Trial by Fury
After the revelations about prisoner abuse and flimsy terrorism cases, is it time to reconsider the fate of John Walker Lindh?
According to the defense document, Lindh talked to CNN after emerging from the basement "wounded, starved, frozen, and exhausted," while a medic worked on him and doped him up on morphine. As they interrogated him over five or six days, U.S. forces left the bullet in Lindh's leg, kept him blindfolded, gave him little food, and "taunted [him] with derogatory epithets." At one point, U.S. soldiers came into Lindhs room and posed with him, scrawling "shithead" on his blindfold, the defense document stated. The soldiers told him he was "going to hang," with one saying hed like to shoot him on the spot. By the time he finally sat across from an FBI agent, Lindh had been stripped naked, taped to a stretcher, and kept in a cold, windowless shipping container for days. The New Yorker quoted a Navy doctor describing Lindh as "disoriented...suffering lack of nourishment...suicide is a concern."
The government maintained that Lindh was treated well, countering in a court filing that "Lindh had to take extraordinary measures to insert himself into this war and he should not now be heard to complain that life on the battlefield was unpleasant." They also said that Lindh was "meticulously tended to" and "ultimately returned unharmed, healthy, and strong to the country he had forsaken."
Beyond physical abuse, the defense claimed Lindh was denied his right to a lawyer. Military personnel did not read him his Miranda rights during initial interrogations -- the government claimed an exception because he was captured on a field of war. During his crucial interview with the FBI, however, the government said it did inform Lindh of his rights. But his defense team claimed he was also told, "Of course, there are no lawyers here," and he wasnt informed his parents had hired counsel for him. Even if Lindh were told of his right against self-incrimination, his confession to the FBI should have been tossed, asserts criminal-procedure expert Yale Kamisar of the University of Michigan Law School. His treatment at the hands of the Northern Alliance and U.S. soldiers leading up to the interrogation mattered as much as anything the FBI did later. "Because of the incredible ordeal he went through, they had to do more than give the standard warnings," Kamisar says.
"We had some very interesting issues there," Brosnahan says. "Its hard to describe how much we wanted to try this case as lawyers." Brosnahan was planning to put Lindh on the stand at the suppression hearing, and "he was not going to be what America had been led to believe." Lindhs devotion to Islam began when he saw Malcolm X as a young teenager and was captivated by the scene of a pilgrimage to Mecca. Many profiles have focused on his obsession with hip-hop and his allegedly anti-American sentiments, but in Brosnahan's telling he was a devout, bookish kid with a "very high IQ" and a decided naivete. "He thought you read books and the world would kind of be like that," Brosnahan says. "Hes not a hater. He had no interest in fighting Americans. What he was, was a convert to Islam."
The defense won an important point when U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III indicated that he would likely allow them to interview witnesses at Guantanamo who might back up Lindh's version of events and undercut the terrorism charges. Otherwise, however, the defense's prospects did not look good. The government had brought the case in Alexandria, Virginia; jurors could likely be government, even Pentagon, employees. Judge Ellis, courtroom observers say, showed little sympathy for the defense's arguments. Lindh's lawyers faced an extremely high legal hurdle to prove that he hadnt made his statements freely. If they lost, they would be left to try their hand with the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, the most conservative in the country.
The national political climate made proceeding to trial highly risky. Patrick Brown was a defense lawyer in another high-profile terrorism case in Lackawanna, New York, in which a group of men -- initially described as a terrorist cell -- had spent time in an Al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan. (See "Living in an Age of Fire," March/April 2003.) Brown, who says his client did not intend to train as a terrorist and left early, notes that such cases have few legal precedents, and the national mood "had a chilling effect on the ability of the client to say, 'Lets test all this.'" Brown says he's now "embarrassed to be associated with" the Lackawanna case because "we basically buckled." His client took a plea of eight years for providing material support to Al Qaeda.
When Lindh's team conducted a survey to gauge the potential pool of jurors, "I'd never seen that level of animosity," Brosnahan says. His attorneys would have to explain why he ended up at a training camp that was associated with bin Laden, and later joined Taliban fighters, and carried grenades. "Its hard to imagine an innocent explanation for that," says Katherine Darmer, a professor at Chapman University School of Law who's written about the Lindh case. Brosnahan says Lindh "felt he was defending Islam" and went to a military -- not terrorist -- training camp. He joined the Taliban army, and was never a member of Al Qaeda. But at the time, distinctions about the enemy were barely on the radar. "In the eyes of many U.S. soldiers and lower-ranking intelligence agents, this was all one war," notes Doug Cassel, director of the Center for International Human Rights at Northwestern University Law School. "Taliban, Al Qaeda, whats the difference? Well, the difference was enormous."
On the eve of what promised to be a dramatic showdown in court on the admissibility of Lindh's statements, Brosnahan says a government lawyer approached him about a deal. The two sides negotiated in marathon sessions until Brosnahan visited Lindh in jail on a Sunday after midnight to finalize the agreement. While reports at the time said even Judge Ellis was surprised that a deal had been struck, both sides had ample motivation. Lindh faced three counts each calling for a life sentence. Brosnahan had been holding out hope that the jury would include one or two parents of teenagers who would understand the trouble they can get into, but "there are realities. There would be a jury called in that district, and the judge would be the judge." And, Brosnahan says, the defense was told that even if Lindh won an acquittal, he could still be named an enemy combatant and held indefinitely. For the governments part, striking a deal would mean that the defense wouldn't interview witnesses at Guantanamo, nor would it introduce potentially embarrassing testimony about Lindhs treatment at the hands of U.S. interrogators. (The U.S. Attorney who handled the case declined to speak to Mother Jones.)
At the time, a 20-year sentence for the American Taliban seemed almost cushy. "Because the administration had puffed up this case so much when it brought it, it was forced to seek a very harsh sentence," says terrorism expert David Cole, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center. The terrorism charges were dropped, and Lindh pled guilty to providing services to the Taliban and possessing explosives while committing that felony. "Our goal, frankly, was to give him some kind of future in the chaos," a chance at release while he was still in his 30s, Brosnahan told Newsweek at the time. Lindh had to stipulate that he was not "intentionally" mistreated by the military -- language that, through the lens of Abu Ghraib, takes on new significance. The plea also contained the unusual provision that, for the rest of his life, the government could summarily designate Lindh an enemy combatant if it found he engaged in terrorism-related activities.
Although John may have misdirected his efforts by siding with his racial unequals, both have taken on the challenge of fighting zionism and the communist talmundic tyranny that is sweeping the world. The battle will be joined here in the kwa as well very soon. And JWL will be free.
In “Trial by Fury article” , Lindh deserved a re-trail, “ Lindh claims that he told Reimann that he condemned the attacks on America, arguing that they violated the word
of Koran. Reimann’s cable says that Lindh “ did not express his opinion about the
attacks ” (14). Rohan Gunaratna who was a respected terrorism scholar, interviewed Lindh
that he had never been a terrorist, and he never wanted to be a terrorist. However, John
Walker Lindh had never did that. He was only trained to fight against other soldiers.
Obviously, Lindh was not belonging to the member of Al Qaeda. He did not know much
about Al Qaeda. Gunaratna believed that Lindh had no national- security threat to United
States of America. However, Lindh had known that H.U.M. was not the Islam organization,
and he knew that H.U.M. was the political extremist terrorist organization, so that Lindh
was withdrew from this organization. Lindh told Gunaratna , “ I said, ‘No, I’m not
interested in that.’ He said, would you be interested in U.S. or Israeli target ?’ I said,
I came to Afghanistan to fight against the Northern Alliance. I am not interested in fighting
against other countries”(7). Lindh had known that he had made an awareness determination to do these things which were involved in terrorism. Therefore, Lindh had been quit to
participate the Kashmir camp. F.B.I.’s interrogation of Lindh was legal because “ the
subject here is entitled to choose his own lawyer, and to our knowledge, has not chosen a
lawyer at this time”(15). Clearly, Lindh’s attorneys complained that the U.S. officials could
not detain people without evidence, who made an allegations. If the U.S. officials had no
evidence, they might dropped the charges. The only problem was easy to destroyed some
people’s life in that kind of process. Rohan Gunaratna thought that Lindh’s prosecution
was distorted by some of American officials’ poor understanding of difference between
impassioned Muslims and Al Qaeda terrorists. Soon after, the U.S. Supreme Court finally
ruled that such prisoner of Lindh, who could not be detained indefinitely without the
chance to challenge his standing. At last, the U.S. Justice Department was a decision to
re- trial Lindh, John Walker. As the result, we heard from the CNN news, which the
U.S. Supreme Court was prosecuted Lindh, John Walker ,who was faced 10 charges,
and he was guilty in jail for his whole life, which was included conspiring to kill Americans and providing service to Al Qaeda terrorist organization.
So, this man took up arms against the American Republic, stood to be counted with a Terrorist Oraganization, and bleeding heart liberals want to talk about how JWL rights were violated? The man should have never left the country. Treason used to be a serious offense. THIS MAN IS A TERRORIST, AND DESERVES DEATH BY FIRING SQUAD FOR THE ROLE IN HE PLAYED AS PART OF AL-QAIDA! Enough with the politically correct, mis directed intentions, oh poor guy attitude. If justice was truly served, he never would have left Afghanistan.
Mercy can be given to John only when he and his family realize the seriousness of his crime. The fact that he's a good and spiritual boy is irrelavent.
Our government can tolerate just about anything, except a threat to its stability and ongoing struggle to be a society that lives by the law. Laws that make violent solutions to problems unnecessary.
John's intentions while of some legal concern are not the primary issue in his "rehabilitation."
Arguing that others have not been treated as harshly is an empty point of view because "traitor" has always carried the harshest penalties.
His sympathy and continuing aid and comfort to those forces that are currently the world's greatest problem, should prohibit commutation of his sentence.
Unless he and his family publicly acknowledge a sincere reversal of attitude and a realization of the seriousness of the crime, John remains a threat to society and an intolerable example to us all.
I love the earth, yoga, hippies, and I just adore my emotions - I base everything on them. I hate science, technology, money, and showers. Peace to everyone!
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