MOTHER JONES BY E-MAIL

Whitman: EPA Knew 9/11 Contamination Put Workers, Residents at Risk

News: At a House hearing, the former EPA head defends her decision not to warn the public; rescue worker says she should have "stood on the pile and told us how bad it was."

June 27, 2007


TOOLS

EmailE-mail article
PrintPrint article




BACKTALK

E-mail the editor





Google


The "rules of the House of Representatives" prohibit audience members from hoisting signs and from disrupting proceedings with applause, anger, or any other kind of outburst. To judge from his admonition to the crowd at the end of his opening statement, it seems clear that Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), chair of the judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, civil rights, and civil liberties, suspected that Monday's proceedings might inflame emotions.

He was correct.

The hall was filled to capacity, largely with people—firefighters, police officers, and others—whose efforts atop the rubble of the World Trade Center ultimately devastated their health. Four attendees sitting near the back of the room tried to hold up pictures of relatives who had succumbed to their illnesses, but the rules prohibited even that gesture.

They had come to hear Christine Todd Whitman, former head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), explain to the committee why city employees and volunteers were allowed to work amid the devastation without respirators, and why area residents were welcomed back into Lower Manhattan when evidence strongly indicated that harmful toxins still lingered both in the air and in the piles of dust and debris that had blown into apartments and businesses away from ground zero.

For nearly an hour, not a single Republican Congressman was present at the hearing, which was finally joined by ranking member Trent Franks (Ariz.) and, later, by Rep. Steve King (Iowa). Franks blamed the low turnout on the hearing's odd timing—a Monday afternoon.

The committee's inquiries focused on two main issues. Members quizzed Whitman about the EPA's efforts to inform volunteers and the public about the environmental hazard in the vicinity of the disaster site. Scientists had determined—and had informed EPA officials—that the air quality on the debris pile was harmful, and that dust from the site contained dangerous levels of asbestos and other carcinogens. But those findings were not reflected in the statements Whitman and other officials made at the time; instead, they reassured residents that the air in the neighborhood was safe, and that dust could be cleaned with wet wipes and HEPA-filtered vacuums.

Those statements were vetted by the White House (through the National Security Council), whose explicit interest was to allow commerce and investment to continue in and around Wall Street. At the hearing, Whitman downplayed the significance of a call she had received from a Bush economic adviser who was seeking to reopen the stock market in short order. "We weren't going to let the terrorists win," she noted, prompting the second of several illicit uproars from the audience, despite Nadler's order. She reiterated her contention that the area outside the rubble pile—enclosed by a so-called "green line"—was safe for inhabitants.

In response, Rep. Nadler suggested that since the law requires asbestos to be disposed of professionally, and that since the Occupational Safety and Health Administration had already concluded that dust in the area contained asbestos, implying that residents could safely dispose of that dust themselves might have been a "crime." Whitman ultimately did recommend the use of professional cleaners—in late October, a month and a half after the attacks.

The other point of contention concerned the workers themselves. Few of them were provided with the shoulder-borne respirators that would have protected them from asbestos, pulverized concrete and other contaminants.

John Henshaw, who headed OSHA at the time, testified that his office could not compel rescue workers in Manhattan to wear respirators because they were city employees—police officers and firefighters under the purview of Mayor Rudy Giuliani's office, which had not mandated respirators. According to experts at Mt. Sinai Medical Center, today nearly three-quarters of 9/11 first responders have contracted some kind of illness, usually respiratory and often chronic.

At one point, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) suggested that Whitman, who claims she knew how deadly the inhalants were, could have wrested control of the clean-up effort from the city and insisted that all workers use respirators, as was the standard at the Pentagon. Whitman struggled to address the point, suggesting that she wasn't then certain that she had a legal basis for such a drastic step. She added that she didn't believe the public would have accepted such an incursion from the federal government.

Outside the hearing room, I spoke with several members of the World Trade Center Rescuers Foundation; officers, firefighters, and EMTs who say they have been forced to retire by debilitating illnesses caused by their work on the pile. None was impressed with Whitman's performance. Retired Lieutenant Bill Gleason of the New York Fire Department, thin and pale, told me he suffers from hyper-reactive airway disorder. He said he takes $7,000 worth of medication every month and has had seven surgeries—including on his sinuses, lungs, and appendix—since 2002. Detective Michael Valentine, who left the pile in early 2002 and was stationed in neighborhood precincts for three years thereafter, suffers from lymphatic tumors. Both men are under 50, and both claimed that, contrary to the testimony they'd just listened to, working with a full respirator would have been no trouble had they known just what was in the air. Valentine said he never saw an EPA representative during four months at the site, nor was he asked to take preventive measures.

"She blamed the victim," said Gleason. "If she had stood on the pile and told us how bad it was, she could have saved tens of thousands." Instead, Whitman—who emphasized at the hearing that in a war-like situation it was important "to speak with one voice"—toed the administration's, and Giuliani's, line. As a result, argued Suzanne Mattei, a former New York City Sierra Club executive present at the hearing, the EPA "encouraged people to ignore their own common sense. The air looked bad and smelled bad. Using common sense, many people would have guessed that the air was unsafe for themselves and their children.... The sad irony is that if the EPA had said nothing at all, the public would probably have been better off."

The Media Consortium is a network of progressive media organizations including Mother Jones.



 

Post a Comment

Your Name: 

Your Comment: 
 
Please press "Submit" only once to avoid double-posting.
All HTML formatting is removed from comments.
Read the Mother Jones community rules here.

Comments:

Todd-Whitman has always been an opportunistic hypocrite, as her record for rolling back needful environmental regulations demonstrates. Now we can add fiendishly murderous traitor and unconscionable liar to the list of her distinguished career accomplishments. That she had the temerity to use her own son's being in WTC-7 in a vain attempt at getting the public to see her side of the event details of her very active participation in what is nothing more than an inside job meant to guarantee Dumya a war presidency makes her even more fit for hell's damnation. None of the rescue animals who served during that disaster are alive. Too many people who have not died are certainly sick enough to die, and soon will die. And, it's all so she and rotten Rudy could bolster the image of the newly bitten Big Apple. I know, heaven forbid tourism should dare FAULTER because of a little loss of life, the entire galaxy having just witnessed the CONTROLLED DEMOLITION of the WTC. For Todd-Whitman to have declared Ground Zero to be so safe that soon after demolition was beyond foolhearty wishful thinking to being premeditated MURDER. Any fifth grader with a remote interest in science knew that every elemental component of two 1000+ floor human occupied sky scrapers of the WTC had just been finely particulated and lethally dispersed into a concentrated area at lethal levels of toxicity. What Todd-Whitman and Rotten Rudi should have done was initiate long-term evacuation and relocation of every Human Being within a huge radius around Ground Zero for months until after the sub-level magma cooled and the dust settled. Even at that, resolute determination of area safety would have still been seriously debatable. As it is, New York City humanity is still being traumatically horrified by the occassional finding of human remains and plagued by 9/11 related health issues that will sicken and kill New Yorkers for generations to come. It was bad enough that Rudy and Company failed to evacuate that center once the first plane hit the WTC. People died, obeying orders to stay inside, lulled into a false sense of security that local EMS had the event under control. Ironically, Rotten Rudy survived the demolition, earning him the reputation as being America's Mayor, now known for having used duress to goad Todd-Whitman into initiating an immediate return to service of his City. But, for Todd-Whitman to subsequently cave in to Rudy's tyranny, and tell America that the arrid, toxic, and still smoldering Ground Zero was now safe for human occupancy and habitation with minimum to no hazard protection is an offense that ought to qualify her and Rotten Rudi both for the DEATH PENALTY.
Posted by:PennyJune 27, 2007 10:47:46 AMRespond ^
Although we have heard some of this before , to hear it from such a high-ranking official is nothing short of criminal. Attributing the lack of enforcement of preventative measures at Ground Zero and the surrounding area in the interest of capitalism ("We weren't going to let the terrorists win,") raises a disturbing question: Would the climate of fear that this administration has fostered on the American public ever have existed if another terrorist attack would create an economic boom? I think not.
Posted by:John WolforthJune 27, 2007 10:48:29 AMRespond ^
Towards noon on 9-12-01, Westfield, NJ, where I reside, was enveloped in a stinking cloud of smoke from the WTC site. In the days following 9-11 I placed phone calls to the EPA and/or the NJ Department of Environmental Protection (I can't remember whether one or both), asking each time to speak with knowledgeable individuals. I inquired what the nature was of air samples collected in New Jersey after 9-11. Each time I was assured there was no difference, quantitatively or qualitatively, in the particulates being collected from what obtained before the terror attack. I knew this had to be untrue and that a big coverup was under way. (What with a Republican administration in place in Washington, the needs of big business would surely outweigh health issues.) Unfortunately most people are not well educated and most trust everything the government puts out. So when Ms. Whitman made her infamous utterances, she caused intentional harm.
Posted by:Ferdinand Gajewski PhDJune 27, 2007 12:43:22 PMRespond ^
Whitman is just another example of the Republican Bush Administration failures!! AMERICA! IMPEACH! THEM ALL! Arrest Whitman, Cheney, Gonzales, Bush, and Co. for lies, deceit, unauthorized wire tap, torture! No free ride! DO IT NOW!!!!!!!
Posted by:jOHN cOPELANDJune 27, 2007 1:53:18 PMRespond ^
Everything that I would have said has already been said here. I echo all of the posts. Well said.
Posted by:Barbara BregerJune 27, 2007 2:27:37 PMRespond ^
Why aren't Whitman and Giuliani being prosecuted for (at least) manslaughter? And now this 'giant' of a man wants to be president. What a country we've become.
Posted by:KenJune 27, 2007 2:38:09 PMRespond ^
It is with utter revolsion that I read this story. A child could have assessed the area around Ground Zero as being a toxic environment. Why is it that your country, so magnificent in so many ways, sits back and allows government to repeatedly subject you to this sort of carnage in the name of the mighty dollar. My heart goes out to all of those suffering as a result of their galant efforts in the weeks following 9/11. All levels of your government should be held accountable by the American people at the ballot box and in the courts. good luck to you all.
Posted by:Cath Phillips AustraliaJune 27, 2007 5:56:37 PMRespond ^
Once again, politics, and the business interests of Wall Street trump the lives of the courageous, heroic first responders and volunteers. Government continues to demonstrate again and again,(but we don't get it) its incompetence, its indifference to human suffering. The behavior of those entrusted with safeguarding our lives and our health acted with calluse disregard for all - the residents of the area, the children,the families of the volunteers and first responders. Too bad first responders have a conscience and a bg heart. That conscience led them to sacrifice their lives, health and well being for the sake of others They did their job. Too bad the government is always late in doing theirs - if they do it at all. Shame on Pres. Bush. Shame on former Mayor Giuliani. Shame on former Governor Whitman. Shame on anyone responsible for such utterly stupid decision-making that compromised the health of so many. Peace.
Posted by:Barbara - Oakland, CAJune 27, 2007 6:08:24 PMRespond ^
What do you really expect from Big govt' ?
Posted by:tom kingJune 27, 2007 7:05:56 PMRespond ^
I also echo all of the above posts. I would like to add one thing though. It was the genius Mr. Rudy Giuliani who is now running to be president of the United States who thought that the Twin Towers would be a good place to put the office of emergency management. What the hell was he thinking????? Recently I heard Mr. giuliani blaming one of his staff members for this idiotic move on the news, but we all know that he was responsible for this. DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS MAN.
Posted by:AntChaosRJune 28, 2007 5:01:10 AMRespond ^
as an 9/11 responder & advocate & founder of the fealgood foundation, i can not believe no one is in jail or has been investigated for their crimes against humanity.Mrs Whitman should be in jail for manslaughter and America and new yorkers we need to get our government back working for us,and make them afraid of us.not us afraid of them.show them numbers,and we will win.john feal
Posted by:john fealJune 28, 2007 5:23:19 AMRespond ^
Whitman testified that all the EPA scientists said the air (as opposed to the DUST, as if the dust were frozen in stone) was safe. WHO WERE THESE EPA SCIENTISTS? We know about the Republican War on Science, so the question is, was the EPA packed with WH-approved, loyal bushie, "scientists?" How many were from Liberty College, etc.? We need to see documentation of the EPA assessments. Andy Card also got into the act here, but exactly how involved the White House was is unsettled.
Posted by:GenebJune 28, 2007 7:38:41 AMRespond ^
Has anyone looked into the Statute of Limitations on this? Seems to me Whitman AND Guilliani can be held accountable in a court of law for criminal neglect regarding standard safety procedures and for the Wrongful Death of anyone who died as the result of exposure to asbestos or other deadly materials.
Posted by:PatAJune 28, 2007 10:53:52 AMRespond ^
This was a crime that was committed. It should be treated as a crime. This witholding of information or just as bad the EPA statements that were issued left many with mis-information which led directly to their illnesses. A lawsuit is in order for a full correction of this wrong. Todd-Whitman is guilty of daving in to Dumya's ambitions to be a war president.
Posted by:James E. MathenyJune 28, 2007 3:11:18 PMRespond ^
This is interesting
Posted by:Cynthia JoffrionJune 28, 2007 8:34:59 PMRespond ^
This is the kind of deliberate, criminal negligence the Bush administration has engaged in from day one. GWB had to be aware of this at the time, and he let it happen anyway. New 9.11 investigation please.
Posted by:NYDAJune 29, 2007 12:03:22 AMRespond ^
Here's what I sent to the EPA directed to Todd Whitman - word for word - and I have said as much in public to their faces, and they cannot cannot do a darn thing about it because it is TRUE, and we have EVIDENCE. "You lying bitch Whitman - you paid to have your downtown EPA offices SEALED from the outside air, and you lied - sucking GWB's &*^! the entire way... turn back time and I'd pray your sorry butt got exchanged for an innocent who died that day, your sorry butt should have been on top of the towers that day, because you personally caused more 9/11 deaths than Osama Bin Laden and his Washington DC mobsters... and you were so told to your face in November 2001. You and your witchy EPA sidekick KATHLEEN CALLAHAN, who LIED in the Senate Hearings in November 2001, both of you Bitch women from hell, you DESERVE to die exactly like the rest of those 9/11 victims whose deaths YOU PERSONALLY sealed by refusing to properly deal with the poisoned air. So shut up Bitch, crawl into the nearest gutter where you belong. Were there a shred of justice in this country you'd be rotting in Gitmo for terrorism against Americans - as heinous as the actual attacks were themselves. And you will one day rot in prison you Bitch. On my watch. And you better PRAY I don't find you in a dark alley because I have a bag of 2001 vintage WTC toxic dust with your name on it. Of course, if there was nothing wrong with the air then this is not a threat is it now.
Posted by:WTCDust VictimJune 29, 2007 11:55:20 AMRespond ^
As for the PROOF AND EVIDENCE that there was CONSPIRACY THAT INVOLVED THE WHITE HOUSE AND CHRISTINE TODD-WHITMAN. Whitman was LYING - here is part of that proof, and he's not the only source of proof that should send that satanic degenerate bitch Whitman and her ghoulish boss onto death row where they belong. But where are the cops for this? Who you gonna call? No one. It's high time we the people rise up against these crimes against the people. BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION. ... from Cahill's reports: "... the press release we prepared for the ACS national meeting, New York, 9/10/2003. It was at this meeting that we presented the materials in the 2nd article. This ended up on George Bush’s desk 2 days later with a yellow sticky on it saying (I am told) “See what UC is doing to us”. George “had a cow” (2 different sources confirm this) and leaned on my DOE colleagues, and then on my Chancellor, then on me (with no effect except my annoyance since as an Emeritus Professor, I am pretty much untouchable)...."
Posted by:WTCDust VictimJune 29, 2007 12:07:23 PMRespond ^
Let this be a wake up call to everyone out their that this Govt has continued to lie to all of us effected by asbestos.That asbestos that has/is killing alot of you came from Libby Montana.And in 1999 we in Libby learned the truth as to why we are sick and dying from not being told the truth.This deadly exposure should of ended in 1999 but it did not and innocent people/families have continued to move to Libby Mt being told Libby is a safe place to live and raise a family.This is a deadly lie and thanks to David Newman and Nina Lavin testimony against EPA and this murderous Bush administration.We all had better wake up and look around to what is being allowed to be done to you and I.Even after 1999 these lies have continued to kill innocent people/families and yes do unto others as they do it to you and that is ust what we all need to do is bend them over then shoot them.All of them....Wait till Libby hits the news as the beginning of the WR Grace holocaust that was knowingly allowed to kill millions.Who the hell is the terrorists here? Wake up people.
Posted by:Mike CrillJune 29, 2007 12:07:52 PMRespond ^
Look up Libby Mike Crill as one of those who have been lied to that is killing me and most of my family.This war needs to be against them who allow this to happen to us.And our children.This bastard Bush and Co. have really destroyed this country and we the sheeple have watched this and if votes don't change this assult against man kind in 2008,and now then a revolution is needed.Don't you people feel the same.This has to end for the sake of those we are leaving behind.OUR KIDS and theirs.This is so crazy.Keep your powder dry folks.Thanks
Posted by:Mike CrillJune 29, 2007 12:18:31 PMRespond ^
Analysis of Aerosols from the World Trade Center Collapse Site, New York, October 2 to October 30, 2001 Thomas A. Cahill, Steven S. Cliff, Kevin D. Perry1, Michael Jimenez-Cruz, Graham Bench2, Patrick Grant 2, Dawn Ueda2, James F. Shackelford3, Michael Dunlap3, Michael Meier3, Peter B. Kelly4, Sarah Riddle4, Jodye Selco 4,5,* and Robert Leifer6 DELTA Group, Department of Applied Science, University of California, Davis 95616; 1Department of Meteorology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT, 2Center for Accelerator Mass Spectrometry, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA, 4Department of Chemical Engineering and Materials Science, UC Davis, 5Department of Chemistry, UC Davis, 5 Redlands University, Redlands, CA, 6Environmental Measurement Laboratory (EML), Department of Energy, New York, NY, Abstract The collapse of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings # 2 (South Tower), #1 (North Tower) and #7 created an enormous collapse pile which emitted intense plumes of acrid smoke and dust until roughly mid-December, when the last spontaneous surface fire occurred. We collected particles by size (8 modes, ≈ 12 to 0.09 micrometers diameter) and time (typical resolution of 1 to 3 hours) from October 2 until late December at the EML 201 Varick Street site roughly 1.8 km NNE of the collapse site and 50 m above ground level. Here we show some of the 70,000 mass and elemental data from the time period October 2 through October 30. ------ Let's select a few items from JUST THIS report: "There also appears to be some organic acid present in the samples; this is indicated by the signal at 45 amu in the TOF/MS spectra which corresponds to CO2H- fragment. The presence of hydrocarbons functionalized by heteroatoms is worrisome. The toxicity of these compounds is higher than the toxicity of the PAH compounds themselves. It should be noted, without observing the parent peak ions, this method is unable to determine how these hydrocarbons are functionalized." Well, damn functionalized hyrdocarbons are one of 900 contaminants identified - one more toxic than the next - more toxic than the PAH's ... "The levels of mass and several of the very fine components were the highest we have recorded in a variety of studies, including on the ground in the oil fields of Kuwait, June 1991" You ghoul-face WHITMAN - did you know the GULF WAR VETERANS came to our aid because we seemed to have what they had, ONLY WORSE? WHAT THE TALIBAN (whoever they are) STARTED ON 9/11, YOU TODD-WHITMAN HELPED FINISH. YOU BITCH.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 29, 2007 12:26:05 PMRespond ^
YOU WANT MORE EVIDENCE, HERE MORE EVIDENCE THAT TODD-WHITMAN IS A SATANIC DEGENERATE BITCH: "Very fine silicon particles, similar to those recently seen near coal fired power plants, were a major component, about 10%, and may be derived either from similar high temperature processes or the formation of volatile halosilanes such as SiCl4. Due to the combination of relatively high mass and smaller than usual size, the number and surface concentration are unusually high both absolutely and on a per μg of mass basis. Since these particles are poorly soluble in lung fluids, they will likely have long retention times in the lung and most likely be cleared through macrophage ingestion and transport through the blood stream, although the data are available only for the even smaller ultra-fine particles (EPA 1996). .... Very fine metals were routinely seen, but while most were at low concentrations, some metals (V, Ni, Cu, As, Se, Br and Hg) occurred at unprecedented levels in the very fine size range." "UNPRECEDENTED" was later characterized by DR. CAHILL as so fine it was NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF SCIENCE and would blow through all human defenses... OKAY TODD WHITMAN, BITCH WOMAN FROM HELL IS TOO NICE A TERM FOR YOU. AND I HOPE YOU AND YOUR SATANIC STAFF, AND DICK CHENEY AND GEORGE BUSH ARE READING JUST THIS - PUT YOUR EAVESDROPPING TO WORK WILL YA - I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU HAVE UNLEASHED IS UNSTOPPABLE...AND IT AINT'S JUST ME. V = VANADIUM. TOXICITY? It f%^$'s the thyroid. It's a neurotoxin. Ni= NICKEL. TOXICITY? Lung cancer is one. It's a neurotoxin. Cu = COPPER. TOXICITY? Neurotoxin As = ARSENIC. TOXICITY? notoriously poisonous metalloid... Se = SELENIUM. TOXICITY? Hair loss, skin rashes, nausea Br = BROMINE. TOXICITY? irritative skin rashes; eye, nose, and throat Irritation; bronchospasm... cancers... Hg = MERCURY. TOXICITY? Neurotoxin, Multiple Cancers. Chaill's little expose just scratched the toxic 9/11 WTC toxic surface. None of the synergistic effects of multiple super-toxins have been studied. Why? One answer: SATANIC DEGENERATE BITCH WOMAN FROM HELL CHRISTINE TODD WHITMAN.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 29, 2007 12:44:31 PMRespond ^
Where the hell IS that degenerate TODD WHITMAN? Where is she HIDING? She needs to hear this evidence in PERSON from me and others she's sentence to death - and hopefully while she is hearing it she will be breathing from a bag of 2001 vintage WTC dust positioned over her ugly being. She needs to hear from all the other WTC victims - to her face. She doesn't have the guts, she doesn't have the brains, her value to the White House and her biggest political asset is her large mouth which she wraps around the Bush's DICK. Hope she chokes on it.
Posted by:WTCDust VictimJune 29, 2007 12:50:48 PMRespond ^
TODD WHITMANS PRONOUNCEMENT DIDN'T JUST "MAKE" RESIDENT'S GO AGAINST THEIR COMMON SENSE, AS MATTEI SAID. THAT WAS THE LEAST OF IT SINCE SO MANY WERE ALREADY DESPERATELY SICK FOR GODSAKES. IT ALLOWED THE CONSORTIUM OF RACKETERRING DOWNTOWN NEW YORK LANDLORDS AND THEIR LAWYERS UNTOUCHABLE WHEN RESIDENTS TRIED TO GET OUT OF THEIR LEASES. CHECK OUT ALL THE LANDLORD TENANT CASES WHERE SICK RESIDENT GOT FURTHER SCREWED TRYING TO ESCAPE THE TOXIC FUMES BY LEGALLY LEAVING THEIR HOUSES. WHATEVER LITTLE DIGNITY THEY HAD LEFT WAS GONE WHEN THEY LANDLORDS LATER LOWERED RENTS AND THE REST OF THE IGNORANT MASSES POURED IN. AND THE RESIDENTS WHO HAD NOT CHOICE HAD TO FIGHT WITH THE GODDAMN EPA FOR 9 MONTHS BEFORE THEY WOULD AGREE TO CLEAN THE APTS. WHICH TOOK PLACE YEARS LATER AND DIDN'T CORRECT ANYTHING. TENANT COMPLAINTS TO NYC DEPT OF BUILDINGS AND THE HEALTH DEPT. WERE ALL COVERED UP. LAWSUITS MYSTERIOUSLY "WENT AWAY" WHEN A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSORTIUM OF 9/11 LAWYERS "HELPING" THE RESIDENTS, HELPED THEMSELVES TO OUR 9/11 MONEYS INSTEAD. "Trade Center debris pile was a chemical factory, says new study" "The fuming World Trade Center debris pile released unheard-of amounts of the most harmful air pollutants for weeks after Sept. 11, 2001, says a new study by the UC Davis air-quality experts who were the first to report poisonous air at the site. The conditions would have been "terribly dangerous" [is this too strong?] for people working at Ground Zero without respirators and slightly less so for those working or living in adjacent buildings, said the study's lead author, Thomas Cahill, a UC Davis professor emeritus of physics and atmospheric science. "Now that we have a model of how the debris pile worked, it gives us a much better idea of what the people working on and near the pile were actually breathing," Cahill said. "Our first report was based on particles that we collected one mile away. This report gives a reasonable estimate of what was actually present at Ground Zero." "The debris pile acted like a chemical factory. It cooked together the components of the buildings and their contents and gave off gases of very toxic metals, acids and organics for [number] weeks." [check this whole quote] Cahill, an international authority on the constituents and transport of airborne particles, will summarize the new study on Sept. 10 at the national meeting of the American Chemical Society, being held this year in New York City. Cahill heads the UC Davis DELTA Group (for Detection and Evaluation of Long-range Transport of Aerosols), a collaborative association of scientists at several universities and national laboratories. The DELTA Group has made detailed studies of small airborne particles, called aerosols, from the trade-center collapse, 1991 Gulf War oil fires, volcanic eruptions and global dust storms. The new study reinforces and extends conclusions that DELTA Group reached in February 2002 in what is still the most thorough analysis [check] of the dust and smoke blown through lower Manhattan after the trade center collapse. In the 2002 report, DELTA researchers described their analysis of air samples collected Oct. 2-30, 2001, on a rooftop at 201 Varick St., one mile north-northeast of the trade center complex. They detailed very high levels of very fine airborne particles -- particles that pre-Sept. 11 studies had showed could raise a person's risk of [heart attacks? other?]. That analysis has been accepted for publication in the peer-reviewed journal Aerosol Science and Technology. Now the researchers have added analyses of samples collected through [date] and constructed a timeline with physical and chemical explanations for the results. When the trade center towers burned and collapsed, tons of concrete, glass, furniture, carpets, insulation, computers and paper were reduced to their constituent elements of silicon, carbon, chlorine, iron, lead and so on. In the hot debris pile, the elements combined, then escaped as gases. In those gases, Cahill identified four pollutants that other scientists have deemed most dangerous to human health. They are: -- Fine [delete "fine" here, confused with very fine and ultrafine?] metals such as lead [check], iron, copper and zinc, which interfere with lung chemistry; -- Acids, which attack lung cells directly; -- Very fine, undissolvable particles that travel through the lungs to the bloodstream and heart. -- High-temperature organic matter, which [does what bad thing]. The very fine particles were present in the highest amounts ever recorded, Cahill said. "Of 7,000 measurements scientists have made of air pollution throughout the world, this is the highest concentration of very fine particles ever seen." When Ground Zero air was compared with other historic pollution measurements, it was found to contain 15 times the vanadium, 4 times the nickel, 3 times the sulphur and 30 percent more silicon. Cahill will report the new findings to the chemical society members on Sept. 10 in a special symposium on the trade center. The presentation is titled "Very fine particles from the WTC collapse piles: anaerobic incineration?" It is scheduled for 9:35 a.m. in Javits Convention Center, Room 1A22. A news conference will follow the symposium at noon. [Tom attending?] The American Chemical Society is the world's largest scientific society. Nine thousand people are expected to attend the Sept. 7-11 conference. Cahill's co-authors on the new study are: UC Davis assistant research engineer Steve Cliff; Kevin Perry, assistant professor of meteorology at the University of Utah, Salt Lake City; Graham Bench, project investigator at the Center for Accelerator Mass Spectroscopy, U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; and Robert Leifer, DOE Environmental Measurement Laboratory, New York. [any other credit due?] [funded by whom?] More information: -- American Chemical Society: http://www.chemistry.org -- Aerosol Science & Technology, the journal of the American Association of Aerosol Research: http://www.aaar.org -- February 2002 news release, "Trade Center Air Held Unprecedented Amounts of Very Fine Particles, Silicon, Sulfates, Metals, Say UC Davis Scientists": http://www-news.ucdavis.edu/search/printable_news.lasso?id=6006 -- September 2002 news release, "New Study of Ground Zero Air Shows Indoor Spaces Can Be Cleaned": http://www-news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=6172
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 29, 2007 1:03:07 PMRespond ^
Message to Whitman - you open your ugly stinking trap again about WTC dust, and the rest of the evidence to impeach you - courtesy your own EPA employees will be coming out. And no one's heard these tidbits yet either. Except you. Make sure your staff pays close attention to thesmokinggun website cuz that's the day you want to have your bags packed for the UAE. Don't even try for Mexico, they know what to do with "people" like you down there.
Posted by:IMPEACH WHITMANJune 29, 2007 1:08:22 PMRespond ^
DEPLETED URANIUM AT WTC SITE... WORLD TRADE CENTER AIR STUDIES: Dr. Thomas Cahill, Emeritus Professor of Physics and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of California at Davis, conducted an independent study of the air around Ground Zero at the World Trade Center after the 9/11 disaster13. Using very sophisticated monitoring instruments14 which detect very fine and ultra fine particles, Cahill and his group monitored the smoldering pile at the WTC for 5 months following the disaster from one mile north of the center. They measured concentrations of particles in six size ranges from 2.5 microns to 0.09 microns13. They reported the highest concentrations of very fine particles of metals ever reported in the US13, and unprecedented numbers of very fine and super fine particles13. This air monitoring study of the WTC provided new information about very fine and superfine particles which have rarely been studied. Burning metals and other materials at high temperatures generate very large amounts of very small particles. For this reason depleted uranium which has burned is particularly hazardous. The EPA has verified that depleted uranium was in the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 18,19 and that the crash site was contaminated. Residents of New York City detected radiation on hand held geiger counters at the WTC site. The EPA not only failed to protect emergency response personnel at both sites, but did not report or measure13 concentrations of very fine particles at any of the 9/11 plane crash locations. These are the most hazardous to health, and many personnel who worked at the crash sites are now very ill. I have a bag of the "safe" WTC dust waiting to sprinkle over the lying sluts at the EPA and her pimps at the White House. Left for them to wonder and worry about: have I split the bag and have I stored it in safety deposit boxes in banks around the White House, on street corners of the residences of every single person who was invested with the power to stop the coverup and who lied about it. Whatcha gonna do when the WTC dust comes for YOU.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 29, 2007 5:57:23 PMRespond ^
This is unconscionable. Everyone, including Bush, Cheney, Whitman, Giulianni ought to be brought to justice. They should go to jail, and perhaps be given asbestos to breathe. Bush wanted the stock exchange to stay open indeed. Murderers!
Posted by:Pat GetzJune 29, 2007 8:52:53 PMRespond ^
Christine Whitman testified that scientists told her the air around the World Trade Center was safe. It is possible that the scientists lied, i.e., deliberately made false statements to the EPA administration in order to advance their careers under what they felt was pressure from the government. Sadly, scientists lied in the past. The most egregious example is the testimony of tobacco scientists that smoking is harmless. These lies, made to advance the scientists' careers, caused large numbers of horrible deaths and diseases. Doctors frequently lie, such as recommending unnecessary surgery, in order to advance their careers. Recently, scientists are lying about the cause of global warming, falsely stating that it is due to carbon dioxide. This is part of international efforts to weaken the American economy. The truth is that the current warming is due to cycles in the solar wind (particles emitted from the sun and reaching the earth). Instead of reducing power generation (Kyoto), we must increase power generation so that we can have more air conditioning. What citizens must do is to have a minimum understanding of science, do some investigation of the various claims, and try to satisfy themselves of the logic and validity of the statements. We must ask ourselves, "Do I agree with the logic? What evidence and historical validations do the scientists bring?" When we shop for food, we examine the food that it should not be spoiled or outdated. We do not simply trust the management. When we hear scientific statements, we must examine them ourselves, and not trust the experts. One reason scientists are able to get away with lying to the public is because our schools are failing to properly teach science. For example, schools generally do not teach the revolutionary scientific concepts of the 20th century. Personally, I blame the universities for not taking a much more active role in helping teachers think and learn, in order to inspire the next generation. We need to reorganize our educational setup, so that universities are more involved with secondary education. Thank you very much.
Posted by:Dr. Sanford AranoffJune 30, 2007 8:12:52 AMRespond ^
"IT'S POSSIBLE SCIENTISTS LIED". Jezuz Christ can't you people read? Or do you just read what HELPS KEEP YOUR heads in the sand? HER SCIENTISTS DID NOT lie - TODD WHITMAN was REPEATEDLY informed by HER OWN EPA STAFF - WHISTLEBLOWERS - OF THE REAL RESULTS, AND THE RESULTS WERE SQUASHED, HIDDEN, COVERED UP. SOME EPA STAFFERS SNUCK THEM OUT TO THE RESIDENTS and OTHER LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND THESE WERE PRESENTED, THERE ARE EVEN PRESS REPORTS ABOUT THIS - including the fact that - THE ENTIRE EPA BUILDING WAS SEALED AGAINST THE SUPPOSEDLY SAFE WTC DUST. SANFORD ARANOFF, STOP PROTECTING TERRORISTS
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 30, 2007 1:42:32 PMRespond ^
You want to use logic to make a case, first get some facts under your belt - try wrapping your single braincell around this ARANOFF: GEORGE W. BUSH when told of the UC DAVIS REPORT "had a cow" and TRIED TO GET THE ENTIRE REPORT SQUASHED AND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM SHUT DOWN AND TENURED PROFESSORS FIRED. ARANOFF, THAT'S FACT AND YOU ARE A TWIT IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 9/11/2001.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJune 30, 2007 1:45:55 PMRespond ^
THIS ONE IS FOR THE NEWLY WED COUPLE IN BATTERY PARK CITY AT THE TIME OF 9/11 - SHE WAS 8 MONTHS PREGNANT AND THE LANDLORD REFUSED TO LET THEM OUT OF HER LEASE - DESPITE THE DEBRIS AND THE STENCH AND THE BAD AIR - THEY HAD TO PAY $11,000 TO EXIT THE LEASE AND NEVER GOT IT BACK. AFTER SURVIVING SOMETHING LIKE 9/11 YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GO BACK THERE AND FIGHT - AND I HOPE THE REST OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S ABOUT NEVER HAVE TO FIND OUT.
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 1:54:49 PMRespond ^
This one if for the Hispanic Window Cleaner, 26 years old, who had diabetes, worked out, was an athlete, was assigned to clean the Chase Building third week of September 2001, and in 4 weeks DIED. You didn't deserve to not be counted. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE WITHOUT PROTECTION LIKE TO TOLD YOU. Murder 1 for TODD WHITMAN.
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 1:56:49 PMRespond ^
WHY DID THE EDITORS OF UPI THREATEN TO FIRE ALEX CUKAN IF SHE TRIED TO POST MORE STORIES ABOUT THE WTC DUST AND SICK RESIDENTS?
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 1:58:52 PMRespond ^
Who threw a chair in the evening meeting with Roger Hayes of the CDC when he told residents in October 2001 that no agency was there to help the residents get medical help, they were there to study us - our sicknesses and deaths - and what the bloody hell were the residents getting sick from if it wasn't the air. EPA and DOH/CDC you can't have it both ways. WHICH 22 YEAR OLD MALE LOWER MANHATTAN RESIDENT HAD TO BE CARTED FROM THE MEETING TO A HOSPITAL DUE TO THE FACT HE COULDN'T BREATHE?
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 2:02:52 PMRespond ^
About claiming WTC area was safe: It would be wise for people who were not from 9/11 and the WTC - especially TODD WHITMAN - to shut the hell up about WTC dust being "OK" or withing Federal standards (NOT!) or not having enough skillsets around to determine the air was unsafe, or the regulations not being tuned to handle this disaster. THIS all has been stated before, by better than most any johnny come lately, and all that was dealt with in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 - has been discussed to death and finally GZ WAS PROVEN TO BE EQUIVALENT TO A SUPERFUND SITE - WHITMAN should have the decency to plead the Fifth - because the WTC survivors aren't all conveniently dead yet, and can testify as to what really went on - she's lucky CONGRESS won't ever let that happen.
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 2:10:39 PMRespond ^
HEY TODD WHITMAN: What did BEEKMAN DOWNTOWN HOSPITAL, NOW PART OF NYU TELL LOWER MANHATTAN RESIDENTS WHO WENT TO THEM WITH ILLNESSES? MOVE, THE AIR IS TOXIC. I HAVE A BAG OF WTC DUST WHITMAN, WITH YOUR NAME ON IT, put your money where your nose is, you murderous, lying, degenerate, death-mongering terrorist from the gutters of hell... which would be the Bush-Cheney White House.
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 2:18:20 PMRespond ^
Why did Dr. Levin of the Mt. Sinai program say it was only funded for 200 people until early 2002 - when the quorum of Mt.Sinai WTC program doctors were giving Senate testimony November 2001 that THOUSANDS were sick? Why were they trying to keep th Lower Manhattan RESIDENTS out of the program? Why were they only cherry picking from the uniformed services? Why wasn't a hospital closer to the WTC chosen to make it easier for the sick residents to have access. Mt. Sinai is a 90 minutes subway ride away at best... during a time when transportation was horrifically difficult. Anyone out there with a brain putting two and two together here? Does Congress want a local count of the dying residents? Bet your sweet ass they don't. It was ONLY the elderly and already ill who "went" first, THEY DID NOT COUNT THEN AND DO NOT COUNT NOW. That one was for Michael W. Died December 2001.
Posted by:WTCDUST TragediesJune 30, 2007 2:25:49 PMRespond ^
this [deleted] todd whitman is gonna get hers someday. for every one of us who dies from mesothelioma she helped cause, she'll get a case of oral and vaginal herpes and syphillis, and her dank womb will fall out from between her skanky legs for what she has done to us all..
Posted by:another asbestos victimJuly 1, 2007 4:41:11 PMRespond ^
When Government can knowingly allow Corporations to knowingly kill we the people then we the people have a government just as guilty as the Corporations that are/have killed us.And in Libby Mt this has continued since 1999 by people being told Libby is safe.Remember,ALL this deadly Tremolite asbestos came from Libby by WR Grace who knowingly began killing millions in 1963.The latency period is upon us and now we are all suffering and dying.And can you believe EPA and this murderous Govt. continues to lie which is continueing exposure to innocent healthy people being told again don't worry, the air is safe.My God people,just look how many innocent people have been effected by this Holocaust that was done to all of us.The one thing WE ALL MUST ask our elected official is: Were you also lied to or were you aware of what was being done to us?We have to vote these bastards out of office,ALL REPUBLICANS and all who have failed to warn,inform and protect the public from something that kills you.Governers,mayors,city,county,EPA DEQ and ALL responsible for knowingly allowing us to be killed.Thanks to David Newman and Nina Lavin for the truth that this Government has knowingly killed us,we the people, and we had better get our heads out of our asses because the war is against those who are killing us and telling us all is safe. This is a deadly lie and this Govt needs to go to hell.It is up to all of us to protect those we leave behind even if it is our children who also have been lied to and exposed to suffer and die.Everyone write letters,God bless this enternet,we all must educate eachother to the truth in order to protect those we love.This Government is killing us,knowingly and I for one stand in line with guns in hand to defend against those who want to kill my entire family.In Libby Montana,three generations of my tree are dead and dying so I would love to return the favor,before I die.Keep your powder dry my friend.Also check out okiespotlight, another gladiator for our survival.We have to save eachother we can't depend on this Govt,who also is killing us. Let this war begin....
Posted by:Mike CrillJuly 2, 2007 12:12:02 PMRespond ^
Listen people,since I became president and Ms. Whitman being under my desk(so to speak)we in the White House could care less about all of you crybabies who bitch about alittle bad air.Whitman lied to all of you because I told her to.I told all of my staff and Republicans to lie to all of you cause the plan I have is one world order with out you people.Get it!!!For over 40 years now, before I got into office, my great-great grandfather began the secret gang called skall and crossbones to take over this planet and we are almost there.As soon as I attack Iran,we/I will be able to nuke millions and continue to the rest of the world to rule, one world order,Bush order.With the help of Corporations and a ignorant and chicken [deleted] Govt, we have knowingly killed millions of people for generations to come.Oh what can you do about it? Join me or die.By the way,Ms.Whitman is a dead [deleted].
Posted by:Todd- Whitman and GeorgeJuly 2, 2007 12:31:49 PMRespond ^
Mike Crill is correct - in 2001 those honest journalists who knew their stuff tried to help us understand why the government was killing more of us than Al Qaeda (whatever that is) did on 9/11 - they told us to look at LIBBY,MONTANA as a blueprint for what was coming down the pike for the 9/11 survivors. It was the beginning of an overdue education for many. The value of any "terrorist" attack or massive natural disaster is the opportunity for those in power to make money and take power. The 9/11 moneys reserved to help residents were stolen by the very Red Cross (you still owe me $3,000 you terrorist blood suckers) the money was sent to help. Those operating intake questionnaires on the devastated residents lied - said the money were all gone, they could only give out a few grand, when the agency limits were $10,000 - and they pocketed the moneys themselves. While they went home and promoted themselves as heroes for coming to help the 9/11 victims, but MOST OF THEM running the show stole and threatened the victims... I have names and dates, but better yet I have residential addresses... for service of legal documents OF COURSE. What else could we consider them deserving to be served?
Posted by:WTCDust TragediesJuly 2, 2007 2:47:32 PMRespond ^
May I request that all of you read " A Town Left to Die From an Air That Kills" by Andrew Schilner(??)of the Seattle Post.He broke the story on Libby.Then if you would,watch the documentry titled"Dust to Dust" by Michael Brown Productions.All of you are now coming to grips to what is happening to you, those exposed to asbestos and you all will have to be/get educated about this deadly fiber if only to save your children from this deadly exposure,which this Govt has knowingly allowed to happen to you and I.When we learned the truth in 1999 as to why we are sick and dying in Libby, their is 240 processing plants that this deadly fiber went to from Libby.All those exposed people/families are now waking up to the truth just as we did.And yet seven years later, here we are still being poisoned by the same Govt that allowed this to happen to us in the first place,knowingly.And those 240 processing plants town will face the same lies because you have to remember that WR Grace had over 40 years to put in place how they were going to poison millions and all these towns became corupt for doing nothing to stop this known killer.In Libby,the only ones who didn't know what was going on was the people and the miners.Everyone else was aware of this and of course made millions off of what was done to us.This is why this continues because just think how many hundreds of millions of dollars were made to those who chose to keep their mouths shut about killing people/families.What ever you want to call this known exposure that was done to all of us,this holocaust has/will kill millions long after we are all gone.This is why everyone of us have to get smart for ourselves to protect ourselves and our children because corporations and Govt is not for our best interest when they knowingly kill us.And we all learn everyday.We the people have to stop this Govt from knowingly killing us.I wish we all could do the same to them.Oh wouldn't that be fun.May the sheeple become the people if we are to survive.Don't you all agree???Keep your powder dry my friends.
Posted by:Mike CrillJuly 3, 2007 11:23:56 AMRespond ^
Gov Whitman reduced a NJ income tax, a tax dedicated to k-12 schools. The loss showed up in real estate taxes on the poor, the elderly and those trying to conserve. The Gov received financial support from a company in California. We got faulty EZ Pass and auto inspection systems. Go figure.
Posted by:Chas M.July 3, 2007 12:41:36 PMRespond ^
I shall reveal a few items here, regarding that degenerate sleaze, TODD WHITMAN, and why she was tapped to complete the slaughter of 9/11 civilians via the EPA: (1)Do you remember Jamie Gorelick? of the 9/11 Comission? "Jamie Gorelick sits on the boards of two companies directly benefiting from Bush-Cheney policy, one oil related (Schlumberger), one defense related (United Technologies), not to mention her prior position as general counsel of the Department of Defense while the Bridas "mugging" was in progress in two countries Pakistan and Turkmenistan. Christine Todd Whitman, former Bush EPA head, sits on the United Technologies board too. What environmental policy?" File this away as Number 1. More to come.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 2:34:53 PMRespond ^
The China US Growth Fund sports TODD-WHITMAN AND GORELICK: http://www.secinfo.com/dScj2.13sd.htm Now read about those selling America down the drain here: "This article is about the people they are using to achieve these goals; the people they are using to manipulate you, the media, and your elected representatives ~ the friends of Communist China. Kissinger, Haig, Scrowcroft, Cheney, Schultz, Eagleburger, Hills, Baker, and Vance head the list of these friends. These people are senior, respected and esteemed, American politicians who advise members of our government and who also have access to the rulers of Red China. They have gained access to the members of China's totalitarian clique because of their past and continued support of this regime. They are valued and given favors by the clique because of their supporting articles printed in major newspapers and their lobbying efforts in Congress; witness their recent success in Congress's MFN vote for Communist China. They act as unregistered lobbyists for the Communist Rulers while "advising" American politicians. They are well paid for their efforts. They are paid by honorariums directly and brokerage fees indirectly from Communist China through multinational corporations who do business or want to do business in China. In my opinion, they have sold our country for 30 pieces of silver. Red China is not a nation ruled by law. It is a country ruled by privilege. And the privilege of doing business in Mainland China is controlled by the leaders of the Communist Party and their sons and daughters. They don't like businessmen. If you want to do business, you must have a broker, and the American brokers with the most clout with the communist regime are, you guessed it, Kissinger, Haig, Scrowcroft, Chaney, Schultz, Eagleburger, Hills, Baker, and Vance. Kissinger owns Kissinger Associates a "consulting" firm. Both Scrowcroft and Eagleburger are past presidents of this brokerage house. Henry Alfred Kissinger is the great persuader. Kissinger is credited for buttonholing Gingrich in 1995, and persuading him to support the delinking of "human rights" from trade with Communist China and to drop his support of Taiwan. In January 1996, David Rothkopf, the former boss of John Huang in Clinton's Commerce Department, joined Kissinger Associates as its managing director. Clients of Kissinger Associates who do business with Red China are Chase Manhattan Bank, Coca-Cola ("We are not an American Company."), American Express, The American International Group (of Mexican Bailout fame), Continental Grain, H.J. Heinz, Atlantic Richfield, Midland Bank and S.G. Warburg. Six and seven figure client fees per year are reputed to be the norm. Haig owns Worldwide Associates whose principle client is United Technologies (The company that announced it is moving it's corporate headquarters to Indonesia). Haig has helped United Technologies win billions of dollars in contracts with Red China for everything from airplanes to air conditioners. Haig is also noted for being a Senior Advisor to the China Ocean Shipping Company (COSCO), the maritime arm of the Chinese Communist Navy, who signed a 10 year lease for the closed US Naval Base at Long Beach California. The Chinese Communist Elint Fleet of trawlers (electronic intelligence) fly COSCO's flag. Haig is also reputed to have gotten Ross Munro fired (Sound familiar - John Coleman?) from the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia after he co-authored with Richard Bernstein "The Coming Conflict With China", Alfred A. Knopf, 1997. This book you have to read! Don't expect a tirade. You are going to get documented facts. Note, just to inform you of relationships, United Technologies is one of the principle clients of VanStar Inc. a multimillion-dollar, high tech computer networking company. The CEO of VanStar is William Tauscher. Tauscher's wife Ellen is the Congressional Representative from the 10th Congressional District in California. Ellen Tauscher is a freshman congressman (D) and the former campaign finance manager for Senator Diane Feinstein (D, CA), who is considered the leading spokesperson for Communist China in the United States Senate. Feinstein's husband is Richard Blum, whose personal investment in Communist China is alleged to be between 2 and 3 billion dollars. One of Blum's companies is Newbridge Capital Ltd. The Managing Director of Newbridge is Peter Kwok. Kwok came to Newbridge from Bankers Trust. Bankers Trust is one of the financial partners of COSCO. Kwok also sits on the board of COSCO Holdings as a consultant. Question: How did Ellen Tauscher vote concerning Most Favored Trade Status for Communist China? Go on. Take a guess. Scrowcroft has his own "consulting" firm, "The Scrowcroft Group" and a nonprofit lobby forum "The Forum for International Policy" which he operates out of the same suite of offices on K street in Washington. His briefs on Communist China sometimes take on the red tint of "blame America" that is right out of the controlled press in Red China. These briefs are faxed to Congress. Cheney (Morgan Stanley, Halliburton Oil) and Shultz (Bechtel) receive their brokerage fees in the form of salaries as Chairman or Director of the Boards they sit on. Their principle roles include the brokerage of deals with Communist China. Vance and Baker are senior or managing partners in law firms that represent companies with interests in China. It is not their knowledge of Chinese law, it is who they know that is important and their clout with those individuals."
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 2:44:29 PMRespond ^
TODD-WHITMAN: You lap-dance with ALEXANDER HAIG, CHENEY, KISSINGER, BUSH, SCOWCROFT and other war mongerers selling America into oblivion, so don't try the "girl scout" approach - you're in it up to the greedy little slits you call your eyes. SMOKING GUN MAY IMPLICATE CHRISTY TODD WHITMAN IN FELONIES By Jenna Orkin* EPA Senior Policy Analyst Hugh Kaufman revealed today what he called a "smoking gun," documents showing that Administrator Christy Todd Whitman committed a felony when she reassured New Yorkers that their air was safe to breathe following the terrorist attacks of 9/11. The internal documents, obtained by Congressman Jerrold Nadler whose district includes Ground Zero, consist of notes written in preparation for the EPA Inspector General's Report of August, 2003. That report showed that at least one EPA press release was edited by the White House Council on Environmental Quality to replace cautionary statements about asbestos with reassurances. In the notes, EPA Spokesperson Tina Kreisher is asked whether there was a 'conscious effort' to reassure the public. Ms. Kreisher responded that there was such an effort and that it came both from the Administrator and the White House. The newly unearthed notes are particularly d amning, Kaufman says, because Whitman had a personal financial interest in getting Lower Manhattan up and running again. She owned millions of dollars' worth of bonds from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey which in turn owned the WTC site. A letter from Whitman dated January 19, 2001 to Ann Wolgast, an EPA Ethics official, states that Whitman understood that certain of her family's financial interests, including the PA bonds, presented potential conflicts of interest. Thus when she took office on February 1, 2001, she recused herself from cases involving the PA, among other companies. She therefore broke the law by getting involved in the World Trade Center case at all, Kaufman says. The case should have been handled by her Deputy, Linda Fisher, who had 25 years' experience. On September 13, 2006, Congressman Nadler, along with Congressmen Weiner and Pascrell, wrote to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez requesting that a Special Counsel be appoin ted to investigate whether criminal charges should be brought against former Administrator Whitman as well as against other government officials for possibly endangering the lives of thousands of people following the attacks. "Christie Whitman repeatedly declared the air safe, and now thousands of people are sick, and some have died, from World Trade Center contamination," Nadler said. "To add insult to injury, she just went on 60 Minutes and tried to blame everybody else for her misdeeds. She must be held accountable." Kaufman says that Whitman may also have been motivated by a second conflict of interest from which, however, she did not recuse herself: She owned $250,000 stock in Citigroup which in turn owned Travellers' Insurance, a major downtown insurance company. Her husband John had worked for Citigroup before running a spinoff, Sycamore, which managed Citigroup's Far East branch. Kaufman was the Chief Investigator for the EPA Ombudsman's Of fice until Whitman shut that office down by folding it into the Inspector General's office. The move ended the transparency which had been the hallmark of Ombudsman investigations; the IG Office focussed on enforcement. However Nikki Tinsley, the IG in charge of the highly critical report on the World Trade Center, is also no longer in office. The documents obtained contain enough evidence, Kaufman says, to warrant hiring a Special Prosecutor. Possible crimes include wrongful endangerment and manslaughter. "The heroes should have their day in court and all enemies, foreign and domestic, should be held accountable." *One of twelve original plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit against the EPA.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:01:16 PMRespond ^
"The heroes should have their day in court and all enemies, foreign and domestic, should be held accountable." THIS JULY 4TH 2007 IS HIGH TIME TODD WHITMAN- DOMESTIC TERRORIST, DOMESTIC ENEMY - BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. WE START TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY - AND GETTING JUSTICE FOR 9/11 - WHEN WE HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE AT THE FIRING SQUAD OF THE PEOPLE'S TRUTH.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:03:39 PMRespond ^
TODD-WHITMAN CONTINUES HER DEGENERATE LIFE'S WORK TO BRING ENVIRONMENTAL DEATH TO YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN: Lobbying / Consulting Work After returning to private life, Whitman founded a consulting / lobbying firm called the Whitman Strategy Group in 2004. [2] In 2006, she was named as the co-chair of and a paid spokesperson for the Clean and Safe Energy Coalition, a pro-nuclear power group funded by the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI). [3] "Whitman and NEI spokesman Scott Peterson declined to give the [Clean and Safe Energy] coalition's budget," reported the National Journal. "Nor would Whitman disclose what NEI is paying her consulting firm, the Whitman Strategy Group." (Lisa Caruso, "Can We Talk (About Nuclear Energy?)," National Journal, September 9, 2006)
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:10:05 PMRespond ^
YOU WANT TO A LIST OF THE WHITE HOUSE DICKs TODD-WHITMAN SUCKS? Cheney Energy Task Force "Whitman owns interests in oil wells in Texas and Colorado valued at between $55,000 and $175,000," reported the San Jose Mercury News on February 28, 2001 ("Top officials face conflict of interest queries over oil connections"). "She has promised to divest of them to meet ethics guidelines." The particular companies Whitman held investments in were CEX Operating Co. of Dallas, Hunt Oil Co. of Houston, and St. Mary Operating Co. in Colorado. The conflicts were highlighted during meetings of Vice-President Cheney's Energy Task Force.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:11:59 PMRespond ^
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO PHYSICALLY FIND THIS DEGENERATE GHOUL - THE AMERICAN AL QAEDA BUSHWOMAN - INTENT ON KILLING AMERICAN CHILDREN - KNOWN AS TODD-WHITMAN? Board Positions and Other Affiliations According to her bio on the Whitman Strategy Group website (accessed June 12, 2007), Whitman has the following affiliations: [17] * Co-chair, National Smart Growth Council * Member, governors' board of the Oquirrh Institute * Board of Directors, S. C. Johnson and Son, Inc. * Board of Directors, Texas Instruments * Board of Directors, United Technologies * Board of Directors, Millennium Challenge Corporation * Board of Directors, Council on Foreign Relations In June 2006, The Record reported that Whitman had three paying board positions, for United Technologies Corp., Texas Instruments, SC Johnson & Son. Her total compensation for the three positions was $195,000 plus stock options. (Kathleen Lynn, "Getting on boards; Ex-officials land big fees as corporate directors," The Record (Bergen County, N.J.), June 18, 2006) Whitman told The Record that "Being a former public official does give me the ability to raise the red flag for corporations as to the reaction of regulators to various proposed initiatives and some insight as to what to expect politically in the country."
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:15:36 PMRespond ^
I'm keeping my saved WTC dust powder dry - for TODD WHITMAN, and the rest of her SATANIC GHOULS.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 3:17:15 PMRespond ^
The China US Growth Fund sports TODD-WHITMAN AND GORELICK: http://www.secinfo.com/dScj2.13sd.htm Now read about those selling America down the drain here: "This article is about the people they are using to achieve these goals; the people they are using to manipulate you, the media, and your elected representatives ~ the friends of Communist China. Kissinger, Haig, Scrowcroft, Cheney, Schultz, Eagleburger, Hills, Baker, and Vance head the list of these friends. These people are senior, respected and esteemed, American politicians who advise members of our government and who also have access to the rulers of Red China. They have gained access to the members of China's totalitarian clique because of their past and continued support of this regime. They are valued and given favors by the clique because of their supporting articles printed in major newspapers and their lobbying efforts in Congress; witness their recent success in Congress's MFN vote for Communist China. They act as unregistered lobbyists for the Communist Rulers while "advising" American politicians. They are well paid for their efforts. They are paid by honorariums directly and brokerage fees indirectly from Communist China through multinational corporations who do business or want to do business in China. In my opinion, they have sold our country for 30 pieces of silver. Red China is not a nation ruled by law. It is a country ruled by privilege. And the privilege of doing business in Mainland China is controlled by the leaders of the Communist Party and their sons and daughters. They don't like businessmen. If you want to do business, you must have a broker, and the American brokers with the most clout with the communist regime are, you guessed it, Kissinger, Haig, Scrowcroft, Chaney, Schultz, Eagleburger, Hills, Baker, and Vance. Kissinger owns Kissinger Associates a "consulting" firm. Both Scrowcroft and Eagleburger are past presidents of this brokerage house. Henry Alfred Kissinger is the great persuader. Kissinger is credited for buttonholing Gingrich in 1995, and persuading him to support the delinking of "human rights" from trade with Communist China and to drop his support of Taiwan. In January 1996, David Rothkopf, the former boss of John Huang in Clinton's Commerce Department, joined Kissinger Associates as its managing director. Clients of Kissinger Associates who do business with Red China are Chase Manhattan Bank, Coca-Cola ("We are not an American Company."), American Express, The American International Group (of Mexican Bailout fame), Continental Grain, H.J. Heinz, Atlantic Richfield, Midland Bank and S.G. Warburg. Six and seven figure client fees per year are reputed to be the norm. Haig owns Worldwide Associates whose principle client is United Technologies (The company that announced it is moving it's corporate headquarters to Indonesia). Haig has helped United Technologies win billions of dollars in contracts with Red China for everything from airplanes to air conditioners. Haig is also noted for being a Senior Advisor to the China Ocean Shipping Company (COSCO), the maritime arm of the Chinese Communist Navy, who signed a 10 year lease for the closed US Naval Base at Long Beach California. The Chinese Communist Elint Fleet of trawlers (electronic intelligence) fly COSCO's flag. Haig is also reputed to have gotten Ross Munro fired (Sound familiar - John Coleman?) from the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia after he co-authored with Richard Bernstein "The Coming Conflict With China", Alfred A. Knopf, 1997. This book you have to read! Don't expect a tirade. You are going to get documented facts. Note, just to inform you of relationships, United Technologies is one of the principle clients of VanStar Inc. a multimillion-dollar, high tech computer networking company. The CEO of VanStar is William Tauscher. Tauscher's wife Ellen is the Congressional Representative from the 10th Congressional District in California. Ellen Tauscher is a freshman congressman (D) and the former campaign finance manager for Senator Diane Feinstein (D, CA), who is considered the leading spokesperson for Communist China in the United States Senate. Feinstein's husband is Richard Blum, whose personal investment in Communist China is alleged to be between 2 and 3 billion dollars. One of Blum's companies is Newbridge Capital Ltd. The Managing Director of Newbridge is Peter Kwok. Kwok came to Newbridge from Bankers Trust. Bankers Trust is one of the financial partners of COSCO. Kwok also sits on the board of COSCO Holdings as a consultant. Question: How did Ellen Tauscher vote concerning Most Favored Trade Status for Communist China? Go on. Take a guess. Scrowcroft has his own "consulting" firm, "The Scrowcroft Group" and a nonprofit lobby forum "The Forum for International Policy" which he operates out of the same suite of offices on K street in Washington. His briefs on Communist China sometimes take on the red tint of "blame America" that is right out of the controlled press in Red China. These briefs are faxed to Congress. Cheney (Morgan Stanley, Halliburton Oil) and Shultz (Bechtel) receive their brokerage fees in the form of salaries as Chairman or Director of the Boards they sit on. Their principle roles include the brokerage of deals with Communist China. Vance and Baker are senior or managing partners in law firms that represent companies with interests in China. It is not their knowledge of Chinese law, it is who they know that is important and their clout with those individuals."
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 4:33:43 PMRespond ^
TODD WHITMAN: Appointed by Governor THOMAS KEAN 1988 as president NJ Board of Public Utilities, State agency regulating rates, other operations of NJ public utilities, resigned 1990 to run for Senate. In that time frame GOVERNOR TOM KEAN, (head of the 9/11 Commission after Kissinger was voted down by public outcry) WAS DOING MULTI-MILLION DOLLARR PERSON REAL ESTATE DEALS - WITH THE SAME TERRORISTS WHO FUNDED THE 9/11 HIJACKERS. SEE US CUSTOMS TESTIMONY IN VIRGINIA CASE AGAINST TERRORIST ENAAM ARNAOUT. YOU THINK YOU'RE DEALING WITH HUMAN BEINGS? - YOU'RE DEALING WITH TREASONOUS TERRORIST RATS, THEY NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE, AND EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE TO POINT THEIR RIGHTEOUS 9/11 ANGER. AND IT'S HARDLY IRAQ. IT'S THESE TERRORIST TWATS LIKE WHITMAN, GORELICK, KEAN, KISSINGER, CHENEY, BUSH, ALL OF THEM.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 3, 2007 4:38:53 PMRespond ^
WHO WILL LEAD THE CHARGE TO RID US OF THESE TERRORISTS WHO HAVE PIRATED THE WHITE HOUSE, TORN THE CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS, AND INSTALLED A REIGN OF TERROR?
Posted by:Imeach ExecutiveOfficeJuly 3, 2007 4:40:57 PMRespond ^
And for what's coming down the pike for those who orchestrated these satanic horror shows - like 9/11 and the toxic aftermath - America - you invented the playbook for revolution - remember people get the government they deserve, people get the government they demand. THEY ARE MORE AFRAID OF US AND THEIR MILITARY IS TIRED OF BEING SET UP.
Posted by:Impeach ExecutiveBranchJuly 3, 2007 4:47:14 PMRespond ^
Wow, and who is protecting the american people from tis government?
Posted by:Erich, SwitzerlandJuly 5, 2007 3:05:27 AMRespond ^
I like this Mother Jones.Thank you for letting us spread the truth.I would like to share a poam I wrote which tells you basicly the reality of dying from asbestos.This is called "Today". TODAY, I'm told I have asbestosis in both my lungs and that I am being sent home to die because there is no cure and asbestosis is my guarantee to death. TODAY, I am scared to what has become of me.I no longer can run nor walk very far. Life's getting harder everyday. TODAY, I am saddened by those who love me as they try to hide the truth and their pain,knowing I shall soon die and that they will witness my every moments,until I die. TODAY, I feel so lost because my life depends on a tube that pumps oxygen into my lungs, to keep me alive.Knowing beyond the end of that hose lies,the end of my life. TODAY, I am mad because I can't feed myself and somebody has to bath me, dress me and change my soiled pants.It's times like these I wish I were dead. TODAY, I am in the hospital. I've become too much for my loved ones to endure and I am crying inside because I know when I leave here, I'll be in heaven. TODAY, is the worst, no feelings in my hands and feet,both are turning blue and non-stop morphine is all that's left,to ease my pain. TODAY, I tried my hardest for my last breathe,for my last touch of a hand in mine, as the last words I heard and the last words I spoke,I Love You. TODAY, I'm in heaven.No pain for ever more.It's relly beautiful here.And I shall await for you all to join me in eternal life and love.God Bless and Amen... My father in law was diagnosed in 1999 with asbestosis in both his lungs.And he suffered for many years prior, up to his last breathe on January 30, 2002.The above is a summery of the last years and this is how I would describe those years of having to watch my Dad and many others, die such a horrible and painful death as asbestosis.We watch him suffocate to death.In 1999 I too, along with three generations of my family was told I have asbestos in both my lungs.I too worked at this deadly mine and lived in Libby most of my life. TODAY I'm scared to what has become of me.I no longer can run nor walk very far. Life's getting harder every day.. This is written in honor and memory of our beloved father,friend and human being, who left us to be in peace. Donald M. Kaeding 10-16-22 to 1-30-02
Posted by:Mike CrillJuly 6, 2007 7:42:45 AMRespond ^
I thought this would be of interest to your readers. "Those who do not choose to comply should be forced to do so.Despoiling land,water and air constitutes a crime against the human race and should be punishable by fine, imprisonment and expropriation.WE should hold city councilmen,company directors and all others in authority, individually and collectively, for crimes against our planet committed by the organizations for which they are responsible.Sierra Club...
Posted by:Mike CrillJuly 6, 2007 7:48:59 AMRespond ^
This to ERICH in Switzerland - "Wow, and who is protecting the american people from tis government?" Well your country's banks for one, which hide the truth of the narco-terrorism money laundering in your secret bank accounts - I mean your country's banks hold the one secret outed - and someone paid with their life for that - that Osama Bin Laden's CIA account was set up with another one associated with BCCI. Want to talk about Viktor Bout and the 9/11 UAE hijackers accounts or do you want to talk about Swiss Nazi citizen, Francois Genoud, the Swiss Nazi gold involved with terrorism, or white nazi Yusuf Nada and his Al Taqwa bank. No, if you're from Switzerland, it's best to shut YOUR trap, and stay there, 9/11 is for US citizens to get justice for, the act and the terrorists EPA aftermath.
Posted by:Impeach WhitmanJuly 12, 2007 2:55:08 PMRespond ^
EVERYONE please read the testimony of David Newman and Nina Lavin on 6-20/6-25 infront of NYCOSH.epw.senate.gov.This testimony will show all of you that EPA and the White House could care less about all of us with asbestos.Mr. Newman states that EPA and WH is not concerned about the health and safety of the people but instead their concerns are:1st priority is How we(EPA) can DOWNPLAY the exposure and then How much money can be made.You all want to know who the terrorists are that are knowingly killing you and I?Wake up people because it is this murderous Govt and Corporations along with the White House murderers that are killing us,"We The People".Check this out for yourselves and please pass this on to all you know and love because no one is safe whit this murderous Govt against we the people.Stay the hell away from Libby Montana unless you and your entire family want to suffer and die from asbestos exposure.
Posted by:mike crillJuly 19, 2007 11:44:50 AMRespond ^
How sad Todd-Whitman said she wasn't sure if she had authority at the time to demand proper clean-up equipment to rescuers. Well I say, take the authority and worry about yourself later. She was an official in the Federal Government for God's sake, so to use that excuse is unforgivable. She knew, as well as all the other officials, how unsafe the area was. I guess they hoped no one would put 2 and 2 together. Unfortunately, the suffering of those courageous people continues. They should all be charged with crimes against humanity or abdicating their oaths of office. Let them all know what liars they are. Shameful, arrogant, incompetant bastards.
Posted by:LucilleJuly 27, 2007 8:43:37 AMRespond ^
ALERT!!! ALERT!!! Read Aug 07 issue of Independent Missoula a story by Paul Peters on David Newmans testimony about the truth that this White House and EPA are responsible for the continued exposure to innocent people/families of Tremolite asbestos fibers that kill you,knowingly.This is a wake up call for everyone out their because we/you all need to educate yourselves in order to save those we leave behind, our children,your children from something that kills you.The people have been lied to not protected and Paul Peters story I hope make all of you think twice,when it concerns our kids.Please pass this story on to all. Thank you.
Posted by:Mike CrillJuly 31, 2007 11:03:54 AMRespond ^
I lost a cousin in the Tower. Being a healer myself, I have since wondered if there was any way I could contribute in a positive way. A few months ago a friend of mine told me about a natural mineral that safely detoxifies the body of heavy metals and gases and interestingly enough on that same fateful day earned a patent for curing epithelial cell cancer. Although I maybe cannot help those with physical injuries, I now know I can help anyone suffering from the debilitating effects of an overdose of toxicity. Please help me get this important information to the people who need it? Thanks, (415) 927-1428 - Madalyn Suozzo www.liquidzeolite.org
Posted by:Madalyn SuozzoAugust 7, 2007 6:05:04 PMRespond ^
Story from Mother Jones "Not in Their Back Yard" The "asbestos" which in reality is Tremolite, the most deadly form of "asbestos", one of only 2 asbestos types and 1 other mineral fiber known to be powerful enough to cause environmental epidemics in the absence of industry. was found on the school grounds in El Dorado County in 1997!! Not by EPA in 2005! EPA was notified of this find of course in 1997, but they did nothing at all, Which is what they did in Libby Montana for decades after science article after science article was published detailing the deaths. Libby even held public meetings in the mid 1980s, to alert the population as to what was occurring and EPA still did not respond. After the asbestos was found on the school grounds, the County of El Dorado Public Health Officer took two steps to cover it up so nobody would ever know. The first step was to replace the air intakes for the school, which were located directly in front of piles of asbestos. The second step was to spend 3 million dollars to attempt to hide the asbestos exposures that had occurred there for over 25 years, from EPA, by covering up the various asbestos piles and cleaning out the school rooms. They were trying to not be embarrassed when EPA came to town. Of course El Dorado officials had no idea what they were doing, so their clean up was found to be inadequate by EPA who spent another 2 million to clean the school. Irony of ironies, directly after this clean up, and EPA wasn't looking anymore, the school purchased gravel made up of white serpentine rock, composed of some 30% Chrysotile asbestos and approximately 7% Tremolite, and placed it for a road directly on top of the original "asbestos" find!! With no pavement over it. It remains open to the school children to this date. Based upon this exemplary behavior by El Dorado County officials, EPA decided to leave the whole asbestos question to their devices!! As if anyone in El Dorado County Government would ever tell anyone the truth regarding "asbestos" exposures!! Heck no they won't. They get elected to office by the money from people who develop the land. So do the officials EPA made a deal with to not super fund anything in El Dorado County. Meanwhile the largest known pure Tremolite deposits in the United States can be easily found at the surface on many people's properties, exposures occur every single day and they are moving thousands of more people onto these deposits as we speak. Not to be outdone, I have found the same situation in Amador County where the death toll already exceeds El Dorado County, by a lot...but El Dorado is catching up quickly. Other found the same situation with Tremolite only, in other counties. Of course California has 50 counties with serpentine (Chrysotile) asbestos present, not one death ever found associated anywhere with these Chrysotile deposits. But in the very few places in California where there are Tremolite deposits, the death toll simply jumps out of the records at a person. Dr. Marc Schenker at UC Davis has the goods on this. All of these deaths in El Dorado and Amador, from exposures 30 to 40 years ago, way before the main source of Tremolite was opened up in 1996!! Basically a person has no protection at all from asbestos poisoning in the United States. EPA officials allow exposures 1,000 times greater than is required to cause fatal disease, as a matter of course. (See Feds will check on Bayview asbestos San Francisco Chronicle August 3, 2007) .A person is actually in more danger from EPA than they are from Corporations who use "asbestos"!! Most exposures in the United States go completely unregulated so are substantially higher than the un protective levels adopted by EPA as a benchmark for safety!! What a complete and horrendous joke, perpetrated by Keystone Kops upon the innocent American Public. (See also "A dangerous lie" Missoula Independent July 27, 2007). Please also see Randall Patterson's comment regarding the book "Enemy of the People" at front of the hard copy of this issue of Mother Jones. "It's as if El Dorado County Officials were taking their lines directly out of Ibsen's Enemy of the People"...which of course they are..without knowing that they are because they are too stupid to read a book or understand it if they did.
Posted by:Terry El Dorado CountyAugust 9, 2007 1:07:46 PMRespond ^
Hello Mr. Trent and everyone concerned about exposure to this deadly Tremolite asbestos fiber.Read Paul Peters Aug. 2, 07 issue titles Libby meets Manhatten.And then Mr. Peters interview with EPA Steven Johnson on Aug 6.I want to thank Mr. Peters for all he is doing to expose these murderous, lieing bastards and educating the public about something that kills you.Terry,along with a small gang of gladiators have been telling you people the truth and WE ARE making a difference,WE ARE saving people.In David Newmans testimony he states a number of structures are of no concern to the EPA for clean up and one of those are schools.In Libby,since 1999, I have been trying to stop the children from going to Plummer School which is a pre-school and also where the play ground was made from the deadly ore of WR Grace.After so called clean up of this site, EPA stated they tested and found nothing.A deadly lie.In 2006,tests were taken at these schools by U of M, for asbestos and the results of the Plummer School were falsified and not made public on Jan.12,07.I have obtained three different sample results from EPA,DEQ,Denny Rehberg and all tests are different,still not addressing the exposure at Plummer School and others.So what we have here is a Govt. that does not protect it's citizens but knowingly allows it's citizens to be exposed to something that kills you.What the hell is wrong here?? It is also known that children living/breathing in a asbestos contaminated environment are more likly to get Mesotheeleoma,which also concerns me about those children.My children were born and raised in Libby and this angers me everyday not to mention I too am dying from not being told the truth or protected.So everyone,we all must educate eachother if we are to protect one another and those we leave behind, our children.My advise to all is to stay away from Libby Mt.I have saved alot of people and will continue till I die along with all the other gladiators who are following in my foot steps to spread the truth.Until next time,God Bless and keep your powder dry...Thank You
Posted by:Mike CrillAugust 10, 2007 12:13:22 PMRespond ^
The lieing murderous EPA states that another three years is needed for them to have a Toxicity report that will tell the truth as to how deadly/safe Libby is. This is a total of 10 years and over $150 Millions wasted tax payer money.Not one human being has been protected since 1999,as 200 plus people have moved to Libby being told Libby is a safe place to live and raise a family. This is a deadly lie.Well,I am about to save Libby millions and you will not have to wait another three years of lies because the following will resolve this issue. Then EPA can and better resolve the continued exposure on innocent people who are being exposed to suffer and die, as I. Sourse of Data;Dept of Health and Human Services-ATSDR.Toxicologial Profile for Asbestos(update) Sept 2001. Pg. 82 Statement;Providing limited evidence that some Tran placental transfer of asbestos fibers may occur, one group of investigators has reported that asbestos fibers were detected more frequently and at a higher means concentrations in human fetal and placental tissues associated with still born infants compared with placental tissue associsted with live born infants from the same hospital.(Hague etal.1991,1992,1996,1998). In the latest study from this group, asbestos fibers were found in 50% of fetal digests and 23% of placental digests from still born infants compared with 15% of live placentas. A letter to Robert Raisch from Suzanne Wuerthele,Ph.D Regional Toxicogist Region 8 dated Feb. 10, 1988 states:There is evidence that exposure to asbestos at an early age INCREASES the risk of developing Mesotheelioma. Infants are deemed to be the population MOST in need of protecting. So now EPA, what is your excuse to lie to the people?Libby is not safe to anything that breathes.Stay away from Libby Mt.Your welcome
Posted by:Mike CrillAugust 27, 2007 11:44:05 AMRespond ^
Mike Crill, that poam you wrote made me cry to no end because I and alot of us can truly relate to the last painful years of a loved one dying from asbestos.I have spent the last 15 years of my life caring and burying my loved ones and your poam Mike is truly what this is all about.I live this as many others do year after year,loved one after loved one and it seems to never end as the young kids are also beginning to show signs from exposure.Mike, I too look at all this exposure and death as a holocaust because today,it is.Thank you Mike Crill for sharing apart of you with me and others. You are not alone my friend.God Bless you.
Posted by:Beth TaykerSeptember 28, 2007 11:17:25 AMRespond ^
I can't believe I just read through this whole thing! But sir, I hope that you don't seriously believe that any reader is going to fooled by your contrived dialog. I'm sorry, but it's pretty obvious that you are the same author here, due in fact to common misspellings, writing style and contexts. I must tell you that you disserve your cause with the dishonest discourse. To be honest though, I doubt that anyone besides myself has actually spent the 45 minutes it takes to get through it all anyway. I just don't think that many will have the compasion that it takes to spend all that time and energy to get through your whole body of comments. But anyway, I do, and I did. I am interested in information on crimes such as these, against humanity, commited by those that you speak of. I respect your passion, and the apparent research that you have shared here, and I believe it a testiment to your sincerety and commitment on the subject matter. So, please feel free to contact me at: ILLUSION_IS_POWER_@_YAHOO_(dot)_COM so that you might tell me your story (are you sick?), point me to your recorces, etc. In turn, I may be able to point you in directions that allow you to be properly heard and your knowledge put to use, and possibly networked with like-minded people whom are truth and justice seekers and propigators such as you and myself. Really, I am just a normal guy that has spent some time and energy in research into seeking the truth, an enemy of the N W O, that has the desire to help to fight these criminals and killers and enemies of the United States, in whatever capacity I can. Thanks and God bless. [remove all the underscores and replace the "(dot)" for the email address... just trying to make it a little more trouble for any prospective spammers :)]
Posted by:concerned citizenNovember 7, 2007 11:35:59 AMRespond ^
To illusion is power@yahoo,I could not find your site but I was thrilled you had the time to educate yourself in the issues you read by the people who wrote them.I did not write the letter from Beth and I thank her for her concern.Thousands of people, entire families suffer today with this deadly exposure and those thousands of people WILL experience the same reality as what that poam is about.Being from Libby and also apart of millions being exposed today because I also loaded the grain cars that shipped this deadly ore all over this country that is killing millions today.Sometimes I feel like the dude who stood out side the gas chambers turning on the valve, thinking they are getting a shower but in reality,they were being gassed to death,unknown to me,at the time.Today we all know about the gassing of the Jews and we also know today what was done to millions of innocent people all over this planet in the poisoning by Tremolite asbestos fibers from Libby Mt.,by WR Grace and USofA.Not everyone see's this exposure as I being I am sufficating to death and know what I am talking about.And I have continued for over 17 years now to inform,warn and protect human beings from something that we all know now kills you.And I continue to save people everyday by telling them the truth that Libby is not safe to anything that breathes today.I am doing what this spinless Govt should be doing on behalf of the people instead of knowingly allowing more people to be exposed to something that kills you by lieing to the people telling them all is ok and safe.A deadly lie.Their is more than enough info out there to educate yourself about Libby,Tremolite asbestos and millions suffering and dying today along with a murderous Govt that stood by knowing what was happening to us and did NOTHING to stop it.Today nothing has changed except those of us who learned the truth once we were all told what was done to us,knowingly.I am a dieing activist,not of natural means but of known means as the rest of us.I do not wish this deadly exposure on no one except those who allowed this to happen to me and my family.I am one of the few addressing this continued exposure that I know is killing innocent people today in Libby from being lied to that Libby is safe.Over 1700 diagnosed with asbestos related and over 200 dead from Libby that does not include all those misdiagnosed who also died from asbestos.Some Dr.s STILL work for WR Grace and each person that is not properly diagnosed,saves WR Grace millions per person.This is more than a exposure issue.This is a crime against the human race and they sure have done a good job of it.Why is this so hard for all of you to see what has been done to us.WTC and 240 processing plants are the begining of this deadly exposure and will be long after we are gone.I am saying my peace now.Stay away from Libby Mt.Your welcome. Keep reading and keep ya powder dry.
Posted by:Mike CrillNovember 9, 2007 12:20:00 PMRespond ^
You know something, I just watch this show on the History channel that kinda hit me in a way that I really am thinking about finding something else to do and say for myself because it looks like life as we know it is on it's way out no matter how many human beings breathe Tremolite asbestos and all these other man made killers of mankind.The show I watched, I am sure most of you will ask me,Were the hell have you been" because this is nothing new but to me,I guess watching this show,showed me what people have been telling me.This show was about tomarrow and what plan their is for all of us and that the Four Horsemen in Revelations in the Bible and the End,with all this madness that IS going on around us and in our own lives,I just think that the more important things need to be a priority now, my family and all things that matter today and Libby and asbestos and people suffering and dying,Bush and Iraq and if Bush bombs Iran,No One,No One survives a nuke war.No One.You have a great day now, hug your kids all day, everyday and tell those you love,I love you because that will be all that matters when that time comes.Amen...And thank you to all of you Gladiators who continue and will continue to speek out and make a difference in the lives of human beings and this screwed up world we live in with hope that we/you can turn things around.Too bad I won't be around to find out.Love ya all...
Posted by:Mike CrillNovember 14, 2007 12:39:51 PMRespond ^
I just can't make up my mind these days but just imagine what I could do if I became a asbestos inspector,inspecting all homes and construction,remodaling,demo,etc prior to any permitts being issued by the City and County.This is to insure those home owners and family are protected from exposure to asbestos not to mention those in the neighborhoods who also will be exposed to asbestos if not done right.This also will result in criminal charges and a hefty fine to the contractor/home owner who exposure people to asbestos.Now wouldn't that be a job for me?I hope all towns adapt this law/orderance as Missoula Mt is about to do.Wake up call...
Posted by:Mike CrillDecember 3, 2007 11:34:06 AMRespond ^
Well that idea went as far as I could pack a latter.I guess I could hook up the ol air tanks and hose but it is also my body that, don't go far or do very much without going numb.Good idea maybe 10 years ago befor I was told I have asbestos in both my lungs.I can still be a letter writer since I got me a enternet machine with a E-mail.For those who want to "talk" about it/any thing, asbestoskillnme@gmail.com.What else ? Oh ya,Libby Mt. is not safe.Thank you
Posted by:Mike Crill.February 1, 2008 10:08:00 PMRespond ^