Reid Goes NIMBY on Gitmo
How the top Senate Dem joined the Republicans' detainee scare campaign.
On Tuesday—after Democrats joined with Republicans in the Senate to vote against President Obama's request for $80 million to close the Guantanamo Bay prison—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters that he didn't want terrorist suspects in US prisons. Yet in the midst of scoring—or deflecting—a political point, Reid apparently forgot a basic fact: there are dozens of terrorists in US jails.
Senate Democrats, including Reid, moved to strip the Gitmo shutdown money after the Republicans initiated a scare campaign, warning that the worst will happen if Obama transfers Gitmo detainees to federal prison facilities in the United States. Looking for a winning political issue, Republican House members and senators have been sending letters to Obama and declaring, "Not in my state." Though Reid's home state of Nevada has no federal prisons, he joined this chorus, saying: "Part of what we don't want is [terrorists] be put in prisons in the United States. We don't want them around the United States."
But there already are dozens, if not scores, of terrorists in US prisons. Since 9/11, according to Human Rights Watch, federal courts have tried 145 people on terrorism charges. Those found guilty are in US jails. And it's no secret that a number of prominent terrorists—including key figures connected to al Qaeda—have been sent to high security federal prisons. Here's a sampling:
* Omar Ahmad-Rahman, a.k.a. the Blind Sheikh, who was convicted for masterminding the 1993 World Trade Center attack, is in the Butner Federal Correctional Complex in North Carolina.
* Richard Reid, the failed shoe-bomber terrorist, is in the supermax federal prison in Florence, Colorado.
* John Walker Lindh, the so-called "American Taliban," is in the Terre Haute Federal Correctional Complex.
* Ramzi Yousef, one of the planners of the 1993 WTC bombing and a nephew of 9/11 plotter Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, is in Florence.
* Jose Padilla, accused of plotting a dirty bomb attack (before those particular charges were dropped), is in Florence.
* Zacarias Moussaoui, dubbed the "20th hijacker," is in Florence.
* Ahmed Ressam, who planned to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, is in Florence.
* Mohamed al-Owhali, Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, Mohamed Odeh, and Wadih el Hage—each convicted for the bombings of the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998—are in Florence.
* Domestic terrorists Terry Nichols and Ted "Unabomber" Kaczynski are also in the Florence facility.
The United States does have the ability to lock up terrorists. And none of these bad guys have been able to escape and terrorize the communities surrounding these federal jails. (Thirteen members of the ring behind the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole were imprisoned in Yemen, but they managed to escape; most remain at large.) Adding some or all of the 240 detainees now in Gitmo would certainly pose challenges to federal prison authorities. But the system has worked. Officials Hardin, Montana, have even expressed interest in taking the Gitmo prisoners to fill the town's detention facility, which has been sitting vacant since completion in 2007.
Republicans, eager for any political ammo, are trying to turn Gitmo into a NIMBY issue. And they have at least succeeded in frightening Reid and his fellow Senate Democrats—to such an extent that Reid ended up echoing their demagogic talking points. (A senior Democratic Senate aide says that Reid did try to "walk back the comments a bit.") "At this time, [Reid] opposes transferring detainees to American prisons," a Reid spokesperson says. "If the administration proposes a plan that recommends the transfer of some detainees to Americans prisons, he will evaluate it carefully and make a judgment at that time. He will always strongly oppose the release of any terrorists onto American streets."
On Thursday, Obama is scheduled to deliver a speech outlining his plan for closing down Gitmo—in an effort to regain support for the funding request he submitted to Congress. He will, no doubt, appeal to reason and make a calm and deliberate case to back up his position. And, no doubt, the Republicans will try to blast him for shuttering Gitmo and possibly sending nasty terrorists into the American heartland. It would be good for the Obama White House if during this round Reid doesn't give aid and comfort to fear-mongering GOPers.
The writers of this article
The writers of this article might want to admit that democrats are fear-mongerings as well.
Oddly Enough
I'm from the Right, but I think those Gitmo terrorists should be housed in our federal prisons. Thrown in with the general population, no special treatment, no special meals. In fact, Sheriff Joe Arpaio would make the ideal warden. But that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
The whole thing is a joke
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The whole thing is a joke
Reid
Harry Reid seems to have his head up his ass about half the time. How did he ever get chosen to be senate majority leader?
Guilty until proven innocent
There is one HUGE problem with the GOP talking points: few held in US custody have ever had a hearing much less a trial. 98% of these people have never been indicted. Once you torture people you can't easily convict them. In the Roddenberry Star Trek world they make a point that the federation [modeled after the US justice system] considers people innocent until proven guilty. In the Cardassian system proof of innocence is required. We give Gitmo prisoners less justice than the Cardassians. The Cardassians give prisoners access to evidence against them. The GOP seems to have a serious problem with that premise. Attorney General Meese under Reagan once commented that if you were a suspect that meant you were guilty. Their agenda seems to be that if you demand evidence of guilt from the government you must be "soft on crime".
I wonder how the world of the Star Trek universe would have viewed an alien race who operated a detention facility where evidence of innocence or guilt was irrelevant: if one was detained you were guilty of a crime. It would have been a hoot to see Captain Kirk rage with indignation at such an unfair system of "justice" being utilized. It would definitely be alien in nature and provide a temptation to violate the prime directive [which was done several times because of alien recklessness]. Would Kirk and Spock have broken out all the Gitmo prisoners if the Enterprise ran across such a justice system? Would Spock approve or would he prefer that the alien system be honored no matter the injustice? How would doctor McCoy react to hundreds of prisoners being abused to death? But no matter, the federation had a system of justice that was certainly different than that employed by the US during the past decade.
What do you expect from...
....a Morman? Intelligence? He is a man of "faith."
Insofar as faith is possible, it is irrational; insofar as faith is rational, it is impossible. This carries over to his political positions.
The whole party is riddled with NIBYS and hypocrites, starting with Obama, the man of change, except when he become president. Here is your biggest ass.
Hope they end up in your back yard...
America has been weakened by Obama. Instead of looking at what has been, I look to what might occur. Because our country lacks border security, it's highly likely we'll have another terroist attack in the near future. What a feather in their caps to blow up a federal prison, free their comrades and further desimate the security of the United States. Housing terrorists in the US is a stupid idea, invting trouble.
But what if????
What if the ACLU and the other bleeding-heart America haters convince the courts that the Muslim terrorists have been unfairly treated and even had their feelings hurt and therefore should be immediately released. I would even bet that you leftists would want them compensated with money, a place to live and free cars. Then it would be interesting to see how many of you want them in your neighborhood.
Harry Reid
We in NV are still angered at Harry Reid's lack of resistance toward Bush/Cheney policies.
Now, Reid is speaking up, finally? With mumbo-jumbo crap proping up Republican talking points?
With friends like these, Obama needs no enemies.




























