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Following the first hearings and GAO report, the FBI had been asked to investigate Thayer, in connection with the 2004 death of 15-year-old Roberto Reyes in its boot camp. Reyes' death had been attributed to complications from a spider bite, but the GAO report said that, "staff did not recognize the victim's medical distress or provide adequate treatment." The FBI turned over its findings to the Justice Department at the end of March, pending further action.

Before Reyes died, according to a letter to Thayer from the Missouri Department of Social Services (DSS), Thayer "supervisors denied requests for medical attention." Reyes was suspected of "faking," even though he had been "so sick that he had feces and urine all over him" and had to be "hosed down" in the shower. A 20-pound weight was tied around his waist "because he was too sick to exercise." (The GAO calls the weight a "sandbag.")

Thayer's attorney, Rhonda Smiley, says that the shower incidents never happened, and that the statements cited in the letter were from "ex-employees who had been fired and were not under oath." She says "there are no 20-lb weights at Thayer and there never have been," and that these are "old unsubstantiated and false allegations." Thayer is appealing a DSS report that blamed it for negligence in the boy's death, but has settled a lawsuit brought by Reyes' parents for $1 million. Smiley says Thayer settled because "they wanted the parents to have the insurance money."

Elberg was ultimately able to limit the scope of the search and kept ISAC's computer out of Thayer's hands, keeping its website online. He describes Thayer this way: "What we have here in the center of the U.S. is a private jail for adolescents without oversight by judges, mental health professionals or schools. Children are treated with methods which run afoul of compulsory education laws and accepted treatments for psychiatric conditions and wouldn't be permitted in juvenile prison."

But despite the widespread evidence of abuse, there are only two ongoing major lawsuits against the industry: both class action suits against the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASP). WWASP is linked to 12 currently operating programs in eight states and three countries, including the notorious Tranquility Bay in Jamaica.

Few attorneys are willing to take these cases. "The victims don't make attractive plaintiffs," says Elberg, "They are considered damaged goods going in. If they are still in terrible trouble afterwards, they are not the kind of people jurors want to give money. If they are better, the facility takes credit." Victims are also often unable to recognize the nature of their injury until the statute of limitations has passed.

And because the programs are often located in states or even countries with high unemployment that look favorably upon the programs as economic engines, getting favorable judgments is difficult. Suits brought in the state or country where the program operates are often defeated by jurors and judges who support the program because it employs their neighbors and they see the victims as liars with no local ties. Jurisdictional problems also abound. In some cases, it's difficult to determine where to sue—because the victim lives in one state, the program is located in another, and the people who actually profit from it somewhere else entirely.

The new legislation, however, could level the playing field. It contains a private "right of action" which allows attorneys to recover their fees if they sue these programs on behalf of teens and their families. This would make these cases far more attractive than they are now: Attorneys wouldn't need a large judgment to recoup their losses, only one that favors their side. "If this legislation passes, I would have no hesitation in devoting my entire practice to these cases," says Elberg.

Other provisions in the legislation include a federal ban on "disciplinary techniques or other practices that involve the withholding of essential food, water, clothing, shelter, or medical care," and on "acts of physical or mental abuse designed to humiliate, degrade, or undermine a child's self-respect." The new law would also require that teens have access to a new 24-hour national abuse reporting hotline and provides $50 million to fund and enforce the new standards. Miller's spokesman, Tom Kiley, says, "We are confident that the legislation will receive strong support in the House." The picture in the Senate is as of yet unpredictable, in an election year. Whatever happens, Elberg's not about to give up.



 

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the idea of a parent ... paying for a 'big do-over' for flawed parenting (its flawed if it doesn't WORK... regardless of the circumstances... that's why its parenting)...


behind a set of closed doors... is simply hiring a subcontractor to cause compliance.

yup. that's a new cultural norm.

Nobody's responsible for anything if they have the foresight to PAY for it or craft a believably petulant whine of complete ...'but its not my FAULT'...

from corporate ethics corruption...
to bad parenting...
to governments subcontracting torturers...
to a 'democracy' declaring that what is done in their name isn't their fault...


nobody is responsible for ANYTHING any more.

if you can't prevent being CAUGHT, you can simply decry your ignorance to the circumstances...

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Posted by:BlueBerry Pick'nMay 5, 2008 12:15:08 PMRespond ^
Unfortunately, this exact same kind of therapy is offered in just about every home in America. If you've ever watched the charlatan "Dr. Phil" practicing medicine on television, you'll know exactly what I mean.
Posted by:Buck BatardMay 5, 2008 1:01:20 PMRespond ^
This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart. My ex-husband placed my son in an unregulated residential "school" for troubled kids when he was 15. I can't overstate how awful it was- and not only was it awful, but the con artists had the entire community fooled. One of the "founders" of the school was a local police officer and eventually led to the closure of the school, due to allegations of his inappropriate sexual contact with a student. No one was prosecuted, but he lost his certifications for being in law enforcement and the school shut down and the other "founder" and her husband moved across the country, no doubt to do something equally hideous.
The really tragic part of the story is that she has already had her license for day care yanked and had lost foster kids due to her abusive and extreme treatment of those children. The "school" was totally unregulated and she'd finally found a way to make a living and abuse children without any real interference from official entities. Many in the community fought to get something done for a long period of time before we were successful in finally getting someone to listen to us. The local police and the local judges were all convinced that these people were doing "god's work". Things like broken teeth and bones were dismissed as self inflicted or the result of unprovoked attacks by the children on the staff. The children in these places have virtually NO voice. Their claims of abuse are ignored because they are seen as "bad kids", as well as a certain part of the community feeling that that sort of treatment if it did happen would "teach the kids a lesson".
We can't continue to look the other way and ignore these places. The kids who come out of these places have issues they never could have dreamt of when they get out- things like delayed stress and other mental disorders that crop of after being abused by sometimes well meaning but often power and control obsessed amateurs who use the kids misfortune to make their own fortunes.
Posted by:KatieMay 5, 2008 3:04:03 PMRespond ^
unregulated mayhem. Why is this nation so sick sick sick. completely and utterly lost. No grace. no love.

Posted by:JimMay 5, 2008 5:09:40 PMRespond ^
When you have a 19th century society, you get 19th century 'schools'. The children put in these places are tragic victims and many of them have died, alone and thinking their families don't care what happens to them. What drives all this is the mania for conformity which dominates American society.
Posted by:AntMay 5, 2008 10:03:31 PMRespond ^
Thank GOD someone is doing something about this. As a former foster child my social worker signed me up for various things. I had the fortitude to ask a judge to release me of such non-sense due to health issues. I also threatened to sue the state if these programs caused me illness. They stopped trying to sign me up for wilderness camp or boot camp then. CPS needs to be taken to task for financially supporting these institutions with our tax dollars. Many foster kids are placed KNOWINGLY by social workers in the exact same type of programs. It's awful. We should also sue CPS for mental abuse of children in a class action suit for their heavy handed tactics.
Posted by:DodyMay 6, 2008 2:09:38 AMRespond ^
I can't read this stuff without taking ACTION.
But I don't KNOW what to do. Help me know how to improv. PLEASE.
Posted by:Bernadette WarmanMay 6, 2008 5:08:40 AMRespond ^
There is something you can do! Call the members of the education and labor committee, particularly the Republicans
http://edlabor.house.gov/about/members.shtml

and express your support for HR 5876, the Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens Act of 2008!

Call or email or fax today!
Posted by:Maia SzalavitzMay 6, 2008 6:12:35 AMRespond ^
I think it's all fallout from Weak-Minded Parenting Syndrome, or WMPS. When you can face jail time for physically correcting your kids' behavior, well, it's just gonna get ugly from there. Disempowered parents equal juvenile misconduct, plain and simple.
I'm not saying that I think parent should be able to beat their kids indiscriminately like a rented mule, but rather be able to kindly but firmly enforce parental sanctions to include a butt-beating if called for. Kinder, gentler, we wander into the new millenium...
Posted by:BertMay 6, 2008 7:37:05 AMRespond ^
Thank you Maia Szalavitz for the positive, constructive direction to begin. Protecting children from unloving adults is a mission to build a life around.
Posted by:BernadetteMay 6, 2008 11:50:20 AMRespond ^
Maia, you are amazing. Thank you.

-Erin
www.erinsiegal.com
Posted by:Erin SiegalMay 6, 2008 10:26:36 PMRespond ^
I totally agree with the need to regulate these "treatment" facilities and get kids out of there. However, I have worked at many "regulated" treatment facilities that were by no means good but were not AS physcially and emotionally deplorable. I think this issue needs more rehabilation and therapy from loving compassion. Having worked in these places, I can say that it is not practical to have 24/7 hour access to a hotline. Of course it can be manipulated, but more importantly, how does this address the real issues? Trying to establish a safe environment is about systemic change, from within and out of the facility.
Posted by:samMay 7, 2008 4:46:48 AMRespond ^
A funny reflection of society...... Isn't this like the local police that we all take for granted?? When families and the community lose patience with children's erratic behavior they put them into the "system" Juvenile lockups and jails populated with criminals sadists and worse. Rapes, beatings, you name it, they have it there...... It is a school of sorts.....It teaches the worst.... OH now "private" contractors are cutting into their turf? In a morally corrupt society plain folks are stuck with the gov. "treatment" The "privileged" can pay for "better" in this case a better screwing..... Bags over the head, noose around neck....Isn't this the CURRENT prescription of OUR GOVERNMENT for those pesky troublemakers in OUR latest conquest?? AHH.........Yes This is GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED "treatment". The real question is, how long before we begin to hear reports of CHILDREN being waterboarded or having "things" forced up their rectums so as to "facilitate" them "taking responsibility for their "anti social behavior" You will not leave this place until you admit your guilt! This place is life in the anthill that America has become...
Posted by:A subscriber to M.J.May 12, 2008 8:33:31 AMRespond ^
It's a sick country - always has been and always will be as long as it is run by the puritans and their feudal capitalism with a heavy veneer of Old Testament religion (when it agrees with them at least). Too bad it wasn't founded on true Christian ideals - the teachings of Jesus instead of the non-Christian Old Testament - it might have actually become the country it has always pretended to be but isn't even close yet. We have moved to a much freer, happier country where as a same-sex couple we have the freedom to marry and have all the same rights as everyone else, where everyone has health care, where crime is a quarter of that in the "old country" - the US. We even have the right to travel to any country we want to without fear of prosecution. What a different and better life we would have had had we been born here instead of in the right-wing, intolerant, me-only, profit before principle US of A. No wonder the US has so many unhappy, desperate people and lost, wayward children. Your only presidential candidates are right-wing and extreme right-wing. No wonder so few people bother to vote.
Posted by:FreethinkerMay 16, 2008 8:07:35 AMRespond ^
Do not blindly send your child to a treatment center! Call an Educational Consultant!

check out www.thebodingroup.com

It's too bad that thousands of success stories do not get the same type of attention from the media or Ms. Szalavitz
Posted by:BrendaMay 17, 2008 5:05:04 PMRespond ^
This is not a good place to advertise, Brenda. Educational consultants have no required qualifications, the organization that promotes them does not police its members and many of them take kickbacks from the programs to which they send the children.

The "success" stories you claim are not credible because there is no control group and no screening of teens admitted to see that they actually have problems serious enough to require residential placement-- therefore most will get better by simple maturity.

You don't need a "medical consultant" to choose a medical treatment because you can look at the research literature and discover for yourself what works and what doesn't and because doctors are subject to malpractice prosecution if their practices don't meet the standard of care. There is no standard of care in these programs-- which claim to treat everything from Aspergers to addiction with the same regime. That's not possible!
Posted by:Maia SzalavitzMay 19, 2008 2:54:27 PMRespond ^
Thanks Maia for your bringing the unregulated industry, and the children who are being mistreated to light. So many people believe we have laws to protect our children.
Parents go to Dept of Education and Labor and veiw the meeting and Gao findings read for yourselves the testimony you will be shocked, and outraged.
Posted by:BunnieJune 3, 2008 6:40:49 PMRespond ^
Holy crow! Salient, thoughtful comment on the troubled parent industry from people we've never heard of.

By God, but the Fornits are happy today!

Sam, you seem like a decent sort. I've known many, many very decent, well intended human beings to spend more time and energy trying to improve the Program. B'live it! But I would ask you to contemplate Blackstone's Ratio for a mom... no, at least for an afternoon; "Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer".

One of the biggest troubles with the troubled parent industry is that it is coercive. Never underestimate the vital importance of volition. It is the difference between making love and rape; shelter and imprisonment, trade and larceny, suicide and murder.

Any kind of counseling or therapy involves some level of intimacy and trust. A therapeutic relationship is supposed to be based on trust. In fact I think that any healthy, mutually beneficial relationship must involve some level of trust. Coercion destroys trust.

If the kid (or adult) is not at all game for your 'help' then helping is not quite exactly what you're doing, all good and well appreciated intentions aside. Isolation from the outside world is a hallmark of both the Program, as we're discussing it in the context of this conversation, and also of abusive romantic entanglements. The Program tries to force the client to engage mentally and emotionally against their will by isolating them from other society of their own choosing while keeping the client in a state of high alert, physical, emotional and mental exhaustion and uncertainty. However dubious their chosen society may be in whoever's opinion or however objectively correct that opinion, this practice has come to be called 'mind rape' by program veterans and survivors. When the intended beneficiary of your 'help' has no choice, not only does it effect an entirely unwholesome psychological dynamic in the client, it also eliminates a vital natural check on excess. If they can't remove themselves or give any of the other many social cues to distress, you, as a 'counselor' don't get the social signals that would normally cue you in to let up.

If a program is actually helpful and nurturing, some kids will voluntarily accept your help. Even if 9/10 walk away and seek other options to find what they need, even if 5 of those 9 continue to strike out and ultimately fail, you still would be doing no harm and some good. As it stands (and I stand with a few thousand other program vets who have voiced their opinions) you are doing far more harm than good. Please seek other employment far outside of this field. Take some time in the more commonly accepted reality to think things over and then tell the jabberwoks to pound sand if they try to fallaciously enforce a confidentiality agreement.

FreeThinker, thank you! I do believe the Program is a market supply response to a growing demand. 30 years ago, the programs recruited from their own areas. Now they ship the ugly stuff off in the hills where the rents don't have to see what they're paying for. Most of the parents honestly don't understand how they've been manipulated into enforcing horrid demands onto their children. Buck is exactly right. Dr. Phool helps with that propaganda war. Sally Jesse Raphael was hawking the Program in the same manner many years ago. The DARE cop on your child's school campus does a nice little mind[deleted] on the kids. There are just too many influences to name. I want the Old Deal back, damn it!

Maia and St. Philip, thanks yet again for so adeptly practicing your crafts at bringing this issue closer to the fore or, as I like to say, dragging these sadistic lunatics out into the more commonly accepted reality.

I'll defer to you guys on the value of this new legal language to future legal strategy. Es no mi llob. I can tell you that, on the ground inside a program, there's little more demoralizing than seeing a sign on the wall promising a right to call an abuse hotline and knowing you'll be tackled to the floor by your peers and/or staff if you try to pick up the hand set.

From my point of view, I think we could make great hay just by posing questions to outside observers along the lines of:

So.... what bizarre circumstance could possibly precipitate the need for federal "provisions in the legislation [which] include a federal ban on `disciplinary techniques or other practices that involve the withholding of essential food, water, clothing, shelter, or medical care,' and on `acts of physical or mental abuse designed to humiliate, degrade, or undermine a child's self-respect.' "?

or

If I were to switch words like 'detention center' and 'detainee' for words like 'treatment program' and 'client' in federal regulation of war on Terra detainee/POW treatment, could you tell the difference?

In addition to calling your congresscritter, you might also check out the laws regarding recorded phone conversations and make those calls yourself. Contact almost anyone at http://wwf.fornits.com/ to share the resulting audio files. If you know someone who has sent their kid off to an emotional growth boarding school, wilderness therapy or other euphemistic sounding program, talk to them a little, see if you can write the kid a letter, pay a little more attention to the people in your life who you care about than our teachers, families and friends did for us.

Thanks for reading!
Ginger
Posted by:The FornitsJune 4, 2008 9:49:32 AMRespond ^
I'm still on the fence about this. Is regulation really a step in the right direction, or does it lend credibility to a completely ineffective and corrupt industry? Wouldn't this teach the industry to be sneakier, and as a result, more difficult to prosecute, in the long run?

I personally feel that the way to go at the industry as a whole is for fraud, not abuse, and that will get them shut down. (Because really, the goal here is to eradicate these facilities entirely.) Nobody really cares enough about child abuse, especially because it is based on testimony instead of numbers, to do anything significant about it. However, if it is spun that the poor vulnerable parents, who invested all this money, took out a second mortgage on their house, all for nothing, are the victims, that might raise some eyebrows.

It's a shame, because the real victims are the kids, but there aren't enough people in this country who care enough about that. Tough love is still up for debate in a lot of people's minds. However, stopping an industry that is bilking people out of a lot of cash could possibly be something that a lot of lawmakers will get behind.

I truly wish it could be the other way around, but the fact of the matter is, if you are under 18 in this country, you have very few rights, and not a whole lot of people really care enough to do anything about that. Especially if you are a "troubled" teen.

But everyone cares about money.
Posted by:JonathanJune 4, 2008 5:23:33 PMRespond ^
Because of the title, I was expecting the article to answer the question, "when does 'tough love' become torture?", which it did not, or at least not very clearly.

Nevertheless, Maia is a godsend for her journalism on this subject.
Posted by:anonJune 8, 2008 6:35:25 PMRespond ^
I think she meant that's what the regulation would determine, which is why I have a problem with regulation. Nothing good can come of tough love.
Posted by:JonathanJune 9, 2008 3:18:32 PMRespond ^
good points, jonathan. i was in one of the schools szalavitz talks about. what happens when you are a young person removed from everything familiar, cut off from the rest of the world in one of those hell holes is that it can start to seem normal. only years later did i find out that what went on in the school i was in was criminal. some of that was blatant denial of civil rights, like the right to send and receive mail and have writings remain private. other things were everyday gross child abuses that were normalized behind closed doors as 'the special privilege of the program' because of how bad we were and how much the program wanted to save us, if you catch my drift. and these child abuses were made secret by other teachings of the school, like 'confidentiality', and the systematic decimation of young people's feeling of any right to complain or even hurt or even know what they are feeling by the emotional abuse the school or program heaps on them regularly. i too despair, that regulation will actually serve to justify and legalize what is abusive, to 'clean it up' to the extent that, it still hurt and damages the kid, but folks can't have a reason for making it stop. call half the population 'cockroaches', and you can have a genocide (Rwanda). call a kid a 'druggie', or 'defiant', and you can berate and belittle him on national television.

still, i think george miller is acting out of sincere concern, which really is something.

Posted by:anonJune 10, 2008 9:43:56 AMRespond ^
I agree, I feel that Miller's intent is genuine, albeit misguided. We are a country of reformists, not revolutionaries, which, on the whole, is how I prefer to go about most things. We are also free market, which means that private companies have carte-blanche to take quite extensive liberties... so it's entirely possible that my fraud idea wouldn't work that well. (CEDU, where I went, filed for bankruptcy, after all, and they got bought and are back up and running. Granted, quite a different incarnation than from when I was there in the 80s, but still tough love, and still messed up.)

You hit the nail on the head as to the problems regarding regulation. Regulation relies on 1. complaints and testimony, and 2. Routine inspection. Both of which can be turned to paint the program in a favorable light. Like you, I didn't realize consciously that what I had been through was abusive and traumatic until a few years later. A lot of these kids don't realize until the statute of limitations runs out. (Which varies from state to state.) So how could we complain? As for regulation, parents have visited places as messed up as Tranquility Bay, and the WWASPS people there managed to make it look good for the visits. (And Inside Edition episode talked about that.) Surprise inspections would really be the only thing that could possibly show *some* places in their true light, but you could visit CEDU unannounced any day of the week and it would look like a ski lodge. Granted, all of the people cuddling with each other may look weird, but everyone seems to be smiling, so I guess its ok. You'd have to actually pull a surprise inspection on a rap or propheet to really see the kind of stuff that happened. And getting a kid to snitch to an inspector while they were still at the place? Forget it. Both you and I know what would happen to us if we did that.

No, unfortunately, the way to go at this industry is like killing the Andromeda strain... total annihilation, and everything must be hit at once.

Otherwise it just respawns somewhere else, as a new, initially unnoticeable mutation.
Posted by:JonathanJune 10, 2008 7:20:40 PMRespond ^
I attended the family foundation school from 2005-2006 and it still uses abuses practices, despite all the methods the administrations will use to justify this draconian form of schooling, it is our responsibility to see them shut down
Posted by:TimmyJune 17, 2008 9:40:55 AMRespond ^
Ginger,

Perhaps I was unclear, or it sort of sounds like you have never seen a residential treatment facility actually operate with the youth’s dignity in mind. I could be wrong. But to address your post, I would have to say that you may have good intentions on assuming to know me and my values, experience, and skills however, suggesting someone is decent only to tell them they need to quit their job because they are so detrimental to people’s health is presumptive, insulting, and irrational. Unless I was right with the above statement, and you really have never seen mentally ill teens come together as a community with a dedicated staff looking out for their welfare in action, then you may want to visit one sometime.

I will not address all of your comments, but I will touch on a few. Youth need advocates. They needed to feel trust, but they can not do so when they do not feel safe. In order to feel safe they need to know that staff and other residents are not going to harm them emotionally, physically, or otherwise. Limits are needed to feel safe in unfamiliar environments. The point I was making, albeit unclearly, was that if a youth is yelling that they will do harm in anyway to staff or residents, then limits need to be set. They may not understand this at first. Every effort to minimize punitive measures needs to take place for the integrity of each individual present. A youth threatening others, about to destroy property and/or harm others is a danger to themselves and others. Is this the time to call their youth advocate? If they ask appropriately and take time to cool down, then yes. If not, then boundaries are blurred and safety is in question. Do you think this is creating a safe environment? Have you dealt with situations such as these? Many policy makers do not step foot in the door and do not understand the issues at play. I have seen hard working, dedicated, wonderful staff (that had great relationships with the residents) forced out of their lively hood by people who have never stepped foot in a residential community, let alone work with anyone with a mental health issue.

I don’t mean to be rudimentary, but it is hard to understand that not all places are as deplorable as the ones in this article. I have worked in lock down facilities funded by on the state level. Residents are court ordered there for having been arrested for some crime. There are plenty of people on a power trip and it is sick. And yes, I left those places. I don’t say this to boast my ego, and I don’t say this to prove myself to you, but my motivation for working as honestly as I can has come from residents who have told me that I am the only one who actually “listens” to them. That is sad.

I am saddened by your response, because I don’t need a day, or an afternoon, or a few “mom…” (moments?) to figure out your quote. But thank you for the suggestion. If you have heart and are willing to learn and challenge yourself then you are perfect for a field working with people. I am glad you listened to all those former residents, they need to be heard. And I would never suggest, from my view of your bias, that you ever quit doing this. I would only challenge the way you have done it. Perhaps in the future when you run across someone you view as being “decent” you don’t try to determine the path they take on their personal journey… some may actually listen.
Thank you
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