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News: As former soldiers testified about wrongdoing on the battlefield, congressional Democrats scored a fleeting victory in the ongoing war funding fight.

May 16, 2008


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While members of Congress debated the terms of the $160 billion supplemental funding bill for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on Thursday, nearby, in a small conference room in the Rayburn office building, the Congressional Progressive Caucus heard testimony from soldiers who had been on the front lines of those fights.

Adding to testimony given by Iraq and Afghanistan vets during a four-day Winter Soldier conference in March, the panelists, members of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW), described wanton shootings, falsified after-action reports, and other misdeeds carried out by members of the US military on the battlefield. Underscoring just how marginalized anti-war voices remain on the Hill, congressional Democrats could only muster an unofficial hearing for these veterans, who were not sworn in under oath and whose comments will not be part of the congressional record.

"I saw and at times participated in the dehumanization and degradation of the Iraqi people," Kelly Dougherty, executive director of IVAW and a former MP in the Army National Guard, told the panel.

Former Marine Sergeant Jason Lemieux was even more explicit. "Throughout my three tours," he said, "I was present on numerous occasions when [we] were ordered by commissioned officers to shoot any Iraqi who seemed suspicious or made us feel uncomfortable with the assurance that the chain of command would 'take care of us.'"

Lemieux went on to describe a confrontation in Ramadi in early 2006 in which, after receiving four rounds of "poorly aimed" enemy fire, his unit fired back with thousands of rounds of ammunition and explosives into an area known to be occupied by civilians. Lemieux claims that his report of the incident was falsified by an executive officer, who changed it to suggest that the Marines were defending themselves from a much more serious attack.

Scott Ewing, a cavalry scout who served in Iraq between 2005 and 2006, described operations in Tal Afar, an Iraqi city that has been held up as a counterinsurgency success story. During his time there, he said, the arbitrary destruction of civilian property, random detainments, and killings of innocent civilians were commonplace. "From my personal experience in Tal Afar," he said "the number of Iraqis killed or injured by the armed forces far outnumber those killed by insurgents."

Despite the war's enduring unpopularity, IVAW members have yet to appear under oath before an official congressional committee. And the Progressive Caucus—with 72 members in the House, most of whom voted against last year's supplemental—has struggled to advance measures to force a withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

Nevertheless, Thursday's informal hearing coincided with a surprise—though momentary—victory for anti-war Democrats. Aided by congressional Republicans who sat out the war-funding vote in protest over being left out of the process of drafting the measure, they succeeded in voting down the $160 billion appropriation. Anti-war Democrats also succeeded in pushing through a measure that sets the goal of removing all combat troops from Iraq by December 2009. But hours later a Senate committee approved its own version of the war spending bill, and the withdrawal measure seems likely to be stripped out of the legislation before a final version is passed.

With no end in sight to the Iraq War, one IVAW member took matters into his own hands on Thursday. After the informal hearing, Sergeant Matthis Chiroux, whose more than four years of military service included a stint in Afghanistan, announced that he would refuse his orders to deploy to Iraq in June. "I hereby lawfully refuse to participate as I will surely be a party to war crimes," he said.

Photo by flickr user debdivya used under a Creative Commons license.

Brian Beutler is the Washington correspondent for the Media Consortium, a network of progressive media organizations, including Mother Jones.



 

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Is it any suprise? War has always been and will always be this way, unfortunately. It'sad to know that innocent people are getting killed because of a trigger happy platoon leader or soldier. I understand that being shot at would cause one self to shoot back in defense until that person is dead. Shooting back hundreds or thousands of rounds into an area that has civilians is just sad. If that happended in the U.S. we would do the same think Iraqis are doing. We'd get our guns and fight back. Until we leave it will not cease. WE are the enemy over there and all in the name of oil, er I mean "democracy".
Posted by:JMay 16, 2008 12:15:28 PMRespond ^
IMPORTANT NOTE TO EVERYONE READING ON THIS SITE:

Be SURE you read Sarah Posner's article, "Hagee's Lesson Plan for Bush's Appeasement Speech" on Huffingtonpost.com!!! Here's the link to it, which you should copy/paste to get this information into the MSM and public knowledge:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah -posner/hagees-lesson-plan-for-bu_b_102101.html

Bush's speech in Israel/ McCain's coordinated reaction (along with the sudden, unexplained resignation of CENTCOM Cmdr. Admiral Fallon---followed by total silence about WHY) is not just happenchance! Something is about to "come down", and this article may explain what!

I was listening to CSpan this a.m. when a young soldier called in re: a statement. In answer to the moderator's question about when she would be going back to Iraq and for how long, she replied (not a direct quote),----- "July, for 15-18 months, depending on how the air attack on Iran goes."

PLEASE! Read Posner's article and help spread the word!
Posted by:L. GravesMay 16, 2008 10:12:40 PMRespond ^
Thoughts from over the pond.
I would like to think that the people who care are in power right now, both in England and in America but being of sound mind and with a healthy disregard for all authority, I feel that those who we the people trust to serve us and do what's right are the "same old, same old" My country is eventually becoming what I call a velvet fascist state, and like America are hell bent on re-ruling the world. The descendants of all those who seized power over the centuries and became uber-rich in the process are never removed completely. I fear that this period in our existence has to endure the oncoming inevitable state of affairs that began [in my view] in earnest when J.F.K was assassinated. Post Second World War oligarchs became even more in control from that fateful period in history and it will be a bloody feud to remove all those who live in that realm of superpowerdom. Our children have been brainwashed for too long and each successive generation has succumbed to the power of the uber-rich and their minions.
History has shown that power and riches rule capitalism is fscism with a smile.
To attempt to come up with a solution to the problems we face will take more than politics or debate I'm affraid. We are destined to reap the seeds of ignorance and in-action we sewd a long time ago. I have no doubt that you will find my comments somewhat pessimistic I agree but, without fully understanding what will happen if there is a revolution in whatever form, we must recite our historical evidence and not allow humanity to fall into the same trap again or all the efforts and inevitable sacrifice will just the same as before, pointless.
I wish you Peace Love and Freedom
Om Mani Padme Hum
TOM O'ROURKE
Posted by:TOM O'ROURKEMay 17, 2008 6:48:00 AMRespond ^
I happened to be in the same unit as the guy who was in Tal Afar and I can honestly say that his experience, in the same town and at the same time, was significantly different than mine. When we arrived Tal Afar seemed like a ghost town during the day. By the time we left, I'd sit on top of our bldg and watch children play soccer in what was, a few months earlier, one of the most dangerous areas in Iraq. Quite a change for the positive. Commerce grew, and it appeared that the general population felt empowered by our presence.

I really don't want to say that this guy is grinding an axe, but there really isn't any other way to answer for the variance in what we each saw.

This sort of thing weakens your anti-Iraq movement.
Posted by:MikeMay 17, 2008 5:02:26 PMRespond ^
The war is a joke
Posted by:FrankMay 17, 2008 7:03:53 PMRespond ^
These guys are rats...Insurgents target the civilian population and American Soldiers are blamed. This is bull[deleted]! If there was any issues with actions they should have been brought up the chain or turned over to the Office of The Inspector General. This kind of crap where a soldier sits back and states "I was against it". If you are too weak to stand up then you are still a coward now. I am not one to say the Army is perfect. Far from it, but there are over 100,000 of us doing the right thing and if you are too weak to stand up and say something then, you too are the problem. Pussies
Posted by:US Soldier In IraqMay 19, 2008 6:21:24 AMRespond ^
The war is a joke
Posted by:FrankMay 17, 2008 7:03:53 PM

Joke huh? Over 4,000 American soldiers have died in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and its a joke? Its people like you who should go and fight for one day, put you life in another soldiers hands and his in yours. Tell me, why are you hiding under the blanket of protection which my brothers and sisters, in the military, have provided? Where have all the real men gone....oh yeah....they are in the military! COWARD!
Posted by:Brackney, Kevin M SGT USAMay 19, 2008 6:28:20 AMRespond ^
War has always caused sacrifice. World War 1, 2, the bloody Civil War, every war throughout history has seen unneeded violence. It's the way things are. if we let reporters into Germany and France in WWII the same outrage and anti war speeches would be all over. That's just too bad, but war is hell and humanity will just have to stomach it. Good people will die, along with the bad.
Blood will be shed.
We have an obligation over there. By we, I don't mean the government. I mean the PEOPLE. As humans, we should all be liberated, with freedom of expression and choice. Every country deserves liberty, DEMOCRACY, and if that costs a few lives, so be it.
It's for the best.
Deal with it.
Posted by:AnthonyMay 19, 2008 8:54:06 AMRespond ^
The war has gone on for what now, 5+ years, and they still haven't 'won' against what were basically unarmed civilians after Saddam's army was defeated, I say 'end it'. Then, when US troops are back on US soil, call forward the war profiteers, Halliburton, Blackwater, et. al. Bring em out, hold em to public account. War profiteering should be 20, 30 years in prison, if not a life sentence.
Posted by:BertMay 19, 2008 6:19:39 PMRespond ^
Well, here we go again-thousands orphaned by a bunch of teens who thought they 'wouldn't be involved in combat'!Just as Vietnam-Era children were refused a decent education,parents or even basic needs-thousands will go parentless by the War in Iraq!Will the Government take care of them?The Welfare Dept?Where?What about Army wives and girlfriends?Where do they end up?Will the Church take care of them?What about their parents?NO!
Posted by:SuzanneMay 31, 2008 8:34:38 AMRespond ^

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