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News: The scientific consensus is unambiguous: global warming is real and human-influenced, and we can do something about it. Here's what to tell those who suggest otherwise.

May 1, 2005


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Climate change is as old as the Earth. It’s a natural, not a human-caused, phenomenon.

It’s true that climate varies naturally over both short and long time-scales, but it’s possible to distinguish natural climate change from human caused climate change.

Scientists have conducted a number of “attribution studies” that compare observed changes in the global climate with those factors that are known to influence climate. These studies indicate that the climate change observed over the 20th century is due to a combination of changes in solar radiation, volcanic activity, land-use change, and increases in atmospheric greenhouse gases. Of these, greenhouse gases appear to be the dominant driver of climate change over the past few decades.

But that doesn’t prove that human activity is responsible for increases in greenhouse gases.

Not true. Some greenhouse gases, such as industrial halocarbons, are only made by humans, and thus their presence in the atmosphere can only be explained by human activity.

CO2 and CH4 are naturally occurring, generated by plant and animal respiration and decomposition. But, again, scientists can quantify the various sources (both natural and human) of such gases and measure their contribution to atmospheric concentrations. Current concentrations of the primary greenhouse gases (see above) cannot be accounted for without considering human activities, particularly the combustion of fossil fuels. Worse, global warming may increase the release of greenhouse gases from natural resources.

It’s naïve to think we can live without fossil fuels.

We can actually move away from fossil fuels, but not overnight. Just because our economy is dependent on fossil fuels now doesn’t mean it always has to be. In the medium to long term, with innovation, market incentives, and the right policies, we can transition to different fuels, different infrastructure, higher efficiency, and different technologies. We need to concentrate on the development of alternative energy sources such as wind energy and solar power. Technological innovation in energy efficiency is also important.

But the economic costs of transitioning are too high economically. What about the folks whose jobs are dependent on fossil-fuels?

True, the costs of addressing climate change are likely to fall disproportionately on certain industries, communities, and workers. But that’s not an argument for inaction on global warming; it’s an argument for designing and implementing programs that help workers adversely affected by climate change policies. These could include retraining and education for laid-off workers, advance notice of layoffs when possible, substantial income support for program participants, and maintenance of laid-off workers' health and pension benefits until they find suitable employment.

What about the cost to the economy at large?

Economic costs of climate change policies are defined as opportunity costs - in this case what must be sacrificed or changed in order to reduce emissions. Categories of economic costs include discouraged investment, slowed innovation, disrupted production, increased capital and operating expenditures, monitoring and enforcement costs, legal and other transaction costs.

However, there are "positive costs", or benefits, including productivity improvements from a cleaner environment and innovation-stimulating effects of regulation. And don’t forget the benefits arise from avoiding big problems, like scarcer water resources, damages to human-built environment; coastal flooding due to sea-level rise, and human-health impacts.

Well, if you want to talk about benefits, won’t climate change produce as many good effects as bad?

Current assessments indicate that agriculture and forestry in the United States are likely to benefit from low to moderate climate change, although these benefits will not be evenly distributed geographically, and some regions will experience damages. With continued warming, however, benefits will likely peak and subsequently decline, and the effects of climate change for the nation as a whole in these sectors will turn negative.

Other benefits such as increased water availability, reduced energy demands, and greater ecosystem productivity may also occur in specific regions over the short or long-term. Such benefits will likely be balanced by opposite effects in other regions.

Well, OK, but if climate change is a real problem, it’s a global problem. Why should the US be expected to take the lead on this?

Because the United States is responsible for approximately 25 percent of global greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions to date, and its emissions continue to increase. As the world's largest economy, and the world's largest emitter of greenhouse gases, the United States is central to any long-term strategy to address global climate change.

Fine, but it’s an issue for governments to sort out. Ordinary citizens can’t do anything about global warming.

On the contrary, the two levels of engagement go hand in hand. Simple but effective things that individuals can start doing NOW include: reducing energy use at home by purchasing energy efficient home appliances; planting trees to absorb carbon from the atmosphere; walking or taking public transportation instead of driving; making smart consumer choices by purchasing environmentally sound products and energy-efficient vehicles; and practicing waste minimization, product reuse, and recycling.

OK, but what’s the rush? Shouldn’t we wait till we know more about the problem, if it is a problem, before rushing to turn our lives upside-down?

The scientific literature on global warming is very clear: we do not need to know more in order to conclude with confidence that the trend towards a warmer global climate is real, and that action should begin now. Waiting to take action ignores the strong evidence that GHG concentrations in the atmosphere are building and if left unchecked will exceed a doubling of their pre-industrial levels. Other compelling reasons to begin taking action include the potential for catastrophes that defy the assumption that climate change damages will be incremental and linear; the risk of irreversible environmental impacts; the need to learn about the pace at which society can begin a transition to a climate-stable economy; the likelihood of imposing unconscionable burdens and impossible tasks on future generations; the need to create incentives to accelerate technological development the address climate change; and the ready availability of "no regrets" policies that have very low or even no costs to the economy. Moving forward with a real and rational program to reduce GHGs allows us to address this challenge in a way that is timely, consistent, meaningful, and cost-effective.

Based on information from The Pew Center On Global Climate Change



 

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i really do think that global warmings is hogwash.
Posted by:Courtney TuchmanMay 29, 2007 1:33:14 PMRespond ^
"Hogwash" is a riveting arguement. "Global warmings"?? I am speechless.
Posted by:Suzie LounsberyJune 1, 2007 11:34:08 AMRespond ^
Global warming is EVERYBODY'S problem, but someone must take the leadership in order to make suggestions or pass laws to slow it down. If it continues as is, our grandchildren and their children won't be happy campers as the oceans rise. I wouldn't buy a seafront house, if I were you.
Posted by:Sylvia SteinbrockJune 1, 2007 4:13:28 PMRespond ^
I really like the way you explained things. When I needed to write my report, this site really helped! Global Warming is a serois problem and no one has the right to blame anyone when we don't have the facts. Its true that we are getting warmer but what is the cause? We can't blame anyone until we know everything. Now THATS a fact.
Posted by:SarahJune 5, 2007 6:39:57 PMRespond ^
The global warming discussion has been entirely too one-sided. How about mentioning studies which have shown a decreased death rate with warmer temperatures? The climate is a complex system and it seems to me the predictions expressed with such certainty are naive.
Posted by:DavidJune 20, 2007 5:34:19 PMRespond ^
The assertion that there is a "consensus" among scientists that global warming is real and man mad is patently false. In recent surveys of climate scientists the overwhelming majority have agreed that the science is unsettled and not strong enough to make policy decisions. Moreover, many past proponents of the man-made global warming theory have publicly changed their positions in the past several years to question the theory. Finally, many of the scientists listed as co-authors of the much publicized IPCC disagreed with the final report and asked that their names be removed (the UN published the report with their nam
Posted by:Chicago JoeJune 27, 2007 7:38:23 AMRespond ^
Global warming is caused by the 15 century cycle of solar wind. It is the wind that affects climate, not solar temperature. Our government, together with the other major nations of the world, is actively working to reduce the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. This flurry of intense activity is based upon the unproven Greenhouse Theory. According to this theory, increasing carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as methane will cause the earth's climate to dramatically heat up, with consequent serious loss of life and property. Discussions on this topic are shrill, full of emotional urgency. We are shouting that we must save the planet! If we were truly concerned about human life on earth, we would spend much more money doing research on Near Earth Objects, which can collide with the earth and damage us like a nuclear bomb. We have detected only about 10% of NEO's. Once a dangerous NEO is detected, the solution is to send up a large rocket, which would nudge, by gravitational attraction, the orbit of the NEO away from us. We ignore this true dangerous issue at our peril. A NEO killed the dinosaurs. It is wrong to focus so much attention on the wrong problem. The truth about carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as we know from studies from the past centuries and millennia, is that when the earth heats up, the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere increase, several centuries later. The factual evidence is that climate warming CAUSES increasing carbon dioxide. Increasing carbon dioxide does not cause warming! The actual cause of warming is the reduction of clouds that reflect sunlight. Cosmic rays that transverse the universe hit atoms in the atmosphere, ionizing them, and causing them to act like seed for cloud formation. The sun emits a stream of charged particles, called the solar wind. This stream is an electrical current and creates a magnetic field, which deflects the cosmic ray charged particles. The solar wind increases and decreases over a period of about 15 centuries. When the wind is high, as it is now, most cosmic rays are deflected, and there are not too many clouds. When the wind is low, cosmic rays get through, clouds are formed. It gets dark, dreary, and cold. We puny humans cannot do anything about the sun. It is going to get very cold and very warm every 15 centuries, and we have to adapt in order to survive. Now that the earth is warming up, we need to invest in electric power plants to supply our air conditioning needs. We need to invest in power in Africa and South America, so that they can have electric power, and not chop down trees for fuel that pollutes. Any money spent on Kyoto nonsense is wasted money. Please, dear reader, think for yourself, and not just believe what you are told. We now have access to the Internet, which can give us answers. The Greenhouse Theory is false as there is no evidence from historical records to justify the conclusions. For example, in 1940 there was a climate cooling which lasted decades, in spite of the huge increase of carbon dioxide. Look in history, and we can see major events correlated with the solar cycle. For example, the collapse of the Roman Empire was around the time of climate cooling due to the decrease of the solar wind. I have read scientific papers that claim to support the Greenhouse Theory. Sorry, but I do not agree with their conclusions, as they ignore historical evidence. Yes, we must reduce carbon dioxide and other atmospheric pollutants, in order to improve our health and quality of life. However, let us not say that we must reduce carbon dioxide or else the earth will get too hot! Al Gore made a passionate appeal for carbon dioxide reduction. He based this on the fact that our climate is warming. No one disagrees with this fact. The argument is the reason for the warming. No, Mr. Gore, it is not man-made activities. No, Mr. Gore, there is nothing human beings can do to change this. Accept reality and adapt. Build more power plants, including nuclear plants. Do research how we can safely build nuclear breeder reactors and fusion power. Our focus must be on how we adapt, not how we can act like God and change the sun! There is a serious question why do so many scientists, politicians, and media people persist in pushing this Greenhouse Theory nonsense. We need to examine this question carefully. Our leaders are not honest. Many scientists are also dishonest. Too many of us are corrupt. We are all in great danger from this corruption. Do such people view man as inherently destructive, instead of viewing people as inherently moral, trying to do the best for themselves and others? Thank you very much.
Posted by:Dr. Sanford AranoffJune 30, 2007 8:29:15 AMRespond ^
yubba dubba doo! We are getting hosed every time we turn around. Gimme some truth!! great article.....
Posted by:Amax AndersonJuly 25, 2007 8:04:32 PMRespond ^
what would happen if we don't clean up?
Posted by:jenneyAugust 17, 2007 3:26:18 PMRespond ^
"Dr" Aranoff, please keep your wind to yourself.
Posted by:BillSeptember 17, 2007 5:11:22 PMRespond ^
Global warming is like the new fad, or hobby, butit's not true!!
Posted by:KDSeptember 21, 2007 7:45:40 AMRespond ^
Global Warming – Man Made or Natures Cycle R5 The debate: Is the observed global warming natural or man made? Global Warming or natural climatic rhythm? Global Warming Man made or natural cycle? Compiled by Yehuda Draiman, Energy Analyst There are numerous pros and cons as to the cause of Global Warming. After some study and research I share with you the various opinions. This consensus in this on-line article represents the views of some researchers and forecasters, but does not necessarily represent the views of all scientists. It was not the intention of this article to discount the presence of a human-induced global warming element or to attempt to claim that such an element is not present. There is a robust, on-going discussion on climate change within the scientific community. It takes a certain kind of gumption to stand up to the status quo. Folks who challenge the mainstream media and popular culture are subjected to some of the nastiest insults and character assassinations. And such retribution is nowhere more severe than for those who take issue with popular views about global warming. There are a number of very bright climatologists and meteorologists out there who believe that this century’s warming trend is neither critical nor man made. Now you can agree or disagree with these folks. But you can’t pretend that these folks are crazies or ill informed or just in it for the money. They believe that the models used by the “We’re all going to die!” global warming worriers are far too severe and fail to take enough natural factors into consideration in their climate models. For their audacity to take on the status quo, they have been censured, excoriated and labeled as lackeys for the oil companies. One degree. On a thermometer, it doesn't seem like much at all. But that degree has sparked intense debate among experts who monitor the temperature on Earth. In a new report issued by a leading group of scientists and meteorologists, research shows the planet has warmed one degree during the last 100 years. That report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change asserts that Earth will continue to warm between 2 and 10 degrees during the next century. Those researchers believe that global warming could be boosting the planet's temperature. Global warming is a phenomenon of temperatures rising on Earth. Scientists have said that some human activities cause gases such as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide to build up in the atmosphere. Those gases trap heat closer to Earth's surface giving the planet a worldwide fever. Many experts say two chemicals -- carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide -- are most responsible for global warming. Cars, trucks and factories around the world emit those chemicals everyday. Once in the atmosphere, those chemicals act as big reflectors, bouncing back sun rays to the Earth and warming the planet. But there are scientists, climatologists and weather watchers who believe that the warming trend is not an aberrant threat, but part of a natural cycle of warming and cooling on Earth. "We just haven't been around long enough to know if it's a fact," said CNN weather anchor Orelon Sidney. "The Earth is more than 4 billion years old and humans haven't been around that long. So this could just be a part of cycle." The scientists who believe the Earth is warming say years of research are needed to determine why. Dr. Lonnie Thompson, a researcher at the Byrd Polar Research Center located at Ohio State University, is among those attempting to discover the causes of global warming. He spends many months away from his home in search of answers. Thompson's latest trek to the Andes Mountains showed substantial changes in a glacier. "The glacier we have been studying has been melting at an unbelievable rate," Thompson said. "Where there was once ice, there is now a lake." Thompson photographed the new lake and glacier to show "obvious changes in our world because of temperature increase," he said. Thompson said a warmer earth could lead to more erratic weather. "If energy in the system -- the heat on the Earth's climate system --increases, then you're going to have more water vapor. More water vapor feeds more storms -- larger hurricanes, maybe larger snowstorms too." As a meteorology student at the University of Maryland, Antony Chen is among those who would watch for those weather changes. He is part of the next generation of researchers who will have to figure out what's behind the cause of the temperature bump. Chen says we have to look at the big picture then determine what changes people should make on the local level. "We need to know what's going on in the atmosphere, the magnitude of changes we are making to our climate system," Chen said. "Then we can start coming up with solutions." Professor Bruce Doddridge is one of Chen's professors and is encouraged by the caliber of young people he's seen entering the earth sciences. "I'm impressed with the variety of smart and intelligent people coming through that can do this work," he said. Doddridge concedes that there are many potential causes of global warming, but said he believes the new technology could help assess and solve the problem. "The issues are becoming more complicated," Doddridge said, "but I think the tools we have to work with are becoming more sophisticated." Many experts say two chemicals -- carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide -- are most responsible for global warming. Cars, trucks and factories around the world emit those chemicals everyday. Once in the atmosphere, those chemicals act as big reflectors, bouncing back sun rays to the Earth and warming the planet. But there are scientists, climatologists and weather watchers who believe that the warming trend is not an aberrant threat, but part of a natural cycle of warming and cooling on Earth. "We just haven't been around long enough to know if it's a fact," said CNN weather anchor Orelon Sidney. "The Earth is more than 4 billion years old and humans haven't been around that long. So this could just be a part of cycle." The scientists who believe the Earth is warming say years of research are needed to determine why. Dr. Lonnie Thompson, a researcher at the Byrd Polar Research Center located at Ohio State University, is among those attempting to discover the causes of global warming. He spends many months away from his home in search of answers. 1. The authors of Unstoppable Global Warming - Every 1,500 Years, say that history, ice core studies and stalagmites all agree on a natural cycle at roughly that interval that is superimposed on the longer, stronger ice ages and interglacial phases. They point as evidence of this natural cycle to the “Climate Optimum” - a period of warmer and wetter weather than the present Earth’s climate, which took place 9,000 years ago to 5,000 years ago, and a cooling event 2,600 years ago. During the Roman warming period from 200 BC to around AD 600 North Africa and the Sahara were wetter and supported crops. In more recent times they point to the medieval warming of 900 to 1300, when Eric the Red’s descendant’s colonized Greenland and the Little Ice Age of 1300 to 1850 which saw the Norse dairy farmers on Greenland grow short from malnutrition and eventually die out. Mr. Avery, a former US agriculture official whose celebrated earlier book was Saving the Planet with Pesticides and Plastic: The Environmental Triumph of High Yield Farming suggests that the natural cycle of warming and cooling may come from variations in cosmic rays which have been linked to cloud formation. This theory was validated in a recent paper in a Royal Society journal by scientists from the Danish National Space Centre who showed that sub-atomic particles - cosmic rays from exploding stars - play a major role in making clouds. During the past century cosmic rays became scarcer as vigorous activity by the sun forced them away. So there was less cloud cover to reflect away sunlight and a warmer world, according to the Danish scientists. 2. Policymakers have been arguing for nearly a decade over what to do about global warming. Noticeably missing from this debate has been any mention of the fact that natural fluctuations in the Earth’s temperature, not Man, are the likely explanation for any recent warming. Proponents of the global warming theory repeatedly cite a 1.5° F temperature increase over the last 150 years as evidence that man-made CO2 is dangerously heating up the planet and will cause huge flooding, severe storms, disease and a mass exodus of environmental refugees. Based on this, the Clinton Administration and its environmental allies want Congress to ratify a treaty that will hike consumer prices 40 percent and cost the American economy $3.3 trillion over 20 years. But the apocalyptic predictions on which they justify these drastic steps are totally unsubstantiated and ignore some fundamental truths about the Earth's climatic behavior. The fact is, the planet's temperature is constantly rising and falling. To put the current warming trend in perspective, it's important to understand the Earth's geological behavior. Over the last 700,000 years, the climate has operated on a relatively predictable schedule of 100,000-year glaciations cycles. Each glaciations cycle is typically characterized by 90,000 years of cooling, an ice age, followed by an abrupt warming period, called an interglacial, which lasts 10,000-12,000 years. The last ice age reached its coolest point 18,000 to 20,000 years ago when the average temperature was 9-12.6° F cooler than present. Earth is currently in a warm interglacial called the Holocene that began 10,700 years ago.
Posted by:Yehuda DraimanSeptember 30, 2007 10:13:15 PMRespond ^
global warming is horrible to our enviroment and is killing so many animals in the world.
Posted by:bobOctober 5, 2007 12:48:05 PMRespond ^
global warming is horrible to our enviroment and is killing so many animals in the world.
Posted by:bobOctober 5, 2007 12:48:53 PMRespond ^
How could u just sit there and after all of these people have just explained that global warming is fact and not fiction and yet some of you still dont belive its true! what have you got to prove?! all u did was say "Its still not true".... aaaaaand?....... what else? there is nothing left to say! your bloody retards, those who still choose not to belive it! and this is the very first thing we need to clear before we move onto fixing the problem! we ALL need to work together, "You cant say you saw a ghost even though you still dont belive in them" It makes no sence! how can u fix something u dont even belive in?! which is why we all need to start beliving the truth!!!
Posted by:TaiOctober 7, 2007 10:14:37 PMRespond ^
Your a bloody retard!
Posted by:TaiOctober 7, 2007 10:15:26 PMRespond ^
In what way do you think it's hogwash Courtney? Please explain your position.
Posted by:Anna AmarillaOctober 31, 2007 3:22:37 PMRespond ^
You know some "real" articles from peer reviewed scientific journals to support your view would be nice....then again with fear mongering, who needs real data driven research, especially when it could be unpopular??
Posted by:David BruningNovember 17, 2007 6:42:26 AMRespond ^
Lets hope our handsome politicians make a cheap and easy last minute solution.
Posted by:John DickfootDecember 2, 2007 12:22:38 PMRespond ^
wow i dont wanna die from too much water. how is that possible? i like to swim...
Posted by:hannahDecember 6, 2007 1:01:15 PMRespond ^
u r tarded
Posted by:hailyDecember 6, 2007 1:08:29 PMRespond ^
Such lies, global warming does exist. it is complete tomfoolery to believe that what we are doing to the earth does not exist. In the end Human kind was made for one thing.....The destruction of its own existance. YES PEOPLE WE WERE CREATED TO DESTROY OURSELVES IN OUR OWN MISTAKES!!!!!!
Posted by:Ben DoverDecember 10, 2007 9:19:45 AMRespond ^
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Posted by:Person #1December 10, 2007 9:21:16 AMRespond ^
global warming is hogwash! if you look at recent photos of the green house gases affect on the earth's atmosphere today you will see that the atmosphere hasn't changed in the slightest
Posted by:charlie fosterJanuary 11, 2008 10:28:29 AMRespond ^
PAY AS YOU SAVE Energy conservation financing program The program will allow participants to purchase and install energy efficient products And equipment (or “measures”), with no up-front cost. These measures can include modifications to lighting, heating, cooling, other energy efficient electric, gas and non-electric equipment and systems. Major measures promoted: lighting, weatherization, water saving devices and clock thermostats in both electric and non-electrically heated homes and businesses. We should also accept a variety of measures (provided they pass the Program qualification. This can apply to any conservation method, renewable energy systems (solar, photovoltaic, geothermal, wind), electric, gas and water. Primary goals should be lighting retrofits, motor retrofit, HVAC efficiency, insulation and attic fans, windows, energy efficient appliances, water conservation equipment and techniques, utilization of gray water, landscaping for energy conservation. HOW DO WE PROPOSE TO FINANCE THE COSTS: There is no up-front cost to the participants? Instead, the utility pays all initial costs associated with the purchase and installation of approved measures. (We must keep the costs competitive and reasonable) Then, an Energy Finance Charge (EFC) is calculated and added to the ember’s/customers monthly utility bill until all costs are repaid. A fund will be set up and the payments will reimburse the fund monthly. Calculating the Term: Financing charge amounts itemized on the monthly utility bill should be based on two thirds of the estimated savings that will come from the measures installed. This way, the monthly charge should be designed to be less than the savings realized on each bill once the new measures are installed and implemented. If customers wish to pay off their Financing charges balances quicker (which in some cases they do), up to one hundred percent (100%) of the savings can be used to form the basis of their monthly Finance charge amount. Payments Linked to Meter (not customer): The payments are always linked to the service location, not to the customer. So if an Energy Financing Charge (EFC) participant moves or sells, the new owner continues making the payments for the duration of the payment term, unless the previous owner/tenant chooses to pay off the obligation before selling or moving. Also, the payments include a small percentage risk mitigation adder (5%) to protect the utility from bad debt risks associated with some portion of participants’ failure to pay. To protect the utilities and their broader membership/customer base against other potential risks, three key requirements are included in the EFC program for those that choose to participate: • Maintenance: All measures must be maintained in place and in good working order during the entire repayment period – the utility will help arrange for repairs, but any associated costs will be added to the EFC on the utility bill, or will extend the payment term to ensure recovery of these additional charges. • Disconnection: All payments must be made on time – EFC charges are treated like other charges on the utility bill that are subject to service disconnection for non-payment. • Disclosure: If the home or business is sold or rented, disclosure of the remaining monthly EFC payment amounts must be made to the potential purchaser or tenant (since they will be taking over the remaining payment obligation), unless the current owner chooses to pay the balance off before the sale or rental. This proposed program – managed efficiently, will advance and expedite our reduction in the use of energy and resources in an expedited manner and reduce our dependence on foreign energy sources. It will also promote an economic boom in the geographical areas where such program is implemented. Compiled by: Yehuda Draiman, Energy analyst – 1/1/2008
Posted by:Yehuda DraimanJanuary 16, 2008 1:12:26 AMRespond ^
global warming is a chess game between the media/polititians and the scientists/climatologists, most respectable and good scientists that are not trying to get personal gain say that global warming has been very slight and is not created by man made occurrences. However the most astonishing thing is that there is actually reason to believe that soon we will be facing a global cooling. imagine that! so please cry more.
Posted by:K-tizzleFebruary 5, 2008 9:56:09 AMRespond ^
whether you believe that global warming is real or not, or whether it is natural or manmade, I don't see the problem with at least trying to use cleaner technologies. We cannot afford to be dependant on foreign oil forever. We will have to make a change eventually so why not start now? those of you who disagree please let me know why in detail. I am curious to know especially if there is anyone who lives in a polluted city and doesn't think the air would be cleaner without fossil fuel burning. and don't think I'm ignorant, I've seen both sides of the debate. Sorry this is so long.
Posted by:DavidFebruary 11, 2008 9:21:17 PMRespond ^
THis info sucks!
Posted by:Your mamaFebruary 18, 2008 10:16:10 AMRespond ^
i like eggs
Posted by:jasonFebruary 18, 2008 2:26:18 PMRespond ^
You all are re-tar-ted. this is all about money. gov wan't more control more taxes more, more, more. control people- make them think something is very wrong and throw money at it. the ice has been melting for thousands of years, why should it stop now???? people, you all need to wake up and understand this is all a bunch of crap!!!
Posted by:John BoyFebruary 19, 2008 9:08:43 PMRespond ^
John Boy you need to understand how to spell. maybe you don't have much education on this matter, but you are right on the money. ( as in our tax money)
Posted by:cus' sueFebruary 19, 2008 9:12:50 PMRespond ^
i tjink global warming is pathetic. There is no such thing!!!!
Posted by:jaijaiMarch 17, 2008 7:32:56 AMRespond ^
I'm am so shocked to read this, and find terms like retard!! How old are you all?? I'm only 24, but I know that whether you believe in global warming or not, (guess what?), it is happening, and you cannot just ignore it... and if you are going to debate about it, then let's not call it hogwash or call each other retards!!
Posted by:ErikaMarch 21, 2008 10:06:05 AMRespond ^
anybody i have to go againt this debate at school the qestion is why is the government not baning products that conrtibute to global warming? so HELP ITS DUE TOM.
Posted by:briannaApril 3, 2008 5:39:07 PMRespond ^
"retarted"?
Posted by:RyanApril 14, 2008 8:02:28 PMRespond ^
Whether or not you believe in global warming, what is wrong with the idea of trying to find ways to at least clean up the [deleted] that cars spew out of their tail-pipes? The Japanese have cars that run on compressed air...why isn't that technology here, now? Big Oil, anything to say?
Posted by:RyanApril 14, 2008 8:04:35 PMRespond ^
Global Warming is not real
Posted by:marcusMay 7, 2008 7:43:44 AMRespond ^

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