Conservatives Live in a Different Moral Universe—And Here's Why It Matters

Liberals and conservatives have highly different moral priorities. And we have to understand them if we want to accomplish anything.

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This story first appeared on Alternet.

Jonathan Haidt is hardly a road-rage kind of guy, but he does get irritated by self-righteous bumper stickers. The soft-spoken psychologist is acutely annoyed by certain smug slogans that adorn the cars of fellow liberals: "Support our troops: Bring them home" and "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."

"No conservative reads those bumper stickers and thinks, 'Hmm—so liberals are patriotic!'" he says, in a sarcastic tone of voice that jarringly contrasts with his usual subdued sincerity. "We liberals are universalists and humanists; it's not part of our morality to highly value nations. So to claim dissent is patriotic—or that we're supporting the troops, when in fact we're opposing the war—is disingenuous.


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"It just pisses people off."

The University of Virginia scholar views such slogans as clumsy attempts to insist we all share the same values. In his view, these catch phrases are not only insincere—they're also fundamentally wrong. Liberals and conservatives, he insists, inhabit different moral universes. There is some overlap in belief systems, but huge differences in emphasis.

In a creative attempt to move beyond red-state/blue-state clichés, Haidt has created a framework that codifies mankind's multiplicity of moralities. His outline is simultaneously startling and reassuring—startling in its stark depiction of our differences, and reassuring in that it brings welcome clarity to an arena where murkiness of motivation often breeds contention.

He views the demonization that has marred American political debate in recent decades as a massive failure in moral imagination. We assume everyone's ethical compass points in the same direction and label those whose views don't align with our sense of right and wrong as either misguided or evil. In fact, he argues, there are multiple due norths.

"I think of liberals as colorblind," he says in a hushed tone that conveys the quiet intensity of a low-key crusader. "We have finely tuned sensors for harm and injustice but are blind to other moral dimensions. Look at the way the word 'wall' is used in liberal discourse. It's almost always related to the idea that we have to knock them down.

"Well, if we knock down all the walls, we're sitting out in the rain and cold! We need some structure."

Haidt is best known as the author of The Happiness Hypothesis, a lively look at recent research into the sources of lasting contentment. But his central focus—and the subject of his next book, scheduled to be published in fall 2010—is the intersection of psychology and morality. His research examines the wellsprings of ethical beliefs and why they differ across classes and cultures.

Last September, in a widely circulated Internet essay titled Why People Vote Republican, Haidt chastised Democrats who believe blue-collar workers have been duped into voting against their economic interests. In fact, he asserted forcefully, traditionalists are driven to the GOP by moral impulses liberals don't share (which is fine) or understand (which is not).

To some, this dynamic is deeply depressing. "The educated moral relativism worldview is fundamentally incompatible with the way 50 percent of America thinks, and stereotypes about out-of-touch elitist coastal Democrats are basically correct," sighed the snarky Web site Gawker.com as it summarized his studies.

But others—including many fellow liberal academics— have greeted Haidt's ideas as liberating.

"Jonathan is a thoughtful and somewhat flamboyant theorist," says Dan McAdams, a Northwestern University research psychologist and award-winning author. "We don't have that many of those in academic psychology. I really appreciate his lively mind."

"Psychology, as a field, has lots and lots of data, but we don't have very many good new ideas," agrees Dennis Proffitt, chairman of the University of Virginia psychology department. "They are rare in our field, but Jon is full of good new ideas."

An unapologetic liberal atheist, Haidt has a remarkable ability to describe opposing viewpoints without condescension or distortion. He forcefully expresses his own political opinions but understands how they are informed by his underlying moral orientation. In an era where deadlocked debates so often end with a dismissive "you just don't get it," he gets it.

Four years ago, he recalls, "I wanted to help Democrats press the right buttons because the Republicans were out-messaging them.

"I no longer want to be a part of that effort. What I want to do now is help both sides understand the other, so that policies can be made based on something more than misguided fear of what the other side is up to."

Haidt's journey into ethical self-awareness began during his senior year of high school in Westchester County, N.Y. "I had an existential crisis straight out of Woody Allen," he recalls. "If there's no God, how can there be a meaning to life? And if there's no meaning, why should I do my homework? So I decided to become a philosophy major and find out the meaning of life."

Once he began his studies at Yale, however, he found philosophy "generally boring, dry and irrelevant." So he gradually gravitated to the field of psychology, ultimately earning his doctorate at the University of Pennsylvania. There he met several influential teachers, including anthropologist Alan Fiske and Paul Rozin, an expert on the psychology of food and the emotion of disgust. Fascinated by Rozin's research, Haidt wrote his dissertation on moral judgment of disgusting but harmless actions - a study that helped point the way to his later findings.

As part of that early research, Haidt and a colleague, Brazilian psychologist Silvia Koller, posed a series of provocative questions to people in both Brazil and the U.S. One of the most revealing was: How would you react if a family ate the body of its pet dog, which had been accidentally run over that morning?

"There were differences between nations, but the biggest differences were across social classes within each nation," Haidt recalls. "Students at a private school in Philadelphia thought it was just as gross, but it wasn't harming anyone; their attitude was rationalist and harm-based. But when you moved down in social class or into Brazil, morality is based not on just harm. It's also about loyalty and family and authority and respect and purity. That was an important early finding."

On the strength of that paper, Haidt went to work for Richard Shweder, a cultural anthropologist at the University of Chicago who arranged for his postdoc fellow to spend three months in India. Haidt refers to his time in Bhubaneshwar—an ancient city full of Hindu temples that retains a traditional form of morality with rigid cast and gender roles—as transformative.

"I found there is not really a way to say 'thank you' or 'you're welcome' (in the local language)," he recalls. "There are ways of acknowledging appreciation, but saying 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' didn't make any emotional sense to them. Your stomach doesn't say 'thank you' to your esophagus for passing the food to it! What I finally came to understand was to stop acting as if everybody was equal. Rather, each person had a job to do, and that made the social system run smoothly."

Gradually getting past his reflexive Western attitudes, he realized that "the Confucian/Hindu traditional value structure is very good for maintaining order and continuity and stability, which is very important in the absence of good central governance. But if the goal is creativity, scientific insight and artistic achievement, these traditional societies pretty well squelch it. Modern liberalism, with its support for self-expression, is much more effective. I really saw the yin-yang."

After returning to the U.S., Haidt accepted a position at the University of Virginia, where he continued to challenge the established wisdom in moral psychology. His colleagues were using data from middle-class American college students to draw sweeping conclusions about human nature. Proffitt remembers him arguing "with some passion" that they needed to widen their scope.

"Jon recognizes that diversity is not just the politically correct thing to do - it's also the intelligent thing to do," he says. "Seeing things from multiple perspectives gives you a much better view of the whole."

In January 2005—shortly after President Bush won re-election, to the shock and dismay of the left—Haidt was invited by a group of Democrats in Charlottesville, Va., to give a talk on morality and politics. There, for the first time, he explained to a group of liberals his conception of the moral world of cultural conservatives.

"They were very open to what I was saying," he says. "I discovered there was a real hunger among liberals to figure out what the hell was going on.

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dissent/patriotism

Funny that conservatives have no problem with dissent and being disloyal towards Obama.

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Off With Their Heads !

The death of the 'Conservative' ideology and all those who follow it, could only benefit America, the World and all living beings that reside here.

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Do you mean the conservative

Do you mean the conservative ideology that gave birth to America's independence, the Constitution, and to the success that America has enjoyed as a nation? Liberalism and statism breed mediocrity, dependence, complacency, and failure. They're also known to breed Fascism - exhibit "A", the socialist Nazis - an ideology with which you are clearly quite familiar, since you openly advocate in your post for the literal murder of those who disagree with your "religion". Disgusting - reprehensible.

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America was Founded by Liberals

Conservative ideology gave birth to the Constitution? Really? Weren't the Conservatives of revolutionary times Loyalists? Weren't the Liberals of those times Revolutionaries? Aren't Conservatives in favor of the status quo, hence the name? Aren't Liberals in favor of change and liberty, hence the name?

America's Founding Fathers were Liberals in every sense of the word. In those days Liberals were considered unpatriotic traitors by Conservatives; not much has changed in 300 years.

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America was founded by liberals?

Your post is wrong on so many levels, it's hard to know where to begin. A more distorted view of history would be difficult to find - and the worst part is, I think you know that everything you've said is intellectually dishonest. The ideology of America's founding fathers would be fought against tooth and nail on virtually every issue by today's liberals - who shout down and shut down any viewpoint inconsistent with political correctness on college campuses, are currently plotting to shut down conservative voices on talk radio as a response to their own abysmal failure in that medium, whose policies on "redistribution of wealth" are in direct contradiction with the founders' principles on taxation, who attempt to criminalize religious expression inconsistent with PC values, who want to seize guns, etc. etc. etc. You really should rethink your post.

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Nah

Not really; as a black liberal, President Obama offends conservatives on both INGROUP axis and PURITY axis. Thus, not a "REAL American".

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Obama's "blackness"

Obama offends conservatives as a liberal, his race has nothing to do with it for at least 95% of conservatives (though even 5% would be a problem). Conservatives would have lined up around the block to vote for a conservative Obama, and would have lined up around the block to vote for a pro-life Colin Powell a few elections before that. Liberal fantasies of rampant conservative racism are just that - fantasies. On the other hand, white liberal politicians patronize black Americans, encourage their excessive dependence on the government, encouraging them to see themselves as victims rather than embracing their full potential. I think the identity politics of liberals is a far more serious (and prevalent) racism issue than the very small percentage of fringe racist conservatives.

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Cult of personality and the deaths of millions.

Conservatives did not complain about the Progressives and Socialists being *disloyal* to President Bush (although some may have complained about the tone of the rhetoric), we complained about the apparent disloyalty of many on the left to the country.

Many of us have that same concern today. I realize that many of you find this very difficult to understand, but we strongly disagree not only with Obama's methods, but with his very values and goals. We do not believe that the should organize large parts of our lives, from our economic choices to the food(s) we eat. We don't like he anti-democratic positions he takes on many issues (for example the Card Check legislation). We don't like the way he has twisted TARP (and we were manifestly unhappy with Bush and McCain over it. This as much as anything is why many of us just stayed home or voted third party on election day) into outright nationalizing several large banks (If the Federal government had to do *anything* it should have allowed those banks to fail then insured those with mortgages were able to keep paying on them, and those with investments in them, but not part of the decision processes were at least kept from the poor house).

We do not like the assaults on the first, second, fifth ninth and tenth amendments. First: Fairness doctrine and suits against churches that won't cater to non-traditional marriages. Second is obvious. Fifth: See Kelo (and yes, we're not happy with the way many Republicans handle this sort of thing either). The ninth and tenth amendments are probably just not something your worldview can deal with, but do a couple bong hits and meditate on it a while. You still won't understand it, but you'll be stoned, so you won't care.

To conflate Obama's personal values and goals with those of the nation, to say that disagreement with HIM on any front is unpatriotic is completely in keeping with the anti-liberal policyes and positions of your Progressive forefathers like Wilson and Mussolini.

The overwhelming majority of Conservatives were willing to engage in *civil* disagreement over policies, what we got was street theater well (financially) supported and professionally organized by trans-national organizations inimical to our country and our way of life.

We have no loyality to Obama just as we had no loyality to Bush. Or primary loyalty is to the *country*, and secondarily to the *office*. Heck most Conservatives were as disappointed in Bush as the Progressives were angry with him, but for the opposite reasons.

Regards,
Petro.
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Forgive me for bringing them up but...

...it's important. (Despite the rule of "internet comments" that says this reference gets you edited out.) The attempt at empathy for conservative viewpoints is commendable, and as both a psychologist and a Quaker I'm generally inclined to agree with it. But surely it's easier to argue for empathy with groups who value authority, order, and "purity" because the Nazi party of 70 years ago is effectively dead? They believed in the same core values.

People who believe in conformity, punishing those who disagree with them (sometimes brutally), and controlling the private lives and even thoughts of everyone (in the service of "evangelism" or, in other terms, totallitarianism, which means "even your thoughts are not your property") are hard to empathize with, unless you are one of them.

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Its ironic ...

to read this as liberals rush to institute thought crimes, censorship ("that opinion makes me uncomfortable", "that person has no right to say things I disagree with", etc.), mandatory indoctrination, and to force individuals to behave in conformaty to liberal orthodoxy.

I wonder if you really can't even see this.

The liberal Uber-State will result in a profoundly more authoritatian culture than the United States has seen before, with left-wing fundamentalist enforcing their rules with less flexibility than the Puritans could have imagined. You will have no choice - big government will control what kind of car you can buy, you health care decisions, your education, your housing .....

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conservatives

"anonymous" should differentiate between conservatives & conservative spokespersons/leaders. Conservative rank & file have not been shown to be disloyal to this president. Liberal & socialist leaders likewise go against their rank & file by sending their children to private schools & banking offshore. The basic argument about differing philosophies needs to be explored better before being discarded.

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Read George Lakoff Instead

Read George Lakoff, Moral Politics: What Conservatives Know that Liberals Don't, if you really want to learn something about the differences in thinking between Conservatives and Liberals. George is clearly a deeper thinker and his analysis provides some real insight into the basis of the differences between liberals and conservatives. Some of what is in this article is similar, but I think George gets to where these values come from -- visions of family and responsibility. Moral Politics is essential reading in this area. I'm not so sure about this guy...

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Interesting

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Liberal, however, as I get older I find that I identify more and more with conservative ideas, in some areas. Looking at it from the Haidt lense I can see that when I was younger I benefited from the structures of society without having any tangible responsibility for maintaining the structure. As I got older I became more and more responsible for the structure of society, e.g., parenting, supervising, home ownership, voting.

This reminds too of High/Low context social structures, which I read about in grad school. High context societies value relationships; family and friends. Low context values material goods, efficiency and power.

Thanks for an interesting and thought provoking article.

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value of Conservatives

As much as i've felt animus toward the Right recently I do believe, along with the author, that the Right has a necessary function. One reason we are in such a mess now is that the Right abdicated it's function of reminding us of un-intended consequences of actions taken with (at least purportedly) noble goals ( Iraq?)The Right also is necessary to bitch about the cost of things we do as a society. The fact that the Bushies and their enabling minions did not do this is one reason Conservatism is so discredited today.

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A better example of

A better example of "un-intended consequences of actions taken with (at least purportedly) noble goals " is the mortgage/banking crisis, which was brought on by the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 and ramped into high gear under Clinton. The desire to help poor people own a home (a noble goal) turned into a program to encourage (force) lenders into giving mortgages to people who couldn't afford them. Some bankers crossed the line, but only after the government pushed them into a bad situation.

I agree that the Right abdicated it's function and didn't really stand up to put a stop to the financial mess. I'm disappointed with both sides because both have acted irresponsibly.

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Liberalism is a product of

Liberalism is a product of the immature individual and their one way view without enough input from other sources. Not only opposing views are discarded without even giving an assessment of their merit, but even supporting views are all too often ignored. Why? I think it falls on the immaturity and the unwillingness to produce benefits out of hard neccessary work. With age comes wisdom, and you will find more and more as you age that your values lean to the conservative side. Because as we age we tend to take on more responsibilities and this requires the structure that conservative values are supposed to adhere to. This doesn't mean conservatives can't have leanings to liberal views in some things. The war on drugs is pinned to conservatives but it is a political endeavor only. If you ask anyone why the war on drugs should go on, they can only give answers like "drugs are bad", or "they cause crime in poor areas". Both are wrong and both are political view points. Drugs are not bad, the system doesn't like a few that have the effect of bringing in a huge amount of revenue. They are promoted as being bad to maintain this revenue stream. Drugs don't cause crime, poverty causes crime. In reality it seems to me that almost all disagreements between liberals and conservatives just don't actually need to be. They are there because the politicians want them there. Liberals want change and to change the world. This can be good and sometimes there is a leader who does that. Obama will and is changing the world we live in. What you liberals fail to understand is how he will achieve this. I will let you in on the big scheme of things. Open your eyes to reality so to speak. The only way he can accomplish his mission to bring change and equality to everyone and give them all the same position or base to start at and maintain their equalities, is to make everyone poor. To take as much from everyone as he can and give it to everyone and no one. He is doing it very well too. He is raising taxes beyond compare. He is making the rich richer without limits. He is ensuring we who have paid the taxes will be equal in our worth. He is ensuring that the means available to create wealth are not available anymore. Trust me, he can't give everyone a million dollars, but he can take yours and give it to the banks. Note he did not want to give any to the car manufacturers who are the biggest industry around. Cars encompass a vast arena of suppliers and manufacturers the world over. Banks only print paper and charge us a fee for borrowing that worthless paper. Liberals will get what they wanted, they will realize too late they really didn't want what they are going to get. Hope you like stavation and living in cardboard boxes. Change is good when steered by true conservative values, not the conservative politicians of today though. I propose the solution to the problem in the world today is to destroy any and all politicians and their entire way of doing business. They are the problem, they spend too much, they don't act in the best interest of anyone but themselves, they are a lamprey on the society of today. It doesn't matter what country you go to. They are all scum.

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Wow! I'm a homeless moderate!

I may not belong in either camp completely, which makes me and my values worthless and ignored, but, standing alone in all this moral mess, at least I don't let tv/radio loudmouths tell me what to think and what to believe. I figured it all out on my own, with occasional prompts from people who really do think and who do make sense to me.
Thinking...rare in today's life.
Never have I seen so many ugly conservatives stirring up hatred of the rest of us and getting away with it..... We moderates and liberals ignore it at our peril. As someone already pointed out. The Nazis are still here, they just cover themselves in religious regalia while they Balkanize our country. If we don't get the fairness doctrine back for radio/tv, we will have a civil war...... and I bet they have most of the guns.

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Yes we do, and we know how

Yes we do, and we know how to use them.

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A moderate?

Oh, I'd say you're letting someone tell you what to think and believe - most likely someone like Keith Olberman, who in labeling anyone who doesn't agree with him a "Nazi", acts more like a Nazi than just about anyone else. Either that or everything you've "figured out on your own" is the result of ignorance, delusional thinking, and bigotry. I find your allegations of "so many ugly conservatives stirring up hatred and getting away with it", about as hypocritical as it gets. One need look no further than the daily hateful rantings of Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews, or Janeane Garofalo or myriad other deranged liberals, to see hundreds of examples of the anger and hatred of liberals. Why, one of the liberal posters in this very forum, just a few comments before yours, openly advocated for the murder of conservatives. No, I think the real bigotry and hatred here is on your part - in your blind hatred of people of faith. What's really amazing is that any TRUE "Fairness Doctrine" (an unmanageable and unattainable thing given today's technologies and the inconvenient-to-liberals 1st amendment), would actually broaden the conservative voice, since all the networks besides FOX are pretty much arms of the Obama press office. But liberals like you don't want a true "Fairness Doctrine" - you just want the voices of conservatives and religious persons silenced. How very "liberal", indeed. How very "democratic" of you.

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"conservatives stirring up hatred of the rest of us..."

Funny, because for the last eight years, it seemed like the opposite was true. Bang that "hate Bush" drum long enough, and people will eventually dance along. Both sides are guilty of this. But, referring to the conservatives as "Nazis" when the liberals are LITERALLY taking over the manufacturing, banking, insurance and health care industries right in front of your eyes .. wow. How does one miss that?

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Conservatives live in a different moral universe

Many of the posters on this forum, seem scarcely to have read or at least understood or cared about anything the article was saying. As someone who used to be conservative, but at age 45 has become conservative, liberal, libertarian, or anarchist depending on the issue in question - I am forever amazed at the left's incessant accusations that if you don't agree with them, you are by default a Nazi or a Fascist. The same accusation follows from the left toward persons of religious faith. I'm always amazed by this, because the way I see it, a leftist is far more likely to install am authoritarian government, or to toss someone who disagrees with them into a reeducation camp (or death camp), than a conservative is. Being someone who used to attend church 2 times (or more) per week, I can tell you that most Christians are the sweetest people you'd ever want to meet. Most of the meanest, most verbally abusive and insensitive people I've met, are liberals. Just look at the fascist tirades by the likes of Janeane Garofalo and so many others - I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh for years, and never remember anything so ugly or abusive being said about liberals, as what she said about conservatives. Fascism, Nazi-ism, these were definitively leftist ideologies, and for liberals to accuse conservatives of kinship with them, is just nonsensical. If liberals are so sensitive to harm or suffering, why do they overwhelmingly support aborting babies right up to the moment of birth? I had dinner with a liberal woman from work seven or eight years ago - she told me that she felt extremely guilty about eating the fish at the company dinner. So I gently teased her, "what about lettuce in a salad - that's a living thing too"? To my amazement, in complete seriousness she told me she felt a little guilty about eating vegetation, too. At that point, I gently teased her again - "but let me guess where you stand on abortion"...and she said, "Yeah I know..it doesn't make any sense". And I said, "No, it certainly doesn't". When you have more empathy/sympathy for a known Al Qaeda murderer of thousands, than for a third trimester baby - I can't understand you at all. Even though I now hold some "liberal" views, I'll never identify myself as one - because in my life experience, liberals are some of the meanest, most arrogant and myopic people on the planet. I've met some nice ones too..but when you see the violently antagonistic way they approach people who don't have the same views, on college campuses, for example - as well as blogs, it's frightening.

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Most people don't understand the political spectrum

"I am forever amazed at the left's incessant accusations that if you don't agree with them, you are by default a Nazi or a Fascist."

This is because "the left" have done a very good job of brainwashing most of the masses about what fascism so that most people don't understand the political spectrum. The extreme left wing of the political spectrum is supreme political control, while the far right is anarchy. I say this because "conservatives" by definition are seeking to conserve individual freedom and rights while the "liberals" aren't. They would prefer to have the government in charge of everything. Also most history textbooks leave out the fact that "Nazi" was short for National Socialist Party and that Hitler's policies were actually socialist (one of his first acts was to nationalize the financial industry, sound familiar?). So here's a handy little "illustration" of my point:

socialism/ communism/ fascisim--------------------------------------------------anarchy

Slocko

Outstanding Article

But still... why must we continue to label ourselves?

"Liberals and conservatives, he insists, inhabit different moral universes"

I disagree with this quote. I think the article shows we are all very much in the same universe - it's just that some people emphasize certain "volume knobs" more than others. Indeed, we ignore the spectrum at our peril...

** Slocko! ***

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conservative/liberal

Here's another way of looking at it. Of the two creation stories in Genesis, one is conservative- the orderly seven days with man created last- from the Deuteronomic tradition I think. It is a lawyers account with everything nicely organised and nothing left to chance. The other story ,from the Ephraim tradition if I remember rightly, is a countrymans story in which God reflects human nature. The weird attempts to provide a companion from the animal kingdom before giving up & creating the woman from a rib. This dithering about looking for the best solution is a very liberal trait. What strikes me as curious is that fundamentalists in the Republican school reject modern scholarship and claim that both stories are one and the same. You just have to laugh.

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I must agree with Greggy, a

I must agree with Greggy, a lot of the posters (e.g. the first four) seems to have skipped the article and gone straight to the comments.

"People who believe in conformity, punishing those who disagree with them (sometimes brutally), and controlling the private lives and even thoughts of everyone (in the service of "evangelism" or, in other terms, totallitarianism, which means "even your thoughts are not your property") are hard to empathize with, unless you are one of them. "

You are right, liberals are hard to empathize with.

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My only problem with this

My only problem with this article is that it seems to imply the age old stereotype that conservatives are less caring than liberals, which is not true. I know liberals hate being stereotyped as unpatriotic; hence the "dissent is patriotic" bumper stickers (notice that now that there guy is in power they howl and moan when conservatives dissent yet they hated Bush with a passion and had no problem with saying some pretty nasty things about him (even if some of those things were true), but I digress). Conservatives also hate it when they're stereotyped as uncaring bastards.

The main difference is that liberals usually want large federal government programs or laws to fix all of societies ills while conservatives don't. Take poverty for instance. Liberals usually want large federal welfare programs to "take care" of people for them. Conservatives on the other hand usually want people to take care of themselves as much as possible, then turn to private charity groups or family, and then to the government as a last resort only. And then they want the government programs to function as a temporary hand up as opposed to a permanent hand out. One solution enhances personal freedom even if it means that people are free to fail while the other results in creating an entire class of people who are dependent on the government.

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Hmmmm.

I think it's remarkable that liberals and conservatives are basically reduced to the most retarded exemplars of those groups. Does anyone (other than uncurious conservatives) really think that most liberals generally disregard sanctity and purity of body and mind? Or that conservatives prize submission to authority over correcting wrongs? Frankly, this piece reads like it was written in 2002. And moreover, for an expert on morality, he conveniently sidesteps the issue of contradiction- frankly, an interest in correcting wrongs is frequently at odds with an interest in maintaining order. Isn't it our job to evaluate the relative merits of these priorities?

Seriously, whether this guy self-identifies as a liberal or conservative, religious or atheist, he comes off primarily as an idiot.

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Here's the thing...

I'm not only an east-coast liberal, I'm a New York liberal -- but a big chunk of my family are both religious and conservative, so I've had the opportunity to surround myself with people on both sides of most issues. My confusion with conservatives isn't that their world-view is different from my own (I can understand that we don't share the same values, and that's OK); it's that they often seem willing to vote for leaders who go against the very values they say they hold dear. Why would anyone vote against their own values? For example, most conservatives are very concerned with the size and reach of their government, believing that smaller government is best for the little guy. (I'm not so biased that I can't understand that point of view. Freedom is just as precious to me as to the next American.) Only thing is, it doesn't seem that most conservative leaders are actually doing this. Yes, you may get a tax cut, but you're also getting policies that support big business, industrial agriculture, the current health care system, etc. To me it seems that these policies are detrimental to the economic stability of their constituency. More importantly, nor do they seem to be lessening the outreach or impact of the government. It seems, from the outsider's perspective, that if they speak in language that resonates with their voters -- family values and pro-life and patriotism -- the rest is happily ignored. Or maybe it isn't? I'd really appreciate if someone could explain it to me. I honestly would love to understand a little better -- are there people who think that the increasing monopolization in this country is a positive force? Didn't the recent financial mess show us how dangerous this can be? Or am I missing something important on the other side of the story? And of course, if you want a government who doesn't unnecessarily intervene in your life, why would you support a government who aims to police the rest of the world?

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bumper stickers

It's hardly shocking that bumper stickers do a bad job of communicating
feelings. My personal feeling/observation is that conservative ideas
generally lend themselves more readily to slogans that will fit on a
bumper sticker. I'm not sure why that is.

Haidt's ideas provide some insight into the see-saw nature of politics
in America. I wonder why many other countries seem to me to be
more stable in their politics over a generational time span than we are.

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Bumper Stickers

"My personal feeling/observation is that conservative ideas
generally lend themselves more readily to slogans that will fit on a
bumper sticker."
Are you kidding me? Have you slept through the last year, or lost your driving privileges over that time? Case in point "CHANGE". "HOPE". One WORD bumper stickers with ill-defined meaning and virtually no specifics - and you think conservative ideas fit better on bumper stickers?

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I found this article

I found this article immensely satisfying, but it appears nearly all of the commenters have failed to bother reading it--so I guess I'm alone. Conservative/liberal nazinazinazi-nothing but accusations & pettiness in an article which so lucidly champions empathy & understanding. Ugh--A characteristic of print newspapers that I will miss is the absence of commentary. Despite the realization that others think differently & will react in the ways we see here, the unnecessary venom is so discouraging and totally deflates the fair-mindedness of the article above.

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Haidt has placed his

Haidt has placed his insights in the wrong discursive framework. The whole talk would make more sense if it abandoned talk of morality. Moral judgments proceed from false analogies between private sentiment and objective reality, so language based on morals can never give any insight into reality except for the reality of private feeling.

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