So... why exactly would "punching back" be a bad thing then? It might not earn him any votes (that he wasn't going to get anyway) but any time Fox is made to seem less credible in the public sphere, a small victory has been won I'd say.

just proves politicans will sell their soul for a vote.

maybe in his mind he has stated he would even talk to the enemies.

read this this is what fox news is all about but american people dont have a clue.

they think the system still works and can be fixed.

must rewrite constitution and clean out all of wash.

http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html

I still don't understand what he is being so p.c. about all the irrelevant garbage they keep bringing up. I understand it's because he's running for pres, but at some point you just have to look Hillary and the media in the eye and ask " who the F cares about this stuff? I'm running for president to make a change! Why does it matter what someone else said or who I worked with. Our government, pres and vice pres are totally corrupt and I'm not so get over it!!"

I HATE OUR MEDIA. THEY SHIFT THE FOCUS TO STUFF THAT DOESN'T MATTER. TALK ABOUT BRITNEY AND PARIS INSTEAD OF HOW 9/11 WAS PROBABLY AN INSIDE JOB. TALK ABOUT OBAMA'S PASTOR INSTEAD ABOUT THE TOPICS THAT MATTER. DON'T COVER THE WAR UNLESS IT'S TO TALK ABOUT AMERICAN LOSSES. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE IRAQI'S THAT HAVE DIED?

Mother Jones needs it's own new channel.

I was with you J... up until looney tune "inside job" comment.

Hey People,

"Inside Job"...? This si the BIGGEST problem with the left (liberal, progressive, etc). So many people really beleive crap like that...!!! And when you try and convice mainstream America to go along with yoru ideas, your bottom dwellers mention things like that and the American people think of you as a JOKE..!!!
And you wonder why middle america thinks that you are rotting our country from thei inside...?

Bill

BHO needs to go on fox news because he is missing connecting with 10's of millions fo people. You may not like it but the majority of our country LIKES fox news. That is the reason why the channel is so successfull..:-)
Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot", that is what the dems are doing by NOT appearing on fox. Even though i have to agree that any liberal who appears gets ripped apart, but not for who they are, it is for the rejected ideas that they put fourth.
Most of the country thinks that the democrat party is cobbled together by every fringe group imaginable, and you dems are being rejected out of hand... You are also being abandoned by the majority of joe-six packs.
You need to get a clue, and stop pandering to every fringe group, and start trying to attract back "Regular" people..huh?

Bill

Again we have troll boy Bill blathering on about how middle of the road he is while still being a pig headed reactionary bigot of a troll. Bill does your constant BS bother you as much as it does the rest of us? Last time you claimed BHO was avoiding the media the day he did a interview on the Daily Show, which was also a day before I saw him on MSNBC answering questions from a large group of reporters. Now you claim that Fox somehow is justified in putting on supreme a-holes like O'Reilly who bash all guest who disagree with them because everyone they attack is just wrong? Lets review the simple fact of the Freedmen style Reganomic economy we've been putting into place since before I was born: we have given away billions in tax cuts to the wealthiest people in the country, implemented free trade measures, and deregulated markets only to have stagnant or shrinking income for the majority of Americans and record federal deficits, millions of lost jobs, and of course repeated economic woes caused first by unmonitored companies like Enron cooking the books and then by banks playing fiscal games and accruing power in ways that were once illegal because they cause problems like the housing crisis. I sincerely hope you've enjoyed being pissed on by trickle down economics Bill but last I heard most people in the country were tired of it and liked left leaning economics better so they were planning to vote for change both in congress and the white house :)

Obama is a racist. I have more respect for David Duke PHD.

That is some nasty troll BS BillyJo, do you want to add to the inbreed redneck stereo type with your special ed comments?

mr z.,

WOW, You seem a bit touched...? Are you that afraid of your "Champion" being face to face with the "Best of the Best"...? I do not care where BHO chooses to debate, it doesn't matter where, he will be crucified...!!! Him sitting in that pew for 20 yrs and not doing ANYTHING about his children being indoctrinated in that black KKK style..?
How come I can't take MY kids to the white church..? Why is me doing what YOUR president does a BAD thing..? You people are such Hypocrites...
Almost ALL of your assertions are the result of cyclical things..
Kind of like the CLIMATE business..? HUH..?
HAHAHAHA

GOD, you are sooo easy to dismiss... I surely hope that you are not going to the same school my son is, you will be shamed in every one of your classes..:-)

Oh... You asked about my assertion about the ice and global warming... MJ had an article about just such a thing..:-) If you can't find it I will help you with a link, but since you spend so much time here.. I am sure you have read it and are "Re-evaluating" you stance.... HAHAHHAA

Bill

http://www.motherjones.com/blue_marble_blog/archives/2008/01/6832_antarctic_sea_i.html

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Hey Mr Z...

Read this..:-) No matter what they try and say, everything has CHANGED in one year..!!!!

You need to change YOUR ideas.. HAHAHAHAHA

BIll

billy joe were your parents first cousins.

honest abe was wrong a divided nation can stand alone.

check out how much the southern states cost the taxpayers in the north.

as far as fox noise this is corp media fascism at its best.

"first cousins?"

And I thought amoebae reproduce via binary fission.

Or turds are just extruded?

No parents involved. The depth of depravity exposes the shallow source.

Hillary's Problem Ahead....The Weather !

I just checked the forecast for the next 2 weeks in Indiana and N. Carolina and noticed that Hillary may have one major problem ahead....The Weather ! For the next 2 weeks you will notice that all of Hill and Bill's rallys will be in outdoor venues....parks...back yards...parking lots...etc.. The reason? She's so broke she can't afford to rent halls anymore for her appearances. So they are forced to holding their rallys in 'free' outdoor venues. Problem is....it's supposed to rain alot in both Indiana and N. Carolina over the next couple weeks. So what will they do ? They can't afford to go indoors....they can't cancel...And now that she has been known not to pay her bills the halls want their money up front.That's where the Hill supporters come in. If you are a true, strong supporter of Hillary....she needs you all to do an Indian...'Hope it DON'T' raindance ! Seriously....she needs your help. Just stand in the mirror and start your don't raindance jig...but then stop....look in the mirror....and ask yourself.... Is this REALLY who you think should be running America !

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(A Multi-Racial Grassroots Org...Dedicated To Truth)

Wow Bill, you proved some of my previous points, you pull a lot of stuff out of context and twist it into BS lies to support your position. The article you cite reaffirms global warming not disproves it. Furthermore you come off as an ideological nut bag, you cannot fight the fact that Regan style economics has hurt the middle class in this country with facts so you dismiss it. You continually claim that BHO is in the black KKK based on a sound bite with out context, which is of course BS spin. I heard the entire speech on Bill Moyers after Wright did an interview, he chose some foolish words to end a speech about governments committing crimes throughout history, but black KKK? I think not. You sir display an undue fear of those from other races being racist, I strongly believe this to be a symptom of your own bigotry.

I hope you're enjoying this back and forth, Michael Z. I learned how useless it was to debate with this individual a week or two ago. Trying to have a discussion with certain people reminds me of this old folk proverb: 'In an argument with a fool, you will always lose.' I found that to be true of myself, considering the time I put into trying to actually have a back and forth with the person you have been sparring with here. [Sparring is too grand a word - you would BOTH have to be making good points and ARTICULATELY for it to be sparring.]

"With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plea; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost."

William Lloyd Garrison (1805 - 1879)

That's a great quote, capt-Hussien.

Arguing with a pig headed troll like Bill is kinda useless, he is beyond all reason and committed to that special feeling that S. Colbert dubbed 'truthyness'.