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McClellan and Me: Why this White House Stonewaller Has No Right To Complain About the Press
Excuse me if I'm resentful of the attention Scott McClellan, George W. Bush's onetime presidential press secretary, is receiving for finally telling the obvious truth that the Bush White House deceived the public about the Iraq war. Though McClellan's account has punch coming from an insider, he's late to the party. Some of us made the case when it counted--back in 2002 and 2003, before the war was launched, and in the following years--and we also maintained that the deceptive measures of the Bush administration extended beyond its PR campaign for war in Iraq. Yet back then McClellan was doing what he could to thwart such efforts. Now he says the media failed to confront the Bush administration forcefully enough. Which is true. But when reporters did try, McClellan put up a stonewall. So his complaint is like that of a thief who, after pulling off a caper, gripes that the incompetent police did not nab him. This is absurd. After all, before each press briefing, did McClellan go to the men's room and use a bar of soap to write on the mirror, "Stop me before I spin again"?
Let's turn to one example of McClellan's complicity--one that I know well, for it was an instance when McClellan spoke falsely to me.
McClellan's daily press briefing on September 29, 2003, was a rough one for him. The news had broken that the CIA had requested that the Justice Department investigate the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson's CIA identity. This meant that presidential aides could end up facing criminal charges. The reporters in the White House press room were in a justified frenzy. The CIA leak episode was now a full-force scandal. (Two months earlier, I had been the first reporter to note that the Plame leak was possibly a White House crime, but in the intervening period most of the media had ignored or neglected the story.)
Much of the press briefing that day was devoted to the CIA leak investigation. Answering questions about the Plame leak, McClellan declared, "that is not the way this White House operates." (Actually, it was.) He insisted that Bush knew that Rove was not involved in the leak. (Actually, Rove told at least two reporters about Valerie Wilson's CIA connection, which was classified information.) And McClellan said that Rove told him that he had played no role in the leak mess. (Actually, as just noted, Rove had.)
I was at the briefing, but by the time McClellan called on me, all of the leak-related queries had been asked. Even though I was keen on covering that story, I turned to another matter: the missing WMDs in Iraq and the prewar intelligence. A few days earlier, the House intelligence committee had sent then-CIA director George Tenet a letter saying that there had been "too many uncertainties" in the prewar intelligence on WMDs in Iraq. I asked,
Is the White House aware of the House Intelligence letter to the CIA on prewar intelligence, and what's the reaction to it? And does the President think that he was given bad or incomplete information that ultimately led to his decision to war?
McClellan replied that the CIA stood behind its prewar assessments. He went on to say:
We knew that Saddam Hussein had large, unaccounted for stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons....Then came September 11th, the attacks of September 11th. September 11th taught us that we must confront the new, dangerous threats of the 21st century, that we can no longer wait for threats to gather and come to our shores before it's too late. The nexus between outlaw regimes with weapons of mass destruction and terrorist organizations is the most dangerous threat of our times. And we must confront those threats before it's too late.
I had the chance to follow up. A few days earlier, news reports had disclosed that Secretary of State Colin Powell, during a February 2001 press conference in Egypt, had essentially said that Saddam posed no WMD threat: "[Saddam] has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors." And I decided to ask a question referencing this report. The following exchange ensued:
Q: You just said a moment ago that: we knew there were large unaccountable -- unaccounted stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. In 2001, in March or February, Colin Powell said there weren't, as we learned of two days ago --
McClellan: Secretary Powell went before the United Nations and said, there were.
Q: No, no, listen to this. No, no, he said, at that point, there weren't. The [Defense Intelligence Agency] produced a classified --
McClellan: That's not what he said.
Q: -- assessment in October 2002 which said: we don't have any hard or reliable information about stockpiles. And the U.N. inspectors, themselves, said they had no hard information about stockpiles. So where are you getting your information from?
McClellan: Again, I think you're mischaracterizing Secretary Powell's comments. Secretary Powell went before -- and he said, that I never said that he was not a threat. He went before....Secretary Powell went before the United Nations and presented that very case to the world and made it very clear what was unaccounted for. Secretary Powell went through an exhaustive process to back up everything that he said, talking directly with members of the intelligence community....
Q: You said, before 9/11 we knew there were accounted stockpiles. [Powell] said, there weren't.
McClellan: Before 9/11 -- I'm glad you pointed that out, because September -- and, no, that is not what he said. September 11th taught us --
Q: He said that in --
McClellan: It was well documented by the United Nations Security Council that there were undocumented stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.
Q: That's not true....You are mischaracterizing U.N. reports.
McClellan: We're going to move on. I think I've answered this question.
McClellan, of course, had not answered the question. He had kept on insisting that Powell had not said what he indeed had said at that Egyptian press conference in 2001. Here was a journalist attempting to press McClellan on a major contradiction in the Bush administration's stance on Iraq's WMDs--in 2001, Iraq had nothing significant; in 2003, it possessed a major arsenal--and McClellan countered with a false statement and denied undeniable facts.
I was a bit flummoxed by his response. How do you deal with someone who tells you that two plus two is not four and sticks to that position? McClellan was engaged in basic stonewalling: repeating an inaccurate assertion to fend off an inconvenient question. He did this throughout his stint as press secretary, saying whatever he could to protect the president and keep the truth under wraps. He's right these days to remind us that the media screwed up bigtime by not sufficiently scrutinizing White House claims about the purported threat from Iraq and the Iraq war. But as a fellow who made the job of reporters tougher by mangling and obscuring the truth he's in no position to accuse anyone of failing the nation.
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It does make sense that the press, Rove, Libby & possibly Cheney were in cahoots to dupe Bush and McClellan. Maybe Jeff Gannon could ask Dana Perino to confirm this?
The emperor still has no clothes! But, when will it be a giant one-page-sized headline in our major newspapers: "Bush Lies!"? Sometime in 2009? These people have cleverly manipulated the dignity of the office and the ethics of journalism to advance an elaborate tissue of deception for the sole purpose of amassing and consolidating power, but many media moguls have let them and profited richly. Do they care if David Corn catches them in a contradiction yesterday, today, or tomorrow? No. Will Scott McClellan be rendered incommunicado to Guantanamo Bay? No. I'm certain his royalties from sales of his book to journalists who are not learning anything they didn't already know are paying for a vacation home or a yacht or both. Get paid to lie and then get paid more to admit that you lied for a living; it's the new American dream. At this stage of the game, prison terms are the only things that these people might fear, and these are more remote than the possiblity a Volkswagon-Sized meteor will strike the White House this afternoon while George is lying through his teeth in the Rose Garden.
Posted by: Jim on 05/30/08 at 6:49 AM Respond
David,
It must have been frustrating to participate in those briefings, but at least you had a shot. The rest of us had to stand by and watch. It reminded me of professional wrasslin' back in the 60s, where the "bad guy" wrassler was cheating on the good guy and beating the crap out of him and everyone in the crowd saw it but the ref did nothing. Except that the ref in this case was dead from the neck up and living in the Oval Office or cuttin' brush in Crawford.
What I would like to know is why the press establishment put up with it at all? What would happen if the WH press corps just said "We're not going to play along with your lies. To hell with my seat on Air Force 1, to hell with your non-answers, to hell with your 'un-named spokesmen speaking upon condition of anonymity'", and refused to print ANY of it?
If the press had refused to play along, at least the media wouldn't have become the amplifier and echo chamber that scared Americans into grudgingly going along with Bush's war. I say grudgingly, because I distinctly remember seeing a Gallop poll right before Bush ordered the invasion that showed that 54% of Americans thought that diplomacy had not run its course and should be allowed to do so.
I understand that there are economic advantages to playing ball with the WH, but if we cannot fix this information problem we're going to go down in history as the civilization who had the best communications system ever devised and yet knew almost nothing.
-Wexler
Posted by: William W. Wexler on 05/30/08 at 8:49 AM Respond
I would agree with William in general...
David, here's the key distinction: McClellan was stonewalling y'all- I get that. And you were hard on him in those briefings- we get that.
What the media did *not* do was go to the viewers/readers and say "Why is this man stonewalling us, what is he hiding? Ask why we are going to war, don't ask why not!"
But instead, the reports we got were "McClellan said today that (5 second soundbite of stonewalling)," which wasn't enuogh to marshall public opinion to really press for answers, especially in light of the tidal wave of pro-war news from FNC, etc.
Posted by: Eh on 05/30/08 at 9:07 AM Respond
Now McClellan's asserted that the greenlight to out Valerie Plame came from W himself. Why is it impossible to prosecute this fothermucker? McClellan's stonewalling isn't what hurts the most, neither is the press' failure to attack the lies, nor so much of America's sycophantic delight at drinking the koolaid (I'm talking to you, weird 28%) - it's the fact nothing will come of the truth. No justice will be served. The cheaters prospered and there isn't anything anyone can do, regardless of mountains of evidence. It's way too depressing for a foggy afternoon.
Posted by: db on 05/30/08 at 10:11 AM Respond
Excellent piece detailing the stonewalling. As a solution could reporters/editors decide not to publish quotes when they know they are lies? Otherwise the press are just media outlets for liars.
Posted by: Stewart on 05/30/08 at 10:22 AM Respond
After reading your blurb and considering your complaint that Scott M. "stonewalled" you and other reporters, I even more believe that Mr. McClellan makes an excellent point regarding the timidity of the 'press'. Your commentary seems to make the case that [for the Press] the only source of information regarding the operation of our government is the White House Press Secretary. Assuming that is the argument of many of your colleagues, I well understand why the Press is [rightly, I believe] being criticized for its actions [better stated, 'lack of actions'] during the run-up to the War and thereafter.
I would suggest that the 'Press' refrain from criticizing Mr. McClellan's current truthfulness and start digging behind the talking points disseminated each day by the current Press Secretary, Ms Perino. Then, maybe in Ms Perino's book, the Press will be vindicated and proclaimed as tireless, unbiased, well-read and well-versed protectors of the Peoples' best interests.
Posted by: Bud Byrd on 05/30/08 at 10:58 AM Respond
Just want to add my voice in agreement with William Wexler and Eh...yes, he was shamefully lying & stonewalling the press throughout his tenure, but the press-at-large continued to accept & print those lies without disclaimers. Like Greg Palast has pointed out, our mass media outlets have little concern for investigation into Executive Branch matters, when it's so much easier (and cheaper) to simply regurgitate whatever the White House is willing to put on the spoon.
Posted by: nic on 05/30/08 at 11:48 AM Respond
The truth is:
The M$M had (and still has) an access fetish.
They are so scared they might get cut-off from the teat of disinformation that they are timid. It is pathetic.
The M$M drives a narrative and the masses eat it up like manna from cable heaven. War sells and blood gets ratings.
Jingoistic platitudes capture the attention and empty eyes stare blankly into the TV with passing interest.
We have a generation of “hooked on phonics” idiots that can’t spell or read so they get what they can from the headlines. The M$M obliges with headline journalism - nothing deeper needed just some blather in the form of text nobody reads anymore.
The M$M has failed - no amount of stonewalling stopped the M$M from exposing the lies of Dumya and the BS in the run up to war.
War is a most profitable venture and profit is what the M$M is both making and selling - so says the prophet profit.
As if a presidents spokes person would actually be honest, candid and forthright? PUH-lease.
The so called reporters didn't report they used cliff notes, they passed the final but failed the class. The M$M was designed to fail Snotty McClueless only enabled them.
Were the people better informed or manipulated? Were the liars and warmongers called to account or sold as top drawer?
Pretty obvious the M$M succeeded at their business goals and since business has no morals or social goals - who cares what they say, eh?
That will never be Snotty’s fault. Time for the M$M to start doing their collective jobs or they will be as obsolete as the concept of honest presidential spokes persons.
Posted by: capt - Hussein on 05/30/08 at 12:00 PM Respond
The MSM has gazed into its navel and declared itself blameless.
So what's new?
Posted by: bablhous on 05/30/08 at 12:48 PM Respond
Back when it became obvious (at least to me) that McClellan et al were just flat out lying, I wondered why the media kept bothering to show up for the trash-feeding? Granted, there is a limited source of info, but if everyone just stopped showing up, would he have been forced to quit? Or Perino, or anyone else?
Posted by: Gary M on 05/30/08 at 1:06 PM Respond
I think there's been a few too many "we did it first, so to hell with recent reports on the same issue" type of articles on MJ Headlines lately (like the Parsley video). Just be happy that *anything* comes from the mainstream or the right about the truth--be aware that for most people in America, this is the first they've heard of it.
Posted by: LRS on 05/30/08 at 1:17 PM Respond
While I would prosecute the whole Bush junta for war crimes, I would be inclined to let McClellan off on the lesser charge of "aiding and abetting." And since he's turned State's evidence, I'd be inclined to reduce his sentence once the principals are convicted. Sure, Scott's hands are bloody. But at least he's making the criminals (Administration and Media) squirm. I'd cut him some slack.
Posted by: VivaldiCO on 05/30/08 at 1:21 PM Respond
I am now watching Wolf question Scott on CNN. This is nothing but more LIES to sell a book and get ratings. Many of us feel a whole bunch of this Administration, past and present, should be put on trial before the War Crimes Tribunal [Commission], for the lead up to The War and The War itself.
Posted by: lylepink on 05/30/08 at 1:23 PM Respond
Now I share Jim's fantasy about a Volkswagen-Sized meteor.
Posted by: Ben Waranowitz on 05/30/08 at 1:26 PM Respond
What if The White House gave a Press conference and nobody came?
Posted by: Ben Waranowitz on 05/30/08 at 1:28 PM Respond
McCLELLAN: AMERICANS SHOUD'VE PAID MORE ATTENTION !!! It is amazing watching the media squirm from the truth that they were all major accomplices in the Bush Regime's deception campaign regarding the entire Iraq invasion. From the over 6 so-called military experts who appeared over 4500 times on cable news lying to the American public (were paid by Pentagon to lie), to the former Bush staffers who had been telling us that we had been lied to (O'Neil, Richard Clark and now McClellan) with very little if any coverage on cable news, anyone who watched cable news regularly could see the non-stop 3rd World style media manipulation. Bottom line....THE MEDIA HAS BETRAYED AMERICA ! Even now, as the media works tirelessly to discredit McClellan, you can see the wheels of deception turning in CYA lockstep. Media folks that we trusted are revealing themselves to be complicit through their desire to join the Regime's discredit campaign. David Gregory, Chuckie T, Anderson, Wolf and even Andrea Mitchell is asking the question why is Scotty speaking out now, without reviewing the fact that her own husband Alan Greenspan waited until he left the Regime to expose that we invaded Iraq FOR THE OIL ! (as he wrote in his memoir). The real story behind McClellan's book is not just how the Bush Regime has betrayed and deceived America....but how THE MEDIA was the #1 chief accomplice. America should demand an investigation of the media ! HEADS SHOULD ROLL !!!!
B4B
Posted by: Greg Jones on 05/30/08 at 2:26 PM Respond
At least some of the truth is getting out after almost 8 years of lies and corruption. Yes, Scott is a little late, but at least he's finally speaking up.
Maybe this will get the ball rolling to finally put some of the Bush admin behind bars? Probably not, but I can always dream.
Posted by: J on 05/30/08 at 2:32 PM Respond
McClellan was paid to do a job and he did it unlike the so called "liberal media" they failed to question any of the White House propoganda.
The Media never made an effort to explain what would happen if we deposed Saddam,and never explained the possible civil war that could explode between Sunni, Shia and Kurds. Never debunked any of the lies told by Cheney, Powell. Bush, etc. Never discussed that Iran would be empowered once Saddam was removed from power in the area. Never emphasized that Israel has sufficient military strength to defend themselves if they were ever attacked in force. The media simply rolled over for the White House and are equally responsible for the damage done to our Country. The greatest crime was that the strongest military Nation in the world launched a preemptive war against Iraq, that was absolutely no threat to our security.
Posted by: Vincent Guadagnino on 05/30/08 at 2:33 PM Respond
Yeah, I'm SICK of these guys making money off things they were complicit in. Pardon the dreaded nazi analogy, but the difference between saying 'hey, I was playing for the team', or 'they fooled me, too' versus 'I was doing what I was ordered to do' is just semantics. We killed those guys--or they killed themselves--before they could spin it in a book.
And the media continues to put him out there and BE USED AGAIN. As long as profits are the driving force behind journalism I don't see a solution here. And the media has fallen into this mode of "he said/she said" and not taking responsibility to make informed obersvations LIKE MCCLELLAN CONTINUED TO STATE THIS AS FACT BUT IT'S NOT. Being "objective" by repeating lies and misinformation only serves the purposes of the liars.
If we don't fix this we're done, baby. Democracy can't survive without good journalism to inform the public.
Posted by: Bob on 05/30/08 at 2:38 PM Respond
You all got to be kidding, right? Bush and Cheney would never lie to this country. They are honest Americans that have a really hard job I think they're doing it well. Iraq needed our help and we know Saddam had WMD's so we're all the better for taking the lead to remove him from power.
I have faith in our Government and our leaders. My bible guides my life and I believe that we'll be loved by the world once we take over Iran as well.
Posted by: Pete on 05/30/08 at 3:25 PM Respond
Hey Pete,
You can stick the book until it tickles your jejunum. Better yet, go die in your crusade.
From an athieit in exile. Keep church and state separate so Pete can't impose his fairy tales on me and others who can see the reality before their eyes.
Posted by: dan on 05/30/08 at 3:40 PM Respond
Sorry fellow atheists, I didn't catch the spelling error.
Posted by: dan on 05/30/08 at 3:42 PM Respond
You have some nerve saying McClellan should stop his whining. You were complicit by not just drinking the kool-aid, but by passing it on to the public as fact. Why didn't YOU protest being spun and fed a pack of lies? Doesn't the press have responsibility to the public too? Until you have some backbone and say enough is enough you should just sit down and shut up!
Posted by: Elaine Baly on 05/30/08 at 3:58 PM Respond
Pete, Bush has been lying all his life, and Cheney never has told us about the present state of his chum that he shot in the face. Neither know anything of war and still don't. Please note that no Bush relatives serve in this unholy war that never ends.
Posted by: Audrey on 05/30/08 at 5:42 PM Respond
Wexler nailed it. The rest of us watched helplessly in horror like a nightmare where your limbs are paralyzed as the masses sopped up the WH line like so much gravy. It makes you feel like Eddy Arnold in Green acres, surrounded by so much absurdity that you feel like the one that has lost his mind. Arrrrrgh! And now HE, Scotty McLyin, wants to make amends in some 12 step program? Whew, that felt good.
BTW, when will anyone in the M$M point out the fact that of all the Bushie attacks on McC, not one has referrenced the veracity of his claims. Just character assassination and "not the Scott I once knew" rhetoric. Sound familiar?
Posted by: AV on 05/30/08 at 6:04 PM Respond
Then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice in July 2001: "Saddam does not control the northern part of the country. We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
How much chemical weapons did the USA have in March 2003?
“Though the United States is required by international treaty to be rid of chemical weapons by 2007, nearly 75 percent of the nation’s now-banned arms still exist. It amounts to a nationwide stockpile of 23,415 TONS of liquid sarin nerve agent, blister-causing mustard agent, a deadly nerve liquid called VX and variants…. Anniston, Alabama has 77,000 M-55 rockets filled with sarin or VX.”(St. Petersburg Times)
Posted by: Keith22 on 05/30/08 at 7:11 PM Respond
Powell later said this:
POWELL, 5/15/01: "The Iraqi regime militarily remains fairly weak. It doesn't have the capacity it had 10 or 12 years ago. It has been contained."
Posted by: Steve J. on 05/30/08 at 7:22 PM Respond
OK, so you're now resentful of the attention McClellan is now getting, and your points about his earlier obfuscatory role are well-taken. But you're adopting an unproductive purely narcissistic line of complaint here, rather than addressing the more important issue of the greater common good. Even though arriving late to the party, is it not now a good thing that McClelland has finally come around and used his position and influence to shine a bigger spotlight on the horrible truths of the Bush administration? I can appreciate that you were aware of this truth much earlier, but now it can become even better known and more widely accepted because McClelland is now turning his earlier insider position to advocate for greater truth and honesty and integrity in government. His is a hugely valuable contribution, in my view, even if not news to many.
Take a more positive view. Focus now more on the greater good that he has now begun to accomplish.
It's unfortunate that so much attention is now focused on attacking McClelland, rather than focusing on the abuses and evils of the Bush White House. That's what Repubilcans have been so good at doing over the years. When someone advances a critical perspective, they just get angry and diss the messenger rather than allow what has been said to register.
McClelland's book raises (or re-raises) important questions and truths about the man and party our country elected, so unwisely, to serve the public interest for 8 years. I hope the voting public can learn enough to avoid ever doing this again, but, as McClelland does point out in his book, there is a kind of person, leader, and party who cannot learn, who do not know how to learn, because they are to closed to knowing or even letting themselves contemplate the truth or reality even of their own actions and policies.
Posted by: Michael O'Brien on 05/30/08 at 8:15 PM Respond
This is precisely the point Greg; Bush is a first class liar but pragmatic too. He knew instinctively that if he did Israel’s bidding and attacked Iraq, then he will be shielded by the Israeli agents who own most our so-called mainstream media (if you ever watched Fox News). We all know that when AIPAC bestows protection on anyone, he will become untouchable. After all, the war was the brainchild of the Neocons; who, mostly, have dual citizenship but single loyalty (to Israel) and/or married to Israeli women. That is the main reason of why the media covered up for Bush and Cheney and they both knew it.
To prove the point; let us look at Nancy Pelosi’s action when she became speaker of the house. First, she smothered the aspiration of the progressive Democrats in the house by removing impeachment from the table. Second, she removed all reference to requiring Bush to seek congressional approval before attacking Iran from war-funding bills in the house. Guess who ordered Pelosi to do so in both cases; you guest it right: AIPAC did.
Posted by: Zack on 05/30/08 at 8:33 PM Respond
Those carrying on about the media's role in spreading the lies propogated by Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith et. al. in 2001-2002 are forgetting one thing.The truth was out there and the media didn't totally ignore it. High profile military\security\intelligence types including then-members of the joint chiefs went public with their opinions that Saddam was not a threat to the U.S. Some like like Zinni(the Bush's mideast envoy), Baer and Odom even predicted the long, bloody civil war and humanitarian catastrophe his downfall would ignite. It was no secret, they appeared on CNN, in the WP and NYT op ed pages and got significant media coverage. If I recall, polls back then said 30% of the country opposed the idea of invading Iraq. Instead of patting ourselves on the back for being right and blaming the media and Bush's mouthpieces like McLellan for drowning our voices out, we should be asking ourselves if we did everything in our power to make our voices heard above the deafening drumbeat for war back in 2002. I don't think we did.
Posted by: sjhdesign on 05/31/08 at 4:24 AM Respond
sjhdesign, I think you're exaggerating. While there were SOME cooler heads on TV in 2001-2002, my own recollection is that the vast majority of the media were boosters for the war.
Also, I'd ask critics of McClellan like Mr. Corn to cut Scott some slack, for a couple of reasons. First, if Scott in the past was guilty of the sin of lying, can't we welcome his repentance without condoning the sin? Second, if you hate Scott and think he's a tool, isn't he still less of a tool than, say, Ari Fleischer, Dan Bartlett, George Bush, etc.? Fourth, and most important, distracting us by making Scott the story instead of Bush's lies is WHAT THEY WANT!
Posted by: David on 05/31/08 at 5:35 AM Respond
I believe Powell may have been referring to CIA Chief George Tenent's July 2001 briefing to Congress regarding Iraq, Saddam, and no "evidence" he has WMD or is a threat to the US. Then he went on to describe the REAL THREAT posed by Al Queda and Bin Laden and that THEY ARE our new enemy and concern.
Posted by: bowncr1212 on 05/31/08 at 5:35 AM Respond
Mother Jones I am shocked that you would publish an article to blame the victim(s) rather than the perpetrators who were, at least, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove. Now is not the time for the press to get defensive. Now is an opportunity to campaign for prosecution!
Is not this article "stonewalling" against the real issue here?
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Posted by: Penny on 05/31/08 at 7:15 AM Respond
David, I'm not a media expert like yourself but outside of Fox I don't recall any major media outlet openly clamoring for war. As you know better than anyone the WH has unlimited media access so it shouldn't be surprising that the airwaves would be clogged with Bush operatives and their political allies selling the invasion. But the media can't ignore hundreds of thousands out in the streets demonstrating. Nor can congress, particularly the many democrats who voted in favor of the war, ignore millions of emails from constituents threatening to throw them out of office in november if they vote to authorize the invasion. Neither of those happened, at least not in the numbers needed to make an impact. For whatever reason, tens of millions of Americans who opposed the war stayed on the sidelines at a key moment in history when it was vital that their voices be heard.
Posted by: sjhdesign on 05/31/08 at 7:44 AM Respond
Doesnt matter.
Once McClellan is confirmed, NOT a doulbe-agent stool pigeon somehow still working for Bush, MCCLELLAN WILL BE GOING GO HEAVEN.
Doesnt matter what he did. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME, REPUBLICANS? Can you say that you will be going to paradise for eternity, instead of some horrifying burning eternal lake of fire?
Posted by: OH on 05/31/08 at 8:20 AM Respond
sjhdesign, I did not earlier nor do I now claim to be a media expert. I'm merely a person who, no doubt like you, watched horror, in real-time in 2001-2003 as the Bush administration waged one assault after the other on democracy, diplomacy, reason, you name it, and my recollection is that they were abetted by the mainstream media. The New York Times, for instance, ran with poorly-vetted Judy Miller stories about aluminum tubes, chemical weapons trailers, etc. NBC's Tim Russert talked about how convincing Colin Powell's UN presentation was, when clearly it was not. All of this is not to say that the American people are blameless. There's plenty of blame to go around, and a heavy helping does go to the mainstream media.
Posted by: David on 05/31/08 at 8:25 AM Respond
I don't think that its a coincidence that the careers of those journalists who passed on the lies to their viewers, readers and listeners thrived, while those who didn't found themselves either unemployed, as Phil Donahue was, or in stagnant careers.
Truth telling was, and remains largely a carrer killer for mainstream media journalists.
Posted by: Jack the Canuck on 05/31/08 at 10:49 AM Respond
The collective attempt at reconciling the past baffles me ...
I am all for making individuals accountable for their actions, but the immediate question should not be who's to blame for what and why something happened years ago.
Regardless of Mr. McClellan's motives, the information is there (and has been), so what are we - the people, the press, everybody - going to do about it now? Are we going to keep asking "shoulda-woulda-coulda" or are we going to learn from it?
So far, I'm not seeing any difference in the mainstream media ....
Posted by: Marcus on 05/31/08 at 10:57 AM Respond
heh... the rats are jumping the ship. McClellan is nothing but pragmatic.
If a Democrat wins in Nov08, scores of Bushites will become targets. Lies, perjury, corruption - most of these people are at risk of prosecution. They basically should be in jail.
So Scott took a sensible precaution - like Ari (an even cleverer rat) before him.
Posted by: kai on 05/31/08 at 11:59 AM Respond
McClellan is scurrying like a rat to jump ship before it sinks! Its obvious to everyone that "Bush the Lesser" is going to go down in world history as a "boob".
McClellan "played ball" for 7 years & "parroted" any & all lies peddled by the Bush Junta.
In no way do I buy into his spin that he was manipulated & used all along without his knowledge. McClellan has been a "Good Nazi" & this is his attempt to jump ship early.
Posted by: Steve Dallas on 05/31/08 at 1:09 PM Respond
Mr. Corn,
The McClellan revelations have been the unwelcome guest at today's media party, because all the pretend reporters are made to look like the fools that they are, and yes, you were one of the few who saw through the lies even before the war was launched.
Having noted that, I admit to some confusion as to your displeasure with McClellan today. The man was Press Secretary, that is, the paid mouthpiece of the President. That was the man's job, and if his boss spews lies, wherein is a mouthpiece's responsibility? As mouthpiece, he was intimately involved in the delivery of lies, but not of their conception, and I would submit that the latter act is the crime. Would McClellan hold noble status for you had he exploded one day in the pressroom about all the lies he had been forced to tell? Tony Snow would have standing in his place the very next day, and the lies would have rolled on undisturbed.
No question that being press secretary for GWBush is a suck-ass job, but as long as he held that job, there is not one thing he could have done differently. Given the propensity for the rest of the pressroom to transmit the lies, it looks unseemly to condemn the man when at last he calls the lies for what they are. It was his job to tell the lies, was it the newsies' jobs to reprint them unchallenged?
Wha say we aim at the right target.
Posted by: jeffreydj on 05/31/08 at 2:32 PM Respond
http://www.jimcrowhistory.org/resources/lessonplans/hs_es_etiquette.htm
Your parents and grand parents mitreated an entire race of people - and thought it was cool.
So, what is really in your hearts !
All catholic folks sat around while thier priest raped thier kids
Posted by: rlp-politcal on 06/01/08 at 8:01 AM Respond
David,
There has always been a segment of the media (and public) that consistently believed the Iraq War would become a disaster, beginning at the occupation phase to be precise. The rationale for beginning the war was dubious all along also. You and your colleagues on the left were correct to be skeptical about this war. Having said that, I would maintain that the majority of public opinion disagreed with left leaning positions when the war began. I am very interested in some discussion about whether or not the MSM follows public opinion or actually reports information regardless of whether or not it follows public opinion. I am inclined to believe that the MSM follows public opinion for the sake of ratings. I believe ratings are the number one driver of reporting particularly in the MSM. The general public is more likely to gravitate to coverage that says what it wants to hear.
Posted by: George Seals on 06/01/08 at 12:48 PM Respond
McClellan has written a book that will sell well and so he can make a fortune.
Pretty simple. He lied as press secretary and he lied in his book. There is nothing ethical or moral about the presidential administration.
Good luck Mr. McClellan. You lied to us as press secretary and now you lie to us in your book. I hope somehow it's worth it to you.
Posted by: nakis on 06/02/08 at 7:17 AM Respond
wars have always been waged based on greed, lies, halftruths,stonewalling (or stonewailing), supremacism, hatred, illusions, rationalization, delusions, predictions, anger, lust for power and money.
peoples wage wars on lies, etc.; americans are a people; therefore, americans wage wars based on greed, hatred, lies, etc.
all american wars were waged based on lies.
and each american war presaged more wars, genocide, collective punishment for alleged crimes of individuals.
iraq war presages more warfare and not less or no warfare. wake up, finally!
stop talking whether bush lied or told the 'truth'. it is irrelevant. thank u
Posted by: bozhidar bob balkas on 06/02/08 at 9:15 AM Respond
wars have always been waged based on greed, lies, halftruths,stonewalling (or stonewailing), supremacism, hatred, illusions, rationalization, delusions, predictions, anger, lust for power and money.
peoples wage wars on lies, etc.; americans are a people; therefore, americans wage wars based on greed, hatred, lies, etc.
all american wars were waged based on lies.
and each american war presaged more wars, genocide, collective punishment for alleged crimes of individuals.
iraq war presages more warfare and not less or no warfare. wake up, finally!
stop talking whether bush lied or told the 'truth'. it is irrelevant. thank u
Posted by: bozhidar bob balkas on 06/02/08 at 9:18 AM Respond
Right on! db. Why can't that Jackass Bush be prosecuted? It makes me sick to think of what he, and his administration are getting away with. And thanks to David Corn for his tenacity. Did anyone- except 'Jeff Gannon'- really believe what McClellan was saying at the press briefings?
Posted by: br on 06/02/08 at 1:06 PM Respond
Scott McClellan has some of the bloody deeds of this Administration on his hands. It is a bit late for his revelations.
But it is still better now than never. He can show some other people the way out of the ideological nightmare the world has been subjected to for so many years, by exposing its failings from an insider's point of view.
I also have some sympathy for Scott's late conversion, having been through a similar process of shedding almost everything I thought was true - in my case both conservative politics and a very conservative religion.
Like Scott, I actively proselyted for years for the cause I thought I believed in. I was taught how to use tactics of manipulating people and the truth in pursuit of a supposedly higher purpose.
I gradually found my way out of the tight circle of delusion that I had been brought up into. It was a gradual, slow process. Scott has not gone all of the way yet ... he still hangs on to some of his adulation for George Bush, even as he is now realizing and admitting to participation in a colossal failure of ethics, and responsible governance.
The extended interview that Scott did with Keith Olbermann made it ever so apparent to me that Scott regrets what he did for George Bush very deeply.
While it is way too late for so many people that have suffered or died in an unjust, unncecessary war, Scott McClellan's conversion may help us find both a way out of the political failures, and to inform the public in ways that prevent this from happening again.
Posted by: Geoff Swenson on 06/02/08 at 10:23 PM Respond
The only good thing to come from Scott's book at this point in the Bush fiasco, was that many Americans are once more being awakend from the spin that the war is good and needs to continue for years to come.We need these type of questions and answers from Bush at every day of his worst presidency yet remaining.
Posted by: John Bakalik on 06/03/08 at 7:01 AM Respond
Scotty is a criminal, traitor, serial liar, and weenie scumbag.
The reason the "liberal" press did not press the WH is that there was and is virtually no "Liberal Press." The MSM is not "Liberal" unless Hitler and Stalin were "Liberal,” and there is an extensive network of Repocon propaganda outlets as well.
Scotty uses yet another Repocon propaganda lie, that the MSM is liberal, to cover his own criminal, and traitorous acts. To me that makes everything else he says extremely suspect. He is still a loyal Bushie and a Repocon mouth piece.
What I read of the tell-alls and mea culpas coming out of the Duhyba Administration is that these biographies are another aspect of the Karl Goebbles spinmeister machine. "Whatever we did wrong it was someone else’s fault. We're not guilty because we're patriotic and you're not, and anyway you’re a bunch of morons so lying to you is OK.” And they all seemingly exonerate Bush, and put more money in the pockets of Bushies.
Look for lots more of them, and they will all be cut from the same pattern.
But it is worth saying every time the "Liberal Press" lie comes up, that it is a lie. particularly since the use of that lie is part of the Repocon Goebbles’ propoganda approach and needs to be called a lie every time it passes out their lying back sides.
Posted by: Marnie on 06/03/08 at 11:07 AM Respond
Given the utter corrupt and Macheavellian nature of the Bush Republicans; why not view the current McClellen affair in its more radical (and logical)interpretation. It's just another Rove set up.
1: nothing is presented that could go to a grand jury
2: Even though he was the one telling the lies the cautionary message is for the press to be more aggressive.
therefore
3: Since Obama will probably have the bitter harvest of the Bush legacy why not "loose the dogs of war" to ensure a 4 year presidency.
I can hear the talking heads on Fox now, "oh, we won't make that mistake again."
This toady (McC) is part of the Texas Mafia and has NEVER been known to be off message. Why would that change? It's time to wake up and see that these fascists have organizational ability and long term goals.
Posted by: john finnan on 06/11/08 at 7:10 PM Respond
I hope no one is surprised by any of this.
It's what you get, when you let a cabal of morally-challenged throwbacks try to run government like a business -- for profit.
Posted by: Dan Mortenson on 07/18/08 at 12:02 AM Respond
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