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Palin's Last Act: Parental Consent
As I tweeted yesterday, when MoJo was reduced to a twitter-only operation, the day before Sarah Palin annouced her resignation, one of Alaska's top public health officials was forced out for butting heads with Palin over social issues, specifically a provision that would require that girls under the age of 17 obtain parental consent before getting an abortion. Beverly Wooley, state public health director, was the second official to be forced out over this issue. The state's chief medical officer, Jay Butler, left in late June. Both made the critical mistake of wanting to present scientific evidence on the impact of parental consent laws to the state Senate. They never got the chance; the Senate "ran out of time." From the Anchorage Daily News:
Wooley said she also intended to answer questions from legislators and said she would rely on data, not anyone's personal beliefs. Whether she personally agreed with the governor is beside the point, Wooley said.
She intended to refer to studies from states that already had passed similar legislation, she said. Some of the research shows that, with parental involvement requirements, girls tend to get abortions later in their pregnancy, which is riskier and more expensive, she said. Other research shows fewer girls get abortions, which abortion foes like Palin likely would applaud. Wooley cautioned that the studies are small and not definitive because such laws are still fairly new.
"You let those facts speak for themselves. And truly, people will interpret those facts differently based on their own personal history and experience," Wooley said.
That was enough to get her canned. And guess what? The next day, the very day that Palin resigned:
A proposal to require parental notice or consent before a female younger than 18 could have an abortion was certified Thursday by the state so that its backers can seek enough signatures to get the initiative before voters next year.
So, Sarah Palin may be gone soon. But her policies live on. And no matter where her career takes her (Fox News anchor gig?), her last act cements her bona fides with pro-lifers. Which can only help her ability to raise or earn money.
Palin and fertility
Of course it it a sin to be fertile and the remedy for being naughty and fertile is to have an abortion. Why do the democrats not force all baby girls to have hysterectomies before they leave hospital and start a compulsory hysterectomy program along with the vaccinations. A few of the girls could be spared and inseminated artificially by the homosexual couples who obvioulsy could not have children within their relationships.And some kept for the randy administrators to provide them with fun and children. Only homosexual marriages will be recognised and they will only be able to adopt the children (who may actually be theirs anyway). The USSA could extend the activities of PP in China to include the USSA so ridding the country of fertility entirely. The girls who are used for breeding then can be shown the same contempt as Palin is.
To be a lifegiver is an amazing gift but the envy of others has rendered it contemptible in today's and tomorrow's new world.
The lefties could go one better yet and make it a criminal offense to refuse someone sex if they are black or homosexual.
This rule will not apply to the fertile women who will remain state property and told continuously they are stupid and only good for breeding. Is this not like the press do to Palin?
How far are we from this? How near are we to this? Hysterectomies are not needed because the contraceptives ands promiscuity cause widespread sterilisation...EXCEPT for teens. They will have to have forced abortions or hysterectomies because they are too fertile for the contraception to work. When little girls are told not to tell mum and even taken out of state, is that forced abortion? In the UK, compulsory hysterectomies have been done for over ten years. Do you really like the lefties agendas or does Palin look a bit better now? Those who are better informed are the ones for Palin.
Dear paranoid nitwit
The left isn't trying to force anyone to do anything. That's why the left's position is called pro-choice.
It's the right that wants to mandate something - they want to mandate pregnancies be carried to term. Never mind that this is even less successful than prohibition, and that women will find a way to get an abortion even if it is dangerous and illegal. Never mind that the right wants to force full term pregnancies on women who have been raped, even when it was by an immediate family member.
Why don't you conservatives just admit you want to tear up the constitution, eliminate all rights, rule from the Old Testament, and install Jesus as president. Better yet, since no one in the Bible used the internet or computers, why don't you declare computers to be sinful, and all of you promise to never touch one again.
Oh, and voting machines, also not in the Bible. Nobody voted, Jesus never voted, so you Christians should never vote.
I feel like I just saw every
I feel like I just saw every completely cartoonish insult made against liberated people flash before my eyes within seconds.
Forced abortions? Forced hysterectomies? Setting aside children for pedophiles? Rape of women based on race?
I'm sure the poster truly believes all of this and for me to comment-- you know... This is what this person thinks of the human race. This is their outlook on who we, as humans, really are down to the core. Unless you are sitting on that pedestal with them pointing fingers you are someone who would take part in the horrors they are describing above. Of course, there is always projection... where those who suspect do so because they so easily recognize familiar traits within themselves and apply it to others.
USSA! I get it!
Reply to Palin and Fertility
It it obvious that you are not only racist but also ignorant and not well educated on the issue. You go right ahead and support Palin it takes uneducated Rednecks to support a hipocryte like her. Palin opens her moth and everyone know she has the IQ of a carrot and a ton of skeletons in her closet to boot. Thank God she is gone. But I wouldn't doubt that she will pop up like a bad penny sooner or later. Palin being informed? Ah yes she reads ALL news papers LOLOL BTW I think its a great idea for her to relocate to Russia since she can see Russia from her home. It must be walking distance .. The Russians would give her and her brood the right welcome. Oh and to my delight the redneck bunch would be followed by Peed off wolves to bid them good bye . (Of course we would confiscate Toods and his wifeys rifles)
Palin
The only ones FOR Palin are the IDIOTS in the Republican Party. Hopefully, the rest of the GOP has better sense.
U stirred up a hornets nest..
..with this posting, because posts are not usually connected unlike this anonymous character. FYI, forced vaccinations have been codified by law and forced (drug induced) hysterectomies could become a reality one day in the USSA.
Of course, this is not a likely occurrence any more than the other points written in the above piece, however, I do not agree with the notion that minors in any state have a right to automatic, taxpayer funded abortions on demand.
Given that 25% (or better) of folks having children are unqualified to do so, perhaps a more democratic approach to abortion would be to have those in favor of it pay into a fund that could then be used to cover the costs of these procedures, including education on how not to use abortion as birth control.
Reply
But surely you understand that tax payers can pay the $400 to subsidize an abortion or pay the $4,000,000 in incarceration costs, court fees, social welfare, etc. that come along with people raising kids (poorly) that they aren't ready for?
Don't turn this into a money issue, you can't win.
Imagine my surprise
when I took my 14 year old son to the ER a few years back and was not allowed to make medical decisions for him. Seems the law in my state says that a child 14 or older has complete control of his/her medical care.
Now, I don't know if this is common in other states but if it is why is parental consent needed for a girl to make her own medical decisions?
no one uses abortion as a
no one uses abortion as a birth control method. abortion is a last resort to an unintended pregnancy. people enjoy using birth control and condoms for birth control. i don't believe that any woman is thinking, "hey, should i use birth control or an abortion for protection? how about abortion, that sounds like fun" it is offensive and extremely inaccurate to say that women use abortion as a form of birth control. thank god that abstinence only education isn't getting any more funding, now young women won't be ignorant about birth control and condoms
Palin and fertulity
No comment ....you're just so stupid !
Palin and Fertility seems to
Palin and Fertility seems to have as much ability to use logic and reason and Palin herself has. If Palin's future work is concerning a "higher" calling, I hope she stays out of politics. We have all seen where state religion has taken Iran. Fox News would probably love to have Sarah Palin as a "news" caster, after all, they seem to be thrilled to feature the crazy comments made by that very strange Michelle Bachman of Minnesota. Michelle's a very religious person, also. Maybe she and Palin could start another church.
My sincere condolences on
My sincere condolences on the loss of the anonymous poster's mind.
hysterectomies!
I'm sorry, you should never write to a blog under the influence, it's a very PUBLIC forum and should be respected for opinions that are carefully expressed. Read aloud what you just wrote, if you truly think that's a viable option for a sane society, you need to relocate!
Palin and fertility
Where in the hell did that post come from? Is this a joke? I havent heard such complete nonsense and incomprehensible babble since, well, Palins last speech.
Your point is that democrats and "lefties" are going to regulate all sexual activity and start breeding people like animals? Way to sound sane there.
Hilarious!
"Those who are better informed are the ones for Palin"
That's the funniest thing I've ever read here! Those of us who are "better informed" see that the Republicans who are abandoning their support for Palin are the ones who have worked closest with her - McCain's staff during the campaign, and legislators in Alaska. Her strongest supporters are those who don't know her well, and have not had to work with her. Gee, maybe that should tell you somehing!
To know her is to realize that there is no "there" there. It's all a smile and a wink, you betcha!
Goodness... I don't even
Goodness... I don't even know what to say about the ramblings of the previous commenter. I hope they're joking?
On the topic of the article, I'm really dreading Palin bringing her politics to the 'lower 48'. If she can't hack it in Alaska, she's not going to hack it here. After all of the gains women have made in politics she is such a step backwards.
The better informed are for Palin??
Right. For Palin that celebrated wonderwomen, that could not remember one of the Supreme Court decision. The one about the Exxon spill that was handed out during her tenure as a governor. She is right about one thing, though. Alaska will be far better without her in the office. She can be Mark Sanford's running mate. Or just a mate. Or maid.
Palin as FAUX SNEWZ Anchor
Just imagine!
The ultimate mega-stupid governor in all of America leaves Alaska to become a Faux Snewz Anchor.
Results: A rise in the cumulative IQs of Alaska and the Snewz Room at Faux.
As an anchor Palin would is just dead weight either in deep water far over her head or tightly "wound up'' clanking loudly and dangerously against the "ship of state" in stormy weather.
The Skeptical Cynic hath spake.
It is truly written in the sands of time…
One must never spit in a man's face....
Unless, of course, his moustache is on fire!
Word of Wisdom from from the Imam Ibeen Medullah Oblongatah
Palin resignation
She formed a PAC. She got a taste of NATIONAL media attention. She has a small but EXTREMLY vocal part of her party's base describing her as the only hope for the Republican party. Why all the mystery about her reason for leaving office? A "higher calling" (??)..Why is it that so many politicians and political pundits blame someone (something) else for their political aspirations ? if you are jumping into national politics there is nothing to be embarrased about. If you want to be your state's next Senator, fine. Say it.. If that is in fact the case, then yes you are doing the State of Alaska a great service leaving office to dedicate your time to your campaign. Be proud of it. If you stayed as governor you WOULD be shirking your duties. If you stayed as governor you would not be able to prepare yourself for this next step in your polical career. The only reason I can think of for such non-commital statements is that you are not sure of your party's commitment to your desire to move up in the party and don't want to shoot yourself in the foot politically..
Palin is a joke
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Palin is a joke
everything except the timing
Pro-lifers and pro-choicers agree on everything except the timing; i.e., the time to decide when to have a child is before fertilization, not after. Abortion is not a confrontation between misogynistic oppressors of women and cold-blooded "baby killers," rather it is a rational, secular debate on when human rights should begin.
Unfortunately, both sides are engaged in a propaganda war. Dr. Bernard Nathanson (co-founder of NARAL; a physician who presided over some 60,000 abortions before changing sides on the issue), writes in his 1979 book, Aborting America:
"...the Right-to-Lifers are not in favor of all 'life' under all circumstances. They are not in the forefront of the save-the-seals crusade. They are not devotees of Albert Schweitzer's 'reverence for life,' or its equivalent in Eastern religions, in which the extinction of cows or flies somehow violates the sanctity of the cosmos.
"Turning to the human species, they do not necessarily oppose the taking of life via capital punishment. Where were they when Caryl Chessman was executed for a crime he likely did not commit--and a rape at that, not a murder?
"They were likely not notably in the opposition while the United States was sacrificing lives on both sides of a questionable war in Viet Nam.
"They are not 'pro-life'; they are simply anti-abortion. "
However, Dr. Nathanson goes on to say about those who object to being labeled "pro-abortion" and prefer to call themselves "pro-choice":
"This is the Madison Avenue euphemism of the other side. Who could possibly be opposed to something so benign as 'choice' ? The answer is: Almost anyone--depending. The diehard opposition to civil rights and public accommodations for black Americans in the '50s and '60s was 'pro-choice' with a vengeance. Some whites wanted the 'right' to serve hamburgers or rent hotel rooms to whomever they wished.
"Most of us now oppose the concept of 'choice' in such ugly claims. The true question is, 'What choice is being offered, and should society sanction that choice?' In any honest discussion we must focus upon what is being chosen, without hiding behind the slogan."
On the Democrats-For-Life e-list several years ago, Louis Shapiro asked: Why do supporters of abortion rights, who dislike being labeled "pro-abortion" and prefer to call themselves "pro-choice," object to "Choose Life" license plate frames as well, when the slogan capitulates to the other side by inferring "Choice" ?!
And women aren't out there getting "recreational" abortions, either. A Feminists For Life pamphlet, What Women Really Want, from the mid-1990s says:
"Since both sides of the abortion issue agree that no woman wants to have an abortion, it is a cruel hoax to call abortion a woman's 'choice.' No woman should be forced to choose between relinquishing life and career plans or suffering through a humiliating, invasive procedure and sacrificing her child. Abortion is a last resort, not a free choice."
We see those on the pro-choice side opposing even reasonable restrictions on abortion. Our laws require parental notification or consent if minors want tattoos or pierced ears, why should abortion be exempt? The decision to take a life is very grave, so why is it unreasonable to require a 24 hour waiting period, to give a new mother time to think things through, rather than make a decision in haste? The pro-choice rhetoric that women are capable of deciding for themselves whether or not to carry a child to term means they ought to be able to make *informed* choices. The informed consent or "women's right to know" laws advocated by pro-lifers are consistent with pro-choice rhetoric. Even many on the pro-choice side are uncomfortable with abortion during the later stages of pregnancy: yet they are often reluctant to support a ban on partial-birth abortions--a procedure which is never medically "necessary," and which former Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan likened to infanticide.
In Guerilla Apologetics for Life Issues, Paul Nowak points out that Planned Parenthood opposes even reasonable restrictions upon abortion, such as 24 hour waiting periods, parental notification, informed consent, etc. Nowak writes: "Planned Parenthood opposes clinic regulations, despite the fact that in many states there are more restrictions on veterinary clinics than self-regulated abortion facilities."
Since the goal of the pro-choice movement is to "keep abortion safe and legal," why does Planned Parenthood object to clinic regulations?
Again, both sides are engaged in a propaganda war.
pro-lifers pro-choicers
The most intelligent discussion I've read on the topic. I expect, if we lived in a world were the right to abort was not always under eminent threat of being taken away that there would be less resistance to sensible policies such as those you mentioned. It would indeed be a good world if the women confronted with the option could more readily find a place that was non-judgmental and supportive while simultaneously providing a broad spectrum of information.
The one concern I have with your discourse is that of requiring parental consent. Though at first glance it may appear that requiring parental consent is a good idea, to a freighted young girl who doesn’t know what to do, confiding in parents may be an extremely difficult thing to do under such circumstances. As some preliminary findings suggest in states that require parental consent, young women in such circumstances are slower to disclose, thus leading into the controversial realm of later abortions. Plus, in the very tragic cases were the impregnator is the parent, requiring parental consent would very likely only add tragedy upon tragedy. Such a requirement seems reasonable but it could carry with it some troubling side affects.
A few minor objections...
While I applaud the generally even-handed attempt made, I do have a few small quibbles re: your "reasonable restrictions upon abortion." As another poster has pointed out, preliminary data show that parental notification often results in later abortions, rather than earlier.
Second, while "informed consent" sounds like a great idea, it's another one of those political names that are meant to cloud bad ideas in fluffy rhetoric; what they actually tend to wind up doing is forcing women to view a conservative propaganda video about the gruesomeness of abortions. If a woman wants to make an informed decision, there are plenty of sources of information to be found, and if she doesn't want to know, well, why should she? Our society has generally already agreed that abortions are moral and safe enough to be accepted as legal.
The bit about mandatory waiting periods, frankly, just seems silly. Where else do we require people to wait for medical operations?
And, as a final note, the debate is certainly not secular. Or, perhaps more precisely, the debate is secular, but the reasons for it taking place are clearly not. As Monty Python satirized, every spermy has a soul... The debate will move forward when pro-lifers can drop the shenanigans and admit that they aren't relying on scientific evidence for their opposition to abortion, but rather on their respective faiths.
Where to start
"We see those on the pro-choice side opposing even reasonable restrictions on abortion. Our laws require parental notification or consent if minors want tattoos or pierced ears, why should abortion be exempt? The decision to take a life is very grave, so why is it unreasonable to require a 24 hour waiting period, to give a new mother time to think things through, rather than make a decision in haste?"
Really? I know a lot of pro-choice people and not a one of them opposes 'reasonable' restrictions.
As someone who has many tattoos I know from experience that the majority of reputable shops won't tattoo anyone under 18 even with consent.
As I said in an earlier comment, the law in my state says that the medical age of consent is 14. I don't know if other states have similar laws but if they do how would you propose to limit the medical care a minor female could consent to?
I can tell you from first hand knowledge that the decision to abort is RARELY made in haste and to force a woman to wait 24 hours to receive medical services is crap.
"Even many on the pro-choice side are uncomfortable with abortion during the later stages of pregnancy: yet they are often reluctant to support a ban on partial-birth abortions--a procedure which is never medically "necessary," and which former Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan likened to infanticide."
You lost me as soon as you used the bulls**t term 'partial-birth abortions' instead of what they really are; late term abortions and who are you to say they are 'never medically necessary?' Partial-birth abortion is a myth that the anti-choice like to propogate.
"Again, both sides are engaged in a propaganda war."
Yeah, you did your part for the anti-choice side of the 'war.'
Palin
She is no joke...laughable, but no joke. The same ignorant voters that put W in office will willingly vote for Palin. Palin is nothing more than W in an attractive package. After the wrecking ball of the Bush administration, I really worry about an ambitious idiot like Palin getting in office.
Reduce abortions by offering true sex ed in school
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If "pro-life"/"anti-abortion" people were serious about reducing abortion they would support real sex education in schools. Kids, teens, and adults have a lot of misconceptions about contraception works. If people knew more about their choices and weren't afraid to use contraception we would have many, many fewer abortions that weren't about the health of the mother.
SHOULD CHRISTIANS VOTE?
I grant you that such a waste of time is voting. Indeed, Jesus and his troops never did it and look how far he got with their thing! They first made to Rome and soon later the rest of the World -- the first multi-national to install itself here...
But of course, voting is a sole invention to reinforce and provide reasons why elected candidates should dominate even further those idiots down the line, no matter if voters or not. So the major problem isn't voting or not voting but the whole invention of democracy, and its short-cuts for becoming full operational. Such as voting, elections, candidates and their phony and expensive publicity. And later the business of lobbying, senate and house meetings, fantastic lovers who will do miracles in and out the bed to have a law approved or rejected...
We all know the church(s) ain't that liberal to begin with either. Should we do like they do, instead? Rich Catholic popes and even richer Anglican bishops, with their natural followers, rather ready to get themselves in trouble with the press and the courts in weird homosexual or pedolhilic practices...
I fear that in the very end it boils down to one point: good people versus bad people.
Were there nasty bad guys in Jesus crowd? One, at least, is known to have been there in hidding, just to the last minute.
Hence, the famous analogy of cockroaches in your kitchen: if you see one it means that there are at least another hundred nicely hidden...
Never mind, most people is fed up with voting, no matter for whom.
Instead we all should have a nice actor-dictator (like Mussolini) from time to time, self imposed and radiantly aproved by local intelligentzia and stupiditzia to remind us how nice is that shit of theirs: on his day even the trains runnned on time, the white telephone was imposed in Cinecitta films and spagetti sauce was made universal, for the glory of the kingdom!
That's all we need. Hanging them up after a while just to prove we (the people) are just a little better than them...
The wages of sex
The anti-choice crowd are basically anti-any-sex that does not result in pregnancy. It is the doing of the "Pro-Life" movement lobbying that birth control pills are not covered by most insurances but Viagra is...?!? Currently 40 per cent of US births are outside marriage. In the wake of the Bush Abstinence only "sex ed"policy, teenage pregnancies are on the rise for the first time since 1991. As single woman are usually under or uninsured and under paid, this dooms most of the 40 per cent of children born to lives of limited health care, resources and love. Sure you can love your child working two or three jobs, but the quality of that love and attention is alot more frayed, let's face it. Choice should revolve around people having babies when and if they are ready. Period. Waiting a couple years can make all the difference between a mere existence as a mother and truly loving it. Otherwise we will have a craggy nation of sickly, obese, low attention span children and adults. Oh, wait, we do already. And it's about to get worse. Thanks, "pro-life" movement!
..."most people IS fed up with voting..."
I just read the cult-speak from the Anon-poster...you gotta' love their story-telling, fundamentalist evangelical delusions...."most people is fed up with voting..."; that's the best yet...
This whole notion of democracy being "the problem" stems from the mentally challenged (like the "Anon-poster/mostly evangelicals) who have decided that the institution of "voting", in order to have democracy as a ruling agent, is "man-made law", not THEIR god's law and, it was started by....wait for it...the ancient gays!
Yep, that's right! If you Google this bizarre, far-right, fake christian view of voting, you'll find it! These mentally challenged evangelical cultist push an interpretation that democracy is a form of Satanism, that man made laws are not god's will according to their bible and therefore, voting and democracy were invented by the homosexuals. And so was abortion, Viagra, the pro-life movement, right Anon?
THIS IS WHY THE BIBLE THUMPING BASE OF THE REPUBKICAN PARTY STOMP ON THE CONSTITUTION AND WANT IT OVER-TURNED!!! As I recall, the evangelical cults didn't used to vote at all because they didn't want to be involved in politics because it was "unchristian-like"...but now, they themselves engage in "Satan's Tool" to "elect" people like Sara Palin to office. Sinners, I tell ya', sinners!
People aren't fed up with voting; they are fed up with cheating, liars, traitors and gutter rats, like Palin, who belch up their ugliness on democracy, on American every chance they get.
What was Sarah Palin's "last
What was Sarah Palin's "last act"? The article doesn't say.
FAILURE"S
What it come's down to is these christian parents are failing to control there children.Let's take Mrs.Palin daughter for instance "WHY" did'nt Gods word work to control bristol's desire to have sex. I am a believer and what bristol said its not real because Sarah and Todd are Fake's there claim that they are christians is for personal gain and nothig else.Its politicaly correct These republicans are "WHITE WASHED WALLS" fakes and frauds.With recent sexual scandel by these FRAUDS is a testimony to there phony claim to I am a conservative christian is phony label to pander to the base of the Evangelic's.There dakness will be exposed by the same light they claim to have .As a believer I believe that its between God and any women who decide's to make any decession pretaining to her life.I do not judge lest I be judge that's whats wrong with these phony christians .They claim less government unless its for a womens choice. The last 8years by the Bush regime was a highjack by the Freemason secret society agenda Bush's phony claim he was christian also while belonging to a cult skull and bones he fooled the evangelic base to be something he is not .Just like Sarah they have there claws in Sarah's back and we will see the same presidency we had with Bush and Cheney If Sarah becomes president.She wont be president like Bush was'nt president Cheney was.Lets not fall for it twice ..........!
I am firmly pro-choice,
I am firmly pro-choice, believing that an abortion in almost all instances is solely a choice between a woman and her doctor (hopefully her partner, but I live in the real world). I believe in access to birth control for minors. However, I support- in most cases- if not parental consent at least parental notification for an abortion. It is a medical procedure. I can think of no other medical procedure where a parent has no input. Doctors will not treat minors for anything else without notification. I realize abortion is a special case, and think if a girl has made up her mind, she should have one, but not without a parent input, unless there are valid reasons for doing so, abuse, incest,etc. It's a shame that some girls would not have their parent's support at such a trying time, but in most cases I have to go with at least letting a parent know.
Christianity, Palin, voting, et al
I am Christian, pro-choice, happy that Palin has stepped down, concerned that she might step up or be permitted to step into national politics, affirm an informed electorate and the privlege of the vote, decry the injustice of war and occupation especially US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, long for a world of peace and loving justice, support full human rights and dignity for all people including LGBT persons, appreciate the best that science offers and affirm a creative force behind all things (this mystery I call God), and I wrestle with the ambiguities and paradoxes of life. I love art, theater, independent films, reading a broad range of religious litertaure and general literature (including Mother Jones!), rugby and surfing. Basically, I love life in all its fullness and dislike the stereotypes of Christianity but realize that rightwing fundamentalists set themselves up for this. I'm not sure if this comment fits here here but after reading how Christians are stereotyped and dinged I wanted to offer an alternative. Peace.
Focus on Making Abortion Unecessary
CS - I largely agree with you, but as far as parental notification is concerned: if the parent is abusive, and especially if the parent caused the pregnancy, notifying the parent can result in serious harm to the minor. That's why the current mechanism of having to present the minor's case to a judge seems like the best method. The judge basically assumes a guardian ad litem role for the minor, looking to serve the minor's best interests.
In General - Adult women are intelligent moral agents capable of making all sorts of moral decisions. They drive cars, use sharp knives, sign contracts, and even raise children. It's probably safe to assume that they can make moral decisions about the implications of a given pregnancy for themselves and their families.
While it is absolutely correct that the ideal is to prevent a pregnancy before it happens, it is also true that there are many factors that can make the ideal difficult to achieve: birth control failure, rape, lack of planning, and lack of awareness of options. In addition, there are many medical situations having nothing to do with birth control - anencephalitis, eclampsia, cancer, severe pregnancy-induced diabetes, stroke, and more, that make it imperative that a pregnancy end - some of which can't even be detected until very late in the pregnancy.
We would be much more successful at reducing abortions if we focused on reducing the things that create the need for abortion, such as pollution that leads to birth defects, poor nutrition from poverty, lack of access to reliable birth control, a culture that encourages rape and unprotected sex, the double-standard that makes pregnant single girls and women into pariahs while celebrating the male studs, and so on.
I've never met a single person who ever wanted to increase abortions, on either side of the debate. Instead, I see people who respect the woman's right to act as a moral agent, and those who want to reduce or eliminate the woman's role as moral agent.
SCANDALS!
PALIN MAY OR MAY NOT BE A SHADY CHARACTER.
THE RESIGNATION OF PALIN IS SUSPICIOUS.
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SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!
DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER!
George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.
“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten).
“George [Bush is personally complicit] in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of . . . George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).
McConnell is correct: George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.
While he was president, actually, George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked numerous people to the point that they could not get away from it, and they committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered them. During Bush’s presidency, of course Bush would have desired to kill people whom he hated or get them out of his way. Insofar as Bush was clearly capable of murdering Schoedinger—even in “broad daylight”—and is clearly capable of getting away with it, in consideration of common sense and the laws of human nature, Bush of course murdered numerous people in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger. For example, one can just look for various cases on the Internet; in situations where any number of people who sought to very substantially oppose or disadvantage Bush ever so predictably ended up “committing suicide”—actually—Bush patently murdered them just like he murdered Schoedinger. However, the vast majority of such scandalous information will never come out (the grisly details are typically hard to substantiate). A prosecutor really can lawfully charge a former president with murdering one or more people in the disgusting way Bush murdered Schoedinger. The American people unfortunately live in a world where evil presidents can murder any number of people—figuratively—with a wave of a magic wand and get away with it.
(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER” or “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death” or “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked numerous people to the point that they could not get away from it, and they committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered them,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.)
(Please feel free to see my “GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” blog.)
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Andrew Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
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