alive? What do you mean? they countered. Well, with your superior weapons and armaments and your attitude towards your neighbors would it not be right to say that you are creating a snake pit? How can anyone live peacefully in such an atmosphere? Would it not be better to befriend those who hate you? Can you not reach out and share your technological advancement with your neighbors and build a relationship?
Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.(Arun Gandhi is the fifth grandson of India’s legendary leader, Mohandas K. “Mahatma” Gandhi. He is president and co-founder of the M. K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, now at the University of Rochester in New York)
Posted by: Arun on 03/26/08 at 3:22 PM Respond
By 'sneakily divisive' I mean like old Albert Shanker. He used hate without ever having to own it. The fact that he was Jewish didn't matter. He abused and manipulated the once powerful Black/Jewish alliance into something very ugly. "Deb" and others like her never come out of their race holes...but do just enough to have others unwittingly trip and fall into them. I'd rather have my racism straight-no-chaser than have it be so convoluted that it could come from a Clinton (or a Rove).
Posted by: elbajoeste on 03/26/08 at 3:28 PM Respond
The nonsense "anti-semite" term is classic Jewish propaganda meant to "label" anyone as a racist who speaks of Judaism without first genuflecting - if only in the mind of the reader.
It is never used in person to person discourse and rarely used in media discourse because it is so easy to redicule as I am doing here.
It is a primarily a one-way media term (newspapers and TV).
It also has two other useful attributes:
1. It can be used to crucify a non respectful Christian as a racist without using the term "anti-Judaism" which of course a Christian simply cannot be as he is required to in fact worship Jews in order to be admitted to the afterlife they have promised him, and
2. It helps to convince Jews that they are a race first and foremost - which they are not - and thus discourage them from simply walking out those swinging doors that all religions have, the doors that swing in and ALSO swing out.
Posted by: Paperboy on 03/26/08 at 3:39 PM Respond
i attended Central High 1984-1988. the neighborhood surrounding Central and Girls' High (which is only 2 blocks uphill) was better than a ghetto (of which Germantown was a fine example, back then), but not by much. i was the target of several attempted muggings by local kids, while walking up that hill to catch the bus, and only the intervention of adult passersby saved me.
anyone who thinks this is a "privileged" experience is delusional. my choices (based on my grades) were to attend Central (performance-based attendance, and they could transfer you out), or George Washington High in Northeast Philly (people would sometimes get shot or knifed there). it was not a difficult decision. if the these were the choices for me (Caucasian, Soviet expatriate, good grades), i imagine the choices for the Wright family (some decades earlier) were far less attractive.
Mr. Klein's argument of privilege (which is questionable in any context, as noted in previous posts) is not based on reality. he has a clear agenda, and it is that of the AIPAC, as ruthless a group of political operatives as the US has ever seen (the FBI is currently conducting an investigation of the group, because its heavy-handed, possibly illegal, activities became impossible to ignore). personally, i despise the Israel lobby as much as i despise the US neocon politicians (McCain, i'm looking at you) who cater to this bunch of nationalist lunatics. they all promote violence and tyranny, blindly follow their political and economic ideology (corporatism), and discount rational thinking. in their quest to protect themselves from any possible future Holocaust, AIPAC and its allies have become the thing they feared (corporatist bigots).
based on my experience as a former US Army sergeant, i believe Mr. McCain is the Mulitary-Industrial Complex candidate. he sold out when he voted to sustain Bush's veto of the anti-torture bill, when he embraced Falwell and Robertson, and when he tossed off that statement about "100 years". he traded his integrity for Republican electability. if McCain makes it to the White House, he will give the world another hundred years of war. he has only military solutions, for a world that is facing mostly economic and humanitarian problems. this is natural, because when one only knows how to use a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
it's time the voting public looked beyond their feelings (desperate times, desperate measures, people), and chose a president based on merit and character. if the last 8 years have shown us anything, it is that, although anyone can be President, many people are unfit for the job. the best of this current lot is Obama. the Clintons have far too much political baggage to effectively change things - too many debts and favors to pay off. regardless of who heads the Dem ticket, there is no way in Hell i'd ever vote for McCain.
Posted by: bus on 03/26/08 at 3:47 PM Respond
Ms. Dickerson:
I have followed your writings with interest and appreciation over the years since I first read your commentary when you worked at the New America Foundation.
I think you wrote a fine, not particularly controversial article. But I wonder why you would write, "In Which I Will Become Labeled an Anti-Semite" as your title.
Put aside the point that it implies that any criticism of what you write is because there is some kind of unified Jewish effort to label you as anti-Jewish, which is clearly not the case.
More important, it implies that anything Martin Peretz or his blog or The New Republic says or does speaks for the greater body of American jews.
Speaking as one of the tribe that is just crazy. It makes as much sense as saying Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speak for all American blacks. We know that in all three cases it just isn't so. In fact it is hysterically, rolling on the floor, laughing our asses off, not so.
Really, Peretz is just another example of someone with a lot of money who bought himself a bully media pulpit. But to think that he actually persuades many people is a big mistake.
Most people, Jews and others, understand that the New Republic reflects Martin Peretz's viewpoint, and nothing more. For background on that I recommend this article "My Marty Peretz Problem--And Ours" by Eric Alterman in the American Prospect July 2007 - August 2007.
Sincerely,
David Isenberg
Posted by: David on 03/26/08 at 4:33 PM Respond
Steven Edwards, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, January 30, 2008
UNITED NATIONS - Louise Arbour, the United Nations high commissioner for human rights,( a former Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda) has thrown her support behind a major pan-Arab human rights charter that commits to the elimination of Zionism.
In a statement from her Geneva headquarters, the former Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda , welcomes the Arab Charter on Human Rights, which will come into force in mid-March.
"Regional systems of promotion and protection can further help strengthen the enjoyment of human rights, and the ... charter is an important step forward in this direction," Ms. Arbour says. The charter's preamble speaks of "rejecting all forms of racism and Zionism," alleging they violate human rights and threaten international peace and security.
Article 2 of the 53-article document says "all forms of racism, Zionism and foreign occupation and domination" should be "condemned and efforts must be deployed for their elimination." As all good progressives, we must support the UN and not be so parochial in our viewpoints.
Posted by: Stephen on 03/26/08 at 4:56 PM Respond
I posted this blog:
The sermons of the Rev. Wright are in the traditions of the old prophets calling the nation to account, to raise the critical faculties of the hearers so that the immoralities within the person and within the nation can be remedied and overcome. In my time I heard ministers like that. The inside of the church is considered by such prophets the place of holiness, where nothing less than the good is sought. That good, that truth has no location, country, political party, material object of possession, or individual whether or not in any political office.
And a clarification: The statement that Wright made about "Aids being an invention
. .to infect black Africans"
was clearly referred to the fact that "KKK" types were
imputing the cause of AIDS to
Black Africans.
I recall this canard being howled at the time of the late '80's
I am of European descent but I don't consider myself a "paleface". Whiteness
has to do with ghosts.
Let them put this in their pipe and smoke it, whatever they smoke.
Posted by: GPFrank on 03/26/08 at 5:49 PM Respond
I wonder how many people in the world would cry if Israel really got wiped off the map? I suspect not too many, for arrogance, cleverness and lack of humility are characteristics that few people in the world appreciate and since they are part and parcel of "the Chosen race" me thinks the cry of "never again" is wishful thinking and it is only a matter of time until the ugly specter raises it'd head again to give it another try...
Posted by: hakim kutta on 03/26/08 at 6:51 PM Respond
As one of the comments has noted, criticism of Israel seems to be more common in the Israeli media and public society - human rights groups etc, than in the American press and political class.
Talk of a free press and freedom of expression!
Alu
Dar es Salaam
Posted by: Robert Alu on 03/26/08 at 11:05 PM Respond
So much cynicism here! My goodness. Could it be that part of the country's problem is cynicism? Most of y'all sound like your religious experience came from reading Ambrose Bierce's The Devil's Dictionary. America, oh America, where has the intelligence gone? Probably off the Tallahachee Bridge.
Posted by: jimsecor on 03/27/08 at 1:01 AM Respond
One should remember that the young Ghandi was an affluent, arrogant, selfish brat. Then he grew up!
Posted by: Donkey on 03/27/08 at 9:50 AM Respond
Unfortunately, you are not aware of the letter that Senator
Obama sent to current leader of Israel, Mr. Olmert, in which, in no uncertain terms, he promised his support of Israel and also professed an understanding of why Israel had no choice but to undertake the military actions in Gaza, which much of the world decried, to protect its citizens against Hamas rocket attacks. He literally promised that he would do nothing less than work for Israel's continued survival. On another note, I would strongly suggest that you review McCain's foreign policy agenda as outlined in the article that he wrote and which was published "Foreign Affairs" as they may ultimately be more of a problem for Israel in light of the unilateral position his foreign policy agenda appears to outline for America and its "allies" if he is elected president.
Posted by: Scythian on 03/27/08 at 10:53 AM Respond
Ah yes, excellent point. The Holocaust happened 60+ years ago, why do people still talk about it?!
Um, how long ago was slavery repealed?
You sir, are a single-faceted bigot.
Posted by: Joe on 03/27/08 at 3:55 PM Respond
What you fail to understand about Jesus' clearing of the temple's grounds is that Christ was perfect and therefore capable of moral judgment.
Is Rev. Wright the second-coming of Jesus?
B/c even with a 2-minute Google search I was unable to locate any claims of that hilarity.....
Posted by: Joe on 03/27/08 at 3:57 PM Respond
Surpassing strange it is, to read all the comments by people who evidently swallowed Faux's selective footage whole, as representing the whole of the Rev's message.
Strange also, those who think that the good Rev. is misrepresenting his congregation. Did they not hear the roar of approval from the crowd, when Wright drew the parallel between the terrorism we've done as a nation, and the reward we got for it, on 9/11?
One can't think that ALL of those in the audience, er, congregation had come from similar "privileged" backgrounds as the Rev. Why would they so readily agree with his sentiments? Could it be that his views DO represent the views of his parishioners?
It's human nature, I suppose, to try to find ways to discredit unpleasant messages. But if you do so, and the message is in fact reflective of reality, you run the risk of not seeing the cliff, or the brick wall, or the risk of acting arrogant in the world, with no credibility to back it up.
Posted by: Dan Mortenson on 03/27/08 at 10:03 PM Respond
It is interesting that the news media is reporting that Obama might be considering Bloomberg as a potential running mate. A Jewish New Yorker who is a staunch defender of Israel.
Posted by: Shoshanna on 03/28/08 at 5:29 AM Respond
Dan, if you want to know what the Black community really believes, look up in You Tube, Pastor Manning.
Posted by: Willy Boy on 03/28/08 at 7:15 AM Respond
Ah yes, unpleasant messages suck.
Here's a couple:
-Wright's comments are racist.
-Discussing Jews and their problems do not distract from that.
-Black folk have it better in America than in any other country in the world.
-No white POTUS candidate would have a shot or be apologized for if his white "preacher" made comments remotely similar to the ones that have Wright in hot water.
-Wright's income last year was $1,300,000.00
-Apparently bigotry pays well in the black church community.
Posted by: Joe on 03/28/08 at 10:53 AM Respond
ALL PREACHERS PERPETRATE HATE IN ALL RELIGIONS
IT'S WHAT THEY DO - DEAL WITH IT BY LETTING IT GO!
I wonder what the world would be without religion of any kind, now that we are intelligent enough to know that gravity, not a god makes an apple fall or that weather can be explained by studying thermal changes not invoking a god thru a rain dance. How bizarre that such an archaic notion still exists and how pathetically tragic that religion is the base of all human conflict and misery, while it's leaders pretend exactly the opposite and the followers are so terrified of dying they worship at the feet of these medicine men fakes who have figured out a way to earn a good living and ego gratifying respect (think fear) without lifting a finger. It is of course to their advantage to keep the myth operating, just as the affluent encourage (or make "law) overbreeding and under education so they will have a multitude from which to choose their slave labor. (think republican). Maybe human beings will always be territorial and greedy (and gullible)in dererence to their own instincts (which they refuse to study or even acknowledge) but the educated should by now have figured out that religion, all religions, do more harm than good, for the simple, no brainer reason that they cause divisiveness and hatred to an unspeakably evil level for all those who may have come to, inherited or been indoctrinated with a different interpretation for the "ticket to eternal life".
If there really was a devil (an ignorant concept if there ever was one) then he would be laughing his ass off at the irony of having the religious god sayers and bible thumpers torturing and killing each other off by the millions. When our country was founded the leaders were
theists and religion was deliberately left out of politics, actually forbidden in our schools, for very good reason. It was inflamatory and conducive to hatred. That it got turned around is a manipulative method used by the unscrupulous to propel their own ambition by perpetuating fear of the unknown and promise of eternal life - something human beings have no ability to accept and came to the forfront of everyday life and therefor popular after 911.
Religion should be a private thing like consenting adult sex and all organized religion ignored, boycotted, outlawed and condemned (like nudity or pissing in public) for the evil cover up of corruption and hypocrisy that it is. Those who find comfort in pretense of an after life should quietly and privately follow their own beliefs without trying to pollute the rest of the world with their twisted or silly opionions. There just might someday come to be Peace on Earth.
Posted by: dy foley on 03/30/08 at 10:04 AM Respond
God bless you, Ms Dickerson.
Your analysis is indispensable for me (60 year old white man who has lived most of his life the Hawaii- a virtual racial and cultural utopia) in understanding the complex issues in this history making campaign.
It was great to see the national television air-time for a Catholic priest (in Chicago?) who can deliver "Jeremiads" with the best of them defending Rev. Wright's integrity and patriotism, and Louis Farrakan's Million Man March--and compliments of Bill Oreilly, no less.
with sincere aloha,
kokuaguy in hawaii
Posted by: kokuaguy on 04/03/08 at 8:51 PM Respond
dy foley, you need to look at yourself in the mirror, to see the face of hate. Your post is nothing but hate. I will send Pastor Wright over to you to set you straight, scared straight.
Posted by: Tyrone Johnson on 04/04/08 at 7:44 AM Respond
This link answers Morton Klein's attack on Rev. Wright.
http://www.timwise.org/
Posted by: bennie on 04/05/08 at 11:29 AM Respond
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