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Washington Dispatch: Why the controversial private security company wants to run congressional candidate Marshall Adame "out of Dodge."

January 28, 2008


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Marshall Adame is a Democrat running for Congress in North Carolina's 3rd District, a jurisdiction along the Tar Heel state's low-lying eastern coast that is home to the U.S. Marine Corps' Camp Lejeune, Air Station Cherry Point, and Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, as well as Blackwater Worldwide's 7,000-acre corporate headquarters and training facility. Adame is an underdog in the congressional race, where he will likely face seven-term Republican incumbent Walter B. Jones—who brought the term "freedom fries" to Congress—in the general election. Jones has since become an opponent of the Iraq war, atoning for his vote to authorize the war by writing letters of condolence to the families of dead soldiers—a "mea culpa to my Lord," he says. But the incumbent and his Republican party are not the only obstacles Adame will have to overcome if he hopes to take over the 3rd District's congressional seat. He also faces tough opposition from Blackwater.

Despite running as a Democrat in a strongly Republican district, Adame has the sort of military past that is appreciated in these parts. "I am a retired United States Marine," he tells me. "I'm a Vietnam veteran. I spent nine months in Kuwait right after we kicked Saddam out, helping to rebuild the Kuwaiti air force. I spent four years in Egypt with Kaman Aerospace"—a military contractor—"as their logistics leader in that country." More recently, he spent three years in Iraq working on reconstruction projects, ultimately rising to a senior position with the State Department's National Coordination Team in Baghdad, where he oversaw the work of roughly ten Provincial Reconstruction Teams. Two of his sons have served in the U.S. Army in Iraq—one was seriously wounded in an IED attack and is still undergoing reconstructive surgeries; the other is currently on his second 15-month tour, stationed in Tikrit. Now back in North Carolina, Adame has even opened his home to a family of Iraqi refugees.

Yet Adame's recent public criticism of the private security industry's role in Iraq has caused him to become the target of a political attack from Blackwater. It all began in mid-January when Adame participated in a live question-and-answer forum on a North Carolina progressive blog called BlueNC. "People were writing in, and I was answering the questions," he says. "It just so happened that the first one was about Blackwater." He didn't mince words. "There is no place in the American force structure, or in American culture for mercenaries," he wrote on the blog. "They are guns for hire; No more, no less… Private Armies represent the very things we despise as a people. Servants to the highest bidder with true allegiance to no-one."

Numerous Democratic candidates, including presidential contenders Barack Obama and North Carolina's own John Edwards, have assailed Blackwater, an easy target this election cycle. But Adame claims to speak from personal experience. As a State Department official in Iraq, he was protected by Blackwater, which, he says, used excessive force on at least two occasions while he was in their care. "I saw them shoot people," he says. "I saw them crash into cars while I was their passenger…. There was absolutely no reason, no provocation whatsoever." Once, while en route to the Iraqi Ministry of Interior, Adame says he heard gunfire coming from the turret gunner in his own vehicle. He looked out the window of the humvee and "saw people ducking and falling…. The vehicle in front of us rammed into a car that was trying to get out of the way, and they just spun that guy around. He was out cold in that car, maybe even dead. I don't know, but we just kept on going."

Adame's comments about the company have enraged Blackwater employees, including executive vice president Bill Mathews. In an internal corporate email, Mathews encouraged his colleagues to barrage Adame with mail ("he was too cowardly to put a phone number on the web," Mathews noted in the message). "[H]e wants this company and all of us to cease to exist," Mathews wrote in the email, which was obtained by the Raleigh News & Observer and posted to the newspaper's web site. "Do you like your jobs? Are you sick and tired of the slanderous bullshit going on in DC? If so, would you all mind joining me in reminding Mr. Adame that he is running for office in our backyard…. Let's run this goof out of Dodge...!"

Since then, Adame has been on the receiving end of "some pretty rough stuff,” he says. "I received all kinds of hate mail from Blackwater people. They use a lot of vulgarity. They tell me how Blackwater is defending America's rights, and that we're free because Blackwater is fighting for us. Give me a break! That is so erroneous and misleading. It's just totally dishonest, but those people really believe it. Blackwater is a large organization, and they have a great way of propagandizing their product."

For its part, Blackwater is unrepentant for the harsh words Adame has received from its employees. "Mr. Mathews regrets that he wrote an inappropriate email in haste," says Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell in a statement. "He does not regret for one moment his desire to defend the brave people who risk their lives every day working for Blackwater." Tyrrell says Adame "used inaccuracies to unfairly criticize the company" and notes that "one thing that should be taken away from Mr. Matthew's email is that our people are incredibly proud of and passionate about the work we do in support of the U.S. government."

Adame, who plans to hold a campaign event near Blackwater's Moyock headquarters next month, is quick to point out that he has received no threats of physical harm from Blackwater, and despite some obscene emails, has engaged in constructive conversations with some of its employees. "These people don't want to lose their jobs, and I understand that," he says. Indeed, looming larger than the issue of military contracting in his district is concern over domestic priorities like health care and jobs. Still, Adame's recent confrontation with Blackwater seems to have focused his attention on the company. "I feel very strongly about how extensively organized Blackwater has become," he explains. "And I will do everything I can as a congressman to look into that, to find out whether or not the things they're doing are even legal."

It's an open question what this particular campaign promise might do to Adame's chances.

Bruce Falconer is a reporter in Mother Jones' Washington, D.C., bureau.



 

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Blackwater IS a mercenary company. I agree 100% with Adame's characterization of this band of evil, murderous cutthroats. Blackwater operates outside the law in Iraq and tried to do the same here in the US. They need to be investigated for criminal activities by the Department of Justice. But don't hold your breath waiting for that while Chimpy is Preznit. Moo-Crazy would never investigate his Blackwater pals.
Posted by:Tom3January 29, 2008 7:22:49 AMRespond ^
It just amazes me that people are not afraid of what Blackwater represents. Their organization is a private army hired to do the administrations work. That should instill fear in every single American Citizen.
Posted by:JeannieJanuary 29, 2008 8:14:26 AMRespond ^
I have to agree with the article. And, it's just a matter of time before these same mercenary's are let loose on American citizens (if they haven't already during Katrina).
Posted by:ncObserverJanuary 29, 2008 8:17:38 AMRespond ^
Mr. Adame is to be commended. He clearly represents a threat to the scum-bag mercenaries that are nothing more than an internal threat to our democracy. That these trigger-happy nutcases think of themselves as somehow protecting Americans is ludicrous. I wish Mr. Adame success, and may he go after these cretins hammer-and-tongs.
Posted by:DionysisJanuary 29, 2008 8:21:53 AMRespond ^
Send this guy some cash. These MERCS need to be driven back across the Rubicon and they can drown in the sea for all I care. First, they need to be disarmed like they disarmed American citizens in leagal possession of firearms in NOLA. They are unAmerican and it is their duty to ruin our real Military as well as be the vehicle delivering stolen profits to the profiteers.
Posted by:mparkerJanuary 29, 2008 8:41:42 AMRespond ^
The only organization that 'should get out of Dodge' is Blackwater itself. Let them base themselves in Tel Aviv to watch over all the Likud Party bosses. They are probably partially funded by Likudniks anyway.
Posted by:Fielding MelishJanuary 29, 2008 8:44:21 AMRespond ^
Blackwater must be purged from this country, and criminalized altogether. Along with companies like MPRI and Executive Outcomes. They're ALL nothing but mercenary thugs in the private sector who murder people for money. Cut and dry. The very fact that the U.S. government contracts them at all is proof posative that what they do is completely illegal, and so by contracting a private mercenary company to do so, they absolve U.S. troops of any wrong doing and obfuscates the truth of the situation because there's too many parties running amock around the world. But not only should Blackwater, MPRI, and others be purged and criminalized, but their shareholders need to be held accountable, and the very fact that these are for the most part PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES, then we must acknowlege that the PUBLIC is also complicit and needs to be held accountable as well, for even permitting these companies to be traded on the stock market. Better yet... eliminate speculation marketing, stocks and what-not altogether, and you elminate half the problem, and put the investor class on a collision course with something they're absolutely terrified of... Having to EARN money for real, instead of existing on the buying and selling of others in markets simply based on emotional stability of a few insiders.
Posted by:BearJanuary 29, 2008 8:52:36 AMRespond ^
I consider myself a real conservative, not a neocon, and I do NOT like the idea of Blackwater at all. They were the thugs taking guns away from homeowners after hurricane Katrina. I want them and those like them GONE. Mr. Adame is no coward. He is right there for any those scumbags who want a piece of him.
Posted by:Richard CarpenterJanuary 29, 2008 8:54:04 AMRespond ^
So, they do a fine job do they!! Well then why do they object to being subject to Iraqi law? No answer boys? I thought not.
Posted by:Fred54January 29, 2008 9:00:14 AMRespond ^
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Posted by:avraam jackJanuary 29, 2008 9:05:08 AMRespond ^
Good for him. I wish I lived in his area so I could vote for him. We DON'T WANT A MERCENARY company in our country! PERIOD!!!
Posted by:Todd DowneyJanuary 29, 2008 9:34:13 AMRespond ^
Black water are the dregs of the scum of the earth- rapists, criminals and torturing blackhearted sadist's who undermine American military tradition to say nothing of the Laws of the United States. Remember the Blackwater motto "Use Blackwater for that tingly fresh just tazed-rapped and shot in the face feeling!" I hope that an American with old values will displace the cowardly liar and traitor that sent American kids to die for a lie and has no remorse just plenty of money.
Posted by:KungfubloodJanuary 29, 2008 9:50:36 AMRespond ^
The real question should be this: Do you see Blackwater as part of the growing trend to privatize another aspect of our military which was previously handled by those serving? If so, why is privatizing better for America in ensuring American security? Does it not cost more to have a private army? Do they fall under the same legal requirments that those serving fall under? Personally I beleive this is another way that the Republicans pander to the military community by offering previuosly serving members an ability to collect a check because they have very few skills sets which give them the ability to retain the same wage as when they were serving. This makes the Republicans look good but what they don't see is that they are taking jobs away from those currently serving by the mere fact that previous military jobs are now carried out by contractors, who for the most part cost more. Privitization in its current form seems to be giving the military and America a bad name, KBR overcharged and lost millions of dollars, Halliburton did the same, and Blackwater is accused of killing innocent civilians which undermines the militaries ability to capture hearts and minds. The military industrial complex is here and it is up to good citizens like Mr.Adame and many more to stop this madness and lawlessness! Gotta go, Stay solid!
Posted by:Josh-QuasimotoJanuary 29, 2008 9:51:40 AMRespond ^
If these people were so patriotic, then they could take a pay cut and do the same work for US military pay grades. Private armies are dangerous in every way imaginable.
Posted by:SeanJanuary 29, 2008 9:51:54 AMRespond ^
I'm conservative -- and I agree with Adame. Mercenaries and especially blackwater have no place in the American foreign policy or the military. The use of mercenaries only weakens our own military and our position abroad. This should not nor should it ever be a conservative/liberal issue. It is simply wrong.
Posted by:MartinJanuary 29, 2008 9:58:20 AMRespond ^
Mercenary organizations, I would think would be illegal under newer laws, but we were setup by the powerful to accept this. Tey glorified the bounty hunters, playing cops, breaking and entering, bullying and just plain being legalized criminals. We the people sat back and let our constitution sit there without updating. We did not require our representatives to represent us. We did not require our laws to be updated or taken off the books when no longer needed. We totally failed our constitution and ourselves. Mercenary armies are surrounding our country, getting ready to control the masses. the government uses them at places like power generating plants,I guess they can't trust us civilians to protect our own property. thanks for this blog and I hope Adame doesn't end up a victim of a plane crash or other convenient accident. Wake Up America, its latter than you think!
Posted by:Ranselar VanDerpoelJanuary 29, 2008 10:12:13 AMRespond ^
if blackwater is trying to blackball any candidate, that candidate is the one people should vote for...
Posted by:Chuck HarrisJanuary 29, 2008 10:16:04 AMRespond ^
"I have to agree with the article. And, it's just a matter of time before these same mercenary's are let loose on American citizens (if they haven't already during Katrina)." They absolutely did kill people in New Orleans. My next door neigbhor worked for Blackwater in New Orleans, and he personally told me he sprayed a woman there with machine gun fire...killed her on the spot! He said it was total war zone there at the time. Blackwater against the locals.
Posted by:ScubyDooJanuary 29, 2008 10:22:30 AMRespond ^
I hope the next president has the balls and the courage to put this slimy mercenary factory out of business.
Posted by:SamirJanuary 29, 2008 10:44:06 AMRespond ^
if anyone knows any blackwater people they should be outed and have their names and addresses posted on the net .. and whatever happens, happenes.
Posted by:ralphieJanuary 29, 2008 11:02:04 AMRespond ^
Thanks so much for standing up to those thugs, M. Adame!! I attended a press conference held in Portland, OR for Michael Chertoff last fall and actually had the opportunity to ask him and the local pols a question. I asked under what circumstances in a terrorism scenario would DHS or local politicians be likely to call on private security companies, like Blackwater, and I asked him to reference the Katrina situation. He skirted the question, saying that private citizens have a right to hire private security, but it visibly irritated him. There is a write-up in the local indymedia, if of interest. Thanks to B. Falconer, too!!
Posted by:StyveJanuary 29, 2008 11:20:41 AMRespond ^
It seems to me that there's a disquieting whiff of the cult about Blackwater. And I think there's more than enough evidence that many of their employees are little more than murderous thugs.
Posted by:David Hart DykeJanuary 29, 2008 11:28:31 AMRespond ^
I almost wish I lived in No. Carolina so I could vote for Mr. Adame. We have so few politicians and candidates who will actually tell what they personally have seen and know about and are not suject to threats or payoffs. Its easier to go along, take the money and keep their mouths shut. My congratulations and wishes for your success Mr. Adame.
Posted by:Elisabeth HamJanuary 29, 2008 11:49:46 AMRespond ^
Go Adame! Josh Quasimodo asked: Do mercenaries fall under the same legal requirments that those serving fall under? I'd ask more specifically, do they deserve protection under the Geneva Convention? Consider a Baghdad family that has been victimized by Blackwater's jittery fingers, a family that has lost a loved one. In their efforts to obtain justice, they might capture a Blackwater employee. Things might get out of hand and subsequently they might torture him. If so, would they be inviting formal international condemnation? After all, the Geneva Convention prohibits torture of captured enemy combatants. Or are Blackwater employees the US equivalent of the unlucky battlefield pedestrians who ended up in Guantanamo? In that case then, by Bush's own logic, anything goes.
Posted by:o'scrodJanuary 29, 2008 12:00:33 PMRespond ^
This should really be a call to arms for all citizens (regardless of party affiliation). The brazen manner in which Blackwater conducts itself has gotten out of control. The fact that the executive vice president has the audacity to send out a memo implicitly (or not so implicitly) urging Blackwater's employees to send Adame "mostly professional" messages and run him out of town is alarming. Adame is a patriot who has served this country for the majority of his life and his family has continued serving it (and, from what I have read, paying a high price). Everyone should lend this candidate some support. His website: www.marshalladame4congress2008.com
Posted by:NCenvtlJanuary 29, 2008 12:10:09 PMRespond ^
It seems to me that since most Blackwater employees are former military personnel they have no need to fear losing their jobs or supporting democracy. All they need to do is get called back into the service of their country and rejoin the military of the United States Government. Why is that Blackwater personnel are not called back in when IRR, Reserve, and National Guard members are being called back and being redeployed without end? Marshall Adame is to be commended for his Patriotism and his heroics in calling it like he sees it. I think Americans should be very afraid of a mercenary army in its midst.
Posted by:Fred DysteJanuary 29, 2008 12:26:25 PMRespond ^
Blackwater=MercenaryMurder
Posted by:radiiJanuary 29, 2008 12:31:23 PMRespond ^
Didn't someone once write something to the effect of... "...He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation." Why should we now, 2 centuries on, put up with home-grown Hessians?
Posted by:MLGJanuary 29, 2008 12:38:27 PMRespond ^
Why would anyone vote to destroy America by voting for another RepubliCON president? I don't care who either party nominates, I will be voting for the Democrat. RepubliCONs have had their chance and they have ruined America. I will NEVER vote for any republiCON again, not even for dog catcher.
Posted by:XrepublicanJanuary 29, 2008 1:08:29 PMRespond ^
NOTE TO BILL MATTHEWS: Go Cheney yourself, asswipe. Marshall Adame is right about you goddamned [deleted]s.
Posted by:mannyJanuary 29, 2008 1:09:56 PMRespond ^
Wake up and smell the gathering fascism... The Blackwater agenda is no different than that of the bootjack thugs that helped Adolf Hitler rise to power in 1933. Historically, any of the current excuses that attempt to justify the need for supporting Blackwater's existence, are no different than the same reasons heard in support of Hitler's motives when he said "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." and "How fortunate for leaders that men do not think."
Posted by:TreetopflyerJanuary 29, 2008 3:13:49 PMRespond ^
Who is this forgetful little upstart? he is a Vietnam vet and he says that "mercenaries" have no place in the american military? Has he forgotten the Tiger Force of the Vietnam War who went around killing for the fun of it? yet he is hysterical about the use of these monsters in Iraq, hmmm, me doth thinketh that the fop protesteth way too much and a bit soft in the head.
Posted by:LuathJanuary 29, 2008 3:19:26 PMRespond ^
Why do people not see how this very same type of mercenary army could very easily be used on our own streets when our own loyal military realizes what's going on and refuses to march our roadways against his fellow citizen? Hitler had a private army that replaced the German army. They were loyal to HIM, not the nation. If Blackwater cared about America and was operating in the interests of the people who live in the states of the Union it would care about the reputation of our nation - it doesn't. They are just a whore who cares very little for their John that pays for it all and instead praise like God their pimps, the CORPORATE U.S. government who arranges the payment.
Posted by:sharpinchitownJanuary 29, 2008 3:23:45 PMRespond ^
After reading this story I went to Marshall Adame's website and made a contribution to his campaign. Afterward I called Blackwater in NC and told them what I had just done, and further told them them that Blackwater's joyride is over. If the moderator will permit it, anyone else wishing to contribute to Marshall's campaign can click on this link: http://www.marshalladame4congress2008.com/ Then get in Blackwater's face and tell them you just made a donation to Adame's campaign. Blackwater's phone no.: (252) 435-2488
Posted by:Paul MillerJanuary 29, 2008 4:15:41 PMRespond ^
he is right, Blackwater is what America is fighting against, private armies killing without cause. They should all be forced to walk through Bagdads worse neighborhood, unarmed, with a sign on their backs saying "we work for Blackwater", and then get what they have given out the past 6 years. They are nothing more than money hungry killers that have been given permission from Bush & Co. to do as they please.
Posted by:tonyJanuary 29, 2008 4:26:14 PMRespond ^
When someone mentioned cult, it just brought a funny thought to my mind. No one seems to mention Erik Prince(Mr. Blackwater) being the brother of Betsy DeVos (nee Prince). Betsy's hubby, Dick DeVos many may recognize as one of the major heirs to the Amway throne. This is one of the reasons that Erik Prince moved so quickly into the administration of the first Bush, and how his business became so important to the second Bush. Food for thought.
Posted by:wrantJanuary 29, 2008 5:02:49 PMRespond ^
lets see, american citizens with guns....tens of millions... blackwater with guns...maybe 10000.... bring em on....
Posted by:screwy louieJanuary 29, 2008 6:12:06 PMRespond ^
If even half of what Adame says about Blackwater's behavior in Iraq is true (and I suspect it is) then Blackwater is an absolute disgrace to America. Real Americans never kill innocent civilians for the fun of it - never! People who do that sort of thing are evil, disgusting beasts who should not be allowed to return to this country. What is "Blackwater" anyway? It sounds like very filthy water - maybe something that belongs in the toilet and then on to the sewer.
Posted by:ThomasJanuary 29, 2008 6:33:57 PMRespond ^
Only under this current administration could an operation like Blackwater exist (I hope). It's insane that they go around murdering Iraqi civilians, and face no accountability from Iraq or the U.S....Yes, the American people should be scared, and angry. Especially upset should be our true Military Officers, who would face court martial for such. We know Adame is telling the truth! How many people need to speak up and say they've seen Blackwater employees casually, randomly murdering people in Iraq? These are brutes, people on a lower-level of evolution, in my opinion--definitely psychotic, and to let them march around with automatic assault rifles and kill innocent citizens is insane. Who can say when they might be turned against us? I wonder if this topic will be brought up in the Presidential election, and what the candidates will have to say about it.
Posted by:AlanJanuary 29, 2008 6:59:02 PMRespond ^
this is the biggest BS I have ever read. You are trying to rail road a company, for whatever reason that is unknown to me, that has nothing but helped fight the war on terrorism. To make Iraq or Afghanistan look like a sleeping, peaceful beauty, is utterly ridiculous. There are terrorists , hello, who bury nail bombs into the ground , waiting for our soldiers and other civillians to run over them and getting blown up. Blackwater is a high risk security company. Who protects state department personell , members of Congress when they are visiing Iraq and Afghanistan, and yes even the media and press , who cowardly doesn't mention when they get pulled out of tight spots by Blackwater, just like recently in Afghanistan. Blackwater men are highly motivated to keep all personel in their care secure and safe. That you can't treat a terrorist with kid gloves is obvious. That there are some bad apples in a bunch is as true in the Army, Navy and Airforce as with Blackwater. People who accuse Blackwater of operating outside the law, and calling these brave men scum bags, have never even laid eyes on one Blackwater employee in person. Why don't you let us show you pictures and proof when Blackwater men go to an orphanage in Afghanistan , delivering shoes for children they collected at home. I could name other activities Blackwater men do for peace, but I stop there. To unjustly accuse these brave men, who have a history of honorable service, as police officers, air marshalls, Seals, Swat team members, and other highly regarded positions. Shame on you America. If Blackwater men were not needed, they wouldn't be there.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 29, 2008 7:18:47 PMRespond ^
Considering we should not be "there" in the 1st place, no they aren't needed. Considering they are mostly ex-military and used to "obeying" orders, ie., doing exactly as told without questioning, and now working in an environment with NO accountability to anyone except their corporate master, no we do not need them "there". Considering they are costing the taxpayer a horrendous amount of money performing the same function(s) our military has done in the past at a fraction of the cost, no we do not need them "there". Now who do you suppose you would find in their list of investors? Sure there would be common people, but you can bet there will be a massive amount of people with ties to the government and DOD.
Posted by:constitutionalretrieverJanuary 29, 2008 8:30:35 PMRespond ^
I hope Adame is elected, for we need him but not Blackwater and its attitudes.
Posted by:Audrey ButcherJanuary 29, 2008 11:17:39 PMRespond ^
Private armies cannot function indefinitely, because they end up as a threat to whomever originally hired them. Two examples; the Knights Templar, very big during the crusades, very crispy when the crusades were over and the French king feared their power. Also, Hitler's private SA, a bunch of thugs, many of them pedophiles, were massacred by the Nazis during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 because they were not just a threat to the Nazi image, but their leader, Ernst Roehm, was not a team player. I do not mean to say that Blackwater cannot stand alone and unchallenged for long; on the contrary, they need to be put out of our misery quickly before they develop the kind of semi-autonomy and esprit de corps that made the aforementioned so dangerous and their eventual destruction so bloody.
Posted by:BlynnJanuary 29, 2008 11:56:38 PMRespond ^
Ms Roess makes at least one valid point - in an organization as large as Blackwater there have to be a few people with intelligence and dignity. We need to support them when they choose to come forward. Those who claim that Blackwater and similar mercenaries are doing the average American a favor by fighting the war on terror need to go lie down. Like Ms Roess, they have downed the warmongers' highball in one gulp. It's a cocktail of unjustified fear, prejudice and arrogance and it's poured from a fancy bottle whose label says "Jesus and George Bush - 8 Years Old. Drink this and you'll feel better!" And thanks to wrant (great blog id!)for the tip on the Amway connection. Do the Blackwater board all have pink caddies parked behind their stables? Whoops! Wrong snowball scheme. Sorry Mary Kay.
Posted by:o'scrodJanuary 30, 2008 1:00:46 AMRespond ^
Do you like your Country? Are you sick and tired of the slanderous bull[deleted] going on in DC? If so, would you all mind joining me in reminding Blackwater that their office in our backyard…. Let's run these goofs out of Dodge.
Posted by:AlexJanuary 30, 2008 5:07:32 AMRespond ^
Translated into Spanish, "Blackwater" becomes "aguas negras", or the stuff that flows into the sewer when you flush the toilet. "Honorable Men", as Ms. Roess claims, is an oxymoron. Honorable vets would not dishonor their military service by becoming guns for hire, which is their bottom line. Personally, I would not so sully my honorable discharge.
Posted by:Jesus B. OchoaJanuary 30, 2008 5:23:35 AMRespond ^
yeah... number 3. Fascist America, in 10 easy steps 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy. 2. Create secret prisons where torture takes place. 3. Develop a thug caste or paramilitary force not answerable to citizens. 4. Set up an internal surveillance system. 5. Harass citizens' groups. 6.Engage in arbitrary detention and release. 7. Target key individuals. 8. Control the press. 9. Declare all dissent to be treason. 10. Suspend the rule of law. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
Posted by:concernedJanuary 30, 2008 5:44:09 AMRespond ^
If the US Government paid our soldiers what they pay Blackwater, we would problably have more people enlisting in the armed forces. Why should we pay Blackwater people our hard earned money when we have our own U.S. armed forces that could do the same thing. I do hope that Blackwater keeps up their assault. Drag the matter into the public eye. We want the world to see them for what they really are . . . a bunch of mercenaries taking jobs away from our soldiers . . . and weakening our armed forces. If Blackwater employees want to fight, they should enlist . . . period.
Posted by:bbcJanuary 30, 2008 6:18:58 AMRespond ^
Blackwater only reinforces the point through their actions. Adame is right, there is no room for mercenaries in the USA Ideal. They can't argue that, so they go on the attack. Way to go, Matthews. Force America to embrace your 'Suck'...
Posted by:A Fellow MarineJanuary 30, 2008 6:24:52 AMRespond ^
Semper Fi
Posted by:Marshall AdameJanuary 30, 2008 6:27:42 AMRespond ^
Maybe his rememberance of 'Tiger Force' like situations are exactly why he's opposed to Blackwater? Are you saying that you don't understand the argument, or that you just don't care?
Posted by:A Fellow MarineJanuary 30, 2008 6:29:22 AMRespond ^
Most of the posters here have made insightful comments that I agree with. One aspect that has not been mentioned is that many blackwater mercenaries are not American citizens, they are from all over the world. blackwater's role is not to uphold the Constitution because they have no investment in it. blackwater's role is simply to work for the highest bidder. By that I mean not just $$, but power for blackwater.
Posted by:MichaelJanuary 30, 2008 6:30:06 AMRespond ^
America's Corporate SS - Is Blackwater USA the Beginning of a Private Political Army? ....What we are seeing is the creation of a global governmental structure created strictly by, of and for corporate power. With large portions of the US military having become alienated by the blatantly corporate goals of the Iraq invasion and occupation global corporations cannot afford to be stymied by truly patriotic governmental military leaders. Values such as democracy, justice and accountability simply get in their way. If this sounds rather extreme or even impossible to you, let's not forget that this model has already been proven to work for some period of time - in Nazi Germany.... http://www.spymac.com/details/?2331523
Posted by:AngelaJanuary 30, 2008 6:39:09 AMRespond ^
America's Corporate SS - Is Blackwater USA the Beginning of a Private Political Army? ....What we are seeing is the creation of a global governmental structure created strictly by, of and for corporate power. With large portions of the US military having become alienated by the blatantly corporate goals of the Iraq invasion and occupation global corporations cannot afford to be stymied by truly patriotic governmental military leaders. Values such as democracy, justice and accountability simply get in their way. If this sounds rather extreme or even impossible to you, let's not forget that this model has already been proven to work for some period of time - in Nazi Germany.... http://www.spymac.com/details/?2331523
Posted by:AdolfJanuary 30, 2008 6:52:03 AMRespond ^
I totally agree. Too bad they were not around in 1940.
Posted by:A.HitlerJanuary 30, 2008 6:53:03 AMRespond ^
Cassandra Roess, It is you who are missing the bigger picture. Corporate mercenary organizations are less controlled and have less accountability that the government armed forces. There is more room for abuse. Historically, we've repeatedly been shown this through the ages. We're also seeing it again with Blackwater. Yes there are honorable men within that organization, the likes of which I've worked with (Seals, Delta, Green Berets, Force Recon, etc...). However, good men can go bad under the stresses that a combat zone brings. Take away accountability, and this is even more likely to occur. Mercenary organizations are just a bad idea any way you slice it. They always have been. Read a few history books if you must. In the Grand Scheme of things, if America is doing things on the up and up, mercenary forces aren't needed. This then begs the question of why are they so 'needed' now? Mr. Adame, I'm glad to see that you are reading through these comments. You are doing the right thing and people recognize it. Keep up the good fight. Don't let the uninformed masses drag you down - and to those masses. America wasn't founded by fearful men. It's ideals aren't: pre-emptive strikes/wars; torture; might makes right; our way, or the 'highway'; fascism; state sponsored terror & assassination; scratch my back and I'll scratch yours (Corruption)... Only the weak and fearful believe that Force is an appropriate solution to any situation, or that the 'ends' justify the 'means'... Chew on that.
Posted by:A Fellow MarineJanuary 30, 2008 6:57:14 AMRespond ^
Blackwater is a company that our own government hires to do the jobs that you pussies would complain about if you found out our own military did. Grow a set and wake up to how the real world works
Posted by:JoshJanuary 30, 2008 7:04:44 AMRespond ^
Hitler had his his "Sturm Abteilung" for his private army and Bush has his Blackwater. Its really this simple. Are we missing something?
Posted by:Darrell KernJanuary 30, 2008 7:05:08 AMRespond ^
Pussies, huh. What makes you an authority on that subject? You can't refute a rational position, so you start making statements like "If you only knew" and call people names. This is an instant red flag, but if you insist, I'll call you out. You want to find out how tough a 'peace-nik' can be? I'd invite you to step into a ring with me. Whatever style you want: Boxing, Kick-boxing, etc... I've had my share of beatings and dished out even more. So, don't call people names or question their 'toughness' because you can't or wont't debate their positions. So, if you want to back up your trash talking in a ring, let me know (I'm not saying I'll beat you, but I am saying that I'm willing to find out, and you won't soon forget our encounter). Otherwise, if you don't have any real point to make, do the rational folk on here a favor and keep your off topic comments to yourselves. And if you actually have some secret knowledge as to how the world really works, please share. Otherwise, keep your fiction to yourself, or go publish a book.
Posted by:A Fellow MarineJanuary 30, 2008 7:18:37 AMRespond ^
you people are so paranoid, does blackwater commit war crimes?? yes. Do U.S. military forces commit war crimes?? YES. Whats the difference? Blackwater operatives are handsomely paid for risking life and limb in service of their country, these are NOT criminals or thugs, these are for the most part, former U.S. special forces members, who after years of breaking and abusing their bodies to protect YOUR freedoms decided to cash in on their unique skill sets. Is this wrong as many of you say? YES, its horribly wrong that a member of our military gets paid so poorly when our government is willing to hand out billions and billions of dollars in contracts to these security firms. What is the answer to this? pay the military men/women who are in harms way a fair wage and there will be no need for blackwater or any firm to be employed by the US government. And to all of you people crying about the disarming of citizens after katrina, please keep in mind that there were idiots SHOOTING at the rescue helicopters, obviously not everyone but the only way to make sure that it didnt continue, other than firing back at the perps(who were often in a crowd of innocent people) was to disarm everyone. so pls stfu
Posted by:USMC 0331January 30, 2008 7:38:36 AMRespond ^
The U.S. and it's wasp founders have 400 years of bad carma about to rain down on us all,what happens to Blackwater will just be a drop in the bucket ! Duck and cover 2012 is not that far off. Can anybody say AMEN !
Posted by:Randolph WolfeJanuary 30, 2008 7:45:41 AMRespond ^
If you are, in fact, a 0331, which I doubt, you would very clearly understand that we cannot have a democracy when the Rule of Law is subject to whether or not the President, DoD, HLS, FBI, NSA, CIA, or anyone can decide that the Rule of Law should not apply in this case or that. Marines support the United states of America and the Constitution & Bill of Rights which created the parametes for Government behavior. You may disregard this, but to your own peril and that of your children. As Americans we are all subject to the Rule of Law within the parameters of the Constitution & Bill of Rights. Dissagree all you want about what we do and how we do it in America, but do it within the rule of Law. That goes for you and for the President of the United States. That is what Marines defend. Not some macho idealogy that glorifies Rambo.
Posted by:Marshall AdameJanuary 30, 2008 7:51:16 AMRespond ^
Blackwater, your approach is wrong. Appoint this guy as your corporate ombudsman - it will be a great step in restoring your reputation.
Posted by:ChasJanuary 30, 2008 7:53:22 AMRespond ^
Cassandra Roess needs to wake and pay attention. Blackwater is aptly named and needs to be drained into the sewer.
Posted by:RUCyriousJanuary 30, 2008 9:40:00 AMRespond ^
Great article! Wish we had more like this in the major media - instead of salivating about Britney Spears
Posted by:Trevor FaulkJanuary 30, 2008 10:27:20 AMRespond ^
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens. I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson For hire is in no way the same in meaning as for others. It is the very opposite of that, for self. To be paid more to do a duty that others are willing to do for less in the name of freedom is slavery to currency. Honor as well as freedom is being eroded due to cold shoulders and rubber soled boots. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness not Luxury, Bonded, and in search of Fortune. Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge - and more. To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do - for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder. JFK
Posted by:RW BlueJanuary 30, 2008 10:52:05 AMRespond ^
USMC 0331, I don't blame the former soldiers, marines and special forces folks who join Blackwater to make big bucks, I blame our government for even allowing Blackwater to exist and worse yet to THRIVE by hiring them. There should be NO need for Blackwater in any way, shape or form; that is what the Reserves and National Guard are for, but where are they? Illegally deployed to I R A Q. This is the reason Blackwater was sent to New Orleans after Katrina! Outrageous!! can you not see the WRONG in this? In the mid 70's I could not believe it when I read about South African mercs being hired to quell uprisings and rebellious coups in Angola and other African countries. I thought, "What in the devil is the world coming to when you can hire your own army, you can LEGALLY hire someone to KILL for you?!" Can't you see that this is just WRONG, USMC 0331? Not only that, but what is to stop Blackwater from taking over a city or even a state if they so desire? They have all the guns, ammo and equipment that the armed forces have, and then some. If you can't see a problem with Blackwater, especially after their performance in Iraq, you ARE part of the problem, USMC 0331.
Posted by:nikolaiJanuary 30, 2008 11:20:25 AMRespond ^
Like Ms Tyrrell said "He does not regret for one moment his desire to defend the brave people who risk their lives everyday working for Blackwater." Note WHO they are working for. Not America. Not Americans. Blackwater. Ergo - who will call the shots? Not America. Not Americans.
Posted by:HipShotJanuary 30, 2008 11:50:14 AMRespond ^
USMC 0031 compares US military with Blackwater personnel and goes after two points. First, both groups commit "war crimes". That's inaccurate. Some members of the US military have committed war crimes. (Ignore the argument that attributes guilt to any and all soldiers who willingly participate in an illegal war - the Germans are still struggling with this one.) And some Blackwater employees have behaved immorally, killing and maiming innocent people and abusing the priviliges that their bimbo customer has provided them with. But are these war crimes? They aren't combatants in the legal sense. This isn't a war in the legal sense. These guys are legally substantially less than grunts. They're really more like orcs. I'm not a fan of fantasy but where else is there an appropriate metaphor for the shadowy existences that work for Blackwater et al? They don't commit war crimes. They commit heinous acts, savage, primitive killings in a lawless, ruined land. Secondly USMC 0331 asserts that the criminals at Blackwater are better paid for their crimes than the criminals in the US military because they've got better skill sets. Here I get skeptical again. Are Blackwater orcs really better paid than Army grunts? The grunts get lousy take home pay but they get the federal health plan, subsidized housing and education back at home, a good retirement package if they hang in there for 20 years, the respect of a large employer network. The orcs get a big pay check while they're orc-ing but what about when they get back home? What kind of health insurance does Blackwater provide, what are the deductibles like, does it include dental. Ok, those Blackwater employees who were former US military could use the VA system I assume. But by joining Blackwater haven't they lost the chance of qualifying for the juicy retirement benefits? Furthermore would UPS want to hire them.
Posted by:o'scrodJanuary 30, 2008 12:54:09 PMRespond ^
One nation under god - which god? Chtulluh? If one of those filthy mercenary companies ever runs an operation on european earth, then i`d declare total, unlimited war against them. No geneva convention, just a bullet in the neck if they`re caught - and lucky. [deleted] THE USA!
Posted by:dwe/europeJanuary 30, 2008 1:16:30 PMRespond ^
Mr. Adame is a true patriot having served as a MARINE, then running for public office to fight against all enemies foriegn and DOMESTIC! Blackwater is an ENEMY of the STATE period! They are a Clear and Present Danger to our National Security. They should immediately be disarmed & monitered just as any other militant group would be. I served my country during the Gulf War, and I feel bad for all those guys over there putting up with crap from these MERCENARIES. Bush & Cheney should be IMPEACHED!
Posted by:True PatriotJanuary 30, 2008 2:44:33 PMRespond ^
We didn't learn after Dick Nixon's Gestapo chiefs Erlichman and Haldeman were ousted. So now we have BushChaney's Blackwater stormtroops. Paid for by our tax dollars at salaries incredibly higher than our legitimate volunteer armed servicemen and servicewomen.
Posted by:DMalickJanuary 30, 2008 2:53:52 PMRespond ^
Ralphie, is that really your name? What a joke . . .
Posted by:BlackwaterJanuary 30, 2008 3:53:40 PMRespond ^
Josh, you lack intelligence.
Posted by:BlackwaterJanuary 30, 2008 3:59:11 PMRespond ^
Cassandra, Blackwater is not needed. You don't get it. Go get your paycheck from Blackwater now . . .
Posted by:BlackwaterJanuary 30, 2008 4:05:31 PMRespond ^
USMC 0331, you are what is wrong with this country.
Posted by:BlackwaterJanuary 30, 2008 4:08:32 PMRespond ^
Drive on, Marshall. Keep telling the truth about these modern day Hessians, and the things they do. They and everyone like them should be shut down. Those among them who kill in cold blood should be prosecuted as the criminals they have proven to be. They have contributed nothing to our nation except for a massive blood debt we owe to the Iraqi citizenry.
Posted by:otiswaynehaleJanuary 30, 2008 4:52:02 PMRespond ^
The fact that an organization like Blackwater exists, and is growing and thriving in this country should chill every American to the bone. And it gets worse. Our own government has hired them to fight its illegal war using tactics that are inhuman and despicable. What will happen when these people, trained as they are, return from Iraq and wherever else they are being used? Can they be assimilated back into normal society? Will Blackwater continue expanding its army in the hopes of future wars? Who is funding this operation, and why does it exist?
Posted by:Katie RJanuary 30, 2008 5:56:31 PMRespond ^
Blackwater represents what george orwell told us in his book `1984', the sad fact that we are edging ever so close to Big Brother and fascism. our soldiers are bound to a honor code and can be subjected to court martials and imprisonment if they do not follow the rules of war. Blackwater is not bound by any type of these. As long as `smirky' bush and `darth vader' cheney are in office they will see to it that blackwater is immune from prosection and jail.
Posted by:robert JJanuary 30, 2008 6:46:17 PMRespond ^
As posted on the re-post at www.buzzflash.com.. This is the person who coined the term "Freedom Fries" and is proud have been part of the USUK GW1. So perhaps he was inspired by the USUK missile that went thro the vent at Amriya bomb shelter frying of hundreds of Iraqi women and children, where Fisk reported wading through human fat floating on the leaked water.. I'll ask him. Writing to the families of dead Usukers is not enough .. sorry. Too late for you..
Posted by:VeriteJanuary 30, 2008 7:34:02 PMRespond ^
"They should immediately be disarmed & monitered just as any other militant group would be." Right on. Why are they not being dealt with like the Montana Freemen were in 1996? BW is a 1000% more dangerous than those yahoos were.
Posted by:nonmercJanuary 30, 2008 7:51:35 PMRespond ^
Thanks for the article covering Marshall Adame congressional bid. First let me say that as a former solider, I have seen and worked with the special operations community extensively. These are the very people that make up Blackwater's ranks. In my military dealings with these fine patriots, I found them to be loyal, upstanding and absolute heroes. But I want to emphasize the word "Military" dealings. They were military at the time, and not a Para-military/civilian organization. There is no place in a military controlled battlespace for these organizations, NONE! They detract from the mission, they interfere with military operations and they do not represent the military or the US Government at all. They are just what Marshall Adame said they are, guns for hire. You can interpret that any way you wish. Bill Mathews, a former military officer, a man that has devoted his life to the defending our freedoms, has lowered himself by selling his services to the highest bidder. The employees of Blackwater should not be angry with Marshall Adame, they should be admonishing Bill Mathews for embarrassing their company in public. Calling on employees to join him in "running this goof out of Dodge". What kind of corporate leader does and says these kind of to their employees? Blackwater has many overseas contracts and there is no danger of the company going under over the loss of the one US Military contract. Bill Mathews personal attacks on Marshall Adame, and his efforts to rally his employees to harass the Adame family by using scare tactics on his employees is baseless. Marshall Adame represents real Americans. He has raised his family on a military salary, two sons served this country, one wounded in Iraq, knows the impact of the Republican policies here in the United States and the world. His esteemed opponent has served seven terms, running virtually unopposed. What has he really done for the people in the 3D District in the seven terms? "Freedom Fries"? It's time for the people of the 3D District to thank Bill and Walter for their service, and send them on their way......
Posted by:Tony ParksJanuary 30, 2008 8:54:16 PMRespond ^
politics is about elections. That is what makes winners in politics. For that something is needed. It is called ... strenght in numbers. The numbers speak forthemselves. When the winner is pronounced, we shall se... who can press further.
Posted by:Dr.QJanuary 31, 2008 3:52:17 AMRespond ^
Hmm an interesting point but I'm not sure if I agree with you. Jared Lorz
Posted by:Jared LorzJanuary 31, 2008 4:05:54 AMRespond ^
Good to see that the Blackwater mercenary for hire corporation that the BushCo administration has been so gratuitously overusing at a staggering economic cost is finally being looked at harshly by our potential Presidential candidates ... that we even *have* a private militia in our country which is ready and willing to be deployed internally at the first sign of a potential disaster scenario is a sign of a fascist shift in our government that has for too long been ignored ...
Posted by:AvangionQJanuary 31, 2008 4:25:14 AMRespond ^
I fear that these "security firms" are just what Adame claims they are, mercenaries with no obligation to the Geneva conventions or any treaty that our government has ratified. Is this the image or policy we wish to present to the world?
Posted by:Terry JansJanuary 31, 2008 5:08:56 AMRespond ^
I agree that private mercenary companies are in need of being put out of business,it is an affront to our military and indicates a way of abusing foreign policy outside government jurisdiction. It indicates that guns for hire is lucrative business that should be normalized for the sake of international corporations financial interests and of some of our politicians in their employ. It is like Pompey the Great and Julius Ceasar and Sulla who privatized ancient Rome's military to gain control and power of its Republic. We should be very concerned as a nation.
Posted by:Daniel MangerJanuary 31, 2008 5:27:22 AMRespond ^
Ralphie, great idea. Then, when we exact the "Final Solution" to the "Blackwater Question" we can make you fuhrer. The LAST thing we need is a lynch mobbing. Leave those tactics to the right wing death squads and hate groups.
Posted by:bizonaJanuary 31, 2008 6:15:55 AMRespond ^
Hi, I worked with Marshall Adame in Baghdad in 2005. He is a gentleman of highest integrity. While I had no such negative experience with Blackwater as Marshall apparently did, if Mr Adame says something happened, it surely did. My concern with private security details was a lack of accountability. For example, I had a dinner buddy who worked with a 'P.S.D.' and he seemed agitated. I asked him what was wrong. Apparently someone on his detail had, during a mission, urinated into a water or soft-drink bottle in front of an Iraqi child and handed the urine-filled bottle to that child saying something to the effect of, "Here's your lemonade you sand-n*gger..." My friend reported the incident and was rebuked for doing so by the area head. Apparently, both the urinator and the supervisor were eventually fired. I believe my friend worked for Blackwater but I can not remember. There were also peristent rumors of shootings, P.S.D.s bragging about how Iraqis' heads exploded like pumpkins from the impact of their gunfire. While I was skeptical of such stories, what they did point up to me was that these nasty people would only get fired and sent back to the U.S. Had an Army corporal or specialist urinated in a bottle and given that bottle to a kid with a racially derogatory comment, he would have been held accountable and end up in Leavenworth. The P.S.D.s, however, were simply sent home. I do not believe the P.S.D.s were mercenaries since they were not used for combat operations. On the other hand, the one fire-fight I heard in the distance when I was in the Green Zone turned out to be -- allegedly -- the Blackwater 'mosquito' security helicopter firing into a building just over the Tigris. While a sniper likely fired first, the amount of gunfire from the mosquito -- if in fact it was the Blackwater helicopter -- intuitively seemed to cross an invisible line between defensive and offensive operations. My personal experience with Blackwater was uniformly good; the people who provided security for me were professional. Blackwater did lose a number of people in Iraq. Yet stories from very credible sources, like Mr Adame, abound.
Posted by:Marshall's friend in IraqJanuary 31, 2008 7:27:35 AMRespond ^
True Patriot: Agreed with everything !! Bush and Cheney should be impeached.
Posted by:TrishJanuary 31, 2008 9:15:05 AMRespond ^
100% correct sir,our forefathers are rolling in their graves over these merceneries being used by our country,these security companies are as un american as it gets,when i read the story on how our marines were held at gunpoint by these scumbags i was shocked,keep up the good work sir,you are a great american.
Posted by:frankJanuary 31, 2008 9:21:21 AMRespond ^
This is the direct byproduct of Rummys lean mean machine. reduce the army ranks and supliment with mercenary soldiers. Gov Army "NO PROFIT", Mercenary Army "HUGE PROFIT".
Posted by:Daniel BJanuary 31, 2008 9:46:05 AMRespond ^
Supporting Republicans...? Not surprised...! I have Blackwater as a privileged contracting company which has as one of its fundamental role's to funnel some of the ill gotten money back into the Republican Party's candidates. Blackwater's CEO is known for his support and large donations.
Posted by:JorgeJanuary 31, 2008 11:28:07 AMRespond ^
pedophiles? lololol any pedophile during Hitles reign was incarcerated in his famous camps. Give me a break. The catholic church has truly pedophiles and I don't hear you crucfying them......
Posted by:dora riceJanuary 31, 2008 12:21:26 PMRespond ^
seems to me America should be more afraid of their vicious crimes against mother and babies, and the crime rate in general.lolol....
Posted by:dora riceJanuary 31, 2008 12:23:18 PMRespond ^
why don't you go 2 nights with Blackwater to the Parkistan border , just 2 nights. I don't think you will see a gun wielding Blackwater employee wilding his gun against pregnant women like this marine did in Carolina. You will find them in the mountains looking for the leaders of terrorism. You all should be ashamed to let jaelousy blind you, the men deserve more than they ever get paid.
Posted by:dora_riceJanuary 31, 2008 12:28:01 PMRespond ^
so an airmarshal is also a gun for hire, same thing. They work for the state department have to have secret clearance like the Blackwater employees. Where is the gun for hire. But what really bothers you if we can be honest, that a Blackwater man will not endure heat, ice cold nights, bunkbeds in a shack, dangerous missions by night on Bagdad roofs and at the Parkistan border for pennies. Tough luck.
Posted by:dora-riceJanuary 31, 2008 12:36:18 PMRespond ^
I don't have to read a history book. I was well aware of the French legion in Africa and Marocco, Algier. The french legion had mercenaries, because these were people that came out of jail, committed crimes and fled and signed up to enter the legion, You cannot call state department employees with no crimianl record, a secret clearance, past law enforcement experience Mercenaries. Blackwater has high risk security personel, and only jaelous people who cringe with envy at their payckeck will smear them. Why don't you install the draft? Let every able body men women enlist for 2 years , including you. I see you then at 10 degree fahrenheit at the Parkistani border. Cu then.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 12:45:41 PMRespond ^
yeah turn the other cheek. Well done...
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 12:47:25 PMRespond ^
If Mr. Adame would fight as much for the draft , so we have sufficient manpower in the services, then as much as he fights against Blackwater, we would have something concrete. As long as you are not willing to enlist , as long as we don't have a draft and hole every man and woman responsible to serve this country, as long we will have willing brave men who will go and fight terrorism and get the unthankful job done to keep this country safe.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 12:51:30 PMRespond ^
we had rape and the murder of a whole Iraqi family done by a service man. Where is the control. There are bad apples in every bunch. Blackwaters men are there because they want to be. Not because they have enlisted for 6 years and can't get out when the going gets tough. Blackwater men take their living and their job seriously and get fired on the spot when stepping out of line. We all know, a good paycheck is motivation for doing a good job. But we remember when Vietnam Veterans were insulted. Any man who signs up to fight terrorism should be supported. And bickering who gets more or less has no place in fighting terrorism. Unless we reinstate the draft. And every man , woman will to their duty to defend this country. Any one who warns of Blackwater men running the streets in the US is laughable, paranoid and a sign of our times , by watching to many movies and playing to many games on a play station. LOLOL
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 12:59:12 PMRespond ^
what crap are those guys putting up with. You mean when Blackwater men are on the roofs protecting the convoy of the US army driving by, and making sure that no bomb is buried at least not in the part of town they are guarding, give me a break. Only paranoids who never saw war have your kind of fantasies.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 1:05:15 PMRespond ^
I call your story hear say of the worst kind. I would go farther. I say its a story written to smear honeable men. When you want to make a point , you deliver it with honest somber back up, not with a dirty smear campaign.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessJanuary 31, 2008 1:12:56 PMRespond ^
yeah those paychecks just get your jealous a....hole....but if they would call you to do the job, you would chit in your pants.
Posted by:dora_riceJanuary 31, 2008 1:14:57 PMRespond ^
I am not sure, what the difference is, between volunteering in the service and kill for pennies,for the GI Bill, for housing and healthcare, or volunteering in a privat army and killing for dollars? What is the difference? Draft you citizens so evey man , woman takes part in defending their country, otherwise you have men who kill for a job. Take your pick and quit being hypocritical. Actually I can only see why volunteer soldiers are more honored , because they kill for pennies from the taxpayer. If Blackwater guys would go and flush Terrorists out for pennies, no one would say a word. But since they want a honest wage for an honest day of work, they are mercenaries.
Posted by:dora_riceJanuary 31, 2008 1:22:55 PMRespond ^
Once more Ms Roess is close to making at least one good point: get everybody to serve! If we're serious about being patriots and responsible citizens, and if the United States really is worth the greatest sacrifice then we all have a responsibility to defend the country. All of us, not just those who "volunteer", and not just the selfless and well-paid mercenaries who "win" no-bid government contracts. It isn't a draft. It's a mandatory year of civil service for all 19-year-olds. With it there would never have been a Blackwater or a Gulf War II. With it the United States would be a solid democracy.
Posted by:o'scrodJanuary 31, 2008 1:39:42 PMRespond ^
Remember folks, Blackwater was sent into New Orleans right after Katrina and they had an awful reputation as soon as they got there with their heavy handedness...In Iraq they just kill with impunity...How soon will it be until we have a Blackwater guard on every corner of our neighborhood here domestically where they will use this impunity at will?
Posted by:HebJanuary 31, 2008 1:48:29 PMRespond ^
Screw Blackwater! Get them out of Iraq shut 'em down...if not, we're going to face the consequences here on our own streets with Blackwater idiots thinking they own our neighborhoods...
Posted by:HebJanuary 31, 2008 1:50:42 PMRespond ^
The reason for blackwater going to Iraq was to eliminate our government from crimes against Humanity. Thus George, gives himself clean hands and immunity to a company who was ruthless and ultimately rich from military contracts. What a slap on the face to our Patriotic Soldiers.
Posted by:jr6401January 31, 2008 8:05:15 PMRespond ^
How could anyone think that a for-profit corporation will operate from "patriotic" motives? You would only think this, if you define patriotic as "profitable." In short, this private army is available to the highest bidder, or even to two sides of a conflict at once, if they can manage to control the available information well enough. Not only are their motivations buyable, but information about what they are up to with our tax dollars is unavailable, because it's a "trade secret" who their contracting entities are, and what the contracts are for. Finally, the idea that this way of making war is better because it's cheaper/more efficient is ridiculous! Security-by-Blackwater is MUCH more expensive than doing it the older, proper way, and the obscene profits go to Mr. Erik Prince's conspicuous consumption, rather than to reinvestment in the mission. There is NO EXCUSE for employing mercenaries in America today. The only beneficiary of the practice is the Owning Class, who have gotten away with far too much already.
Posted by:Dan MortensonJanuary 31, 2008 10:09:53 PMRespond ^
since our military is running thin, and we can't meet the enlistment goals, why don't you enlist and all other 19-21 year olds, then we won't need Security firms.
Posted by:dora_riceFebruary 1, 2008 12:14:15 AMRespond ^
would be a good idea , having blackwater men guarding some of these dope dealing corners, since our police won't do it, in fact our police officers get questioned , when they are trying to clean up the dope dealers to efficient.....
Posted by:Cassandra RoessFebruary 1, 2008 12:21:28 AMRespond ^
6 years of war, and no end in sight and no victory in sight. Why can't the army get it done? We should ask ourselfes that, instead of bickering about privat armies, there would be no need for privat armies, if the military could get the job done, McCaine claims we might stay 100 years? is that cheaper than an efficeint privat contracts.....no one from the state departmen that travels to Iraq wants to be protected by the military, I wonder why, or am I not wondering why. You can't fight insurgents or the middle east underground with conventional weapons, in fact you never could in history, so either get out, or fight to win . So far after 7 years I see no success... the surge only put a bandaid on the problem.
Posted by:Cassandra RoessFebruary 1, 2008 12:29:15 AMRespond ^
OK I don't exactly get all of what Rice and Roess are trying to say. Might even be my fault. I guess one of their points is that we're jealous. We who want to put Blackwater out of the US government contracting business want to do so because we are jealous of the big bucks that Blackwater's employees are reportedly making. I don't know how much Blackwater employees in for instance Iraq make. Maybe if somebody out there knows they could report. I have heard that they are making much more in take home pay than the average US soldier. Let's assume that that's true. Jealousy based on an income comparison doesn't motivate my criticism of Blackwater. I'll admit that the way those guys are hung really gets my goat, but that doesn't motivate my criticism either. Blackwater gets contracts from the US government because they provide a service of equal value for less money than the US government would spend if it paid its own employees to provide the service. They don't get the contracts because they have better skill sets than US gov't employees. DoD logic doesn't allow that. Blackwater doesn't get the contracts because they provide lower quality service at a lower price. That may be the case but that won't get you a contract when lives are at stake. They don't get the contracts because they are more patriotic. Chaney, Rummy and Co. have in theory only one argument to justify the outsourcing of the DoD: same quality for a lower price. Now we've had more than 4 years of Blackwater billing the US taxpayer big-time. Most Americans have been unusually patient and understanding but enough is enough. Are we getting same-quality service at a lower price? Until someone reports then hold all the contracts.
Posted by:o'scrodFebruary 1, 2008 6:03:25 AMRespond ^
I thank Mr. Adame for having the internal fortitude to take on Blackwater, I think it may be political and possibly personal suicide. We have been told that the corporate army is above the law. I find this unacceptable. UCMJ 802.2Persons Subject to this Chapter {10} In time of War persons serving with or Accompanying an Armed Force in the field; I believe this puts them under control of the field commander. Our constitution states that, only congress can pass laws & spend the money. Well if congress won't do their job and we don't have an army to enforce the laws, you think we're beat, well think again.We have the power of the purse. No you cannot refuse to pay taxes, but, you can stop using those credit cards! Reduce your spending to the very minimum. Another point you need to be aware of is that Blackwater is only one of several corporate armies. It is time for all of us to Wake Up, support people like Mr. Adame, who are willing to stand up to corporate America. If we reduce the corporate profits, we may be able to get our government back. I wish you and your family the best of luck Mr.Adame, please keep up the good fight!
Posted by:Ranselar VanDerpoelFebruary 1, 2008 7:41:51 AMRespond ^
Go Marshall Adame! ViVa!Somebody with the courage to say what is right in spite of potentially alienating a large corporation in his district- deserves some respect. Too bad we don't have more folks like Adame and fewer corporate whores running for office. On the other hand, Blackwater is a group I'd be nervous about pissing off. I'll be praying for him. I'd be afraid to annoy the largest and best paid corporate mercenary organization on the planet. This guy has great courage but I'm guessing there will be a smear campaign if not worse to stop him from succeeding.
Posted by:KatieFebruary 1, 2008 8:30:37 AMRespond ^
I want to ask all the presidential hopefuls when they will cease giving taxpayer money to Blackwater. And I will send some money to Adame if you give me his website info.
Posted by:Linda HoltFebruary 1, 2008 10:57:07 AMRespond ^
Here it is: http://MarshallAdame4congress2008.com OR you can simply google MARSHALL ADAME
Posted by:John SimensenFebruary 1, 2008 11:39:51 AMRespond ^
Was it Blackwater who patrolled the streets of New Orleans suburbs, abusing citizens second amendment rights and confiscating citizen's firearms? We all have an unalienable right to defend our property. And government, in America, was created to protect those unalienable rights not distort the principle through some fuzzy "common good" ideal and employ a tyranny against the People. Here the 24th Section of the Washington State Constitution speaks to ideas like Blackwater. SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men. Any person running for office respecting individual rights vs. collectivist ideas, respects the oath to uphold and defend the Constitution should be considered. Always look for actions not just words to make a judgment. I am voting for Ron Paul and I wish Mr. Adame success in his run for office.
Posted by:Michael PannoneFebruary 1, 2008 12:03:50 PMRespond ^
No, you don't disarm everyone, idiot. Only those who are behaving inappropriately. You leave the responsible gun owners alone, GET IT, [deleted]WIPE?
Posted by:mannyFebruary 4, 2008 8:39:24 AMRespond ^
Blackwater is kinda like Bush. Whatever they do is legal because they did it. It's the Mukasey theory of law(thanks, Schumer). So I feel really sorry for Mr. Adame, because if he ended up in a ditch somewhere with a slug in his head and a Blackwater logo carved in his chest, well, he must have been a terrorist. Aren't police states fun???
Posted by:davidFebruary 4, 2008 2:22:12 PMRespond ^
Well, I am scheduled to speak in Barco, right in the Blackwater backyard on the 7th of Feb. It wont be the last time I speak there. I made an honest comment to a question asked of me during a live blog. They attacked me after that. They picked this fight. So be it.
Posted by:Marshall AdameFebruary 5, 2008 4:38:52 PMRespond ^
When do we get our chance for a turkey shoot on these backwater hillbillies?
Posted by:turkeyshooterFebruary 9, 2008 6:45:16 PMRespond ^
Wow, Are you all ignorant? Do you have any idea what your saying? THIS IS WAR! Iraq law? I am sorry but as a soldier I obied commands not "Laws" If we are invading a country there are no "Laws" Think I am going to stop and take fire just because I cant shoot at a damn Mosk? I'll throw a damn grenade in there. Or you think I am going to hold fire because there is two people standing in the way? No I am not My life is worth more than any ones life and to you your life is worth more than any one's life. You ignorant bastards this is not a game there are no rules. And till you understand that the longer this war goes on. Black water is defending this country the way defending is done. Wining any way passable if it was up to me I would evacuate every innocent person and M.O.A.B. the place to hell. U.S. Army = Under geared, under payed, and under staffed. They are constantly shafted by humans rights groups and [deleted]. What about the rights of the damn solders you tards. BlackWater U.S.A = No Laws, Higher Wages, Kill with out consequence. What would you pick?
Posted by:PhillFebruary 10, 2008 11:26:02 PMRespond ^
Requirement to join Blackwater USA. You must be a U.S. Citizen.
Posted by:aFebruary 10, 2008 11:34:14 PMRespond ^
Ask yourself who these mercenaries fight for - it isn't the United States. Why wouldn't we just conscript soldiers into the military and pay them less - many times less, if we needed more soldiers for the United States? The reason we don't is that consripts would be under the authority of the Military. They'd fight for and protect the government. But Blackwater is under the authority of the Executive Branch - they fight for the Executive - and THAT should put fear into your hearts. This is a "pretorian guard" - overpaid, over-armed, over-utilized Corporate, for-profit business. No wonder congress fears the Preznit. And if the Executive branch can't hire them, they get hired by multinational corporations. Don't worry though, the administration (or will it be the multi's?) will soon be using them, as "agents provocatuers" to stir up another war, to protect the business of the executive and military industrial complex, for the 1000 year war that keeps the stock market safe and intereste rates high on the trillion dollars it costs every five years. It's the new world order, and it's like the drug war. Once you start it, you can't quit, or our entire way of life for the power elite would come crashing down, taking all of us with them.
Posted by:PubliusFebruary 14, 2008 1:03:15 AMRespond ^
Phill, You are one sick puppy.... We are a nation of laws. That is the only thing that has maintained this democracy. From your wrting, I am sure you have never been in combat. You have "Only the strong survive" mentality. Besides being primitive, barbaric and un-American... it has never won a war. You sound like some kind of angry, sick person. Please seek professional help before you hurt someone , or yourself. YOU are the one who "Doesn't get it".
Posted by:Marshall AdameFebruary 14, 2008 3:48:43 AMRespond ^
The United states has a military. A legitimate military. Blackwater and triple canopy and all the mercenary groups are not legitimate and should be outlawed. If I see Blackwater in my neighborhood I will consider it an invasion.
Posted by:BQFebruary 17, 2008 1:55:04 AMRespond ^
3 words: Hessians, fascists, mercenaries. I think the Army should be ordered back to the United States. ALL of it. One point of note: The beloved 'brain bucket', the kevlar helmet. Truth in advertising, there, a chunk of plastic(oil) shaped just like the nazi helmet, oh, and let's look at that uniform, while we're at it. Changed color, from army green to grey. All our forces combined, all dressed the same, black no-see-em sunglasses, oh, and let's talk haircuts while we're at it. It's not just blackwater that's the problem, here, it's the whole damn Lebensborn army, there. And, finally, rub a little salt in the wound, didn't the Iraqi people vote our military OUT? Yet, they remain. Ergo, democracyer(R) it's not. Curious circumstance, our Congress being strong-armed for money to finance...what, exactly? Chasing Hitler's ghost across the desert sands at 5k/minute? Go through, fire the institutional memory, start fresh with ignorant kids that don't have that memory, don't remember Vietnam or probably ever even really read about it other than maybe a fast pass in an equally questionable school, what ELSE came back 'across the pond' with all that medical data, rocket scientists, and so forth? What, indeed. Hitler had this thing about empires, too. IN a nutshell, we been 'jacked. Private prisons, private armies, no accountability, sunshine 'morgige tag' stories, oh, and don't forget Das Rumsfeldt undt das govurnment propaganda. Ja, undt ze choos, ja, mit ze choos...what a sick, psychotic, war profiteering goat-blow of a clusterblank. They haven't printed the dollar or frankly cast the bullet that'd put me back in uniform. I again 'vote' to see the military recalled to our shores, and gone through with third-party oversight with an eye to vastly improving public accountability, and reinforcing Congress' lawful authority over the whole 9 yards. They've been trying to steal 'second base' there for a while, and in 9/11 saw their opportunity. Speaking OF 9/11, it's been said more than once and by more than one person that it was our very own Reichstag fire. If you read about that, it was a catastrophe that was believed ordered by Hitler himself to rally the german people. Conyers has my full permission, for what it's worth, to take these people to the house floor and hold them to public account. I'm not holding my breath for that blessed event, but when you sum it all up, roll the whole calculus together, this was a war of choice initiated by Prescott Bush's grandson, Prescott, if you recall, was essentially Hitler's american banker. Fascism is defined when industry and government 'hook up' and set up common living arrangements. Fiscal incest, whole 9 yards, there's little signs, here and there if you pay attention, we didn't spend all that time in school and in the service to just sit and say nothing...truth comes out eventually, cat's gotta .... sometime. http://www.impeachbush.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_hitler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower http://www.usa-presidents.info/speeches/eisenhower-farewell.html "Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society." The US is one of the 4 countries that joined together to end the Third Reich. Germany was one of the three axis powers, also including Italy, and Japan. One of the things that existed in those times was called the 'waffen SS'. One thing I noticed in being around the military, as well as when I was in it, was people with no hair. Surprise, surprise. But, there's a difference between a crew cut, and a shaven head. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead They just had an interview with a general, and he had the chrome dome. My question is, 'how many more'? Army regulations, loathsome though they may be, were actually written for a reason. To prevent our military from becoming a clown circus, they should be referred to from time to time, if for no other purpose than for some entertainment reading. "I vuss chust followink ordters" vass deemedt nodt to be ze adekvate ekschuse, ja? Undt zet vuss edt Nuremberg. Ok, fake nazi accent OFF, point is, you take something that's one color, and strike it against something that's the other color, you're going to trade some paint, there. Our military's been living there for 50 or so years, how much in the way of attitudes has traded back and forth? Nazi jackboot shock troops in little plastic hitler hats kicking people's doors in and beating people up and and and, and now they're in the police departments across the country. Questions, yes, many questions...regulations may permit ink and shaven heads, but I question it. 9.25 trillion in US reichsmarks in debt, and counting...IG BushCo on the march...Standard Oil's evil tentacular stepchildren...they should put a big giant unobtainium american chicken track in the front yard outside the Penta$cam, as a REAL Vietnam memorial, one of those 'lest we forget' teachy-sculpture thing-jobbers...with a solar panel on it to power the living history audio presentation. It's not like they can't afford it, right? Just thug on Congress a little more, they're all just a bunch of weak pussies, they'll sign anything you want em to. I hope Congress votes the Army home. Corruption doesn't even begin to cover it. Little plastic hitler hats, marching off to victoree...achTUNG, baby. Make Lt. Ahren Watada the nashlskirtyvizor, and give him the Golden Wheelbarrow(first award). Biggest balls in the ENtire United States Army, from where I stand. Now, hold up your right hand, and repeat after me: I, state your name(no, YOUR name), do solemnly swear,... http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm I'd rather eat cat food in a democracy than caviar in a dictatorship. Conyers can go ahead and impeach Dick Tater and King George just anytime. I'll even buy him a new pen to do it with. http://www.impeachbush.tv/impeach/articles.html http://www.impea