Barbara Coe and Ron Rrince (above) co-founded California's Proposition 187, the "Save our State" initiative, which would deny education and health services to 2.1 million undocumented immigrants. They are cynical about getting it passed. "Anywhere from 25 percent to 50 percent of the people will go into the voting booth, read the title of the initiative, and make up their mind at that moment," Prince said. The measure is publicly tied to Gov. Pete Wilson, but Prince snapped off my tape recorder to say that Wilson is a phony on illegal immigration, only supporting the measure when it became clear he needed to move to the right. Recorder back on: "We're very confident in Wilson and are glad he's supporting our initiative." We never officially went off the record, so too bad, Ron.