Going After the Con-man-der in Chief
Forget impeachment. What if the president were indicted for scamming the nation?
What do George W. Bush, Jeffrey Skilling, and the guy who sold some Florida swampland to your grandma have in common? According to Elizabeth de la Vega, theyre all scam artists who deserve to have the book thrown at them. For de la Vega, who spent more than 20 years as a federal prosecutor, thats not just a cheap shot at Bush, its her considered legal opinion. In her new book, United States v. George W. Bush et al., she argues that in snookering us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, the president wasnt simply guilty of dishonesty or incompetence, but guilty of fraud.
This isnt another pro-impeachment tome, but rather a novel take on how Bush pulled off perhaps the greatest political bait-and-switch in our history. De la Vega lays out her case as the transcript of a hypothetical federal grand jury proceeding, where a prosecutor introduces an indictment against Bush (and co-conspirators Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice, and Colin Powell) for defrauding the United States through deceit, craft, trickery, dishonest means, and fraudulent representations, including lies, half-truths, material omissions, and statements made with reckless indifference to their truth or falsity. Though not exactly Law and Order, its a remarkably snappy read, punctuated by banter with jurors and presented with a "just the facts" tone that makes it clear that de la Vega sees this as a serious matter of law, not a Bush-bashers daydream.
The particulars of the case will be familiar to anyone whos followed the unraveling of the White Houses pitch for invading Iraq (no WMDs, no Saddam-Al Qaeda link, etc.). But the legal lens through which de la Vega asks us to view these facts is unique. As her fictional prosecutor tells the jurors, We may be increasingly accustomed to public officials deceiving us, but it is still the law of the United States that once politicians become Executive Branch officials, they are legally required to be honest and forthright about public matters. This simple idea may seem unfamiliar at firstIts a crime for our public servants to lie to us?but once its implications sink in, the impunity still enjoyed by the administration is all the more perplexing.
De la Vega emphasizes that her book is about accountability, a principle rooted in her career as an assistant U.S. attorney. Its not about vengeance, she explains. I really hate the idea of people who are powerful taking advantage of people who are powerless. But I also think it is possible to get redress. I still have this faith that there is a way to get information out there in a rational format that will make a difference.
Excerpts from United States v. George W. Bush, including its hypothetical indictment, have appeared at TomDispatch.com. De la Vega spoke with MotherJones.com by telephone from her home in Northern California.
MotherJones.com: How did you get the idea of charging George W. Bush with fraud?
Elizabeth de la Vega: Ive worked on a lot of fraud cases over the course of my career. In particular, I was working on one in 2003 and 2004 that involved elderly people who were defrauded in an investment scheme. So I was refamiliarizing myself with the law of fraud and I realized that many of the precepts that applied to everyday fraud cases were applicable to what the president was doing. I couldnt do it while I was still an assistant U.S. attorney, but in the back of my mind I thought, This is a project I really need to do.
MJ.com: Howd you go about trying to build this hypothetical case?
I started doing the research for the book when I was writing an article for The Nation, The White House Criminal Conspiracy. It was fairly obsessive-compulsive, actually. I read every single speech by the president I could find on the White House website. But I also went through the entire Department of State website and the Department of Defense website. I poured over the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report, the Conyers report, the Robb-Silberman report, the 9/11 Report. And of course I read all these different books, like the Woodward bookI probably read 15 of those. A lot of whats in those books cant be used as evidence. Like Woodwards books, for examplevery little of it can be used since its not attributed to anybody. I was very careful not to use anything that wasnt corroborated or attributed to an actual person. I used the same kind of standards Id use in a criminal case. And I did what I always did with any case of any complexity: I put all of the information I could find in a timeline. So I made this humongous timeline. There were piles of things all over my house.
MJ.com: After assembling all this evidence, what laws did you think you could confidently accuse the White House of breaking?
EDV: There were many, but the main one is conspiracy to defraud the United States. That is Title 18, United States Code section 371. Its a very old statute. The statue itself is really very simple: It says its against the law to conspire to defraud the United States. There are several very old cases where they define what that means. The statute is used a lot against defense contractors who present false information to get overpayments on their contracts. But it was also used against some defendants in Watergate and Iran-Contra. It seems kind of like a vague statute, but its actually very simpleit means using deceit of any kind in order to impair the function of a government agency. In this case, the deceit was the broad pattern of deception that the administration directed towards the public and Congress.
MJ.com: So Bush made up his mind that he wanted to invade Iraq and then misled the public and Congress so he could get what he wanted. Not to be cynical, but isnt that what elected officials do all the timedeciding what they want to do and then getting it done by any means necessary? If you take the standard youre applying in this case, doesnt that mean that elected officials are breaking this law all the time? Applied rigorously, this law is being broken left and right.
EDV: It probably is. But when you look at any possible criminal case, you really have to look just at the one youre looking at. The fact that other people may have committed other crimes really has no affect on it. But it doesnt make it OK. You can think of it like a murder case: You can say, Well, other people have committed murder. But the reason I think it is imperative that we look at this one is because the consequences have been so dire. They have affected everything else in this country. This is such an egregious example. And its so egregious not just in the harm done but in the conduct. They set up the White House Iraq Group specifically to do this deceit; they even admitted it, really. We know they set about to do this persuasion and we know they did in fact deceive. So there you have concerted action.
MJ.com: At one point in your book, the assistant U.S. attorney explains, Whether Bush et al. committed a crime in misrepresenting the prewar intelligence on Iraq is not a question of lying; its a question of whether they committed fraud. Can you explain the distinction?
EDV: The reason I made that distinction is that a lot of people are really confused. They dont believe that Bush lied because they believe he didnt know anything. They dont think that he had enough information to lie. Fraud is much broader than just lying. Say for example, the president made these statements about the aluminum tubes, but he had not really looked into any of the underlying information. Well, thats fraud, because you cant go out as the president of the United States and make an assertion that you know people will rely on when you havent looked into the underlying information.
MJ.com: So essentially, as an elected official or the president, you have an obligation to do due diligence.
EDV: Exactly.
MJ.com: And having done that due diligence, if you find anything contradictory, youre obligated to acknowledge that publicly.
EDV: Right. Obviously, there are times when the president doesnt have to say everything to the public; Im not saying that. But when he takes it upon himself to persuade the public of a case, hes affirmatively decided to make representations about a topic. He has to have actually looked into it. But people dont have any expectations of the president anymore. Its really important to understand that this idea that politicians can lie is totally false. Its not what the law says. The law requires the president and our elected officials to follow all the laws of the United States, including those relating to fraud.
MJ.com: Not to harp on it, but thats such an interesting concept
EDV: Following the law? [laughs]
MJ.com: Well, it really is. Clearly, the political will is not there to pursue cases like this. But I have never heard this concept raised before. People talk of impeachment or throwing the bums out, but you never hear about criminally trying elected officials for not living up to their word.
EDV: Im not saying somebody should right go out and indict the president. What I am saying, though, is that people should be aware that in criminal law the standard for an indictment is probable cause. Here we have far more than probable cause to know [the administration] violated the law. We are entitled to expect that our elected officials follow the law, just as we are entitled to expect our corporate officials to follow the law. Its almost as if we are a battered countrya bunch of victims who are just so beaten down that we dont insist on what were entitled to get.
MJ.com: When youre a U.S. attorney, you have to anticipate how a defendant will respond to your charges. How do you think the administration would respond to a case like thisassuming they dont claim executive privilege and stonewall you for three years?
EDV: Their response, I think, would be the same kind of defenses theyve made all alongthat they made a mistake, that they believed there were weapons of mass destruction. As I explain in the book, the law says that it doesnt matter what you believe if you try to deceive people along the way to get them to go along with what you believe. Thats not a defense. Many times with investment frauds, the people doing the defrauding convince themselves that this is going to work out in the end. Theres a lot of self-deception on the part of those who commit the fraud in the first place.
MJ.com: That raises an interesting point. Im curious if the administration handled itself in a way thats characteristic of fraudsters?
EDV: Its precisely the same. Their main focus was to persuade people who already trusted them and liked them, which is what people who commit fraud do all the time; they focus on people in their church or their neighbors and they take advantage of that relationship. They also tried to quash any objections or dissent in very personal ways; they did not respond to conflicting information or attacked whoever was making the statement. Thats actually a classic sales technique. When people are selling an investment, for example, and somebody says, I want to talk to somebody else about it, [the fraudster will] say, Well, you can make your own decisions. Its a way to squelch any discussion. [The White House] even went further by accusing anyone who questioned them of being treasonous or not supporting the troops. Another thing is shifting rationales, thats another classic tactic. But self-deception is key. More and more, they began to talk themselves into the validity of what they were saying.
MJ.com: You dont mention impeachment at all in this book. Why is that?
EDV: I think people are so confused about what impeachment really means. Its simply a process of investigation. I didnt want to get off on that track because it confuses people. My goal in writing this book is to just make it clear that what the president and his staff have done is, on one hand, a horrific crime, but on the other hand, its an everyday kind of crime.
MJ.com: Is there something frustrating or depressing in putting together a case that, realistically, is a non-starter?
EDV: No, thats not depressing to me. I dont think its a non-starter that there will be hearings. It would be very depressing if we didnt have hearings. Not just to hold people accountable; we need to get to the truth of what happened in Iraq in order to get out. The president is still making the same claims. He was, as of yesterday, still failing to acknowledge the true nature of whats going on in Iraq. Hes still talking about Al Qaeda fomenting this violence. If we were in a trial, by this point the opposing counsel would be able to stand up and say, Objectionassumes facts not in evidence. And we wouldn't even be talking about this anymore. Id like the public to have the same reaction. Every time they hear Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, they should be thinking, Wrong! Its not something people should be polite about anymore. Were way past that point.
I will totally be buying this book!!
Thank you for your perspective!!
Did Bush think that his "faith" allowed him to create immoral acts: starting a war, killing innocent people. This is considered a disposition to evil when no cause exists. He should be put on trial, of course. A great idea.
Would be interested in hearing comments about "If Members of Congress refuse to support impeachment or prosecution, could the be prosecuted for malfeasance?" Legislative immunity is not absolute, especially when it is abused, and the oath of office is not asserted as it should be. Of course the President and VP should be investigated. The question is whehther the Federal Government or the State-local officials are going to fully defend the Consttitution. The SUpreme Law doesn'g disappear because everyone agrees to ignore it. The GOP Elephant has no defense. Prosecute them.
mr. bush has lived his whole life,one con after another. Everything he has ever done is a lie,fraud or con-game.He fooled me.



























