Grappling With Gitmo

I'm sick of the Bush bashing. You liberals act like all the bad things that ever happens is the folt of this president. History will show that the Bush Era of demicracy was the best of times for America. The only way to keep this country safe is to elect a solid conservative.
As for the auto industry, the American Way is to drive what you want to drive. If Americans want SUV's then let the auto industry build SUVs. Tom Delay was right when he said that the liberals would ruin this country through the over regulation of industry. The myth of global warming will be the excuse to destroy the free market system in the name of the economy system of marxism.

re: deane

As much as I'm sure that you think terrorists hate America because of our freedom, what do you imagine is going to happen to the 515 people who were rounded up as possible terrorists, held indefinitely without charges, tortured (at least some have been tortured as backed up by our government's own employees), and then released with a "Sorry, our mistake"? Do you think they might have a reason better than "Freedom" to hate us now? Do you think they will be more dangerous than ever?

I agree that there are some things blamed on the President that he could not have avoided (like the financial crisis, which was a failure of our government as a whole), but Gitmo is a failure at the Executive level and people need to be held accountable. Even discounting our 515 new enemies, consider the danger this puts our own troops in. By deciding that our actions were ungovernable by Geneva Conventions, we have given the green light to other countries to do the same. Now we must choose between identifying those accountable for these conditions (all the way up the chain to the top if the facts support such a finding) and punishing them ourselves, or waiting for the International Court to do the same.

Also, hate to break it to you, but Americans don't want SUVs anymore. If you don't believe me, take yours to a used car dealer and find out how much he'll give you for it. At this point, you could buy a 2007 Escalade for less than you would still owe on it if you bought it new and had been making payments on a 72 mo. schedule.

Also, why are you complaining about regulation? We just made it through 8 years of deregulation and look at how well that has been turning out for everybody. Just wait until oil gets so expensive that we can't afford to ship in the goods that we've been outsourcing the production of. Then it's really gonna hurt.

“Delilah therefore took new ropes and bound him therewith and said unto him, ‘The Philistines be upon thee, Samson.’” [Judges 16:12] It was a lie but so what. She only pretended to love him, then used both him and the Philistines to enrich herself. Not caring that he be humiliated in the world. Not caring that the Philistines be destroyed. Not caring how much of his blood would be shed, even unto his blindness and death, as long as she got what she wanted.
If our country, these United States of America, is a Samson in the world, then our own Republican Party has in July, 2006, proclaimed their love for our very own Delilah. She has changed her name to “Neo-con” and she speaks in the four forked tongues of men like Wolfowitz and Perle, Kristol and Krauthammer. These are men of the “New American Century”, who believe that nothing matters more than Israel’s territorial ambitions. Not our good name in the world. Not the blood of our brave men and women.
They have co-opted the once proud party of Lincoln and Neo-conned it into believing in an “Axis of Evil”; that this “Axis of Evil” helped Al Qaida bring down the Twin Towers; that it bought Yellow Cake Uranium from Niger; that it had weapons of mass destruction aimed at US. But when we look past these lies and ask, “What is this Axis of Evil?”, we see Iraq which supported Hamas against Israel, Iran which supported Hezbolah against Israel, and North Korea which supplied weapons used against Israel. None of this “Axis of Evil” has ever been any more of a threat to US than Pakistan or China. Yet we are to believe the “Axis of Evil” must be destroyed at all costs, NOW, before they destroy US? Where does this paranoia come from? I believe these Neo-cons generate it for their own ends. I believe that, to the Neo-cons, “US” means “Israel”. Like Delilah, these Neo-cons only pretend to care for US.
After Israel attacked Lebanon, because Hamas and Hezbolah kidnapped three soldiers, because Israel kidnapped two civilians in Gaza a few days before that, Ken Mehlman, head of the Republican National Committee, said, “Today we are all Israelis!”
Really?
Because, personally, I’ve always considered myself an American. And I would expect any citizen of this country to be an American. Sure, we should support our allies, but not when they act like spoiled children.
If two children are fighting, what do you do? An adult would sit them both down and ask, “What’s this about?” If one says, “He took my soldiers!” and the other one says, “He stole my civilians first!”, an adult would try to get them to immediately stop fighting and talk through a solution. If they just can’t stop hitting each other, the adult would stand up and say to both of them, “The next one to throw a punch is going to answer to me!” and mean it. That would end the fighting real quick.
But adults seem to have been in short supply in the Bush White House. Instead, they acted like big kids themselves, taking sides, and handing one kid a club to beat up the other kid, only jumping in to stop the fight when it looked like their kid might lose. This behavior would not have been allowed in the ‘90‘s.
Israel has a right to defend its people, but not to drag US into its every paranoid fantasy. Every time it bullies the Palestinians and takes their land, it creates more enemies in the Muslim world. That’s why it’s attacked. As we stand by and let Israel act out, it creates more hatred for US, more suicide bombers willing to attack US. There was a time when we were not so hated.
After radical Arabs responded to the first Gulf War by bombing the WTC in ‘93, Clinton countered by engaging Arab public opinion. Through the Mid-East peace process, Clinton’s America was generally seen by the Arab world as an honest peace broker, listening to both sides. This respect for US by ordinary Arabs allowed moderate Arab leaders to keep the religious radicals marginalized. The radicals soon realized they could attack US in Muslim countries, where most Arabs thought we didn’t belong, but not in our homeland, not without being betrayed. It didn’t matter that we didn’t get a peace accord. For the rest of Clinton’s presidency, for those seven years, our homeland was not attacked again, and our children were not living in fear of another attack. Things were also better for average Israelis.
As he took office, Bush declared disengagement from the peace process, then sided with Sharon as he pushed Palestinians out of their West Bank homes. The result of this policy? The moderate Arabs were disgraced in their communities for trusting US, and the religious radicals were handed authority politically to attack US at home militarily. And so Al Qaida, not the “Axis of Evil”, attacked US on 9/11/01, with a plan experts say they’d harbored for years, just waiting for Washington to give them an excuse to use it.
This war with terror is not like other wars. It will not be won on the battlefield. It will be won in the hearts and minds of moderate Muslims. Let’s remember that it was a tip from someone in the Muslim community to a British policeman in 2005 that led to the investigation and arrest of the plane-bomb plotters in August, 2006. Not NSA spying. Not Gitmo torture. But a relationship of trust and respect between a Muslim citizen and a Christian policeman.
Jesus said, “…Love your enemies, bless those that curse you…” [Mathew 5:44] He didn’t say this because He was weak but because He was wise. He understood that the first step toward peace is to love just enough to listen so as to understand other peoples and so gain their respect. But thanks to the Neo-cons whispering in Bush’s ear, the U.S. doesn’t talk with Syria or Iran or Korea or Palestine, it talks at them, with sound bites designed to demonize them on the evening news. So how then can we possibly do as Jesus taught, and have real peace?
Now I don’t expect these Neo-cons to understand Jesus; it’s not in their culture. But I do expect Americans to understand Him. Certainly those Americans we’ve sent to Washington.

These observations are presented by Gary AndrewS, author of “No Gods Before Me, the First of the Commandment Mysteries.” May God enlighten us all.

You need to read the bill again, youre sadly mistaken. The Pork is nearly every thing the Dems tried to push through the last 2 years solidified in a single document they refused to ratify until the pork was added. Read the bill and who supported what pork. Your claim makes you look ignorant.
Last I checked, in our Federal system, the Congress holds the purse strings, not the Whitehouse.

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