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Or perhaps a little sooner. "The consultancies, the Jerome Armstrong 'scandal,' the tnr kerfuffle—all these things are cropping up because the power of the blogosphere is undeniable and will NOT go away," wrote Maryscott O'Connor, of My Left Wing, in a post titled "Something Is Rotten in Blogmark," shortly after the Moulitsas-tnr spat. "This is what happens when you crash the gates. All of a sudden, you're not just a pajama-clad kid in his parents' basement; once you've demonstrated your power and influence, people start demanding accountability and transparency. They want to know, for instance, that you aren't pushing a candidate MERELY because you (or your friends) have been paid by that candidate to do so."

When I reached O'Connor this spring at her home in Sherman Oaks, California, she said the Townhouse flap had been on her mind recently. A 39-year-old stay-at-home mom, she has earned a devoted following with her intemperate, gripping screeds on her blog and on Daily Kos. (A month after we spoke, Moulitsas banned her from the site over a copyright violation.) O'Connor speaks like she writes, in stream-of-consciousness bursts, and she told me she had begun to feel there was a "schism" in the blogosphere. "I think that certain bloggers, the big ones, think politics is sexy," she said. "They want in, and they're getting in. They'll do anything to get in, almost. They want a seat at the table. They want to be in the inner circle of the Democratic Party." A member of Townhouse, she was at first reluctant to talk about the list but changed her mind midway through our conversation, predicting that her comments would get her banished. "It's fucking Skull and Bones, man," she said. "The very secretive, behind-closed-doors nature of it is anathema to everything that blogging is supposed to be about: accountability. We are supposed to be showing the way, not skulking around behind closed doors, coming up with strategies. Those are the people who we're trying to fight. I know about 'the real world' and all that shit. But we're the idealists, aren't we?"

As the medium is co-opted and incorporated into both Democratic and Republican hierarchies, more controversies are bound to follow. Already there's evidence that "sock puppets" are showing up on blogs—political pros masquerading as grassroots posters. In one incident uncovered by the conservative blog Red State, an operative with ties to John McCain's political action committee authored posts on the blog praising the Arizona senator and criticizing rival Rudy Giuliani. Meanwhile, Patrick Hynes, the consultant who founded Ankle Biting Pundits (formerly Crush Kerry), was the first well-known blogger of the '08 cycle caught failing to disclose a conflict: He wrote posts on his own blog supporting John McCain and knocking Mitt Romney, but never told his readers that he was under contract with the McCain campaign.

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As bloggers attain power and influence, they will undoubtedly find themselves subject to the same withering scrutiny they've bestowed on other powerful people. And they won't take it quietly. During the Townhouse fight, Zengerle was slammed both politically and professionally, with some comparing him to the infamous New Republic fabricator Stephen Glass. "It was like, how can we discredit Zengerle?" he says. "The same way that if you're running a political campaign you would say, 'How can we discredit John Kerry?'" K. Daniel Glover, editor of the National Journal's Technology Daily and author of the site's Beltway Blogroll, was the target of similar vitriol in December after penning a New York Times op-ed that explored bloggers' financial connections to campaigns. "You might think that with the kind of rhetoric bloggers regularly muster against politicians, they would never work for them," he wrote. "But you would be wrong." He also noted that "few of these bloggers shut down their 'independent' sites after signing on with campaigns, and while most disclosed their campaign ties on their blogs, some...did so only after being criticized by fellow bloggers."

"There was quite a nasty reaction to my op-ed," says Glover. "I've been surprised at how thin-skinned bloggers can be. You compare that with how they treat the mainstream media and how they'll go after them and attack them, but when anything at all is said about the blogosphere, they go off half-cocked."

Part of the problem, says Armstrong, is that journalists wrongly apply their own ethical standards to nonjournalists. "From my perspective, I'm like, what are you talking about? You know I'm a Democrat. If I wasn't working for the person, I'd still be advocating for them. I'm a full-time partisan operative." Back in 2005, Armstrong set out his own ethics rule of thumb: "What the campus blogethicists don't understand is that we are at war out here every day on the front lines as partisan Democratic activist bloggers against a Republican machine that uses whatever means it takes to win. So, if it's not against the law, I don't want to hear about it, because in the political arena, the first thing that matters in elections and campaigns is winning, with the only accountability being the electioneering laws of Congress. Only after winning do we have a chance at enacting a progressive agenda." Moulitsas chimed in on Daily Kos: "Anyone that tries to tell me how to act will get a big middle finger shoved up their face."

Moulitsas has been on paternity leave and didn't respond to interview requests. When I emailed Townhouse list owner Matt Stoller to talk about this story, Stoller replied tersely: "Google 'blogger ethics panel.'" (A running blogosphere joke, the query brings up various tales of mainstream media hypocrisy.) Then he posted my email on MyDD as the inaugural message in a series he calls, simply, "Annoying Email."

So who, wonders Maryscott O'Connor, will crash the gate-crashers' party? "Once you get a taste of money and fame and power and adulation, how do you stay true to what got you there in the first place?" Everyone wants to win, she is quick to add. But: "When you play their game, you become everything that you were trying to beat. They're becoming," she says, a tremor of genuine horror in her voice, "Republicans."

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What are you laughing about, Gross? That's exactly what's going to happen. The net is unlimited so as soon as you become truly sold out and sans ethics another blog will come along and expose your bull[deleted]. After 20 years of the Republican party we are going to be in no mood to tolerate your greed and willingness to go along with the corporate mantra.
Posted by:timeisartJune 21, 2007 5:35:16 PMRespond ^
I will not read any of Daily Kos blogs ever again. So let it be said, so let it be read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by:P OedJune 21, 2007 10:48:43 PMRespond ^
This article is about 3 years too late. What the F is with you "big name alternatives" to the "big name liberals" anyway? Jesus F'in Kroyste. I was complaining about this nonsense of gate-keeping and hypocrisy 3 years ago, getting booted off Daily Kos 3 years ago blah blah blah. Well at least you "broke" the story before 2010.
Posted by:liquified visceraJune 21, 2007 10:58:24 PMRespond ^
What I see here is a continued conflict between left/right,conservation/liberal,Republican/Democrat. Has it occured to anyone that there are forces controling both sides of the equation. It's the classic thesis/antithesis/synthesis. It's been going on for quite some time now. The puppeteer controls both sides for a guaranteed control of the equation. Duh
Posted by:robertJune 22, 2007 6:19:27 AMRespond ^
"Moulitsas' reaction echoes the very control-the-message philosophy the blogosphere once rose up to fight." Horse[deleted]. First of all, "controlling the message" isn't a philosophy. It's just about organization and discipline. Grover Norquist has a weekly meeting of right wing journos, lobbyists, and other assorted hacks at which the wingnut messages and sound bites are handed out. What's wrong with the left doing the same thing? How else are we ever going to get rid of the fascists? It's not organization and discipline that are fascistic, it's their policies. Should the US Army in WW II have done away with their command structure and soldiers' ranks, just because the Wehrmacht had the same structure and ranks? stupid... Besides which, Moulitsas wasn't telling people to lie, as the right wing does. He's telling people it's a good idea to ignore a nonm-story. So what?
Posted by:LongTomJune 22, 2007 6:27:12 AMRespond ^
"it's often the appearance of taint that counts" Hell yeah I second that. It ain't a party until someone shows their taint.
Posted by:Taint loverJune 22, 2007 8:12:15 AMRespond ^
what a whinner! this is truley a non-issue. go back to the rubber stamp crowd or open your eyes to what really is happening. sorry to waste my time reading the three page non-story.
Posted by:mikebeeJune 22, 2007 8:41:33 AMRespond ^
Why no mention of the Free Republic crowd in the blog dominance game? Or is it only oppressive when a bunch of whiny, do-nothing leftists decide they have credible opinions?
Posted by:A. MagnusJune 22, 2007 11:24:40 AMRespond ^
Grover Norquist helped to assemble the Devil's Alliance between Big Oil, AIPAC, Right Wing Fundamentalist, Corporations and who ever else was interested in oppressing the common man. Theirs is an alliance based on mutual support of each others agenda and in turn their agendas are also supported... hence companies like Wal-mart allowing their pharmacist to refuse to sell contraceptives least their fundie partners be miffed. Fundies are the first in line to support false arguments for climate change to the cheers of their oily brethren. Kos ain't no Grover. His idea of alliance is to bash all of the traditional Democratic base and force them to parrot so called "Democratic" talking points which are very similar if not identical to GOP talking points...and always against their own interest. In Koslandia these people are called "Purists" and "Concerned Trolls"... ie anyone who is against support Republican Democrats. Kos has made it his personal vendetta to rid the Democratic party of pro choice advocates (he has recently allowed abortion diaries on the front page...only because his hits are taking a dive)... I guess that Kos has never read the statistic that 60% of the Democratic party are women... those "sanctimonious women set" ( http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/6/6/1125/10793 ) If there is any good to come from this article is for once and for all that Kos stop perpetrating the fraud that he is liberal or even progressive, as he is neither. He is nothing but the talking parrot and stenographer of the DLC an organization formed exclusively to push the Democratic party to the right in line and in cahoots with the Republican party. As Kos admits himself he "jumped the shark" four years ago. My guess is when he became a fellow at NDN and organization that was created to screen and obstruct liberals from getting elected into the Democratic Party by pimping "selected" candidates to corporate Johns. Kos takes ads from Chevron then pokes a finger in the progressive eye on his front page telling the world that he actually voted for their anti energy reforms in CA... a true progressive... then recently he touted Ah-nold as the Democrats best friend... what more does this man have to do to proclaim that he is not progressive... he refuses to even call himself a Democrat, Kos say he is a Libertarian... wake up people and get a clue. The majority of those that are still on Kos are operatives and staff members of DLC office holders... or looking for a job. Their goals on Kos is to root out and kill any progressive talk and to pump up the volume of right wing talking points. Is it any wonder that the "netroots" candidates (selected in secret with no known criteria) ended up in the Blue Dogs contingency whose first order of business upon taking office was to meet with Bush and get their orders. It has become a farce. The the DSCC instructed the "netroots" to get behind that candidacy of Casey-(PA nutter) who had no business even uttering the word Democrat... now the DSCC is sending out tearful "calls for action" because there are not enough Senators to vote for stem cell without a veto... yet it is this very same DSCC that cleared the field in PA for Casey to run. Kos is just a symptom of a Democratic Party beholding to everyone else but their own base. Therefore, the only blame that I can assign Kos is that he is just a mouthpiece but worse than Tony Snow because at least Snow is working for the good of his GOP base...Kos is working to the detriment of the Democratic base and for the "selected" few in leadership.
Posted by:Not GroverJune 23, 2007 2:20:40 AMRespond ^
As for fund raising... Kos is now toxic. Way...way...way... too many bait and switches on candidates that were supposedly progressive who turned out to be solidly regressive conservatives Bean, Herseth, Murphy, Salazar, Webb, Casey etc. etc.... starts to make a pattern... (after the fact true progressives that they finally came to promote are not listed) You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time... the Kos ATM is running on empty. People have to have a little trust in what you are saying for them to open their wallets...
Posted by:Not GroverJune 23, 2007 2:54:43 AMRespond ^
Very late to the game. This ihas brrn rehashed over an d over again! It's a drama that people like MSOC like to believe is still current. Now she's horrified but before this recent take she was very much trying to be a big shot! The blogs have influence because somebody needed to take on the negligence of the MSM. Since they don't seem willing to criticize Bush and his administration, preferring instead to recite Karl Rove's talking points, the blogs will continue to hsve influence. Get a grip on ehy they became so important to beging with. Now that might be a story worth reading!
Posted by:AnonymousJune 23, 2007 6:56:05 AMRespond ^
Mary Scott O'Connor and a few others cast themselves as victims of the evil empire. Yet it's O'Connor's own piss-poor instincts and behavior that knocked them out of any A-List. O'Connor has always been more concerned about what she perceives as her natural right to stardom than any larger goal. And when she isn't accorded full adulation, she throws fits. I've been around a few of these people in real life, and they're not reliable. Their instincts and information aren't reliable, and their motivations are suspect. Kos and the other A-Listers aren't perfect and have made some monumental blunders. But such is life. At least their blogs offer a degree of reliability and accountability, and the motivations are clear: elect Democrats. The same can't be said for O'Connor.
Posted by:A Nona MooseJune 23, 2007 8:56:13 AMRespond ^
In addition to the astute comments of A Nona Moose, MSOC knows absolutely of which she speaks when she says that politics is sexy and that bloggers will do anything or almost anything to get a seat at the table because she has tried almost everything resulting only in demonstrating how little she knows about politics. It was Drama Diva continually expressed in scatological terms and continual violations of site rules to make sure she got the foulest language in the title of her diaries. But most of her contributions had more to do with the “Woe is Me” variety or the flat out “Look at me. Me. Me. Me. With those kinds of antics taking all the air out of a room, it becomes impossible to conduct any mature discussion concerning politics at all. Disregard for copyrights finally did her in but she had done herself in long before the actual banning with the community.. And my point about doing anything includes the 6 or so sockpuppets she has created since her banning to continue to heckle and make mischief. Therefore anything she says about “the boyz” (she refuses to recognize the other women) with a “block” of salt. Not a Winger
Posted by:Not a WingerJune 23, 2007 7:07:43 PMRespond ^
Where is Ron Paul?
Posted by:SovereignJune 27, 2007 4:46:45 AMRespond ^
"I think that certain bloggers, the big ones, think politics is sexy," she said. "They want in, and they're getting in. They'll do anything to get in, almost. They want a seat at the table. They want to be in the inner circle of the Democratic Party." In every venue of every human endeavor, it has always been thus. To expect that, on average, people might behave in some other way is the height of folly. It's not so much that power necessarily corrupts - 'corruption' is a pretty charged word - but that power is magnetic, strongly magnetic. If you don't like what the newly powerful are doing, it's up to you to starve them of oxygen by removing your support. If, on the other hand, they are furthering your agenda in smaller or larger ways continue to support them. It's OK to lose sight of individuals; just don't lose sight of ideas.
Posted by:SteveJune 27, 2007 2:40:40 PMRespond ^
Bush adopted KGB methods. This sort of thing happens. It's natural. The Jews exterminate people all the time. You become your oppressor.
Posted by:osisbsJuly 2, 2007 11:46:05 AMRespond ^
This is a non-story if ever there was one.! What a disappointing take for Mother Jones. It says nothing that aware people in the netroots didn't know before, and attempts to discredit bloggers because they've been successful and taken places at the table. The Democratic party has been hampered for years by inside-the-beltway "consultants" who collect huge fees and do do nothing more than give bad advice and help liberal candidates to lose. People who blog are knowledgeable, not easily herded, and perfectly capable of giving the "leaders" hell if they think the big guys (and gals) have gone astray. The blogs give a voice to those who haven't been heard by the establishment that uses them for an ATM machine. Not surprising that the establishment media - which Mother Jones seems to have joined - takes such a dim and condescending view of the blogosphere.
Posted by:PsycheJuly 2, 2007 12:34:23 PMRespond ^
My goals are for a grass roots effort to demand an end to the war, eliminate campaign financing by lobbyist, and deveop a program of socialized medicine. Hillary Clinton may be a Democrat, but is in the pocket of the medical industry, and she voted for the war, and she appears to lean to which ever side is the most expedient. We don't need another Bush/ Cheney in the White House. Why can't people see this, and why doesn't the Democratics in the House and Senate stand up to the Republicans. They stand up and then cower down. I certainly hope Gore runs for President.
Posted by:Vicki LawsonJuly 2, 2007 12:59:51 PMRespond ^
Very interesting - even the bloggers are seeking power, not just sharing information!!!
Posted by:Irene BoldenJuly 3, 2007 12:09:01 PMRespond ^
You goy think you can effect world politics. You're so stupid. Zionism rules.
Posted by:Zionism rules.July 5, 2007 8:57:33 AMRespond ^
Kucinich 2008! I stopped reading Kos when he trashed Dennis ^o^ Remember "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" is still dictatorship! THINK FOR YOURSELF. Do your own fact checks and let the truth prevail. NO side has a monopoly on truth; it has to be pieced together. But we're so much better off with the bloggers than without-don't forget that, either. Otherwise, it's FOX NEWS and nothing else. ugh.
Posted by:bamaslamaJuly 6, 2007 7:26:35 AMRespond ^
surprised? it is like that famous cyberspace saying: "hello my big big honey!"
Posted by:rituals in pagodasJuly 6, 2007 9:26:42 PMRespond ^
Now that you've read the hype about Kos, if you really want to understand him (his stint in training with the CIA), his super-wealthy right-wing Salvadoran oligarchy family that pollutes the Jaltepeque Estuary. These truths about Kos can all be found, with copious links to government and commercial websites, at "The Truth About Kos" blog. A lot of people are eulogizing the wonders of Kos, without ever bothering to research the "The Truth About Kos."
Posted by:Francis L. HollandJuly 27, 2007 9:02:21 AMRespond ^
http://the-truth-about-kos.blogspot.com
Posted by:Francis L. HollandJuly 27, 2007 9:03:15 AMRespond ^

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