Hydrogen's Dirty Secret
President Bush promises that fuel-cell cars will be free of pollution. But if he has his way, the cars of tomorrow will run on hydrogen made from fossil fuels.
When President Bush unveiled his plans for a hydrogen-powered car in his State of the Union address in January, he proposed $1.2 billion in spending to develop a revolutionary automobile that will be "pollution-free." The new vehicle, he declared, will rely on "a simple chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen" to power a car "producing only water, not exhaust fumes." Within 20 years, the president vowed, fuel-cell cars will "make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of oil."
By launching an ambitious program to develop what he calls the "Freedom Car," Bush seemed determined to realize the kind of future that hydrogen-car supporters have envisioned for years. Using existing technology, hydrogen can be easily and cleanly extracted from water. Electricity generated by solar panels and wind turbines is used to split the water's hydrogen atoms from its oxygen atoms. The hydrogen is then recombined with oxygen in fuel cells, where it releases electrons that drive an electric motor in a car. What Bush didn't reveal in his nationwide address, however, is that his administration has been working quietly to ensure that the system used to produce hydrogen will be as fossil fuel-dependent -- and potentially as dirty -- as the one that fuels today's SUVs. According to the administration's National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap, drafted last year in concert with the energy industry, up to 90 percent of all hydrogen will be refined from oil, natural gas, and other fossil fuels -- in a process using energy generated by burning oil, coal, and natural gas. The remaining 10 percent will be cracked from water using nuclear energy.
Such a system, experts say, would effectively eliminate most of the benefits offered by hydrogen. Although the fuel-cell cars themselves may emit nothing but water vapor, the process of producing the fuel cells from hydrocarbons will continue America's dependence on fossil fuels and leave behind carbon dioxide, the primary cause of global warming.
Mike Nicklas, chair of the American Solar Energy Society, was one of 224 energy experts invited by the Department of Energy to develop the government's Roadmap last spring. The sessions, environmentalists quickly discovered, were dominated by representatives from the oil, coal, and nuclear industries. "All the emphasis was on how the process would benefit traditional energy industries," recalls Nicklas, who sat on a committee chaired by an executive from ChevronTexaco. "The whole meeting had been staged to get a particular result, which was a plan to extract hydrogen from fossil fuels and not from renewables." The plan does not call for a single ounce of hydrogen to come from power generated by the sun or the wind, concluding that such technologies "need further development for hydrogen production to be more cost competitive."
But instead of investing in developing those sources, the budget that Bush submitted to Congress pays scant attention to renewable methods of producing hydrogen. More than half of all hydrogen funding is earmarked for automakers and the energy industry. Under the president's plan, more than $22 million of hydrogen research for 2004 will be devoted to coal, nuclear power, and natural gas, compared with $17 million for renewable sources. Overall funding for renewable research and energy conservation, meanwhile, will be slashed by more than $86 million. "Cutting R&D for renewable sources and replacing them with fossil and nuclear doesn't make for a sustainable approach," says Jason Mark, director of the clean vehicles program for the Union of Concerned Scientists.
The oil and chemical industries already produce 9 million tons of hydrogen each year, most of it from natural gas, and transport it through hundreds of miles of pipelines to fuel the space shuttle and to remove sulfur from petroleum refineries. The administration's plan lays the groundwork to expand that infrastructure -- guaranteeing that oil and gas companies will profit from any transition to hydrogen. Lauren Segal, general manager of hydrogen development for BP, puts it succinctly: "We view hydrogen as a way to really grow our natural-gas business."
To protect its fuel franchise, the energy industry has moved swiftly in recent years to shape government policy toward hydrogen. In 1999, oil companies and automakers began attending the meetings of an obscure group called the National Hydrogen Association. Founded in 1989 by scientists from government labs and universities, the association was a haven for many of the small companies -- fuel-cell designers, electrolyzer makers -- that were dabbling in hydrogen power. The group promoted the use of hydrogen but was careful not to take any position on who would make the fuel or how.
All that changed once the energy industry got involved. "All of a sudden Shell joined our board, and then the interest grew very quickly," says Karen Miller, the association's vice president. "Our chair last year was from BP; this year our chair is from ChevronTexaco." The companies quickly began to use the association as a platform to lobby for more federal funding for research, and to push the government to emphasize fossil fuels in the national energy plan for hydrogen. Along with the big automakers, energy companies also formed a consortium called the International Hydrogen Infrastructure Group to monitor federal officials charged with developing fuel cells. "Basically," says Neil Rossmeissl, a hydrogen standards expert at the Department of Energy, "what they do is look over our shoulder at doe to make sure we are doing what they think is the right thing."
As hydrogen gained momentum, the oil companies rushed to buy up interests in technology companies developing ways to refine and store the new fuel. Texaco has invested $82 million in a firm called Energy Conversion Devices, and Shell now owns half of Hydrogen Source. BP, Chevron-Texaco, ExxonMobil, Ford, and General Electric have also locked up the services of many of America's top energy scientists, devoting more than $270 million to hydrogen research at MIT, Princeton, and Stanford.
Such funding will help ensure that oil and gas producers continue to profit even if automakers manage to put millions of fuel-cell cars on the road. "The major energy companies have several hundred billions of dollars, at the least, invested in their businesses, and there is a real interest in keeping and utilizing that infrastructure in the future," says Frank Ingriselli, former president of Texaco Technology Ventures. "And these companies certainly have the balance sheets and wherewithal to make it happen."
The stakes in the current battle over hydrogen are high. Devoting the bulk of federal research funding to making hydrogen from fossil fuels rather than water will enable oil and gas companies to provide lower-priced hydrogen. That, in turn, means that pipelines built to transport hydrogen will stretch to, say, a BP gas field in Canada, rather than an independent wind farm in North Dakota. Even if the rest of the world switches to hydrogen manufactured from water, says Nicklas, "Americans may end up dependent on fossil fuels for generations."
The administration's plans to manufacture hydrogen from fossil fuels could also contribute to global warming by leaving behind carbon dioxide. Oil and coal companies insist they will be able to "sequester" the carbon permanently by pumping it deep into the ocean or underground. But the doe calls such approaches "very high risk," and no one knows how much that would cost, how much other environmental disruption that might cause, or whether that would actually work. "Which path we take will have a huge effect one way or the other on the total amount of carbon pumped into the atmosphere over the next century," says James MacKenzie, a physicist with the World Resources Institute.
Even if industry manages to safely contain the carbon left behind, the Bush administration's plan to extract hydrogen from fossil fuels will wind up wasting energy. John Heywood, director of MIT's Sloan Automotive Lab, says a system that extracts hydrogen from oil and natural gas and stores it in fuel cells would actually be no more energy efficient than America's present gasoline- based system.
"If the hydrogen does not come from renewable sources," Heywood says, "then it is simply not worth doing, environmentally or economically."
Hey - Just to let you know Hydrogen is in water and.. Stan Meyer did so you can tap your fuel from the tap driectly by injecting a resonant frequency to the water so it released hydrogen.. And I going to do this!!
video.google.com -- Search stanley Meyer
Way back then, I thought
Way back then, I thought that hydrogen cars would take at least another quarter century before they can have a major impact on the market. But I was wrong, this time hydrogen cars are starting to hit the market.
IT DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY
THE MAIN THING IS GET OFF OF THE FORIGN OIL ADDICTION FIRST THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THE OIL COMPANIES AN THEIR ILK.
Iceland's already in the process of creating an economy based upon Hydrogen power fueled by geysers. There are already hydrogen battery-powered busses which cost the same amount to run as gas-powered ones. Soon,the entire fishing fleet of Iceland will be powered by Hydrogen. So--it can be done properly--the powers that be just have to have the will to do it.
Hydrogen energy is nothing but a plant to subsidize with public funds the U.S.car industry, which currently is in the throes of death like General Motors.Same thing for the oil, coal, gas natural and nuclear conglomerates.Money ,money and money.No one can believe that Bush stands for a green economy.It´s preposterous.
Needless to say that I can´t stand Jeremy Rifkin. He´s a quack.
The u.s. has been off the gold standard for quite awhile meaning our currency is only paper and backed by nothing. so, the government can basically create however much money that they see fit. Car companies are already creating hydrogen cars. The government should fund the complete creation and developement of hydrogen production plants using solar and wind energy and breaking down water through electralosis. also, they would need to fund the creation of nationwide refueling centers and the exchange out of gasoline cars from americans to new hydrogen cars. this would be quite a move that would require major balls and sky rocket national debt. The only way this would be possible would be because of "free" energy from solar and wind sources, the production cost would be quite low. After implementation, the u.s. could add a tax on to the cost, making it equivilant to $2.25 a gallon and due to wide-spread use nationwide, they would be collecting somewhere around 80% theoretically to battle the damage done to the national debt. In a approximately a decades time, we would have no national debt, no pollution, and the oil companies would still be making phenomenal profits. Let us also not forget that with significant improvement to pollution levels, our personal health would improve due to less toxins in the air, our immune systems would work better. This would create a decline in healthcare cost. Also, our food production would increase due to better conditions for farming and agriculture. After correcting the national debt, much of the "taxed" profits could be used to develope and upgrade the u.s.'s flawed energy system (in reference to in-home electricity). Please, if you see a reason this wouldn't work, please let me know -- bradley.clonch@astaraircargo.us
I think mabe we should get joe hydrogen from austrailia to be president
i want to make a bike on this technique..so please send me some informatio on this concept..
Yah well i guess it's just going to be that much longer until the majority relizes that oil and other fossil fuels arn't going to be here forever. and that doesn't mean relying to power our "post oil era" with...... huh, what was it? OIL! half of oil is hydrogen, wow, 2/3 of water is hydrogen. BUSH i used to think you were cool, but making the WHOLE pourpose of making a hydro economy is for us to NOT be dependent on foregn fossil Fuels and not have to pay 5 dollars a gallon.
Hydrogen-fuelled cars will not be pollution-free, by no means.The water vapor from the exhaust pipes may increase the greenhouse effect in much the same manner as carbon dioxide does.
The oil-peak is at the gates, and Bush´s Saudi "allies" are not reliable (who was behind the 9-11?).
To the person that wrote: "Hydrogen-fuelled cars will not be pollution-free, by no means.The water vapor from the exhaust pipes may increase the greenhouse effect in much the same manner as carbon dioxide does." Are you serious? Dang with all those oceans being hit by the sun you would think we would all be dead by now if that was the case.. I mean come on.. Do you think before you type? How is pure clean water vapor going to harm anything? Every lake, stream, ocean, mud puddle, or tea kettle on the planet produces it? Its a part of the natural cycle of this planet.. its what life is.... people.. I swear
Next the govt will begin a smear campagn showing how dangerous making your own hydrogen at home is. It will be like bootlegging fuel. People need to take control of the country again, not politicians.
newest innovation of
newest innovation of hydrogen cars is what people need. electric cars and hybrids are on the right track, so as to hydrogen vehicles.
i think dat this is just wierd and what are the 5 fossil fuels 4 h/w
It will take the fall of our government to keep the oil companies from running our country and world into the ground for their own profit. It's sad but it's true.
hey hey hey smoke weed everyday!
hydro cars are going to be the bomb.....
I think all of this is very insteresting
it has made me think about how much gas actully comes out of my car! I personly thik that george bush is not very good being a presidant but anyway overall exelent!
I think President Bush sucks. I mean what is wrong with him! I really despise politicians but he is in a category all by himself.
Ravious, although I´m all at sea when it comes to science, let me point out once again that more water vapor entails more greenhouse effect. I say it in earnest. And the idyllic hydrogen economy shall mean more methane &hydrogen in the atmosphere. Perhaps in the long run the hydrogen economy may pay off, but for the time being is nothing but bad science and groundless public relations. Have a try with "The Hype about Hydrogen", The Hydrogen Hoax",etc.And polish up my harrowing English if necessary.
hybrid cars can produce there own hho whilst runing on it
Never say never, Hydrogen is the answer, just not through chemical means which most are familiar with.
Have you seen the news clip of salt water ignition through radio wave frequency modulation to convert hydrogen, similar to what hydrogen fusion conversion utilizes.
Just one more half truth spoken by a man who is is a lying, self serving [deleted]!
Amzing what a few years means in the field of science research into hydrogen fusion. This article is ancient history in just a few years.
seems as though big companies and big government are hell bent on ruining the planet even using hydrogen and oxygen, the cleanest of the clean fuels. Leave it to government and large corporations to somehow find a way to mess up even the clean fuel equation, way to go, F@@@ers!
Has it ever occured to you, that your beloved rotten liberals have no better approach at all to solving the energy issue then President Bush ??? So if you are genuinly interested in advancing this good idea , stop blaming "reds" as you put it . Leftists or "blues" are not any better.I speak from one-on-one experience!! Let me break it to you: No political party is interested in free energy !! Stop solving it from political point of view if you genuinly want this to happen. Remember that all politicians live on our taxes!!! This issue will only be solved by putting politics aside, and
all of us who see the importance of clean and cheap energy such as Hydregen from water, work togeather "red" and "blue" alike!!! That way I am in it all the way.
We all need to get off this political blame game.The politicians(right or left) will not make any kind of hydrogen economy, it is up to you and me! It is right in your water supply. All of you "do it your selfers" start experimenting and reaserching. I am successfully producing hydrogen from my home. Currently I am building a hyrogen generator to run my truck. And for those who say hydrogen is not fully clean, then I must disagree.NASA uses hydrogen to power the rockets. The by product is water, which the astronauts use for drinking. Water vapor is essential to life on this planet and without it temperatures would skyrocket. Hence it is the water vapor in the atmosphere that reduces temperature, not what causes the greenhouse effect. That is obsured. So lets all stop arguing about whos fault it is and do something about it!!!!
i'll tell you why bush and the oil companies want to stay with oil to make hydrogen-they dont want to lose their power. we as AMERICANS need to stand up to our some what corrupt government and get rid of the oil companies. they are a major part of our problem. all they care about is money. they dont care about the earth. I personally dont want to die because our earth is so polluted. Hydrogen and wind power are the ways to go. the u.s. needs to get away from foreign fuel and perhaps even their food.
it's very different idea then diffcult
the thing is now the world is quite aware of the globals state. The people incharge need to get an act together and stop lieing about how much fossil fuels are actually being used, and do something about it!!!
Remove this article please. The only way the government can fund this research is if it uses fossil fuels to do it. Bush cannot fund anything that kills off the oil companies, it wont be allowed to pass. We need all types of research into this. Later on we can research directly banana peel to hydrogen conversions. Bush will help us. This legislation must pass. Thanks
K Rove did not write this.
Thanks
i dont like you i really!! dont like you!! robert!!
OK , So whos the clever kiddy that is going to set up a site where we can all sighn our names to a global Petition , they couldnt ignore that six billion signitures, lets see then hush that up!
It does make sense. Technology is available to use hydrogen from water to fuel internal combustion engines, home furnaces, lawn mowers and lighting.
No more need for oil other than to lubricate equipment. It is already like the dying days of the 1800s when the buggy whip factory looked at the first automobiles - No more use for buggy whips. Saudia Arabia has nothing but oil. Well you get the idea. Hydrogen use is like the first look at the firest automobiles. Realize it.
After implementation, the u.s. could add a tax on to the cost, making it equivilant to $2.25 a gallon and due to wide-spread use nationwide-- B. Clouch.
First, $2.25 a gallon is not cheap for the masses. However I do agree with you, about hydrogen being produced from solar power and wind energy by converting water through electralosis.
My take on the issue is that someone should stand up for Americans, in these energy meeting and tell these oil and natural gas companies how stupid they really sound. Water is a resource that will be around until the end of the earth, not to mention that is the most abundant element on this Planet. There is no way anyone can convince me, we still need fossil fuels. It just does not make any sense, why would any one in their right mind even consider using the very fuel source that we are trying to eliminate (fossil fuels) to make Hydrogen which is easily made from water. If I had my way I would tell these oil companies that they need to invest their money into something other than oil, because your time is done. Otherwise, American will be suck in the 20th century for generations to come.
Yea so we can fill his pockets. Bush apointed himself Dictator if you didnt figure that out yet
What an excellent piece of research. I don't feel so ignorant about the subject now. I will say it is hard to get information on the practical availability of this tech.
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to stop this [deleted]rom being a reality.Than[deleted]s to ro[deleted][deleted][deleted]ellers and standard oil. [deleted]ompetition is a sin!
hydrogen production from fossil fuels from a physics standpoint will require more energy input than cracking hydrogen on an as needed basis thru a on board fuel cell. therefore, adding fuel costs instead of reducing costs and making hyd. fuel less [ none] expensive and less of a pollutant. the energy industry is facing a reality check of a tall order. this technology is being developed by independant small time real people with many successful prototypes. this is not rocket science thus does not require further complications/ money grabbing from big oil. energy salvation is at hand and with this enviromental recovery will follow suit.
Hydrogen can easly be made on demand by your own car as it is running.why should people pull up to a pump and pay some rich ass holes more money.Stop the peramid pull out from the bottom.
Dave writes:"OK , So whos the clever kiddy that is going to set up a site where we can all sighn our names to a global Petition , they couldnt ignore that six billion signitures, lets see then hush that up!"
How to ignore 6 billion online signatures:
(1) Don't go to the website.
(2) Repeat if necessary.
Passive-aggressive doesn't cut it!
Can you say may what are the contra aspects of an hydrogen car?
thank you
I feel the bush administation is too caught up in the bush's partime job in the oil market.Why would there be any dependencies to oil or fossil fuels with hydrogen technology that has been out before i was born 37. I almost thought this article was a joke but i see now it isnt. The public needs to know that other countries are beating us in renueables and alternative energy methods.Iceland is a good example. They used the ready or not stradagy and offered conversions for combustion motors. They were set a date were the last gas station will be closed permanantly and they stuck to it. The cost of materials to make a hydrogen splitter are increasing in cost for some reason. If the government would work on helping develope conversion kits for petrolium cars that are existant today at a discount, educate the public into the idea,set a futuristic date where you must be independant from fossil fuels and stick to it.The only way i had found out about hydrogen power is by mistake looking at propane conversion..everything to power production to marine auto homes buisnesses everything would benefit.. what are they waiting for?I think the petrolium industy has soaked us for enouph and have become verry wealthy.If we put as much into hydrogen methods as we do petrolium methods we would be fulling up at the garden hose every morning instead of worrying should i fill up or pay the morgage. I think the petrolium price gougeing is due to the industrie trying to get as much money out of us till we get smart enough to realize weave been taken.. By our government and by our oil companies..
Wonder why Bush did not divert more money, enrgy and efforts in further developing fuel cell and Hydrgen technology. This could have saved many lives now endangered due to his wrong Iraq policy basically to take control of oil resources there.World will curse this war monger once he becomes a history as the worst ever US President.



























