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Washington Dispatch: The response to the intelligence community's recent assessment troubled policy wonks on both sides of the Iran debate, all of whom agree that a threat remains.

December 18, 2007


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The immediate conventional wisdom spurred by the recent National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran was that its conclusions were good news for those favoring a diplomatic track with Tehran—and a devastating rebuke to those who desire military action. Hawks predictably cried foul over the intelligence community's assessment that Tehran halted a secret nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003 and is susceptible to international diplomatic pressure, and quickly sought to discredit the intelligence analysts who produced the 150-page document, only a short summary of which was unclassified and released (PDF). But as the dust settled, some foreign-policy wonks looking to put the brakes on the bomb-Iran crowd have become concerned about the NIE's possible consequences. They say that just because the regime stopped its weapons program doesn't mean the threat posed by a nuclear Iran should be underestimated. And they worry that the NIE may make it harder to rally international support to pressure Tehran, and, thereby, paradoxically, may make future military action more and not less likely.

"The more I digest everything…the more and more I begin to fear that the manner in which this NIE was written and released to the public is a disaster and a serious setback to an intelligent U.S. policy," says a Democratic Hill staffer who works on Iran proliferation. "Our best hope for derailing the Iranian nuclear program and stop[ping] short of military action was for a concerted international campaign of diplomatic and economic sanctions coordinated at the U.N. Security Council. With the release of this NIE, and the inevitable distortions and simplifications echoing in press coverage, a third [Security Council] resolution is dead." Further, he continued, it will now be harder to convince international financial institutions to boycott Iran, as the U.S. government has been trying to do for some time.

While the NIE stated that Iran had halted a secret nuclear weapons program, the remaining issue is Tehran's efforts to produce highly enriched uranium in defiance of a U.N. ban. Iran says its nuclear program is for civilian purposes, but experts say that after enough highly enriched uranium is produced it can be weaponized without great technical difficulty.

"The NIE appears to focus narrowly on the issue of weaponization—in terms of weapon design and fabrication," says Jacqueline Shire, a senior analyst with the Institute for Science and International Security. "A bigger concern is Iran's development of the nuclear fuel cycle, from mining to uranium conversion to enrichment. Its operation of centrifuge cascades at Natanz"—one of Iran's enrichment facilities—"demonstrates a commitment to mastering the enrichment process, which gives Iran a weapons-capability under the guise of a peaceful, civil nuclear program."

According to Wayne White, a former State Department intelligence official, "The NIE clearly has made the passage of sanctions by the U.N. Security Council more problematic. Yet, to the extent the international community is not viewed as continuing to bear down on Iran, the Israelis will feel ever more isolated, perhaps ultimately resorting to military action against Iran's nuclear infrastructure." White noted that "an Israeli delegation reportedly is in Washington now in an effort to, in part, argue that the NIE is incorrect."

Some recent events bolster this concern. This week, Russia resumed the sale and delivery of nuclear fuel to Iran after a long delay—a decision over which U.S. officials expressed disappointment. Immediately following the release of the NIE, China expressed doubt over whether international sanctions against Iran were warranted. China and Russia are both members of the United Nations Security Council which have reluctantly been persuaded to go along with two rounds of international sanctions against Iran so far; Washington has been seeking passage of a third round of tougher international sanctions, with difficulty.

Not everyone, however, believes the recent NIE will necessarily cause the international community to ease pressure on Tehran. Neil Crompton, a senior British diplomat until recently stationed in Iran, notes that it's conceivable that some countries, particularly Germany and possibly China, might be less averse to joining a new round of international economic sanctions against Iran, no longer seeing such a move as part of a slippery slope leading to military confrontation.

Daniel Byman, a former government Middle East analyst who now directs Georgetown University's Center for Peace and Security Studies, says the NIE's findings will force the international community to reconcile its views about Iran's nuclear program—not just a possible Iranian nuclear weapon. "Some people argue that no NIE has ever had a big impact on policy, but this one may," he says. "The real question is, can people live with an Iranian nuclear program?"

The Democratic Hill staffer, not usually the type to find himself in sync with Iran uber-hawk John Bolton, says he recently found himself nodding in agreement with a Washington Post column the former U.N. ambassador wrote in early December after the NIE's conclusions were released.

"While the president and others argue that we need to maintain pressure on Iran, this 'intelligence' torpedo has all but sunk those efforts, inadequate as they were," Bolton wrote.. "Ironically, the NIE opens the way for Iran to achieve its military nuclear ambitions in an essentially unmolested fashion, to the detriment of us all."

Whatever policy impact the NIE might ultimately produce, hawks, including Bolton, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Weekly Standard, and presidential candidate Fred Thompson, quickly blasted its authors, particularly several former State Department officials. Bolton decried them as "not intelligence professionals but refugees from the State Department, brought into the new central bureaucracy of the director of national intelligence. These officials had relatively benign views of Iran's nuclear intentions five and six years ago; now they are writing those views as if they were received wisdom from on high. In fact, these are precisely the policy biases they had before, recycled as 'intelligence judgments.'"

Government sources and news reports identified three officials within the Office of the Director for National Intelligence (ODNI) as the primary targets of hawks' ire: C. Thomas Fingar, a former senior official at the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, who is now deputy director of national intelligence for analysis; Vann Van Diepen, a former State Department arms control official who clashed with State's arms-control office when it was headed by Bolton and who currently serves as national intelligence officer for weapons of mass destruction and proliferation; and Kenneth Brill, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna who now directs the National Counterproliferation Center.

"Bolton and I and others in that [arms control] office were at odds with Van Diepen over the aggressiveness with which we needed to pursue sanctions [against Iran]," says former Bolton aide David Wurmser, who stepped down in August as a Middle East advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney, in an interview. Brill, Wurmser argues, "was simply too trusting of the IAEA." He adds, "This is a fundamental tension between Bolton and the foreign service. We believe the only reason why [it's worth] sitting in those jobs"—such as Brill's post in Vienna—"is to pursue our national interests."

The fight over the NIE is a continuation of the long battle that hawks have waged against professional diplomats and intelligence officials. In all these tussles, the hawks suggest—in one way or another—that the career diplomats and analysts are weak appeasers unwilling to take on America's enemies.

White, the former State Department intelligence official, bristled at the suggestion that his former boss, Fingar, would slant the NIE. Such charges are "absolutely disgusting," fumes White, now an adjunct scholar with the Middle East Institute. "Tom is perhaps the [most] professional intelligence official that I have ever dealt with."

For its part, the ODNI organized a series of hasty briefings last week to beat back the conservative critique of the NIE and the hawks' claim that its release was designed to constrain the president's policy options on Iran. Last Tuesday, members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee were invited to be briefed on some of the raw intelligence backing the NIE's judgments at a previously unreported meeting headlined by Van Diepen; Stephen Kaplan, the vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council; and Leslie Ireland, the ODNI's mission manager for Iran.

Around the same time, the ODNI sent out a statement by Donald Kerr, the principal deputy director of national intelligence, who defended the NIE. "National Intelligence Estimates contain the coordinated judgments of the Intelligence Community regarding the likely course of future events and the implications for U.S. policy," he said in the statement. "The task of the Intelligence Community is to produce objective, ground truth analysis. We feel confident in our analytic tradecraft and resulting analysis in this estimate." Bolton and other hawks had been picking on a handful of intelligence professionals with whom they had feuded in the past, even suggesting a conspiracy had been mounted by these officials. Kerr was responding with a basic point: The NIE was not the product of a few,; it was a consensus document produced by representatives of the entire intelligence establishment, which is made up of 16 agencies.

All this bickering and Kremlinology aside, the NIE makes it unlikely that President Bush will take preemptive military action on Iran in the 13 months remaining in his presidency. While State Department officials have long signaled that they were not aware of a decision to strike Iran before Bush left office, there’s no doubt the administration has used the threat of possible force as a tool of coercive diplomacy – in essence, to bluff. It is not just the hawks but the diplomats who worry that the reduced leverage will make it more difficult for the international community to persuade Iran to halt uranium enrichment. And they worry that if they fail, the military option may again be on the table for whoever next sits in the Oval Office.

Laura Rozen is Mother Jones' National Security Correspondent.



 

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Sigh. I have read Rozen for 3 years at least and am intimately familiar with how she writes and what she wants to acheive by how she treats a story. It's all too familiar. Let's have some uncolored, un-..ever..so slightly..tweaked -coverage please.
Posted by:CarrollDecember 18, 2007 2:21:08 PMRespond ^
"The task of the Intelligence Community is to produce objective, ground truth analysis. We feel confident in our analytic tradecraft and resulting analysis in this estimate."Very well put! The job of the intelligence community is certainly not to produce NIE reports that confirm the neo-cons wet dreams for unnecessary war. As for the so called "UN Security Council"'s role in checking the prolifiration of nuclear weapon by sanctions or any other means..enough said! The administration should not worry about pushing any resolutions through the UN. They will make speeches, but at the end of the day the UN is a branch of the State Department and they will roll over if Washington wants it. Does it strike anyone else in the world as funny, that the Country with the most nuclear weapons, and the only one to have actually used them on human civilian population, is the one that is most vocal about small nations enriching uranium? Are we not now looking into smaller more mobile bunkerbuster type nuclear weapons? Isn't Britain talking about next generation trident something or other nuclear arsenal for their naval ships? Why is the so called international community so concerned with nations that MAY acquire these WMDs and equally comfortable with ones that ACTUALLY have them? Remember, YOU are what your record says you are. If you have killed, you are a killer! War is just mass killing.
Posted by:SamDecember 18, 2007 2:30:54 PMRespond ^
I have to admit I'm a bit confused. On the one hand we're told that Ahmadinejad is a threat to everything Americans hold near and dear. Yet now, on the other hand, we're being told that the Iranian weapons program was suspended in 2003-- that is, two years before Ahmadinejad took office-- and it seems as though there's no evidence it's started up again on his watch. So why exactly do we still need to be afraid of this guy, or maybe even more afraid than ever according to some of the sources in this article? His views on the Holocaust and other issues are reprehensible, but in terms of boots on the ground and bombs in the air Ahmadinejad would seem to be less of a threat than we've been led to believe.
Posted by:PatienceDecember 18, 2007 6:35:38 PMRespond ^
I Think you (Laura Rozen) should write for Fox news; your views & one sided judgments are disrespectfull to MoJO's readers.
Posted by:HOWARDDecember 18, 2007 10:01:58 PMRespond ^
There is no evidence of a weapons program. Iran's nuclear program including its enrichment program started under the Shah, with the full blessing and support of the USA. There are currently about 40 other countries in the world that "could" make the bomb if they so desired. This is a hypothetical "threat".
Posted by:hassDecember 18, 2007 10:16:09 PMRespond ^
This is the new method that neocons have chosen to discredit NIE report. We have to remember that half of the Senate's election campaign money comes from the Israeli lobby and one Israli lobby spends about 200 million dollars a year to shape US's Middle East policy through media and politicians. A concerted effort has started to discredit NIE report in many various ways. One method is the used above. Also IAEA has never found any smoking gun in Iran. Iran has a right to enrichment according to NPT agreement. That is what is very seldom discussed.You cannot bomb a country based on perceived intentions.
Posted by:John EdgarDecember 18, 2007 11:42:58 PMRespond ^
This is a blatant jewist hit piece on the intelligence community's firm position that Iran does not pose a nuclear threat to the west. The jews wonder why they have been historically persecuted...look no further than this piece for examples....
Posted by:Nietzsche, F.WDecember 19, 2007 10:21:55 AMRespond ^
One more thing....Mother Jones has finally discredited itself as a progressive "American" news magazine...and this kind of slated journalism means only one thing....I'll leave that conclusion up to the critical thinkers that surf in here...Want ruth? Read Counterpunch.org!!!
Posted by:Nietzsche, F.WDecember 19, 2007 10:31:24 AMRespond ^
Rozen has impeccable leftist credentials, and to slam what she writes as rightist propaganda is childish. The entire world knows that Iran's enrichment scheme is solely for weapon creation purposes. To hide from these facts makes you even more foolish than, well, Mother Jones' editorial staff itself.
Posted by:MichaelDecember 19, 2007 1:18:13 PMRespond ^
While much of this article is valuable, and points well-taken, Rozen would have done well to point out the background of those whom she describes, simply, as "hawks." I'll cite one example: David Wurmser, identified in the article only as an aide to Bolton and an advisor to Cheney. Wurmser is in fact deeply embedded in neocon circles. He was one of the architects of, and propagandists for, the Iraq invasion. He is a longtime supporter of notorious liar Ahmad Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress. He's been involved with the Project for a New American Century and together with his wife, Meyrav, Richard Perle, and others, advised Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in 1996 to end Oslo, eliminate land for peace deals with the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations, and eliminate Arafat. These neocon circles have been working for decades to ensure that military and paramilitary covert-operations means are the primary, if not the only, policy tools employed by Washington, thereby fattening the military-industrial complex about which President Eisenhower famously warned. Information on Wurmser: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_Wurmser Information on the history of the cabal to which he belongs: http://www.voltairenet.org/article30118.html Identifying people such as this simply as "hawks" and "advisors" to Bolton and Cheney, without discussing their decades-long background, distorts the story and disserves the readers.
Posted by:Jim MartinDecember 19, 2007 1:56:20 PMRespond ^
Wow, this comment system has never heard of paragraph breaks. Amazing.
Posted by:Jim MartinDecember 19, 2007 1:57:54 PMRespond ^
Without a doubt, the Israeli lobby is quite powerful. But half the Senate's election campaign $ coming from the Lobby? You'd better be ready to back that up with credible sources, not just your say-so.
Posted by:Jim MartinDecember 19, 2007 1:59:55 PMRespond ^
Hey Fritz, thanks for the Jew-hatred. So refreshing. Crawl back under your Nazi rock and come out when you're ready to discuss issues intelligently instead of engaging in Jew-baiting.
Posted by:Jim MartinDecember 19, 2007 2:01:24 PMRespond ^
This is the most unreasoned diatribe I have heard in the long time. Why does Mother Jones' have Laura Rozen Jones as a National Security Correspondent? There is a lot to complain about here, but let me settle on just one point. Most correspondents say "Iran's nuclear program" which is exceedingly inprecise. There are two kinds of nuclear programs, a nuclear power program and a nuclear weaspons program. Dispite what "the experts" say there is a huge difference between them. A nuclear weapon program is much more difficult and expensive than the other. One is legal and other is illegal for a nuclear treaty signee. Iran has a right to build a nuclear power plant. We do not have the right to go to war with Iran if they build a nuclear power plant. We can permit Iran to build one without making it easy for them to build nuclear weapon. Russia is trying to do it. We could make a similar agreement if we only use a little diplomacy. We wouldn't work with North Korea, so they ended up building nuclear weapons. Finally, we used diplomacy, and now North Korea is willing to work with us. North Korea finally decided (after the Republican Congress refused to fund the Clinton North Korean agreement) that the only way to deal equally with the United States, is to build a nuclear weapon. We insisted that Iraq give us its WMD programs, so they did. Then we invaded them. That must have really impressed the North Koreans and Iranians. We are really buddy buddy with nuclear India and Pakistan because they developed nuclear weapons. That too must have impressed the North Koreans and Iranians.
Posted by:Thomas WattsDecember 19, 2007 2:21:01 PMRespond ^
If Israel wishes to continue the genocide of Arabs let them do it with their own blood, their own money and their own reputation (such as it is). They should leave us out of their grand biblical plans for a greater Israel(and who knows what else after that). Washington should cut them loose and apologize for our criminal complicity.
Posted by:FrankDecember 19, 2007 2:26:05 PMRespond ^
“His views on the Holocaust and other issues are reprehensible” his views on holocaust is based on all the information that is not publicly available to people in western countries. It is amazing that in a country such as US that freedom of speech is advocated all the time, it’s illegal to openly debate the holocaust. Is there something that Jews don’t want us to know? If Ahmadinejat has the nerves to go to Colombia University to say what he thinks is right, perhaps it is about the time Jews need to come out with their proofs.
Posted by:DanyDeeDecember 19, 2007 4:20:21 PMRespond ^
Right, DanyDee. There's two sides to every story, and it's wrong to suppress one side. For example, some claim that the Earth is round (technically, an oblate spheroid); others say it's flat. It's wrong to muzzle the flat-earthers and it's time for the round-Earthers to come out with their proofs. Actually, the "information" you tout is "available" in Western countries. Robert Faurisson lives in France, which, last time I checked, is a Western country. The Institute for Historical Review is based in the United States. (BTW, the Institute for Historical Review in 1985 had to make good on its promise to pay $50,000 to anyone with verifiable proof of the existence of extermination gas chambers. There's some proof for you.) You can find more proof at www.nizkor.org -- although I don't think you're really looking for proof, or any proof will be good enough for you.
Posted by:Jim MartinDecember 19, 2007 7:58:29 PMRespond ^
If the (Cheney) administration had been bluffing about this (World War III) business than the IIE report would indeed have weakened it. On the other hand as just having commented on an article put out by the American Jewish Committee, there are only two reasons to attack a country if one is bound to so: A. Because the other country does not have the weapons. B. Because the other country does have the weapons. But has there ever been any sense to war?
Posted by:GPFrankDecember 19, 2007 10:23:18 PMRespond ^
Why are we so focused on getting Iran to stop enriching uranium? Iran signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, which gives it the right to develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. Granted, they haven't always been keen on sticking to their safeguard agreement, but that just means that we should be pressuring them to allow more comprehensive inspections. It doesn't mean that we (or the UN Security Council) has the right to force them to stop entirely. So why do so few journalists mention this when they're talking about Iran and its nuclear program?
Posted by:EdDecember 19, 2007 10:25:46 PMRespond ^
Israel has 400 nuclear weapons, and the USA has 10,000. With enemies like these, Iran has every right to defend itself however it sees fit. I hope they do build a nuclear bomb!
Posted by:zarathustraDecember 20, 2007 6:53:30 AMRespond ^
How can a country with posible one or two imanginary bombs can be a threat to so called international comunity? Ms. Rozen should apply for a position with FOX News, where there are numerous reports like you work at.
Posted by:Ken HatoriDecember 20, 2007 8:27:54 AMRespond ^
Funny that no article I've read that suggests Iran is dangerous to us mentions the huge amounts of oil in that country and their previous success in ridding themselves of our oppressive rule. Anybody remember the Shah? That was our guy. Ever since the people of Iran overthrew that dictator and replaced him with their preferred form of government we have made any diplomatic relations with them exceedingly difficult. Could it be that the current administration, many of whose members were around to enjoy the glory days of the Shah, are still mad? Could it be that they still want a little revenge? Ask Fidel Castro how far these people will carry a grudge.
Posted by:JakeDecember 20, 2007 9:30:18 AMRespond ^
So Israel has 400 nuclear weapons? Then telling me the number of the next Lotto winner should be right up your alley. Or maybe you just picked a number out of your butt, zarathustra.
Posted by:MichaelDecember 20, 2007 8:15:42 PMRespond ^
The only danger that comes from Ahmadinejad is his mouth. Check his speech. While it is challenging and provocative, especially to Westerners and Iranians that want to be nice to the West he doesn't--smears not withstanding--ever advocate wars or attacks on any nations, including Israel. The 'wiped of the face of the map' is from a single utterance in 2005, a mistranslation of a quote of Khomeini when he was covering for his sourcing of spare parts for the American military equipment from Israel. Iran's whole defense budget is somewhere around 2 stealth bombers--in other words it is a DEFENSE budget. Ahmadinejad isn't in charge of defense, isn't the commander in chief and isn't ultimately responsible for the nuclear policy--they fall to the supreme leader. The ehole Amdinejad thing is pure hype, which does Amdinejad no harm, especially in the Arab street where they love him because he doesn't submit to our world views but stacks to his own--and to be sure we find that darned uncomfortable and we aren't used to it. Check out his Spiegel interview at Salon: http://tinyurl.com/2nuaaz Of course many Europeans and Americans and Iranians will find it wrong and reprehensible and find it very distressing that it has tarnished the ancient tolerance of Jews in Iran (the largest community outside Israel). However the hysteria in the West has been ridiculous, and that is actually his main point, that we seem to still be deeply troubled by the whole issue and it may be colouring our judgment--decide for yourself. This article seems to assume that Iran's UN Charter rights, reaffirmed and amphasised under the NPT can simply removed by the US and the West because they have decided Iran can't be trusted, especially where the security of second-strike nuclear-armed Israel is concerned. This is not a view to be found outside the West. The NIE has exposed the hyped up fear mongering. That is why sanctions will now be an impossible sell--the hyping, the creating our own reality, which has now gotten snagged on the real reality.
Posted by:Chris DornanDecember 21, 2007 8:37:40 AMRespond ^
"Rozen has impeccable leftist credentials, and to slam what she writes as rightist propaganda is childish. The entire world knows that Iran's enrichment scheme is solely for weapon creation purposes. To hide from these facts makes you even more foolish than, well, Mother Jones' editorial staff itself." So your saying you can't leftist and pro -war? ALLEN DERSHOWITZ is pro war and this a pro-zionist hit piece!
Posted by:KEVIN BRINEGARDecember 22, 2007 8:05:27 AMRespond ^
"So Israel has 400 nuclear weapons? Then telling me the number of the next Lotto winner should be right up your alley. Or maybe you just picked a number out of your butt, zarathustra." Vanunu told Israel had nukes year ago [deleted]tard!
Posted by:KEVIN BRINEGARDecember 22, 2007 8:17:51 AMRespond ^
The president of Iran, whatever he says, is largely a hood ornament. He's definitely not the driver. So for all the silly things he says, we don't really need to worry about him as much as we should worry about what the Supreme Leader says. Iran has a vested interest in keeping the keeping uncertainty high, as this inflates the price of oil. However, they gain nothing by actually starting a war. All the saber-rattling (and make no mistake, that's all it is) is doing is keeping prices up, and keeping the silly game going.
Posted by:mullingitoverDecember 26, 2007 11:51:12 AMRespond ^
I hope that Iran will soon have a nuclear bomb. Only then the Israel will start treat Palestinians like humans or ...
Posted by:JackDecember 28, 2007 7:56:11 PMRespond ^
How many of you remember when the Israelis bombed the Iranian Nuclear facility? I believe that was in 2003...There has been a lot of ruckus going on since then - sanctions, etc. I think that makes it rather difficult to come back from the raid. Besides, I think there's more to the allegations than meets the eye. Consider this...BP & 5 U.S. oil companies lost their assets in Iran when the Shah of Iran (the guy we put into power) was shown the door. That put Iran in the same doghouse that Cuba has lived in for decades. Why? Because they had the audacity to challenge U. S. interests and nationalize Iranian oil assets. Good Grief!!! We had Don Rumsfeld coordinate the transfer of intel & weapons to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War during the '80's! That's how much of a grudge we had against Iran for what they did. We need to consider whether or not all of the "debate" over nuclear development is legitimate. After all, remember the debate over WMD in Iraq? Remember the MI-6 agent who died within 48 hours of challenging the statement that Great Britain had proof? Years later, as I understand it, they have still yet to be produced... The motive for starting a war with Iran is there...Can we stop it from happening? I hope so! We should not accept the word of the Israelis on this matter because they flew through Jordanian & Syrian airspace to bomb Iran. The Israelis "reliability" on the subject is rather questionable due to their ongoing struggle with Hezbollah...Iran is reputedly a sponsor, a rather generous one, for that organization.
Posted by:ChuckDecember 30, 2007 12:20:54 AMRespond ^
While using NIE report to forget continue due diligence, I am concerned that some in the government feel that this information should not be in the hands of the electorate. As if the electorate is totally without intelligence. I would suggest that the problem with the electorate as an influence on congress and the president is that they have lacked adequate unbiased information from which to make logical conclusions. I would argue that more information and open dialogue would in the long run lead to peaceful solutions.
Posted by:Betty CarlisleJanuary 1, 2008 10:14:34 AMRespond ^
Michael writes: "So Israel has 400 nuclear weapons? Then telling me the number of the next Lotto winner should be right up your alley. Or maybe you just picked a number out of your butt, zarathustra." -- Nice try, Michael. According to the Federation of American Scientists, estimates of Israel's nuclear stockpile range from 70 to 400 weapons. The DIA estimated in 1999 that Israel had 60-80 nuclear weapons. So these aren't numbers that Zarathustra or anyone else is pulling out of their butt. Analysis, with sources, at http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
Posted by:Jim MartinJanuary 7, 2008 12:43:18 PMRespond ^
Come on everyone,if Iran did'nt have one of the worlds largest oil reserves we would'nt give them much more than a second thought,or I should say the oil companys that help make are foreign policy would'nt.
Posted by:HankJanuary 8, 2008 1:09:00 PMRespond ^
I like girlz!
Posted by:Gordy HaroldFebruary 14, 2008 5:15:06 PMRespond ^
Right On!!!!
Posted by:DavidFebruary 14, 2008 5:17:49 PMRespond ^

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