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wayne's driving obsession began after 9/11. Before then, he drove "75 miles per hour in the left-hand lane," but in the wake of the attacks he vowed to minimize his personal consumption of Mideast oil. As he sees it, Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda received their operating funds from all the U.S. consumers who bought Saudi oil. That money paid for the construction work that made bin Laden's family rich. "If Osama bin Laden didn't have the money to burn," Wayne says, "he wouldn't have been able to do what he did. There was a direct relationship between our addiction to oil and the World Trade Center coming down."

Less consumption of Mideast oil would also make our economy less susceptible to spikes in the price of opec oil, which have triggered U.S. recessions. More than half the gas we pour into our vehicles in America is imported, and we send more than $4 billion a week abroad to buy oil. If we all got a 25 percent improvement in fuel economy (far less than the 50 percent improvement that Wayne and his hypermilers routinely get), we could reduce by half the oil we import from the Mideast for our cars. And then there's global warming. "I'm not just doing this for myself," Wayne told me before we met. "I'm doing this for my country and the world."

But driving with Wayne, you get the feeling it's not just about politics, and that's confirmed when he tells me about his father. For 50 years, Robert Gerdes has been writing down the mileage he gets from each tank of gas. Wayne remembers the vacation his family took from Winthrop Harbor, Illinois, to Florida when he was eight. His father drove the family car, a Buick LeSabre, and hauled an 18-foot travel trailer loaded with camping gear. The Buick got seven miles per gallon on the trip. "Every time we hit a steep hill it was, 'Whooooshhhh,' like the flushing of a toilet," says Wayne, "but it was flushing fuel. I'll never forget that sucking sound of the four-barrel carburetor. We visited Disney World, but I don't remember it."

in 2002, wayne bought a Toyota Corolla to replace the 1999 Nissan truck he had been using for his daily commute to the power plant. Online, he saw that "guys in Priuses were bragging about 44 mpg, and I was doing better in a Corolla." But it was driving his wife's Acura mdx that moved Wayne up to the next rung of hypermiler driving. That's because the suv came with a fuel consumption display (fcd), which shows mpg in real time. As he drove, he began to see how little things—slight movements of his foot, accelerations up hills, even a cold day—influenced his fuel efficiency. He learned to wring as many as 638 miles from a single 19-gallon tank in the mdx; he rarely gets less than 30 mpg when he drives it. "Most people get 18 in them," he says. The fcd changed the driving game for Wayne. "It's a running joke," he says, "but instead of a fuel consumption display, a lot of us call them 'game gauges'"—a reference to the running score posted on video games—"because we're trying to beat our last score—our miles per gallon."

If people could see how much fuel they guzzled while driving, Wayne believes they'd quickly learn to drive more efficiently. "If the epa would mandate fcds in every car, this country would save 20 percent on fuel overnight," he says. "They're not expensive for the manufacturers to put in—10 to 20 bucks—and it would save more fuel than all the laws passed in the last 25 years. All from a simple display."

since early in 2005, when gas prices rose past $2 a gallon, drivers all over the country have become more attentive to fuel efficiency. But the hypermilers set themselves apart in an event they refer to as the Prius Marathon, which took place in Pittsburgh in August 2005. It was undertaken by five men: Wayne; Dan Kroushl, an electrical engineer from Wexford, Pennsylvania; Dave Bassage, a West Virginian who until recently worked for the Department of Environmental Protection; Rick Reece, a geospatial analyst from South Carolina; and Bob Barlow, a Virginia attorney. They had all met online.

Kroushl got the idea after driving his Prius earlier that spring on a 15-mile portion of Route 65 near his home, when he was able to sustain 99.9 mpg, the highest reading that a Prius fcd can record. He posted what he had done online and asked if anyone had a device that could record higher mpgs. But nobody believed he had even reached 99.9. The car has a combined city/highway epa mpg estimate of 55, and even hypermilers with Priuses were only posting mpgs in the 60s and 70s. Kroushl wanted to prove the doubters wrong, so he invited other hypermilers to Pittsburgh to run the same stretch of Route 65—15 miles up and 15 miles back. Their goal was to break the record for most miles on a tank of gasoline in a Prius, which was 1,316 miles, recorded by a Japanese driver, at 85.85 mpg. But the American version of the car has a 12.8-gallon tank rather than the 15.9-gallon tank in the Japanese Prius. That meant the five men would have to top the Japanese mpg by about 20 percent, which would mean they'd have to sustain 100 mpg over 48 hours. Bassage described the event this way: "We're coming from all points of the compass to have fun going nowhere for a whole weekend in Pittsburgh."

The hypermilers cracked 100 mpg in their first four four-hour shifts. Back at their hotel, they posted fuzzy digital photographs of the Prius' fcds on greenhybrid.com.

On their first round, the men posted mpgs in the low hundreds, but as they drove, they talked on the phone, sharing fuel-saving tips with each other. On Saturday, Reece got 114.7, and Kroushl reached 115. On Sunday, Wayne beat 120. "I'd be getting 105 miles per gallon," Bassage told me, "and thinking I let down the team." By Sunday night, Kroushl, who had launched the endeavor, was getting sick of driving, and his wife had made it clear she wanted him to stop the nonsense and get home, so he began turning on the air conditioner and the defroster, to drink up gas faster. "The 'low fuel' light flashed for over nine hours," Bassage says. When the Prius, with Kroushl driving, finally ran out of gas and rolled to a stop, the five men had clocked 1,397 miles from just one 12.8-gallon tank of gas—a new record. They had averaged 109 miles per gallon.

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Hey Wayne, your mileage ain't worth my life! How many accidents has your stupid, illegal, and dangerous, fetish caused? Any dead yet or are you still working on that? http://fromzcorner.blogspot.com/200 7/05/hey-wayne-your-mileage-aint-worth-my.html
Posted by:FromzMay 27, 2007 11:02:29 AMRespond ^
For the sake of saving a few bucks? The man is a driving hazard. Straddling the right hand shoulder line, doing double the speed limit around corners, doing well under the speed limit in other areas. Just a matter of time before his luck runs out and his dangerous driving techniques get him or someone else killed. I say, put the extra 10 bucks a week in your tank and drive properly.
Posted by:MarkMay 28, 2007 12:52:42 PMRespond ^
Try it!! I am getting 48 to 49 mpg from an 85 Honda Civic I don’t go over 55 and have started turning to thing off in when ever I can I go slow and there have been no crashes or even close calls around me. I fact my driving must be hyper vigilant to archive the mileage I get, no reading, cell phones, or other dangerous silly non driving activities. No if you crash in to a hypermiler if will be your fault. My commute is 33 miles if I went 65 instead of 55 the difference is two minuets if at any time traffic moves slower the differential is decreased. It is dumb, unconscious, irresponsible and just plain wrong to speed to a red light or go racing off the line only to slam on the brakes a few seconds later. The average speed of my 33 mile commute which the takes 1.5 hours is 22 miles an hour. Ok so slow down you will live longer enjoy or drive and have a little more change in your pockets.
Posted by:jimMay 28, 2007 3:04:30 PMRespond ^
Okay, I get some of the ideas expressed, from both sides. I don't like the idea of getting 18 mpg in my van so I also try to conserve, if possible. On the Highway, driving 55 seems to be common sense for fuel economy since it is simply a fact that modern cars are more economical at 55 and mpg go down from there (as any of us know this would be an unsafe speed (55) for all others on the road). A speed of 60 or at a max 65 seems to be pushing common sense for fuel economy, but this concept is not for the personal whims of those who getting 'wherever' now is perceived to be their 'legal' right, which it is not. The "legal" limit in any area I am near is 65. I understand most don't like the idea of 'rules' or 'limits' but these words are necessary to raise in a discussion like this. I personally drive 65 outside the major cities I live near. I live near but not between, Milwaukee and Chicago (I 43), but when I am in those cities I go with the flow for the safety of me, mine and others. This is often in excess of the max posted speed of 55. My observation is most don't care either way (in going UNDER or OVER) what the posted speed is no mater what is safe or sane, including these 'hypermilers'. In personally driving in a rural highway system where there is NO traffic, I find that most commercial vehicles and almost all others will approach very near me before changing lanes. Before some have completely passed, they will change back into the right lane which is the one that I am in. A few will never allow their right two wheels make it completely into the left lane before THEY return(?) into the lane I am in. WOW! I am doing the POSTED speed. I am in the RIGHT lane. They are playing (messing) with the lives of me and sometimes my family too. I am personally trying to do what seems to be right with what I have. For what reason (or point) do they do this to jeopardize me and my? You supply the answer. This comment hasn't even touched on the aspect of speeding through a residential district that involves children that live in the neighborhood we drive through. Sorry for the rant, but driving IS unsafe if one is trying to conserve fuel in a reasonable, let alone in a 'hyper', way.
Posted by:danMay 28, 2007 9:53:40 PMRespond ^
I get 1000 MPG coloric eqlialant on my Bicycle, smile alot and hope you all will join me soon!:)
Posted by:tomMay 29, 2007 12:20:08 AMRespond ^
While I do not agree with the insane exit ramp speeds (roll-over comes to mind), I do agree with slowing down. I have tried driving a maximum of 59 MPH this weekend, and saw my Windstar jump to 26.1 miles per gallon (average for 3 tanks this trip). I had never seen over 21 MPG while "going with the flow". I did not shift to neutral, or turn off the engine. I did keep the windows closed, carried 6 adult passengers and their luggage, A/C on. The signs on the road "Speed Limit" mean exactly that. What word did you not understand? Why do you still have a license? Most interstates also have a minimum speed posted. Usually 45 MPH. Driving is a PRIVELIGE, not a RIGHT! Perhaps those who cannot read should have that privelige revolked. At least is would solve some of the congestion problem. The point is that there are reasonable ways to save without jeapordizing people's lives.
Posted by:JimMay 29, 2007 11:48:11 AMRespond ^
You go, Wayne. (But not too fast.) Kindred spirit, I think. Check out my "homemade hybrid" blog, tell me what you think. What is your rule of thumb for idling? http://homemadehybrid.blogspot.com/
Posted by:CavenoidMay 29, 2007 5:19:12 PMRespond ^
i hope the local police have taken note of this article. they have a written admission of guilt on reckless driving. i hope he gets a nice fat ticket in the mail for his habits. maybe people going 80 is a little dangerous in a 65mph zone.. but at least they have full control over their vehicle. if you have your engine off you dont have full power to your brake booster, and thus not full power to stop in an emergency situation. PLUS his little Insight or Accord with 195/205mm wide tires is NOT designed to do double the speed limit. at least if i do 55mph on a 25-30mph speed limit off-ramp, i'm doing it in a Porsche, with 245mm-295mm wide Z-rated tires (front/back), in a car designed to do over 120mph on German highways. if someone or something got in my way i could stop or avoid it safely. you certainly cannot say the same for an econobox. if you mash the brakes at 55mph in a 25mph turn on that car, you will either: a) slide right off the road as the front-heavy weight bias of your car induces heavy understeer, or b) roll over promptly if your front tires catch traction and send the rear out. these people need to be doing this where any OTHER motorsport would be safely acting - on a TRACK. Keep it on the track, folks.
Posted by:morganMay 29, 2007 8:01:19 PMRespond ^
blah blah blah this Morgan moron has no sense of what going slow is about. When one is going slower than every thing else on the road all the danger is moving away from from you. Dropping a standard transmission into gear gets you instant braking vacum. Additionally the article is written by a reporter who soiled him self and has biased the piece with the only sensational thing he could find about going slow. Power from gasoline is last week. Old news. Done. Open your mind, get out of the box. Like the guy said his average speed for 33 miles on the interstate is 22 miles an hour. Trying to go fast in rush hour traffic is just, well, like our president staying the course, when that dog don't hunt. Slow down America! Look around. Racing to the red were gona' get there first.
Posted by:CharlesMay 29, 2007 10:13:12 PMRespond ^
In some older cars like mine (1979 VW Superbeetle), there is no brake booster to begin with, so turning the car off would pose no safety problem. At least for braking. The only thing I would have to watch out for is turning the key too far, and locking the steering collum. I've always coasted down hills, but I've never thought about turning the car off. I guess I'm just afraid of it not turning back on, haha. Also going 5 mpg under the limit isn't that big of a deal, especially in the far right lane. If someone going 5 under in the right lane is a "safety hazard" to you, you're going way too fast.
Posted by:BeauMay 30, 2007 1:52:06 PMRespond ^
I commend the hypermilers! In a time when people losing their lives in Iraq for oil we should use every drop as efficiently as possible. These people are making a small sacrifice so fewer people will be asked to make the ultimate sacrifice. I also have been driving more like Wayne. I drive the speed limit now and use cruise control and let everyone pass me. It is amazaing when a tank full of gas lasts for an extra driving day. Some of the time I loose by drivng slow I get back by not sitting at a gas station as often as everyone else. The less oil we use here the fewer people we have to send to Iraq.
Posted by:RMay 30, 2007 4:17:31 PMRespond ^
Stop being a cheap retard.
Posted by:Chuck from BrooklynMay 31, 2007 12:01:37 AMRespond ^
Keep it up. I'd advise you to stop being cheap like Chuck said, but it's only a matter of time till you slip up and crash. And although you are a hazard to others on the road, your cheap tin can won't out duel my beast. These new cars are cheap as sh*t so you running into me is like a BB going thru paper.
Posted by:Bob from FloridaMay 31, 2007 12:05:25 AMRespond ^
Another factor to consider when doing this: Loss of power steering. I like your bravado and courage to pursue this activity. I think however, that you probably could do far better with a very smal car and drop some of the more unsafe practices. Your ultimate goal is to conserve fuel, yes. Change your entire lifestyle and consume less. Look back on the middle 180s and see what people did without, and how they lived. At first look, you (and the readers) may ridicule me, but upon closer study, you may be surprised to find how happy people were with a simpler (and less energy consuming) life.
Posted by:TruckmenMay 31, 2007 4:55:25 AMRespond ^
I agree on trying to save gas. I also coast to a stop when there's red light. But if you're coasting to an off-ramp, forcing all others behind you to go 20mph below speed limit, you are actually a road hazard AND you are DECREASING the fuel economy of the population as a whole since half of the other drivers have to brake for you. Also, what is the sense in "saving" gas if you're just burning it all for some contest? Wayne's intentions are good, but he's not really fulfilling his goal properly.
Posted by:DMVMay 31, 2007 9:11:10 AMRespond ^
Your a stupid moron stop complaining about wasting gas,if you're so concerned about by a bike or carpool. Your a hazard to humanity kill yourself before you kill someone.
Posted by:anonymousMay 31, 2007 6:40:34 PMRespond ^
Good Job Hypermilers! This is a great idea. Hypermilers are only hazzards to those breaking the law(speeding), thats why I would definitly not favor turning your car off while driving(illegal, and doesn't it hurt your transmission?) but other than that, go for it. If we could get more people to do this, it would seem less out of the ordinary to those that continue to drive 15-20 mph over the speed limit. Not only does hypermiling help our dependance from OPEC, its good for the earth, and most importantly it helps your wallet.
Posted by:TTJune 1, 2007 7:35:38 AMRespond ^
hey, I tried this in my 2000 bmw 528, nothing crazy, just slowing down and watching the fuel consumption display. I reached my destination safeley and increased my mpg from 24.7 to 40.2 in one trip. It did cost me about an additional 5 mins of commute time but I was more relaxed. You don't need to go to the extremes mentioned in the article, just reduce your consumption a little to make a difference is the point.
Posted by:mikeykJune 1, 2007 12:14:01 PMRespond ^
I don't agree with turning the engine off and on while going down any highway especially since most of your car's control system like power steering and break boost are lost as a result of the engine being turn off. But an alternative for me which I found useful with a manual shift, is to simply depress the clutch for coasting to allow the engine to disengage. I very strongly disagree with taking turns at a much higher rate of speed than recommended to save a little extra on the gas. As far as driving slower, as mentioned before, just because the maximum speed states 55 or 65, does not mean that you cannot drive 5 - 10 mph below the posted speed, and in fact there is usually a minimum speed posted as well which Wayne appears to maintain. The true problem arises with people who are driving well beyond the posted speed and who are weaving in and out of traffic. Wayne stays off towards the side and in the non-passing lanes, which means that the passing lane is clear for any one who wants to pass. Simply by slowing down, disengaging the engine by depressing the clutch while going downhill, shifting the car at lower rpm's, I have gained an extra 10mpg. Which means that I can travel an extra 150 miles on a tank of gas. If prices ever get into the $8/gallon range like it is in Europe, I doubt many people will find some of these examples outrageous. Also, I would must rather get into an accident at 50mph instead of 75mph.
Posted by:KevinJune 2, 2007 9:31:32 AMRespond ^
I really feel good now. Saving gas is wonderful, but bring back the real gas saver cars. I drive a geo storm and I drive it hard. I race off from a stop light, I zoom around those way too slow cars just so I can get to the speed limit and then drive 5 to 8 mph over it if I can. I slow WAYYYYYY down for ramps and I don't tailgate anyone, and as for the drafting, I probably provide a lot of that and I am still getting 31mpg in the city and 48 on the interstate. So for me, it's proof not how you drive, but what you drive. I say bring back that 4 cylinder gas sipper!! (and before someone says something about 3 cylinders, my storm has 4) :)
Posted by:ireneJune 3, 2007 5:04:40 AMRespond ^
I know everyone wants to save a buck at the pump including me but where does it end. I mean this is a little rediculous what gives you the right to speed others aren't allowed to. You're going to injury someone or yourself. I can see following the speed limit, turning off the AC and keeping the windows closed but turning off the car thats just crazy.
Posted by:CaseyJune 3, 2007 8:02:05 PMRespond ^
What a useless fetish. You have no impact. You cause delays by your slow starts and turtle stops. You are a controlled fool who has bought in to Al Gore. I make a solid living and will live life to the fullest. I will have my ac on and drive as fast as legal.
Posted by:MikeJune 4, 2007 7:51:04 PMRespond ^
I've read quite a few articles on you guys, you "hypermilers," and I am not pleased at all. It sounds like you are an accident waiting to happen. On the interstate, any vehicle moving slower than the other cars is an interruption in the flow of traffic, and either needs to LEAVE or SPEED UP. I drive a 1999 Dodge Durango. It has a V8. Usually one person occupies it at a time. Wastes gas? Not a drop. I use every bit of it to haul my 5000-pound vehicle around :-) I drive an SUV because they're SAFE, I've driven through mud (in the rain, mind you) and never gotten stuck. It currently has 207,000 miles on it and is still running strong. I can't justify paying that much for a vehicle when you are crippling yourself with a front-wheel drive SUBcompact car.
Posted by:C. J. BuckJune 6, 2007 10:22:51 AMRespond ^
i think the whole hyper-miling thing is stupid, but this would definitely help. It may even allow them to drive a little faster: http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9725898-7.html
Posted by:chrisJune 6, 2007 12:16:03 PMRespond ^
We should all try to conserver gas by driving more conservatively. That said, what this guy and others are doing is beyond extreme and potentially very dangerous. Slow down to the speed limit and don't jack rabbit start and you'll be amazed at the results.
Posted by:khaosJune 6, 2007 1:27:06 PMRespond ^
Rather than turning off his engine, why doesn't he just buy a Prius? The Prius engine shuts off automatically and goes into hybrid mode when going down hills and stopping at lights. Makes more sense and much safer than what he's doing.
Posted by:APJune 6, 2007 4:23:51 PMRespond ^
You rock, Wayne. Society needs more people like you -- committed in your daily life to personal experimentation. You're an inspiration.
Posted by:NedJune 6, 2007 7:20:08 PMRespond ^
When you take a 270-degree exit ramp curve at such a high speed that your tires squeal, you are causing greatly accellerated wear on your tires, which will cost you more than the few drops of fuel saved. Drafting trucks? Not only is that dangerous, stressful, and illegal, but think of all the rocks that the truck kicks up, chipping your car's paint job and possibly damaging one of those hundred-dollar headlights or cracking your $400 windshield. Hey, if you want to really get crazy, just get behind a truck, snag a rope to it's rear bumper, and get a free tow. (Only kidding!) Just drive conservatively (obey speed limits), watching the traffic and traffic lights ahead, and pretend you have a rotten egg under the accelerator pedal, and you'll be amazed at how much better fuel economy you'll get. Unload junk from your car, but don't be stupid and toss out your spare tire and associated tools. And if you're overweight, get some exercise and watch what you eat - - those pounds you loose will be the best riddence of all.
Posted by:Richard Z.June 6, 2007 7:57:35 PMRespond ^
Most of these ideas are common sense to the extreme. I think if drivers would at least learn how to coast to the next red light, that'd be great. I'm surprised Wayne doesn't buy a motorcycle. At least he'd have a breeze on his commute. I wonder how many stop signs and lights he doesn't stop at. I wonder how often he buys new tires. And hybrids!? Please. Why when you can get numerous cars now with 40 mpg and way less electronics to go wrong and far cheaper? BTW guys, if you haven't had defensive driving recently, you may have forgotten that most accidents on the road are caused by drivers going too slow (or so they say).
Posted by:SamJune 7, 2007 10:28:14 PMRespond ^
I tried some of the more modest techniques suggested by the hypermilers with a 2000 Windstar, and got 35 mpg on the highway, not the 21 MPG that the DOT says you get with a 2000 Windstar. It was so amazing that I thought I may have miscalucated, but my wife agrees: we got a 60% increase in milage. What did we do? Kept the speed at about 60 mph, not 75, used the cruise control, and often followed behind a semi, but we kept about 3-4 carlengths behind, not one. (The idea was not to draft, but let a large vehicle break the wind resistance a bit by its size; I have no idea if that actually works, and I intend to see if there is some data on it somewhere on the net.)
Posted by:MaplewoodJune 9, 2007 9:44:19 AMRespond ^
Illegal, and unsafe on public roads? Yes.Do it on a track/ or research center. However, I do support the idea of pushing the envelope to find better, more effective ways to move us around. Many lives have been lost on long road of automobile innovation,improvement, and safty. Lets perfect this concept, I'm asking hyper milers to debug their methods. You've gone this far, and you have proven there is something substantial to gain here, take it to the next level. Make it safe for everyone. If you guys are as smart as you think you are, then this should a 'no-brainer'. Heres another motivator, someone mentioned in another connent about the fact that your driving technique deminishes the efficency for dozens of other cars around you. Will you let your efforts be for not? Can you fix this problem? JAMZ
Posted by:JAMZDRUMZJune 9, 2007 10:14:10 AMRespond ^
Everyone commenting on how illegal and unsafe his driving is needs to take a harder look at the illegal and unsafe ways they themselves drive. He's just on the opposite end of the spectrum. If you're upset at the way he drives, it's probably because you don't want him to slow you down when you're speeding. If you're under the speed limit, then his 50 isn't going to bother you much. Those of you who drive too fast and think people like Wayne create the danger - not you - need a basic refresher course in logic. More power to you Wayne!
Posted by:BradJune 9, 2007 3:57:48 PMRespond ^
I say "screw the Saudis"! Hypermile on. People that bitch about us need to realize the speed limit is the MAXIMUM speed you are allowed. You are the ones who need to be ticketed. On most interstates in the south, legal minimum speed is 45. Wouldn't Wayne love that!
Posted by:mrentaJune 10, 2007 5:31:13 AMRespond ^
I can relate to some of this , We roll past stop signs and take corners faster than usual But all this doesnt help completely in saving gas . I work in the Auto Parts Industry and I see several mistakes people make , Your best mileage occurs when you take care of your car . The biggest is reading your owners manual as it tells you things you need to know , Especially Preventitive MAintenance . The most common mistakes i see are , Not replacing the Oxygen sensor , Useing good oil and not checking your air filter are other ways to slow down mileage .
Posted by:HondamanJune 10, 2007 12:47:36 PMRespond ^
I applaud Wayne for "pushing the envelope" that's how progress is made! I use some of his techniques but avoid some of the riskier ones. I don't want to just put a dent in the oil companies profits - I want to obliterate them! I converted my 1998 merc mystique 4cyl, 5 spd manual to burn E85 (85% ethanol/15% gas), use synthetic oil, overinflate my tires a few pounds, coast a lot, use cruise on the hwy, travel at 55 on the hwy, and installed a Scan Gauge so I can see how my driving affects mileage from second to second. I'm getting 31 - 36 mpg on E85 in a car that's rated at 26 - 28 mpg on gas. I don't know how any one driving an SUV or Hummer at 80 mph can say that they are not wasting gas! They just don't know what waste means! They are ignorant & stupid and causing the price of fuel to go up for every one else!
Posted by:John StolteJune 11, 2007 4:24:38 PMRespond ^
Hypermiling is the coolest thing ever! http://www.cafepress.com/iHypermile
Posted by:GooserJune 15, 2007 8:52:29 AMRespond ^
I will now drive faster and use more gas to negate any fuel this moron is conserving.
Posted by:SteinerJune 16, 2007 1:27:06 AMRespond ^
i agree with tom. my bicycle is my primary mode of transportation. when i can't avoid it, i drive my car. i'm going to trade my cherokee in for a honda fit. in my mid-life crisis when i have the money, i'll buy a tesla.
Posted by:tomaszJune 18, 2007 10:45:37 PMRespond ^
I say Great for anyone who helps decrease the amount of fuel we consume. Personally I am extremely busy working for people who don't care about my fuel efficiency. Sooo, I'll continue to live in the left hand lane, please stay to the right!
Posted by:MarleeseJune 18, 2007 11:34:49 PMRespond ^
The reporter may be focusing on dramatic stuff like death turns and drafting trucks (that's what reporters DO), but 90% of what Wayne is doing to save gas is perfectly legal and safe. Those who think Wayne is a hazard don't understand that he's about 3 times as alert as the average driver. And even his "unsafe" techniques pale in comparison to the stuff I see on the roads on a daily basis. And most of those who criticize the choice of vehicle because it's not as "safe" as your Durango (which has a far higher death rate than Wayne's Accord, FYI) or not as capable as your Porsche: you guys are just trying to justify your exorbitant spending to yourselves. I don't drive an econobox now, but I have in the past, and they're far more capable than most of the sloppy SUVs and minivans on the road. And midsize cars like an Accord or most hybrids are actually safer than most SUVs, which tend to get in accidents more often and don't crash as well. In crashes, their excess mass tends to force the burden of their drivers' incompetence onto others. The "feeling" of safety in a large SUV is a false one. I've felt it myself, but I'm intelligent enough to recognize that it is an illusion. Back to fuel economy, I was a doubter that technique made much difference in mpg until about 2 months ago, but with gas costing $3.39 I decided to try hypermiling as a temporary experiment. In the first tank I improved my mpg from 22 to 28, and 4 tanks later I'm getting right around 30. That's in the city, in a Subaru with all wheel drive. I'm calling the experiment over and I now consider the changes to my driving style permanent. By far the biggest gains came from leaving more room in front of me and looking further ahead. Don't accelerate unless you know you'll be going that speed for a considerable distance. Don't be on the gas unless you KNOW the light ahead of you is going to be green when you get there. Look 3 lights ahead if you can see them. All this is legal, 100% safe, and there are several studies out there that it actually smooths the flow of traffic and REDUCES CONGESTION. So stop whining that we're clogging up the roads. It just ain't so. Now that I'm doing this stuff, I'm astounded at how everyone around me drives. Approaching red lights, almost NO ONE starts slowing down until they HAVE to. Start noticing this, and you soon realize how utterly stupid it is. And I drove that way too, until 2 months ago. Other changes: Keep the speed down on the highway. Accelerate moderately so you don't put too much load on the engine, but don't waste too much time getting into your vehicle's most efficient speed range (about 25-45 mph on my car). Turn the engine off if it's going to be idling at a light for more than 15 seconds. Again, there's nothing radical or dangerous about what I or most hypermilers are doing. We're among the most safe drivers on the road because we're far more attentive and mostly driving at lower speeds.
Posted by:WriConJune 20, 2007 4:24:27 PMRespond ^
yeah saving gas is cool and all it also helps save money... however using the brakes are not gonna hurt your gas mileage too bad, plus has anyone looked at the mpg for newer cars they suck! some of the little cars get about the same as a truck. I drive around a 66 chevy II nova and it does around 23ish mpg. i have been more aware of the speed i'm going (going the speed limit) and it does help i did not calculate it yet but it has lasted a week and a half without me filling up the car. i have coasted down this hill be4 i get to my house before i read this article (nothing is powered lol which means when off it functions exactly the same as if its on... just pop it in neutral and the trans doesn't get harmed) however it uses gas to turn the vehicle back on and if its only for less than a minute it wont save fuel. also about the E 85 yeah its cheaper but it doesn't last as long as reg. gas does due to it having less oct. its sorta having 15% of your tank missing when filled. personally with my experience on the road people really don't know how to drive and it kinda bugs me when people only go 35 on a 45 mph zone and when people run red lights (i usually stall out because of stopping lest i hit the car) i really think all people need to do is go the speed limit and obey simple (what i think common sense) rules. thats sorta why highway laws are out there to keep everyone safe 8)!
Posted by:gusJune 21, 2007 8:30:55 PMRespond ^
yeah saving gas is cool and all it also helps save money... however using the brakes are not gonna hurt your gas mileage too bad, plus has anyone looked at the mpg for newer cars they suck! some of the little cars get about the same as a truck. I drive around a 66 chevy II nova and it does around 23ish mpg. i have been more aware of the speed i'm going (going the speed limit) and it does help i did not calculate it yet but it has lasted a week and a half without me filling up the car. i have coasted down this hill be4 i get to my house before i read this article (nothing is powered lol which means when off it functions exactly the same as if its on... just pop it in neutral and the trans doesn't get harmed) however it uses gas to turn the vehicle back on and if its only for less than a minute it wont save fuel. also about the E 85 yeah its cheaper but it doesn't last as long as reg. gas does due to it having less oct. its sorta having 15% of your tank missing when filled. personally with my experience on the road people really don't know how to drive and it kinda bugs me when people only go 35 on a 45 mph zone and when people run red lights (i usually stall out because of stopping lest i hit the car) i really think all people need to do is go the speed limit and obey simple (what i think common sense) rules. thats sorta why highway laws are out there to keep everyone safe 8)!
Posted by:gusJune 21, 2007 9:46:59 PMRespond ^
I like ideas like this. I saw that Social Venture Network is holding a contest to award socially responsible business leaders and help them further their endeavors! You can get all the rules and background here: www.svn.org/imaginewhatsnext .
Posted by:sfogreenJune 23, 2007 2:10:30 PMRespond ^
Try placing a on/off switch between your ignition switch (the place where you put your key) and the fuel pump solenoid to cut fuel consumption when coasting down hills or decelerating. This works with both standard or automatic transmittions. You keep your radio, air, power steering and brakes for speeds as low as 25 mpg. This could increase your gas milage by as much as 30% or more.
Posted by:joe sixpackJune 29, 2007 7:54:50 AMRespond ^
His technique may save his gas, but I doubt he is considering the impact of his driving on others. By driving slow and erratic, he must cause others to brake and a chain reaction could cause much more gas to be expended by others.
Posted by:GetRealJune 29, 2007 8:30:27 PMRespond ^
Those unwilling to try hypermiling are threatened and abusive. Not ONE person posting these comments who has actually tried hypermiling is negative on the subject. Driving more efficiently has NOTHING to do what what you drive. You could be driving a Hummer and still use the very same hypermiling driving techniques that Wayne uses. And to the idiot Steiner who wrote he'll drive faster and use more gas to compensate for Wayne using less -- haha, idiot, it's your wallet paying for it. The joke's on you, MORON.
Posted by:JibberJune 30, 2007 2:06:56 PMRespond ^
By not trying too hard, I got 50mpg out of a '91 Honda CRX SI (EPA 28/32 mpg). The problem with hypermiling is exactly as others have mentioned - If you are causing others to burn more fuel in the process of your saving it, its really a 0 sum game (actually worse because for every one hypermiler on the road doing 50mph - there are hundreds of ignorant drivers hammering their throttle in order to get around said hypermiler). I was thinking of introducing a bumper-sticker that says "Hypermiler" ... establish rules for ALL hypermilers (like drafting, turning the engine off, coasting, braking (or lack thereof), etc), and we could all tail-gate eachother knowing exactly what to expect from oneanother. Just keep in mind that for every mile per gallon a hypermiler saves ... many more are being burned by those not conscious of "hypermiling".
Posted by:amutnaviJuly 2, 2007 6:46:39 AMRespond ^
Draft my rig, and they'll be cleaning you off the bumper with a sponge.
Posted by:RobJuly 6, 2007 11:19:14 PMRespond ^
This was both very interesting, and exciting. For years ive experimented with these techniques, but im an advocate of not turning my engine off but instead dropping her into neutral. I feel that I can put in the clutch, drop her into 5th and have a safer ride then faster than you restarting your car would take more movements than my way, therefore use more time
Posted by:mathxman@yahoo.comJuly 8, 2007 6:41:28 PMRespond ^
Very interesting figures, even from some gas guzzlers, but for fuel economy you won't beat the Citroen C2 1.4 HDI. According to the cars computer, I can get 72.3 MPG round town and drivin between 45 and 50 on a run, I can easily achieve 105-109 MPG - A full tank of fuel (just 41 litres)on a run can get me about 800/900 miles ... ...Il never go back to a petrol!
Posted by:Thomas LakeJuly 9, 2007 7:12:36 AMRespond ^
I must be the only person who just doesn't give a [deleted] about gas. I pump a blend of 91 and 101 octane because California's environmentally friendly gas sucks ass. I can't go past a few minutes without full throttling my car and I tuned my car (fully programmable ECU) to a very rich air/fuel ratio. Running your motor till it's out of gas to maximize fuel efficiency is the dumbest [deleted]ing thing ever. Motors do not like a lean air/fuel ratio, hence why I'm running rich. When you run out of gas, you create a lean situation and can pop your motor.
Posted by:EricJuly 10, 2007 8:59:32 AMRespond ^
I must be the only person who just doesn't give a [deleted] about gas. I pump a blend of 91 and 101 octane because California's environmentally friendly gas sucks ass. I can't go past a few minutes without full throttling my car and I tuned my car (fully programmable ECU) to a very rich air/fuel ratio. Running your motor till it's out of gas to maximize fuel efficiency is the dumbest [deleted]ing thing ever. Motors do not like a lean air/fuel ratio, hence why I'm running rich. When you run out of gas, you create a lean situation and can pop your motor.
Posted by:EricJuly 11, 2007 9:03:54 AMRespond ^
i think it is interesting that someone has cheated using fuel in a way that puts others in danger. not a day goes by that i don't see the faces of people, mostly children, that we've pulled out of wrecks because of insane stunts like these. maybe when you take your next "death-turn", or draft your next semi, you might live to do it again, or we might pull another dead body out of a car. your story is a sad effort to stand out on an issue, instead of finding a pragmatic solution. if you want to kill yourself, do it. don't take innocent people and thier babies with you.
Posted by:trucker idahoJuly 11, 2007 9:30:35 PMRespond ^
Hypermilers are by far the most alert drivers out there and less likely to get in a wreck than the average person doing 20 mph over the speed limit, not to mention that at that high speed death is almost guaranteed. I use the tamer of these techniques and its saved me a ton. I find that throwing it into neutral works almost as well as turning off the car, and for short stretches saves you some gas because starting it back up uses so much.
Posted by:AaronJuly 12, 2007 6:24:28 AMRespond ^
Good Job Wayne, this year you saved $25 on gas. But what are the costs? First off your passengers are uncomfortably hot and scared. You've wasted a good 3 weeks of your life that could have had if you'd driven the speed limit. Wayne, you are a fanatic. I understand that we all have unsafe or wasteful driving habits, myself included. But you have developed a compulsion and it is severely effecting your life and the lives of those around you. I would gladly buy you a full tank of gas if you agree to stop being a douchebag.
Posted by:RyanJuly 12, 2007 7:50:22 AMRespond ^
Okay.... I've read all the comments on this subject and learned this from all of you: Not a single person in these posts understands how a modern automobile operates in regards to how it deals with fuel consumption. All autos manufactured since the late seventies have a fuel cutoff solenoid that does exactly that when you let up on the gas pedal while at highway speeds. So when you simply let up on the gas, you cut off the fuel to the engine. This was intended to decrease the pollution from the engine. However, it did increase the mileage somewhat. On the other hand, the engine now has NO POWER to sustain it's rotary motion and creates drag on the auto, causing it to slow down even more rapidly than it would if the fuel was still available. Placing the transmission into neutral or depressing the clutch to allow the engine to idle still allows the engine to burn fuel while you aren't using it. Turning the darned thing off will stop the fuel consumption completely while you are decellerating. Most autos use a vacuum storage for the brakes. You have ONE GOOD SHOT at stopping the vehicle if you lose power. I've been experimenting with this "Hypermiler" thing and have learned that I too can save considerably on fuel. I don't hold up traffic, I pull over an allow the speeders to pass, I coast(engine off) to stop signs and red lights, down hills, and when I feel it's safe to do so, coast to intersections and when entering parking lots. I'm not near as extreme as the "Hypermilers", but I've been able to obtain a consistan 47 MPG in a carburated, 5 speed standard transmission, 1986 Chevy Spectrum that is rated at 42 MPG on the highway, 38 city. I am doing this in mostly horribly difficult roads to and from work. Hills, stop signs, traffic and lights, stop signs and all that. If I were to go extreme, I believe I could break that 50 MPG barrier. I don't delay traffic. If I'm in the front of a line(or near it) at a red light, when the light turns green, I try to accelerate quickly enough so the drivers behind me will have a chance to get through that light before it turn red again. The more drivers that get through that light means the there will be fewer that will be stuck, idling and burning fuel. I turn off my motor when the car is not moving. Actually, I don't have to "turn it off" I've rigged it to die automatically if I'm not depressing the gas pedal. It turns off the gas via the idle fuel cutoff solenoid on the carburetor. No matter what the RPMs are. I installed a "Keep Alive" switch on the gear shifter that I can depress in stop and go traffic to keep the engine running. Once I'm out of the traffic, I can ignore this switch and drive normally. I do depress the clutch when decellerating, going down hill and when I otherwise don't need the engine to propel the vehicle. The engine dies and uses no fuel. Just pop the clutch to restart it and move right along. If I have a tail-gaiter, I move over and let the zoom by, knowing they won't get but about a few seconds or maybe minutes before me. My brother and I work at the same place, and we live in the same area, we both drive the same distance to work. He is too impatient to drive the way I do. It's thirty two miles to work. He get there just under two minutes before I do. My driving this method obtained a gain of 9MPG from 38 to 47 and he still gets 26 as his vehicle is rated for. It does take some concentration to do this. I does take some attention to the traffic, the folks behind me and being careful not to offend potentential aggressive drivers or worse, someone who may even attempt something dangerous to "punish" me for whatever I do that they deem unacceptable in their mind. So, if the situation is not easy for me to do MY thing, I drive according to the "accepted" driving techniques. Hence, I cannot(at this time) make my goal of 50 MPG. If you were to be behind me, you would not know that I was doing anything but driving the speed limit. This car gets(normally) 42MPG. I've tested it at 65MPH and 55MPH and it doesn't change. Doing the coasting and engine off thing really does help. Keep in mind it is a stick shift with no power steering. It does have power brakes, but the vacuum booster will hold the vacuum if I need the brakes. Even if it loses vacuum, the car only weighs 2000 pounds and I can still lock up the brakes if the vacuum is lost. I don't thing I would try this in an SUV or a Hummer.... get my drift? When I'm in my Hot Rod Ford Pickup, all bets are off. Mileage is not an issue and I will challeng anyone to beat me to the next light. However, I can't afford to drive it much. It's thirty years old and quite impressive. Daily driver autos should be economical and smart driving should be the norm.
Posted by:George RamsowerJuly 16, 2007 10:36:38 PMRespond ^
pointless, instead of paying for gas now you are paying for tires, alignments, broken parts like steering shafts, wheelbearings, shocks, and tie rods. If your vehicle doesn't drive straight, or your tires or shocks or anything is wrong with your vehicle you will be wrecking, killing your friends, paying for many doctor bills and many vehicles. and if you ver out of your lane in front of me don't worry about me, just be worried that you will hit my steel bumper that doesn't bend and an 8,000 pound pickup behind it. My 8,000 pound pickup gets 25mpg driving normally and I can also hit a deer @ 65 with NO damage. Drive a motorcycle they are safe can't roll them ( unless you are stupid ) they also get 55mpg driving normally and you can get around quicker, and avoid accidents quicker and have more fun than sweating your balls off and trying to wreck. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO GAS IS CHEAPER THAN MECHANIC BILLS AND MORE CARS. I am a mechanic can't wait till I see you in the shop @ 85 bucks an hour
Posted by:dennisJuly 17, 2007 11:47:44 PMRespond ^
Some of Wayne's techniques might be considered a bit extreme, but the overall message of SLOW DOWN is something to be considered. It's more than just fuel economy, it saves wear and tear on the car (ok, except for the fast turns part). I got ~80k miles on the first set of front brakes, and yes the rotors were still good. As for all these hard-core types wishing tickets & destruction upon Wayne ... saying things electronically that you wouldn't have the kahunas to say in person only gets you ignored. Spare us your anger problems. Thanks for sharing good info.
Posted by:KennJuly 18, 2007 11:24:16 PMRespond ^
I am a truck driver and I am driving about 3000 miles per week. The last year it was a great amount of increase of tailgaters, especially before and after on the long weekends and mostly among people with trailers and or 2 or more passengers. Well let me put this tailgating a semi-truck in to a different perspective. My rig is 80,000 lbs fully loaded, the airbrakes were made for that weight. If you tailgating me alone in your car when I am fully loaded you might have a chance not to become my bumper sticker in case I have to do an emergency stop. Now let’s turn the table. My gross weight is 36,000 lbs because my trailer is empty and you have a few luggage and a few people in your vehicle. My airbrakes on the empty rig is as powerful as on the fully loaded rig but I have less then half of the weight what I have to bring to a stop therefore you do not have a chance to avoid crashing on to my rear bumper in case of an emergency. So I am asking you kindly, save yourself from a fatal accident and save me to do extra paperwork. Some more interesting facts on the other hand: Pick a nice and shiny 18wheeler to follow so you know the driver owns the rig therefore his more careful then the average driver who drives a company truck. Avoid day-cabs (no-sleeper) due to a simple fact that they most likely get paid by the hour so he actually will get paid slamming on his brakes just to teach you a lesson. The best trailer to pick is a so called “low-boy” it creates so much air drag that you will actually going to feel like you are towed by a rope. Pick a semi with a license plate jurisdiction of your final destination or beyond so you don’t have to learn new driver’s habits so often. 90% of semis have a CB radio, 80% of that is turned on while traveling the interstate so do yourself a favor if you really want to tailgate, buy a CB-radio, tune to channel 19 and ask for permission to do it. Most likely you will get it along with the advantage to reduce your tailgating distance to less then a car length. Imagine traveling in the vacuum created by the semi at that distance and be able to hear the traffic updates from the CB.
Posted by:SupertruckerJuly 20, 2007 9:54:26 AMRespond ^
first off i'd like to apologize for comments from "super-trucker". you see the words super-trucker, isn't a good thing. niether is "good-buddy". and he doesn't speak for, or an any way represent the trucking professionals. he is proof that we all have a village idiot living amongst us. we try to take out the trash, but we missed that piece of garbage. anyway, in reference to drafting, though it's possible because of the mass of the vehicle to do so. it's incredibly dangerous, as some others have said, for the same reason most trucks won't willingly do it. the road isn't safe even for us anymore, depite the publics attempts to test a trucks safety parameters (i.e. brakes, blindspots, and driver sanity like "good-buddy" or "super-trucker"), it isn't enough that the majority of us are trying hard to keep the roads safe. we do work close with the authorities in cases like these, and danger is being dealt with more and more. in fact, dozens of departments are doing ride alongs and pulling people like that off the road even quicker. more police will follow suit, and are welcome to ride with me, my rig is safe, but not for wreckless drivers. don't draft trucks, and especially not a "super-trucker" that condones deadly behavior. thanks.
Posted by:safe truckerJuly 21, 2007 3:56:15 PMRespond ^
I had a 98, 3 cyl, 5 speed manual, metro, 2 door. It started at mid 30s and went to mid 20s from new to apr 06. I tried 4 sets of spark plugs (4 ground Boesh, split fire with a v in middle), and K & N air filter. no change to better was noted in mileage. It was 8/05 when I found it pulled air off a closed container with weep hole in bottom. That is factory. I drilled holes in it to get air, but never did find that mileage. EPA was 44/49. Why it dropped as it got older is a puzzle. I did rotation of tires, ran 35 psi in them, frequent oil changes, and much more frequent oil filter changes. It had 27244 mi. on it in 7.5 yrs., total short mile trips in traffic, many stops per trip. I got a 06 camry, 2.4L 4 cyl., 5 speed AT with 3100 curb weight. 98 metro was 1900 curb weight. I put K & N air filter in at 1300 mi. At 3950 mi. I cut the ground off to the center of electrode of spark plugs. Also did that to metro. This came from a speed shop owner who said he did that to race cars. Principle: more fire=more complete burn=more power (also =less emissions=(if driven for it)more mileage). Over many cars I have tried every trick or thing that seem reasonable to do & made sense to do; but nothing seems to help. My gas fills come from various non branded stations, and gas is not formulated for mileage, plus the mileage I do (4700 + miles on camry in 15.75 months). Most of additives can & will mess up the operating system of vehicles, most add ons do nothing positive towards better mileage, some do negative things to vehicles. A old man at dealer service waiting room said it best; "I keep it running good and it gets what it gets." Another said; "it probably is getting all it can get." Toyota service advisor at Landers Toyota where I bought the camry: "they (Toyota) spent millions to get it to run better and you will not improved on it." This was in regards to free flow filters. On both cars I improved performance greatly but little better mileage. The camry has got 18.8 mpg over the first 4557 mi. Consumer Report got 16 mpg on accord (Honda) & camry (Toyota) 4 cyl. EPA was 24 on camry. New EPA is 21. You do the percentages. I can tell all that the free flow air filter and the ground to ctr of electrode on spark plugs greatly improves performance on both cars. 98 metro had a rotating distributor and I moved factory timing of 5 degrees BTDC to 10 degrees BTDC. That help a lot! Point: leave it alone. What you spend will not come back @ a few pennys per mile savings. What you [deleted] up will cost more than the car is worth, or any time, trouble, and money you are out. Computer vehicles are precise as any can get, and most things you try to do will screw up sensor readings and the whole system as it is designed by manufacturers. LEAVE IT ALONE. NORMAL MAINTAINENCE ONLY.
Posted by:j e evans,little rock ar.July 21, 2007 5:17:33 PMRespond ^
This is freakin hysterical ! i drive like this myself
Posted by:TomJuly 22, 2007 7:48:50 PMRespond ^
I drive a 1 ton welding truck. By tacking off slow and costing when I can I save 2 gallons a day on my drive to work and back. 2gallons at $3 a gallon x 250 working days a year = $1,500.00
Posted by:RobertJuly 22, 2007 10:01:51 PMRespond ^
Well done safe trucker! Just for the record I am driving an 18 wheeler since June 1989 and I had a few very close calls but never an accident. You did not read my entire posting or you just assuming my driving behavior after the name Supertrucker, well either case you are ignorant! Read my posting again and you may realize that I only posted facts. If someone has a death wish to tailgate a semi, then let him do it in style ad least it is less dangerous then taking an off ramp 51Mph instead of the posted 25Mph. Don’t even attempt to do it with an SUV or minivan, because it is a guaranteed rollover. This hypermiling is just straight up stupid anyways and let me point out a few things why. The amount of money you save hypermiling is less then what you spend on extra maintenance due to increased amortization. No matter how hardcore hypermiller you are on a V8 whatever, you will use a much greater amount of fuel compare to a four banger. I totally understand you love your V8, but consider buying a SMART for a daily commute to work. Do the math again, you keep 2 cars on the road, but the amount of fuel you capable to save will exceed the amount of money you spending on insurance and your V8 is not your main vehicle to work so the insurance will be cheaper on it of course. On the other hand: you V8 will worth a lot more money 3 years from now because you put a lot less miles on it and you actually going to look forward for the Saturday drive once again with that big V8. Wayne and the rest of the hypermilers are trying to do something for a good cause, OK. That is very nice, but has anyone of you ever thought about the fuel being guzzled by semis? My truck gets me 7.25 mile to a gallon therefore it is a very efficient truck in its category. I bought her in 1999 and if you do the math you can see I purchased a little over 150 thousand gallon diesel since. A semi consume approximately 3-5 gallon idling overnight, do me a favor and stop at any truck stop to see how many of them actually idling thru the night. How come there are only a few states have idling restrictions? Mr. Safe trucker, before you start flying off the handle and work yourself in to a decent heart attack on my comment, please open a dictionary and look up the word ignorant. Some other subject what really bothers me also! There is a fuel called LPG (liquefied propane gas) what can be used to power any internal gas combustion engine, but there are not even 1% of the cars using it. The price of LPG is about half comparison to a 91octane gas, it is safer then gas and the conversion of the vehicle could be done within 6 hours and it would cost you less then $2000. Well, that’s it for today!
Posted by:SupertruckerJuly 23, 2007 9:04:43 AMRespond ^
All fine and good, but as soon as the truck drafters end up under the truck they were drafting, it is the truck driver who gets the ticket and goes to jail.
Posted by:ScottJuly 23, 2007 1:33:58 PMRespond ^
you say you've been driving since 1989?? that's a long trip, you should probably pull over and get a cup of coffee, or take a nap before you start your next 18 year run. Now, i read your posting super-trucker. and i appreciate facts. in fact, you suggested using a cb radio to "get permission", you suggested, drafting an "owner operator", you continue to list many ideas for people to do it more effectively. as you have some nice points in other areas, you still have explained in such a way, saying you're alright with it, and they should avoid a company truck so to stay out of trouble with semis... oh i read your entire posting, and am well aware of your climb up to ignorance. you aren't seeing the point. instead of reading your own post you would rather exchange insults, and endeavor further into "long-winded" explanations and maybe factual accounts. however, different views are not allowed to cross the plains of your one-sided opinion. I posted, that you condone this behavior. if you read your first overstated novel, you will find how i came to my conclusion. now be a big boy, and leave it be. we all know how you think. and to save the rest of the world from another long-winded posting from you. this will be my last reply, regardless of any single-sided opinions or insults. so fire away to try to cause further confusion. I do appreciate the other drivers opinions, and hope we can all keep it safe out there. there are many good drivers out there and i'm proud to be one of em'.
Posted by:safe truckerJuly 23, 2007 3:54:25 PMRespond ^
I bought a used Geo Metro XFi with a 1 liter 3-cylinder gas engine to drive on my commute (62 miles each way). So far, I average 52mpg, but I am going to try some of Wayne's techniques to see how much I can really get. I have read that increasing tire pressure and using something like SAE 0 Amzoil can also increase mileage. It saved me over $100 a month to drive the Geo. And I bne.ought it for $400.00. Thanks Way
Posted by:JimJuly 23, 2007 7:48:53 PMRespond ^
scottz rite. we git th tikit. supertrkr is n de nile. lol. what n idgit.
Posted by:another truckerJuly 23, 2007 10:18:56 PMRespond ^
Hopefully they'll update this article when Wayne earns himself a Darwin award driving like this.
Posted by:HamJuly 26, 2007 4:42:39 PMRespond ^
Hey silly, don't you think your erratic and crazy driving will cost you money in the long run. Because turning the car off and on is not good for the engine and causes wear on the starter. Taking corners super fast wears tires. And I agree on the safety feature. I use a lot of fuel saving tips while driving, but I don't make a risk to myself or ruin my car doing it.
Posted by:ChrisJuly 26, 2007 9:18:47 PMRespond ^
I disagree with those who say that hypermiling is pointless. Yes, they go to extremes. However, some or much of what they learn can be applied safely by anyone. I will never draft a semi, but will learn what I can from them about driving efficiently without going to their extremes. This is like learning about physical fitness from a body builder: the rest of us can make great gains by learning a few things from them about efficient workouts and nutrition. We don't have to go to the extremes they do to get ready for a contest. To keep this all in perspective however, an inefficient suv driver, who musters only 15 miles per gallon, but is taking 6 people to work every day, is being a good deal more environemntally friendly than the guy going the same distance at 50 mpg, but only driving himself. I went looking for a new car today. (No, it wasn't a happy occasion; it wasn't optoinal.) It was hard to believe how many sales people would say, with a straight face, that a car got great gas mileage: a whopping 25 mpg highway! I used to have a 94 ford escort, bought new in late 94, manual transmission. I got as much as 41mpg in it, city. I actually got better mileage in the city than highway. Probably becasue of slower speeds in he city as compared to highway. I would accelerate reasonably from stops, but avoided getting up to the speed limit just to stop at tne next light. I tried to avoid red lights as much as possible (still do). When shifting, I never insisted in going into each gear. It's pointless shifting from first to second to third, if by the time you're done shifting into second it's already time to shift again. 1, 3, 5 works just fine. When I replaced it in 2002 it was with another escort, but that time with an automatic transmission (I wasn't in a position to be choosy). It died today. Pizza delivery will kill a car before its time, but I don't feel to bitter, as Pizza hut probably payed more towards the car than I did, until ultra high gas prices started eating into the $1.00 I got per delivery. I look foreward to seeing what kind of mileage I get from this new standard transmission.
Posted by:physicsdudeJuly 29, 2007 12:42:12 AMRespond ^
OK, cool to the mileage.....although the technique could do with a saftey revision! Point to note. Modern injection cars....especially diesel do not use gas when coasting.....only carbs these days! Therefore, putting your foot on the clutch to coast is actually less fuel efficient, as it needs fuel to keep the motor running. If left in gear, coasting down-hill for example, the engine relies on momentum to keep the engine in motion...not fuel. Best way...buy a diesel and run it off vegi oil.....cheap as chips and you get alot more mpg!
Posted by:Oldskool J-EDMJuly 30, 2007 8:29:54 AMRespond ^
All for saving a few dollars and hydrocarbons. Switching the engine off and restarting actually uses more gas than idling... Unless the hybrid kills the engine like at a light or coasting. The "death turn" will wear your tires, not to mention the nerves of other drivers and passengers, and if you wreck then what have you really saved? True that unnecessary braking will waste your gas. Tail gating bigger vehicles or "DRAFTING" is also good for mileage but not for road rage.. I just noticed that everyone else already ranted my other thoughts so that's it for me. Steady speed, a tuned engine, properly inflated tires will improve mileage. I SUGGEST YOU TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR BUY A BICYCLE.
Posted by:Stuck Behind the HYBRIDJuly 31, 2007 1:25:06 PMRespond ^
If roads were designed better, we would be able to get better gas mileage, brakes and tires would last longer, and there would be fewer accidents. I found that some vehicles get better gas mileage at higher speeds with oversized tires. I try to save gas by scanning the road ahead and planning ahead so that I don't have to use my brakes as much as most drivers.
Posted by:Timothy LogsdonJuly 31, 2007 8:02:08 PMRespond ^
I'll start coasting when all the fossil fuel is gone.
Posted by:COWGAugust 1, 2007 4:33:28 PMRespond ^
i drive a passat diesel and get 52 and dont have to do any of that stuff. and drive in comfort. Diesel is the fuel of the future.
Posted by:paul garrisonAugust 4, 2007 7:00:12 AMRespond ^
I drive a suv because it's safer than a car and I have better visibility to watch everything that's going on around me, and even though the mpg isn't that great - I don't care. I care more about safety than mileage. I ease up on the brakes before red lights, reduced speed zones and stop signs. I don't jack rabbit start. I drive 55 mph, sometimes 60 mph if I'm on an open rural highway, good road conditions, during the day and not a lot of traffic. I also keep my tires properly inflated and I don't carry much in my SUV, which causes drag. I understand what hypermilers are doing, but taking pictures of tailgaters with a cell phone while driving, drafting semis,and driving between 48 and 53 mph and flashing "5-5" out of the sun roof at people to remind people of the speed limit in unsafe! If the speed limit is 55, drive at least 55! Having a hand off the steering wheel to remind people of the speed limit or to take pictures of tail gaters with a cell phone is UNSAFE! Driving with 2 hands is safer than driving with 1. If you lose control while driving, you have a better chance of saving your ride with 2 hands instead of 1! Driving 48 - 53 mph in a 55 zone is going to cause a wreck, due to road rage. If you're driving that slow Wayne, and have a ton of ticked off people behind you, PULL OVER and let them pass. It's called being considerate and not causing a wreck and getting some innocent person killed. Drafting a semi is stupid, because 1) you are tail gating, and 2) a semi with a full load is going to take a lot longer than a car to stop if something suddenly happens. If I think gas prices are too high, I don't go very far OR I ride my bike, OR I carpool, OR I run my errands in 1 day and make a plan of attack on where I'm going so I don't have to double back and put on extra miles. I don't wish death or anyone to be in an accident, but Wayne, I have a question for you. How many wrecks have your stupid antics caused? Hopefully one of these days a police officer nails you for these stupid, dangerous antics that you are pulling. Hopefully no one gets killed or injured with your irresponsible antics! I don't do the following things when I drive: eat, talk on the cell phone, read, switch cds, to name a few. Driving is a huge responsibility, and I could never live with myself if I was involved in an accident where someone was killed. I've been driving for just over 24 years and have never had a wreck.
Posted by:Fed Up With FIBSAugust 4, 2007 8:49:44 PMRespond ^
Wow. More fanatics in the world who care more about than public safety. Great. I'm all for some modified driving habits, but within reason, PLEASE. Realize that you have an obsession and hypermiling is NOT the best solution. Want great MPG? Go by bicycle. Motorcycle. Public Transportation. Carpool.
Posted by:Richard in IndyAugust 8, 2007 7:32:13 AMRespond ^
We always need some people to push the envelope and test the extremes in order for the rest of us to learn. Most people will only try a fraction of what these hypermilers have done and that is fine. I have been doing some of what is recommended for a couple of years (coasting to a stop, accelerating "slowly", not exceeding speed limit) and have achieved 5 mph over what I had before. With a Toyota Tundra V8 I certainly don't expect a lot on gas mileage but what I have realized is I am now much more in tune with the road, observing what other drivers are doing, and much more relaxed. Before, I treated the road like it was a race course (me against all other drivers) and how fast I got to my final destination was the measure of my success. The consequences of this behavior put safety on the line, more wear/tear on my vehicle and myself, having to always watch for cops, watch for fly debris, etc. Now, I measure success by arriving safely, have less stress, and the knowledge I saved a couple of bucks here and there (especially in $$$ spent on tires and speeding tickets). I know that this article is all about saving gas, but some of the side benefits of a couple of items they suggested can give you a much greater return.
Posted by:ktAugust 8, 2007 9:44:29 AMRespond ^
everybody's gotta obsessabout something!! Myself, I get about 1/2 mile per quart-- of wather I drong after 6 pm. Getting older. 1 qt = 3 nocturnal trips to the outhouse at the back of the lot.
Posted by:jan BaumgardnerAugust 8, 2007 4:52:33 PMRespond ^
A friend has a 2003 Jetta TDi w/70,000 miles on the odometer getting 65-70mpg with Bosch's pump-duese electronic injection going to school every day. I personally own a 2006 JettaTDi that is approaching 50mpg with only 5000 miles but driven at 80mph going to work every day. Both cars with logbooks. The Accord does not look so good, since the Jetta's will suck the doors off any normal sedan or V-8 truck/SUV that tries to pass us on any steep I-64 hill. Sorry, Henry Payne
Posted by:henry e. payneAugust 12, 2007 2:17:03 PMRespond ^
These morons are soooo fuel conscious thatthere are nearly 40 guys driving in circles for hours with no destination. Way to go DORKS... And one word for the "trendy" Bush haters out there that have to drag the mans name through any mud puddle they find themselves sloshing through that we are NOT in Iraq because of oil you friggin dipstick, it's a HOLY WAR. You better figure it out and figure it out QUICK and beging backing his moral high ground before it's too late.
Posted by:mattAugust 12, 2007 6:00:37 PMRespond ^
question: i had a 98 metro, 2 dr, 1900 #, 5 speed manual, 55 +-hp, 63 ci, & a epa 44/49. i drove it 27244 mi in 7.5 yr. put in k&n air filter+cut ground to cl of electrode of plugs. mileage went from mid 30's to later mid 20's. i did every thing to get mileage (the best). 8/6 before i gave it to a dealer for little, i found the intake was attached to a container w/ a weap hole to equalize pressure. why would a mfg (Suzika? for GM) put a economy car intake to a closed area not getting any air? all my efforts inc drilling holes in container caused little increase in mpg. the kn filter & plug treatment caused a better performance. also from 5 deg btdc to 10 deg did a lot for performance. it had a rotating distributor. 06 camry i traded for gets 17/18 mpg off epa 24 (new epa 21). i put a kn filter in @ 1300 mi & plug treatment above @ 3900 mi. i have 4885 mi in 17 mo -. all around town, low rpm, mph, many stops, much traffic. it is 2.4 L, 4 cyl, 144 ci, 154 hp, total computer controlled, no distrabutor?, and runs good. BUT for all of it NO ONE builds a engine & car (vehicle) to get mileage. they all get as bad as the points & carbruator? cars. CRAP. high priced & high tech CRAP. the plug treatment came from a speed shop owner who said he did it to race cars. principle: more fire=more complete burn=more power. but also=less emissions=better mileage if driven for it. BS. i tried in many cars for mileage inc 06 camry, but no matter what i do, they all do not go past poor to aveage mpg. james evans, little rock, ar.
Posted by:james evansAugust 12, 2007 10:19:54 PMRespond ^
i get alot better miealge that you i get around 80mpg in a 88 honda civic with 450,000 miles on the original engine 5spd, i coast alot but never turn my engine off or do under the speed limit
Posted by:patAugust 20, 2007 12:16:34 AMRespond ^
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Posted by:wahAugust 22, 2007 4:06:58 PMRespond ^
This ariticle just goes to show you that innovation happens everyday and every way. If you were interested in this you should visit http://moradaengineering.page.tl We are developing a car that will get 100 mpg with normal driving styles, so imagine the hypermileage that can be achieved. we are currently looking for sponsors and donations to further the development of the project. Thank You.
Posted by:Morada EngineeringAugust 24, 2007 8:25:36 AMRespond ^
What an IDIOT!! I drive a Tractor Trailer and deal with these fools constantly. Try it here in PA. and it could cost you $206.00 and 8 points (5 of them for agressive driving). Try it with me and I will be more than glad to report you.
Posted by:MarkAugust 25, 2007 11:39:14 AMRespond ^
Dont draft trucks. It might save you some mileage, but it suck mileage from the truck. Also, its damn dangerous for you, the truck driver, and other drivers. Then again, these people sound like they would cause 40 accidents a day just to save on fuel mileage. Its just illegal. Maybe these guys admitting in the press to breaking several laws, the police could start writing them up now and stop this stupid stuff before a lot of people get killed. Hybrids are great, but there are millions of people who cant afford them. And really, is it worth going into debt for 5 years at 30 grand? You might save a couple grand a year in gas, but is the high car and insurance payment worth it? face it, if you kept your older car, tuned, tire pressure correct, and drove right, you would easily come out ahead at the end of 5 years, maybe even 10 years.
Posted by:LeFrogAugust 29, 2007 12:29:53 AMRespond ^
"Hypermilers are by far the most alert drivers out there and less likely to get in a wreck than the average person doing 20 mph over the speed limit, not to mention that at that high speed death is almost guaranteed." This sounds like a crack addict or alcoholic trying to justify his habit. How many accidents are caused by idiots driving 20 mph on the highway? Yes, traffic jams do slow traffic down, but in between traffic jams you usually see most drivers trying to at least reach the posted speed limit. Not saying this is smart for fuel economy, but its the truth. You put a couple idiots out there who have the attitude that no one else matters, my fuel mileage and me are all that matters in the world, and you have an accident waiting to happen. Drafting, using what used to be referred to as "Mexican overdrive" and other techniques are illegal for a reason. They increase the odds of having a life threatening accidents. But, when people like this drive, they often feel that they are invincible and no one else matters. When that Tractor Trailer comes over a hill and has to stop quickly because some idiot is doing 20 in a 60 to save on mileage, the idiot drafting the big rig gets to try on a body bag. Then again, those are the people who insist it will never happen to them. Just like the alcoholic, crack users, and people who use cell phones while driving. HyperMileage drivers are mental impaired by delusions of grandeur. It wont happen to me. Ive seen it close up an personal many times over the years. I can honestly tell you , it can. and driving like you are, it usually does sooner or later. You can tell yourself your the safest, sane, and most perfect of all drivers. That still doesnt make it so. How are you going to feel when your stupidity ends up killing someone? Oh wait, of course you will insist it wasnt your fault.
Posted by:LT.Indy stateAugust 29, 2007 12:53:48 AMRespond ^
Hey, maybe you should do an article on how you could save on the cost of fuel by robbing gas stations? It makes almost as much sense as what these clowns are doing!
Posted by:DukeAugust 29, 2007 12:59:54 AMRespond ^
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Posted by:DandyAugust 29, 2007 7:57:14 AMRespond ^
Ah dont be such wus. Its ur car, u can drive anyway ya like. long as u dont git blamed far a reck u aint done a thing wrong. save money and gas is impotatn ta ur live
Posted by:getRdoneAugust 29, 2007 7:47:17 PMRespond ^
I cant believe MJ would condone this kind of action. Yes, there are some very responsible tips dropped here and there in this article, but most of the things described here are not only illegal, but just dangerous. Stupid driving to save some money doesnt give it brag about. Whats next for MJ, How to make money by selling Crack. How to get lots of date by raping women. How to succeed in business by hiring a hit man Im sure there would be small useful tips in each one of those. Like needing to focus yourself and be cautious of your surroundings. But the bulk of the message is just wrong. Just like this article.
Posted by:roadhogAugust 29, 2007 7:53:10 PMRespond ^
Ive tried FAS before. But after shifting into reverse at 50 and 60 mph a few times and hearing that noise that sends shivers up your spine , and scary thoughts of an empty wallet into my mind, I stopped that silly stuff. ( automatic trans)
Posted by:high milesAugust 29, 2007 7:59:37 PMRespond ^
This is just stupid! What a great way to get people to get killed on the highway.
Posted by:DezzyAugust 30, 2007 2:13:09 PMRespond ^
RIDE A BIKE!
Posted by:Big GreenAugust 30, 2007 2:25:15 PMRespond ^
Wow! I'm going to definately try all this out. I average about 19 mpg in my 1989 BMW 325i and I am always depressed when I have to refil. Getting 30-40 mpg would make me a very happy camper. Power to all you hypermilers.
Posted by:Mr. BMW 325iAugust 31, 2007 12:35:56 PMRespond ^
Some things bear repeating because some people just don't have enough common sense to see the big picture. You can save a few dollars on gas, but if it causes you to have extra wear and tear on your car, YOU ARE ACTUALLY LOSING MONEY! Not to mention, everything has a value attached to it, including time. I don't know exactly how to say this so that it will make sense, but while you are taking an extra half hour getting from point A to point B because you do things like coast to a stop instead of using brakes, I am out there living my life and getting things done. I won't even get into unsafe driving habits (not using brakes, tailgating, speeding around corners, pulling out of parking spots forward, etc). People thing gas is sooooo expensive, and they just really harp on it over and over. Sure, it's more than it used to be, but it's not the crisis that stupid people make it out to be. There are so many better ways to save money. Watch your utilities at home, pick up coins you see lying on the street, shop on double-coupon day, use credit cards that offer the best rewards, shop at wal-mart instead of the chain-grocery stores (that alone can save you hundreds of dollars each month), eat leftovers instead of throwing them away - the list goes on and on and on.
Posted by:kevinSeptember 6, 2007 1:37:26 PMRespond ^
Sounds like the rest of the lifestyle probably involves a lot of things that include petroleum consumption in their delivery and production. How about that two hour commute? Why not move to where you can walk/bike to work? To take this dangerous behavior on the public roads is foolish and selfish. Reducing your consumption is great, but not at the risk of the safety of others. By all means though, feel free to FAS or FE or whatever right off a cliff.
Posted by:JonSeptember 11, 2007 7:54:36 AMRespond ^
It seems to me the idea here is more of a challenge to get the best milage not neccessarily saving money. Kind of like the mountaineers reason for climbing a mountain "because it's there." Trying to reduce reliance on oil and limit green house gas on a personal level makes sense as well but the obvious question to me is.... How much fuel did you burn getting to a MPG competition!! Ha!
Posted by:5691gergSeptember 11, 2007 9:04:11 AMRespond ^
Keep it up guys. You may not solve the gas shortage but if you keep at it you can at least make a contribution toward solving the overpopulation problems.
Posted by:4x4September 12, 2007 11:03:38 PMRespond ^
I have a 2007 Dodge Caravan, tried the coasting down the hills ( key off sometimes )Here in WV the hills are what kills the MPG, no jack rabbit starts, windows up, no a/c, overinflated tires to 38psi, stayed under speed limit 5 mph ( sometimes more up hills ) Didnt mash the gas up the hills just to stay at fast speed. Before I read any of this once I had set my tripometer and had gotten 420 miles with a full tank ( not sure if was even reset ) As of right now the gas light just came on which the manuel says you have approx 3 gallons left and I have 457 miles on the trip. When I filled the tank the pump said 21.4 gallons in a 20 gallon tank?? Anyways there is a diffence but you have to be very cautious of what you do and pay alot of attention on your driving habits to acheive this. The van is loaded with prob at least 200 lbs of work stuff and my 158 lb body also the full gas tank. My next test will be not doing the key off down huge hills no neutral coasting, using A/C with the windows up, then just driving little slower and see what if any differnce just paying attention to my speed.
Posted by:LongshotSeptember 28, 2007 9:44:12 PMRespond ^
I agree that the shutting the car off is bad idea. I am sure the wear and tear on the starter, flywheel etc in the long run would add up to more than the fuel cost you saved. Also I would assume coasting in an AutoTrans wouldnt be a good idea if you have to shift back into drive going at the speed limit.
Posted by:LongshotSeptember 28, 2007 9:48:31 PMRespond ^
Ok I got 510 miles out of the caravan nd had around a gallon of gas left in the tank so lets say I would have gotten 530 miles out of the tank so that would be 25 mpg. Not too bad for a heavy van with alot of weight in it as well.
Posted by:longshotSeptember 30, 2007 3:15:18 PMRespond ^
if anything, he is saving lives not destroying them.
Posted by:lonaOctober 8, 2007 3:23:09 PMRespond ^
As with all things, going to an extreme is not always a good thing all the time, but hypermileage driving techniques can have a proper place and time. Sounds like fun hobby! Just don't do it during rush hour, please! Or whne/where it can endanger others. Want to save a ton of gas? Plan your trips to minimize miles traveled and try to do as many errands at one time as is reasonably possible. As I side note, I drove a Canadian Smart car yesterday that had a scangauge on it. I was able to temporarily achieve 200 MPG (no lie!) and had no trouble maintaining 100 MPG! In town! This car is not available for sales in the US because it doesn't meet our standards. The Smart car that we will be getting will be powered by gasoline and only capable of getting 40-50 MPG in normal driving. Think how much driving the diesel version could save us! Alas, it is not to be. Wayne, have you tried your hypermileage driving in one of these diesel Smarts? You'd easily top 200 MPG overall.
Posted by:smartfanOctober 11, 2007 4:48:30 AMRespond ^
I totally agree with your thoughts on our reliance foreign oil, but why do you drive foreign made cars, if americans bought american cars there would be no need for the Honda plants in our great country, I know , I know the old song and dance their cars are so much better than ours, well thats just not the case any more. Well who do you like better Osama for attacking the World Trade Center or the Japanese for Pearl Harbor. I prefer to support America.
Posted by:BillOctober 11, 2007 10:59:55 PMRespond ^
So, what's wrong with driving in the far right lane...so far that he's almost on the shoulder? Nothing!!! especially if he's only 5-10mph under the speed limit. If you try it you'll find you have much more time to react to a potential traffic problem and your stopping distance will be drastically reduced. I say to the speeders, you're only finding drivers like wayne a hazard because you're driving too fast to slow down enough to avoid a rear end collision. And that's certainly illegal no matter what the speed limit in Texas. Probably other states as well. As for speeding around the exit ramp. If you drive the same route daily, soon you find the fastest safe speed at which you can negotiate the ramp and I think that's what wayne has done, in Tx. speed limits don't decrease on ramps but suggested speeds are posted which are usually a bit low, except for maybe a top heavy 18 wheel van in a crosswind. Keep the brakes as cold as possible. You pay dearly for the heat it takes to heat the brake discs/drums. I say, right on wayne!!! I have an ancient '82 GMC half ton pickup. The biggest half ton they made with a long wheelbase and wide bed that I use on a 30 mile round trip daily commute. It weighs in at 4900 pounds dry and no load (no fuel in tanks). It's the 6.2L diesel and I'm getting 30-33 mpg on the commute. I keep it at 50 or so on a road with 3 lanes in each direction along with a center left turn lane and drive in the far right lane. There's also a paved shoulder on both sides. I have people passing me constantly at 70 or so mph (speed limit is 60 on that road). I find I usually get to my destination neck and neck with the 70 mph crowd because of the traffic lights. Worst case maybe one traffic light later (30 - 45 seconds). For me that extra minute to 1.5 minutes per day spent commuting is a small amount of time to pay for saving a little under a gallon of diesel daily. (The GMC gets about 17-18 mpg @ 75 mph). If you know a little about math, consider this. Wind resistance increases as the square of your speed, all the way from zero to around mach 1, but I don't think we need to worry about mach 1 on the streets and roadways. The horsepower the engine needs to put out to maintain a cruise speed increases as the cube of the speed. For example 75 mph requires 3.375 times as much horsepower as 50 mph IN ANY VEHICLE, whether it's a semi, a hypermilage vehicle, a motorcycle or anything else. Your fuel consumption at 75 mph per unit time will also be 3.375 times that at 50. Gas mileage doesn't drop as the cube of the speed though, it's just an inverse square relationship because of the higher speed. For example (75/50)^2 = 2.25 so a car that gets, oh, say 18 mpg at 75 mph will get about 40.5 mpg at a constant 50. The reason I don't do that well in my truck is the driving cycle (about 40% of my commute is traffic lights with about 0.25 mile spacing) and that 5000 lb truck requires a lot of fuel to re-accelerate up to 50. I have tried it though on 200 mile road trips and found that I indeed got 39 mpg. Probably not 40.5 because of a rest stop and subsequent re-acceleration along the way. So the math is there to prove it. I also owned a diesel VW rabbit in the '80s that averaged 39-42mpg on the highway at 70 mph with 4 adults aboard. I tried the same thing with it on a 200 mile round trip with a small amount of city driving at the far end of the trip and only myself aboard and a steady 50 mph, windows closed and no air conditioning (about 50F outside so I didn't need it). My round trip average was 67.46 mpg on that trip, again, the difference is probably due to starts and stops, I think about 10 in all w