Conspiracy Watch: Bill and Hill's Thrill Kill

From the January/February 2008 issue.

—Illustration: Peter Hoey

THE CONSPIRACY: Over the years, Bill and Hillary Clinton have knocked off dozens of people who have stood in their way. The trail of mayhem was uncovered in 1993, when a right-wing group called the American Justice Federation compiled "Coincidence or the Kiss of Death?" It listed 21 Clinton colleagues and acquaintances who had died "mysteriously" in what appeared to be run-of-the-mill heart attacks, suicides, and plane crashes. The "Clinton Body Count" became an Internet phenomenon, but died off after they left the White House. When Hillary announced her presidential bid last January, an expanded version of the body count started making the rounds. Could this be why Barack Obama requested protection from the Secret Service months before candidates usually do?


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THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS: There's speculation that rival political operatives have revived the list. It's also received a nod from conservative commentators such as Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter, who quipped, "If you attack the Clintons publicly, make sure all your friends know that you are not planning suicide."

MEANWHILE, BACK ON EARTH: As we went to press, Coulter had not yet offed herself.

Kookiness Rating: tin foil hattin foil hattin foil hattin foil hattin foil hat (1=maybe they're on to something, 5=break out the tinfoil hat!)

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bUT IT IS SO DAMN BELIEVABLE.

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I second the motion for the nomination of Ann Coulter as the next Arkancide.

Sean Hannity can follow. Then Rush.

Do I hear any objections?

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Please. You're getting scared as the questions of experience capability come into play and you realize that Obama is a 'Boy Scout', however honorable, and cannot possibly handle the job of President of the United States.

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yeah, couldn't have anything to do with his being Black. More interestingly at several Obam events I attended in the summer he seemed to have a disproportionate number of Black secret service agents on his detail. Deliberate?

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I hope you know that one day you will meet your maker. With so much hatred in your heart for the Clintons and fabricated accusations you are certain to go to hell.
I believe Obama as a black man did the right think seeking protection early.

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I love the tinfoil hat thing, that's awesome.

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There is only one thing worse than having nothing better to do with your time than write stupid crap - and that is having nothing better to do with your time than to read the stupid crap stupid people write.

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why would you put something like thos on you site?

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I've had my tin foil hat on since the Repukes took office. lol Hey, what's the uproar? I thought this was tongue-in-cheek. The replies confused me...who's "going to hell?" Why the "why would you put this on your site?"

Did you people lose your tin foil hats again?

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Hey, calm down. It's called satire, folks.
And pretty funny at that!

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By Leigh Ferrara

January/February 2008 Issue
You are an ill person filled with hatred, you know this is not true! Go to snoops.com people and check this out. False.

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What in the world are doing this hatchet job for? [deleted] off this is yellow journalism and here I thought better of Mother Jones ti be fair and balanced , Once again [deleted] off.

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Jury, did you intend "snopes.com"?
==>http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

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the hat's great for DXing WLW.

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How many inarticulate, half literate people are going to glance at the headline, assume it's an article saying Hill & Bill ARE killing people--and not the tongue-in-cheek piece it is--and drop a little ill-informed vitriol in the comments section? Seriously, how many? How freaking stupid can people be, FFS?!

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I find your posting this crazy conspiracy theory just to debunk it irresponsible and bordering on slander. Shame on you, MoJo!

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too many. and apparently they don't have the cutting edge technology of spell check yet either.

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You should at least give equal time to the Bush Body Count:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_body_count.htm

And if Obama is the Democratic nominee, there will soon be one for him, as well.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

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"run-of-the-mill heart attacks, suicides, and plane crashes"?
Poor Ron Brown's 'plane crash' somehow netted him a bullet hole in his head!

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I am a long time MJ suscriber. I'm extremely disappointed with the Hillary bashing being displayed by MJ.

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It seems no one remembers that mostly democrats are being killed or assassinated. Democrats were targeted with the anthrax scare. I think GHW Bush had something to do with the shooting of Ronald Reagan

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"Coincidence or the Kiss of Death"

It seems Linda Thompson connected with Coridon Hinshaw, a "conspiracy locator" from the standpoint of the Left and skeptics.
Hinshaw took up cases in which he thought protest activists against various religious organizations were unjustly prosecuted.
Linda Thompson sought out the histories of 21 deaths of people connected with the Clinton administration, mainly bodyguards
and military police types. Some kind of military operation (not in any battle zone) was involved in details of people cited and the military operations
led to or were involved in accidents. I would caution any reporter looking for military accidents connected to one hypothesis to survey all of the military accidents in that period. Included withinn that caution is to ascertain how much of the total are classified information and might be totally secret. Similarly I would advise investigation of all reports of people or personnel in the periphery of Washington at that time to see if there were any real statistical significance to the cases mentioned. One should be reminded
of the statistical prevalence of suicide, homicide as well as heart attacks in that contest happening within that period.
Presently I am not interested in doing this research myself. With regard to the Waco aspects, the matter
was thoroughly investigated and the results were that while some involved were trigger-happy there was no purposeful
intent to destroy or incinerate the Waco compound. However, many reforms of strategy and tactics were instituted that led to peaceful resolution of later incidents.

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Unfortunately, I don't have a candidate yet. But in all fairness, I expect more from Mother Jones than this hyped satirical Clinton slash. Some people (as in most people) will take this piece seriously -- and that's when it gets dangerous. You can do better than this - I've seen it!

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The more improbable something appears at first the most likely it is to be true.
First lets get rid of this republican vs democrat game nonsense. Samew coin different sdies, same pants different legs. Hillary might as well be geo bush. elitist bilderberger kill poor people for profits in the pocket of multinational power structure all of them., obama is a us senator for god's sake, he is bought and sold and controloled just like every other ohne of those hypocritical lying worthless pieces of crap. we need a frenchy style revolution here, defenestrate the congress, sup ct and senate and lop of the heads of the worst of the bunch

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Don't any of you respondents have a spell checker?
Meanwhile here on Super Tuesday, Snopes.com is overwhelmed with people seeking info on the politicians and such. So keep your tinfoil hats on for now. Tomorrow's a better and brighter day.

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Leave it to the new Mother Jones to act as the "left *gatekeeper" (*something put there to monitor the actions of others - in this case us, informed and caring citizens who demand integrity of our government) and quell the revival of the Clinton knock-off list. tee-hee - haha - another tinfoil hat conspiracy theory! Well, do your research folks. The Clintons are well-connected and an integral part of the plan to usher in fascism through the Democratic party (as in Germany, so history repeats). They are closely connected to the Bush mafia, as well. The Clintons play the other side of the Repubs vs. Demos false charade. But Mother Jones as it is configured right now, receiving a lot of its money from billionaire foundations and some of its journalists from the CIA, is not likely to affirm that the Clintons have used these mafia techniques to hide their crimes. No, and thinking Americans like myself will continue to be marginalized by use of this garbage, starting from the misleading "liberal vs. conservative" show-fight which prevents 99% of the truth from reaching the American public. If you at Mother Jones were conscientious and courageous journalists then why not research this "hit list" and report back on your investigation with specifics? Like sean Hannity, you can't answer to "conspiracy theories" that are too hot for the powers that be to handle, so you use the same childish technique to evade and avoid your investigative duty. The first act of a true investigator is to chase down the trail of a key clue - of an alarming illogic. All those people who knew firsthand about the Clintons' criminal enterprises just died "accidentally"? Just like the witnesses to the Kennedy assassination all dead and gone within 3 years? This list begs investigation, not FOX News-style ridicule and their usual positioning of anyone who comes up feeling suspicious of the facts before them, as "wacko". Shame on you once again "Mother Jones" news - you don't deserve to use her name!

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this man is 1000 persent correct about abolishing this froad called government.

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to quote Mikey: "There is only one thing worse than having nothing better to do with your time than write stupid crap - and that is having nothing better to do with your time than to read the stupid crap stupid people write."
A - M E N !!!

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I support Hillary Clinton 100%, since Edwards dropped out of the race.
This article makes me question Mother Jones as a credible New source.
Women make up 50% of the pop. of Every Race. What the hell is taking so long?!!!

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Brain Washed much?

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OK, I get that this is satire (although not very good satire) and I don't believe the Clinton conspiracy theories. But I find this little squib GROTESQUE for another reason--the fact that it asks (in an apparent effort to be funny): "Could this be why Barack Obama requested protection from the Secret Service months before candidates usually do?" Does no one at Mother Jones remember seeing Martin Luther King lying in his own blood on a motel balcony in Memphis? Did you think that was amusing? And then, a rew months later, remember Bobby Kennedy dying on the floor of a hotel in Los Angeles? That was a real laugh riot, wasn't it? It's obvious why Obama needs extra security, and it's nothing to joke about. Just wait until some racist or some nut takes a shot at him, and you'll see how long this pathetic attempt at humor stays up on this web site after that.

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I was disappointed to see MoJo issue an article with this title-- one that led the e-mail subject line too-- making it seem like this extremist view is their stance. The second disingenuous thing was to then decry it. Why is this conspiracy theory relevant, and if one can argue it is, why not a focused inquiry into it, instead of this sensationalized dreck?

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Another load of bovine excrement.

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People who write about ideas such as this and the readers who believe their bologna truly need to get their heads checked and support the argument that people will believe almost anything especially when their political view points are added into the picture. To all of the people who belive this article you really do need to get a life.

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People who write about ideas such as this and the readers who believe their bologna truly need to get their heads checked and support the argument that people will believe almost anything especially when their political view points are added into the picture. To all of the people who believe this article you really do need to get a life.

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Scott's response is the only one, I repeat the only one, that speaks to the truth of what needs to be done. Check every other response written here. Every one of those responses is written by someone who is "asleep." The most difficult thing in life is not to admit to being asleep, it is to recognize first that your colleagues are asleep -- then and only then will it dawn on you that you suffer from the same dis-ease -- and the U.S. machine functions at its best because there is only one Scott amongst so so many sleepers. Conspiracy notions are simply the intuition's way of knocking on the door of consciousness.

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This nonsense about the Clinton's is very old news. Its quite a reach backwards. Although satire doesn't have to be current. Fresh is always better. Why not draw from the nonsense that Hillary said something wrong about MLK and LBJ. I do believe that's been fact checked to the hilt. It used to be you'd get taken to task for saying negative things, is it the new way to get bashed for saying truthful good things? The real Mother Jones wouldn't put up with such nonsense.

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Your website sucks. Looking at the pictures of the arctic village, there is no "nex" or "back" button so one has to go back to the tile page and click each picture. In the Clinton hit list article above there is NO LIST. What a poorly laid out excuse of a website. Too bad, such a great magazine too. Let me guess, you have a young 'intern' doing the coding?

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Experience is what we dont want, the no how to accept money from lobbyists, the corporations that need to have there favors returned.

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Leigh, did you really write this article? It seems crazy! The Clinton's prescibed tons of murders? I've never heard you mention this. Call me. What is this article really about?

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