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Sicko in the House

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June 21, 2007


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It's ironic, but outside of hospitals and day care centers, perhaps the best place to acquire some kind of illness on Wednesday in Washington, D.C., was at Michael Moore's press conference on Capitol Hill. The long lines and the sweaty, claustrophobic committee room were emblematic of the enthusiasm that Moore's appearance and Sicko, his new film on the decrepit state of U.S. healthcare, have generated both in Washington and around the country.

Behind the podium from which Moore and influential House Democrats spoke and answered questions, an array of sign-wielding activists stood along the back wall. Facing them from the other side of the room, women from the group Code Pink lofted a large, painted sign reading, "Healthcare now, for all." At one point, a security officer approached them about lowering the banner. Clearly ambivalent about his duty, he gave them a thumbs up.

The film, characterized by Moore's usual mix of wry humor contrasted sharply with somber personal narratives, traces the health care crisis back to the early 1970s when Richard Nixon, under pressure from Edgar Kaiser, helped launch the Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) system. That system is the prime cause, according to Moore and many others, of problems such as lack of insurance, underinsurance, and adverse selection that have caused our health care standards to topple well below those of other wealthy nations, including France, Germany, and Japan, all of which have government-paid universal health care systems. Today, as Moore noted both on Capitol Hill and in his film, there are four health care lobbyists in Washington for every member of Congress.

The high point of yesterday's hearing—the part that most resembled a scene in a Michael Moore movie—occurred when Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), chair of the House Judiciary Committee, spotted Rep. Darryl Issa (R-Calif.) standing quietly in the back of the room. Conyers thanked Issa "for making this a bipartisan issue," and invited him to stand in front of the crowd. Issa gestured in protest, making a cut-throat gesture at his neck, but to no avail. He was cowed into standing with Moore and the Democrats anyhow.

When Issa finally spoke, he did so extemporaneously, joking that his scheduler must have forgotten to inform him of this engagement. Then he reached for common ground, calling health care a "bipartisan issue," approvingly citing Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's health care plan for California, and suggesting that, while the parties "may differ on the specifics," Congress and the president "must take steps toward universal access."

On those specifics, Issa differs wildly from either Schwarzenegger or most Democrats. Schwarzenegger, one of a small handful of governors to aim to bring his state's health coverage anywhere near universality, recently enacted an individual mandate to buy insurance that will cover almost everybody in California. His policy sits somewhere in between Conyers' single-payer plan to provide Medicare for all, and a much more incremental plan Issa drew up in 2005, which would help some business owners secure health coverage for their employees via tax credits.

Aside from Moore, the loudest applause of the afternoon went to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), who beseeched universal health care activists not to "get in bed with the right wing who means us no good." Conyers, for his part, compared his work on the health care bill, H.R. 676, to his efforts years ago to make Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a national holiday. Back then, as today, he told the crowd, many of his colleagues said to him "you have a great idea, but you know you can't win."

After the hearing, Moore headed out to a theater in Washington's Union Station to hold yet another free screening—food and drink provided—for anybody in the city who has a career lobbying on behalf of private health care companies. No word yet on how many people attended.

Brian Beutler is the Washington correspondent for the Media Consortium, a network of progressive media organizations.



 

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It is important to support Micheal Moore's push for a better health care system by attending screenings of his film when they first come to town.
Posted by:ScottJune 22, 2007 4:57:16 AMRespond ^
Michael Moore's film will never be shown in Wyoming, the home of the Republican party. We had to use the public library and show the DVD on 911. Even the comedian Mark Russel isn't shown on Wyoming Public TV.
Posted by:ThomasJune 22, 2007 7:34:51 AMRespond ^
Healthcare in this country is killing us! Encourage as many people as you can to see SiCKO. And tell them it's okay to leave the movie frustrated and angry, but use that frustration and anger in a positive way to bring about change to a single payer system.
Posted by:AllenJune 22, 2007 12:17:57 PMRespond ^
Why was Dennis Kucinich (co-sponsor of the Conyers/Kucinich universal, single-payor health care bill) not mentioned? He is running for President, and his Universal Health Care will include everyone in America. This needs to be highlighted, and you must look at this at www.kucinich.us Please take a look, read about the bill, and insist your representatives sign on. This movie will open everyone's eyes! And Dennis Kucinich will heal not just our health care system, but our nation and it's role in the world.
Posted by:TomiJune 22, 2007 12:19:40 PMRespond ^
So, according to Moore, the problem with the health care system is rooted in government's initially becoming heavily involved in the system (ie: 'fixing' the system via HMO's) during Tricky Dick's administration. Government, therefore, IS the disease. So why is it logical to think that government is going to become the cure? They're as well suited to "fix" health care as they are to prevent drug abuse (and we know how well they're doing at that task, after spending trillions on the "War"...)
Posted by:gvcJune 22, 2007 12:20:32 PMRespond ^
Maybe Maxine and John can sponsor a bill which takes away the Congressional healthcare plan, and give it to soldiers and 9/11 rescue workers who can't get coverage. Maybe then we'd get some action. Also, stop buying Big Pharma products (buy generics only) and boycott the 'chain' hospitals like Humana and Bill Frist's HCA until they start begging government for protection.
Posted by:Steve FortunaJune 22, 2007 12:28:01 PMRespond ^
Response to gvc: Your comments are too simplistic. With four health indusrty lobbyists for every congress person, this will remain a problem that the government is involved with. Don't you think we as a nation could re-evaluate and make a new plan? In fact we don't even have to come up with anything radical or invent anything new - we can just copy systems being used by other countries, systems that are more succesful and provide better health care than we now have in the United States. It's time for something to be done.
Posted by:mitchJune 22, 2007 12:39:12 PMRespond ^
Health care for all means equality for all Americans. Keep trying!! Speedy
Posted by:speedyo14June 22, 2007 12:57:01 PMRespond ^
Check out Paul Starr's Pulitzer-winning history, The Social Transformation of American Medicine, a long thorough book that reveals that blaming the HMO's without blaming the AMA is misinformed.
Posted by:John HansonJune 22, 2007 1:11:02 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore is brilliant. He realized he had to abandon the anti-Bush polemic and use this movie to point out that even rich Republicans get shafted when they become sick and are notified their insurance policy can arbitrarily refuse to cover a procedure. Happens ALL the time. The shills are gearing up to scream boogeyman "socialized medicine!" but it might not work this time. I think this movie is going to take America by storm, when masses of people open their eyes and realize it is outrageously greedy insurance industry executive paydays worth tens of millions of dollars that are robbing us of equitable medical care.
Posted by:RussBBinVegas@aol.comJune 22, 2007 1:16:46 PMRespond ^
In response to gvc, the only "war" we will have spent trillions on (by the time we're thru) is the ridiculously ill-conceived & worse-executed (pun intended) one in Iraq. You know, the one that someone lost their job over when they esitmated the cost at over 2 billion & then had the timerity to announce the figure to the press... (but that was just in the first year of the war, so the public hadn't "caught on" yet at that point...) Anyway, bottom line, this country spends one half of all the money spent around the world yearly, for healthcare. And our "health," as a society, it turns out is exactly on a par with--ironically, Cuba, the very country Mr. Moore had to go to in order to get some sort of healthcare dilivered to the subjects in his film! ANY system is better (at least in terms of value for the dollars spent) than the one the corporations have foisted upon this hapless American public. ANY one! And believe me, I know a little bit of what I speak. I've worked within this healthcare system as a physician for over 30 years...
Posted by:dwo.mdJune 22, 2007 2:44:36 PMRespond ^
Health care in the USA is in a crisis. The insurance companies should never have been allowed to manage it, but I have yet to hear any candidate for president or memebr of Congress say they will remove the influence of these dictators.
Posted by:Maureen FahlbergJune 22, 2007 2:56:00 PMRespond ^
mitch: It's a simple question, but you didn't really tackle it. The question is: What logic leads us to believe that the people who have conducted the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, the War on Illiteracy, the War on Terror, a War in Vietnam, a War in Iraq, USDA meat inspection system, FDA and Medicare Part B could run something as complex as a national health care system? And how likely is it to be the one you want? It isn't as simplistic as copying some other nation's system either, because for any such system to be successful, it has to be tailored around the particular nation's economy, it's people and what's available in the way of health care at the present time. No two nations are equal on any one of those points. A "Copy & Paste" approach is asking for just the kind of disaster it'll no doubt become. To work for us, it's got to be built for us. I for one don't view our politicians and bureaucrats as being the people in who's hands I'd like to place my life.
Posted by:gvcJune 22, 2007 2:58:40 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore calls on us to live up to the best of the American spirit of caring for each other by assuring health care for all of us. Other countries seem to take care of their people without dangerous profiteering by private health insurance companies. So can we, if we insist that our elected representatives pass HR 676. Michael Brennan
Posted by:Michael BrennanJune 22, 2007 3:04:55 PMRespond ^
dwo.md: If you're an MD, then if you think about it, you know full well how many people are employed in an average doctor's office just to handle the government mandated paperwork today, don't you? And that's with far less government involvement than what's being proposed as a "solution". You think the cost and complexity will go DOWN? I strongly caution my children about speaking in absolutes, such as "Can't possibly happen", and if you've got children then I bet you do too. I strongly caution everyone not to convince yourself that "It couldn't possibly be worse", because it certainly could. BTW: We've already spent trillions in our decades old War on Drug Users, and ruined millions of lives and families in the bargain. And we're still losing.
Posted by:gvcJune 22, 2007 3:06:03 PMRespond ^
dwo.md: If you're an MD, then if you think about it, you know full well how many people are employed in an average doctor's office just to handle the government mandated paperwork today, don't you? And that's with far less government involvement than what's being proposed as a "solution". You think the cost and complexity will go DOWN? I strongly caution my children about speaking in absolutes, such as "Can't possibly happen", and if you've got children then I bet you do too. I strongly caution everyone not to convince yourself that "It couldn't possibly be worse", because it certainly could. BTW: We've already spent trillions in our decades old War on Drug Users, and ruined millions of lives and families in the bargain. And we're still losing.
Posted by:gvcJune 22, 2007 3:08:12 PMRespond ^
I hope the lobbyists blew chunks.
Posted by:Lacey S. CannonJune 22, 2007 3:09:01 PMRespond ^
It is the gatekeeper system of regulation that is driving up cost for not just health care - but a whole host of professional services. Most lower middle class families can't afford health care, legal services,tax preparation, accounting, real estate, or a number of other services. And - believe it or not - poor people actually pay more for comparable levels of service provided by protected professional classes. This includes utilities, banks, insurance, housing, and crime protection.
Posted by:JT BarrieJune 22, 2007 6:50:04 PMRespond ^
There's a cartoon I follow almost daily. It's called "on a claire day" and is at www.comics.com. For the last week Claire has had to listen to her father fuss at her for not having health insurance. Claire is a young 20 something who has few job skills and less money. It's a wonderful (and actually rather subtle) indictment of the American health care system.
Posted by:jonnijonesJune 22, 2007 8:18:19 PMRespond ^
Nobody was hurt? Not even the devil singing in bground or the 'the sticky finger 'posters..Americans fight/win to lose health car ..............and now they fight life to win life ? ..here is a recipe of a 'madpot''let water boil,even waiot to see it shimmer ..trim spinach leaves in it ,chop a few potatoes,ok! now look around for onions darlic aha! chop the radish,ooo peas,let em in babe! alright a chicken stock! what are you watching y face ,you? ADD TO FLAVOUR! PAY HEALTH BILL! ITS YOUR LIFE!
Posted by:Shahzada SherJune 22, 2007 9:23:24 PMRespond ^
Social Darwinism is the basic plank in Republican idiology. Outlaw the Repuglican party. They believe in legalizing murder on a corporate scale.
Posted by:Dutch LyleJune 23, 2007 6:33:01 AMRespond ^
I saw the handwriting on the wall when I first heard of the HMO's and the DRG's that were put in place back in the late 70's and early 80's--I knew then the healthcare system was in for the fight of it's life. I'm just sorry we didn't recognize this problem 25 years ago before the healthcare system became so devastatingly damaged. There's absolutely no excuse in a country as rich as ours and who spends more capital per patient (with less than optimal results)than any other country in the world to be in this abysmal state!!
Posted by:LindaJune 23, 2007 7:12:30 AMRespond ^
I cannot wait to see this film. Michael Moore's films are all well made, very informative, and very entertaining. Way to go Michael Moore in addressing such a hot issue and something that needs the attention of the American people and its "leaders".
Posted by:AmyJune 23, 2007 8:49:13 AMRespond ^
Darryl Issa is the biggest hypocrite in the Congress. His past history belies his phony actions that he displays as a proponent of a bi-partisan person, one has to observe him on any of the committees that he serves on to see that he is only a one sided individual and far from as a moderate that he poses .
Posted by:norman kaffeeJune 23, 2007 8:56:07 AMRespond ^
As it happens, I have just checked out of hospital today, after five weeks there. Everything possible was made by the staff to make my stay as comfortable as possible. Everything medically needed was immediately made available. Thousands like me suffering from serious, lengthy and incurable diseases are being taken care of in our country (France). You can be a CEO or a tramp,it does not matter in our health system: universal health care. And guess what? Our brand new president Sarkozy has as urgent goal, among other things, to copy your chimp, and let "free market" reign everywhere possible. People voted massively for him. I just can't understand how people can, knowingly, bring calamity on themselves. They were not satisfied with the so-called left so they voted this jerk in. Instead of staying home, or whatever. You see, when the people in your country voted massively for a second term with W. Bush, I just could not come to grips with it. The same here in France today. Democracy is fine, but very puzzling sometimes. boubker Metz, France
Posted by:boubkerJune 23, 2007 11:47:33 AMRespond ^
It's beyond amazing to me that the rethug party of thugs calls itself PRO-LIFE and PRO-FAMILY. And yet they are the most vicious opponents of universal health care which is a totally pro-life and pro-family issue. What a huge hypocrisy that is. And all the right wing fundamentalist catholics(I am catholic, but not their kind of catholic)who so totally opposed to health care for all. Absolutely amaaazing. It's almost unimaginable;no it is unimaginable. What a bunch of corrupt people.
Posted by:bob tJune 23, 2007 12:46:29 PMRespond ^
Thank you Michael Moore. The health insurance industry needs to go. They are making millions off of our ill health. UHC/USA now! Ed
Posted by:EdJune 23, 2007 2:48:07 PMRespond ^
I don't understand why anyone is surprised by the way things are today. It used to be that you went to the Doctor and you paid him/her for the service. Now you pay the insurance company who's only interest is "The Bottom Line". The profit is taken out before anything else. If you are unlucky enough to be on Medicaid or Medicare, you can't even choose your own doctor. And every 6 months or so the doctors pay is cut to save money for such pressing matters as painting fake bricks in the crosswalks or providing a new stadium at tax payers expense for some baseball or football team, where they raise the price so high ordinary people can't afford to go any more. Both the state and federal governments do it. Who else in this country takes a pay CUT every few months. If we could CUT congress pay every few months I bet they'd get some work done, or go home where they belong. You sure wouldn't see any more CAREER POLITICIANS because they wouldn't tolerate it. They'd run for the hills so fast you wouldn't even know they'd been there. The more middle men you have, the more often the price gets jacked up eventually to the point no one will be able to get anything, except for the extremely rich. And that's just the way they want it. I went to the emergency room 2 years ago and I was told if I hadn't gone, I wouldn't have lived another day. Then I had a worker for Social Security ask me "Why in the WORLD would you GO TO THE HOSPITAL IN THE FIRST PLACE when you KNEW you COULDN'T PAY FOR IT?". I got lucky though. The hospital forgave my entire bill as financial assistance. But one of the doctors sued me 3 days before Christmas. When I tried to make payment arrangements I was told they wouldn't accept anything less than half and the other half in 30 days. On the other side of THAT coin, is the doctor who drove me to the hospital the day before Thanksgiving, saw to it I was registered and given a room before going back to the rest of the waiting patients in his office and then picked me up on Thanksgiving Day, and drove me home with a stop at his office to pick up free samples because he knew I couldn't pay for the prescriptions. This is the kind of doctors we are losing because of the bureaucrats and their "Bottom Line".
Posted by:L. NasonJune 23, 2007 3:44:08 PMRespond ^
Helping all Americans achieve affordable health care - what a humanitarian concept!!
Posted by:Sharon DayJune 23, 2007 5:21:42 PMRespond ^
LAKE COUNTY DEMOCRATIC CLUB HEALTH CARE FINANCE SYSTEM REPORT June 9, 2007 Our fragmented health care financing system consists of for profit insurance corporations, not for profit health care insurance and delivery corporations, government administered health insurance (Medicare, Medicaid, the Veterans Administration and military health care systems), and various charitable organizations. (The Federal Employee Health Plan which is offered to members of Congress and all other Federal employees is similar to major corporation health plans in that it offers a variety of private insurance plans to the employees and members of Congress). There are three basic problems with the current health care finance system: 1. Coverage: 47 million Americans and at least 5 million Californians do not have health insurance. This is caused primarily by the high cost of health insurance. All or most other industrial nations cover nearly 100% of their citizens. 2. Outcomes: In spite of having the most advanced health care technologies, the U.S. ranks at or near the bottom of industrialized nations in overall health care outcomes. The poor health care outcome is caused primarily by the large number of uninsured Americans. It is also caused by restrictions in coverage by insurance corporations to hold down costs and by the high cost of the health care finance system. 3. Cost: There are several factors that drive up the cost of insurance; A. Administrative costs; For profit corporations are the largest providers (in numbers of insured) of health care insurance. Their administrative costs range from 18 to 23% or more of revenues. In comparison, Medicare administrative costs are 2 to 3% of revenues. The multiplicity of health care plans require that health care providers employ additional administrative staff to comply with the different requirements and forms of the different plans. B. Profits; Stock market pressures for short term exceptional profits drive up the cost of health care insurance corporations, delivery corporations, and manufactures of equipment, products and technologies. Many private non-corporate providers and suppliers also seek higher profits by increasing their prices. The quality of care and the universality of care are diminished and the cost of care is increased by the pressure for higher profits. C. Employer costs; Most employer based health insurance is purchased from for profit insurance corporations. The high and rising cost to employers of this insurance reduces the employer's price competition with foreign firms and domestic firms that do not provide health insurance.. Employers reduce or curtail their contributions to employee health care plans to reduce costs. Employees then seek other plans or become uninsured both of which increase the cost of health care insurance. D. Risk pool; The overall costs of health care for all participants in an insurance plan (the risk pool) are divided among the participants by actuary tables. The more participants there are in the plan, the lower the cost to each participant. The smaller the risk pool, the higher the cost to each participant. For profit , not for profit, and government administered health insurance plans divide the population into hundreds of risk pools at a higher cost to each participant than would be the case with fewer risk pools. In addition, for profit health care insurance corporations seek to include only healthy participants to contain costs and increase profits which raises the cost of insurance to less healthy participants and/or increases the number of uninsured who then rely on more expensive emergency room care. E. Overlapping coverage; Because few if any of the private for profit health care plans offer complete coverage, many participants enroll in more that one plan to get all the coverage they need. This includes high deductible plans for catastrophic events, high premium plans for preventative care, dental plans, vision plans, long term care plans, plans at work, sick pay plans, plans at school, plans included in automobile insurance (including uninsured motorist coverage), plans included in homeowners insurance, separate plans for each spouse, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans health care and military health care. Any family or even any person can easily find themselves in need of more than one plan to get all the coverage they need even though those plans may well overlap in other coverage areas. F. Legislation; Our fragmented health care finance system was created and is regulated by legislation. That legislation is full of inconsistencies and loopholes that allow fraud and abuse which increases costs. In addition, legislation allowing general and specific tax breaks and regulatory relief have increased corporate profits with no visible significant cost reductions for participants as exemplified by the Medicare Part D prescription insurance legislation which was written by the pharmaceutical lobby and has enriched the pharmaceutical and health care finance corporations. Additional legislation and regulation further complicates the fragmented system driving up the cost of administration. G. Economies of Scale: The multiplicity of health care insurance plans reduce the purchasing power of those corporations providing the plans for prescription drugs, equipment, devices, supplies and services that they pay for compared to fewer plans with more participants each. H. Economic Loss: The lack of universal health coverage and optimal health outcomes results in unnecessary lost work hours, reduced productivity and higher production costs than would be the case with a healthier work force. Our fragmented health care financing system was created piece by piece in response to particular problems and incentives. The assembled pieces are not well integrated with each other or with the overall system. There are at least several cost spirals within the system that drive up costs and drive down coverage and outcomes. Just two examples are: 1. The rising cost of employer based for profit health insurance causes more and more companies to reduce or eliminate their participation in employee health care insurance. This reduces the size of the risk pools and increases the cost of health care to the remaining employers in the risk pools which causes more employers to reduce or eliminate participation. 2. The rising cost of health insurance forces many people to go without insurance which increases the number of uninsured who then rely on more expensive emergency room service for all their medical care. That cost for emergency room care is then passed on to the remaining participants in the risk pools which forces still more people to go without insurance. The increase in the number of uninsured also reduces the size of the risk pool which increases the cost to the remaining participants in the pool which forces even more people to become uninsured. These and other cost spirals plus the other problems listed above are driving costs up and driving coverage and outcomes down. The basic problem lies in our very complicated and fragmented health care financing system. No corporation could function profitably if it was so disorganized and inefficient. Any further measures to repair specific problems in this system other than a unifying reorganization will only complicate, and possibly fragment it, further.
Posted by:James EvansJune 23, 2007 10:50:56 PMRespond ^
I live and work whithin a healthcare system (French)that with all it's imperfections is far better that the systems you describe This system is since the recent election of a rigth wing gov.t menaced to evolve towards a system like yours.Another big problem that is international is the hijacking of clinical and pharmacological research by corporate interests,which hold a tight control over statistical raw data, meaning that nearly 100% of medical research is nowadays submittet to "garbage in , garbage out " law
Posted by:joel oosterlinck M.D.June 23, 2007 11:37:46 PMRespond ^
I watched the premiere viewing of Sicko last night in Phoenix AZ. The crowd hissed at the Republicans, esp. Dubya. Standing ovation at the end. This movie has some real eyeopening information for us Americans.
Posted by:Ray VillanuevaJune 24, 2007 7:02:31 AMRespond ^
I'm 100% for universal health care. Unfortunately, what we have now is sickness care - and even with a universal plan, this will still be the norm until we stop thinking in terms of using drugs to control and mask symptons and start thinking in terms ofpreventive health care. This means more emphasis on good nutrution (especially in schools and hospitals!) and seeing that alternative health care (often cheaper and more effective in bringing real healing) is covered by insurance.
Posted by:SallyJune 24, 2007 8:37:01 AMRespond ^
i and others were awaiting transplant on the ninth floor at shands hospital in gainesville.. how sad to watch the uninsured and poverty stricken finally realize they were going to die from having no dough.
Posted by:bob from bithloJune 24, 2007 10:19:26 AMRespond ^
If this is a "Christian Country" as I repetedly hear all the time, why not do what Jesus wold do and heal the poor and the sick? Wake-up America!
Posted by:Don WalkerJune 24, 2007 1:05:45 PMRespond ^
11 lobbyests showed...
Posted by:Kimberly P.June 24, 2007 7:16:31 PMRespond ^
ALOHA, THE POLITICIANS IN BED WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY WILL SUFFER IMMENSLY WHEN SEEKING VOTES. OUR BLOGS WILL DESTROY YOU. EDWIN DOHERTY
Posted by:EDWIN DOHERTYJune 24, 2007 10:28:27 PMRespond ^
I'm NOT for the type of universal healthcare proposed and I'll explain why. Conventional/traditional/allopathic medicine will continue to have a monopoly in this country. Universal access to all modalities, Ayurveda, Homeopathy, Naturapathic, Wholistic, etc. is what is needed. Take away their monopoly and let me decide what's best for me and my family and then I will support Universal care.
Posted by:StephenJune 25, 2007 8:04:05 AMRespond ^
Don Walker wrote: "why not do what Jesus wold do and heal the poor and the sick?" When I think of all the biblical passages that describe how Jesus pressed for the government to provide services for people, I can't help think to myself: "Boy does Don Walker ever understand his bible..."
Posted by:gvcJune 25, 2007 1:16:36 PMRespond ^
Obviously steven, you understand that under a government provided and controlled healthcare system, we'll get exactly what the government decides is appropriate for us to have. Nothing more and nothing less. Apparently many are comfortable with the idea of putting their healthcare decisions entirely in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats. I've watched them conduct so many cluster-f***s in the past 40 years that there's simply no way I'll support giving those a-holes that much additional control over my life.
Posted by:gvcJune 25, 2007 1:20:47 PMRespond ^
I find it interesting the focus is health insurance, not health care. I wonder if this has to do with supporting insurance companies and hospitals rather than making sure all citizens have health care. We are paying for Iraqi's to have totally free health care, but I for one don't have any health care or insurance, this shows there is definitely something wrong with the system! Also the best health care/coverage around is what our elected officials have, if is not available to the rest of the citizens, these are the people who vote on the care/coverage available to the rest of us, another example of definitely something wrong with the system. Maybe is our elected officials had to have the same care/coverage we had, maybe they would find something better!
Posted by:SherryJune 25, 2007 4:36:56 PMRespond ^
Our health care is a disrace.Years ago , physicians, in order to be put on the staff of hospitals, rotated for a month at a time, and cared for all patients needing the doctor's particular specialty. The hospitals, non-profit organizations, were subsidized by government funding, grants, and local charitable donations. EVERYone was cared for. The insurance companies,banks, pharmaceuticals, and other for-profit businesses were not involved. The main cost of health care today is due to blood sucker industries. Government should run everything BUT with CHECKS and BALANCES. There are myriads of retired doctors and nurses who would welcome the opportunity of helping.
Posted by:SallyJune 28, 2007 8:51:45 AMRespond ^
Seems that the left, the right and the middle in this country are scared to be 'labeled',thus they don't want to sponsor 'socialism'-like healthcare. In compassionate democracy, everyone counts.
Posted by:tyeJune 28, 2007 1:37:10 PMRespond ^
The time is upon all of us as the latency period becomes a reality to millions of innocent people, entire families to suffer and die from something that began in 1963 and was knowingly allowed for over 40 years.This poisoning was done to millions of us and if you think there is a health and safety issue you haven't seen [deleted] because this deadly monster is still out their and is still being allowed to continue to kill innocent people/entire families.In Libby Montana,we learned the truth and our fate and yet this deadly fate was allowed to continue by the very ones who allowed this to happen.The EPA and this White house has knowingly allowed us, we the people to be poisoned and now the truth,latency is becoming known.Where did we as a people get off the wrong track? By trusting Govt for the people not Govt against the people as we have now learned the truth.Wake up people and stay away from Libby Mt.Pass this on, thank you
Posted by:Mike CrillJune 29, 2007 12:36:39 PMRespond ^
I saw Sicko this evening and hope that any and every American views this movie. To see our rich country depicted as third class with regard to health care is truly appalling and we must find ways of working together to make our legislators finally come up with a truly universal health care plan.
Posted by:Victoria EichnerJuly 4, 2007 7:44:26 PMRespond ^
Moore does not attribute our failed so-called health care system to HMOs, but to insurance in general. No insurance company wants to insure anyone who might get sick; they make their money by denying care, not by providing it. HMOs are merely among the worst offenders. In a government-financed system, there is no incentive to avoid sick people, since the very purpose of a "health care system" presumably is to provide people with health care. Moore shows how this is the case in countries with government-funded systems. But in the US, health care is paid for with private insurance, which has as its purpose (for for-profit companies) making money for shareholders. Even non-profits seek to have a surplus and must pay claims from what they take in. They too try to avoid insuring anyone who might have high claims. Clearly, the problem with health care in the US is that we use insurance as the payment mechanism, and this doesn't work and will never work.
Posted by:Theresa WelshJuly 7, 2007 11:58:51 AMRespond ^
Hey,the guys in the US,please come to China,the medication here is really cheap. you can get any medication in the drugstore or hospital,the price is not expensive as they in cuba. you needn't a medical care insurance,the low price is the great insurance of your health. China, a wonderful cheap life.
Posted by:CooperJanuary 27, 2008 3:03:21 AMRespond ^

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