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Right-Wing Voters: Obama's Success = Destruction of USA

A new focus group study from the Democratic-friendly polling firm of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research shows that right-wing Republicans have jumped the political rails to inhabit a world of their own. The dominant "fact" for this band of conservatives is that President Barack Obama has a secret plan to impose socialism on the United States and repress the citizenry. Consequently, they believe that Obama's success is tantamount to the destruction of the country.

From the study:

The self-identifying conservative Republicans who make up the base of the Republican Party stand a world apart from the rest of America, according to focus groups conducted by DemocracyCorps. These base Republican voters dislike Barack Obama to be sure – which is not very surprising as base Democrats had few positive things to say about George Bush – but these voters identify themselves as part of a 'mocked' minority with a set of shared beliefs and knowledge, and commitment to oppose Obama that sets them apart from the majority in the country. They believe Obama is ruthlessly advancing a ‘secret agenda’ to bankrupt the United States and dramatically expand government control to an extent nothing short of socialism. While these voters are disdainful of a Republican Party they view to have failed in its mission, they overwhelmingly view a successful Obama presidency as the destruction of this country’s founding principles and are committed to seeing the president fail.

In a conference call, pollster Stan Greenberg and consultant/celebrity James Carville pointed out that this study—which was based on interviews with conservative Republicans in suburban Atlanta—did not identify race as a factor in shaping the attitudes of these right wingers. But the focus group participants believe that Obama is representing dark and unseen forces.

Karl Agne, a consultant who worked on the study, noted during the call that the participants became rather conspiratorial when discussing the president. Asked where Obama was born, these folks, according to Agne, took a deeply skeptical position: "You'll never know." They insisted that Obama's true past has been hidden and that the sort of information provided by previous presidents about their backgrounds has in the case of Obama been denied to the American public. They also believe that Obama is a front-man. As Agne describes it, they've concluded that "there is no way a community organizer could have risen to this point without powerful interests driving this....He couldn't have possibly done this on his own."

These conservatives repeatedly asserted that Obama has a grand plan to wreck the United States by both ruining the economy and destroying civil liberties. The report notes:

Conservative Republicans do not oppose Obama’s policies simply because they think they are misguided or out of partisan fervor. Rather, they believe his policies are purposely designed to fail. When they look at the totality of his agenda, they see a deliberate effort to drive our country so deep into debt, to make the majority of Americans so dependent on the government, and to strip away so many basic constitutional rights that we are too weak to fight back and have to accept whatever solution he proposes.

But the focus group participants, who expressed angry disappointment with the Republican Party and its leaders for not mounting a more fierce opposition, did note that something of an "underground movement" is building to resist Obama's plot. And they identified Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the so-called Tea Parties as manifestations of this nascent uprising.

So is this a problem for Obama? Probably not. The White House can dismiss this group as a right-wing fringe. The real dilemma is for the Republican Party. How can it speak to (or appease) these voters without appearing extreme and without alienating reasonable Republicans and independents? After all, GOP chairman Michael Steele, Republican congressional leaders, and the party's 2012 presidential contenders will have a tough time remaining in the real world while courting conservatives who reside somewhere else. But if GOP leaders don't join the underground movement hailed by these conservatives, won't that indicate that they, too, are part of the Obama conspiracy?

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It is disturbing. Is anyone

It is disturbing. Is anyone really surprised? Yet, it's verified as best can be for the time being. Still, I would feel better if this same poll or similar was conducted by an independent polling researcher (if one could ever find such an animal anywhere in existence). I don't trust the labels anymore. "Independent" feels like closet Republican and "Democratic Friendly" is sometimes Democratic Leadership Council thus Republican-Like. I want our polls to come from someplace neutral...again, good luck finding that. I also want Dr. Justin Frank MD, author of Bush On The Couch...to psychoanalyze the wackjobs that were polled.

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Also a problem for

defenders of Bi-Partisanship are even more out of touch than the Conservatives, and the right-wing disconnect is an even bigger embarrassment to them, which marginalizes the bi-partsans and makes them look even more ridiculous than the Conservatives, which is an even better thing.

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Where ideas come from

But this polling doesn't explain WHY 'reasonable' people would all, as a group, believe these things. Why they are prepared to believe such things. That is where we would find racism, cultism or whatever it is that causes them to believe en masse whatever Rush or Glenn or the RW politicians tell them. I felt very strongly about Bush, but you couldn't have told me outlandish things about him. There's something more here.

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reasonable ?

Reasonable people ? I think you answered your own question , these are not reasonable people but radical psychos and people with brains the size of a pea who buy into anything and everything Limbaugh and Beck tell them . If they had IQ's above 2 points and were able to use logic and reason they would not believe what they do .

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Where do these ideas come

Where do these ideas come from? "You are either for us or against us" describes the attitude of these base voters towards the Republican leaders, and unless the leaders accept the psychosis of the nuckin futs in the base, they will be removed. Arlen Specter saw it coming and left the R party. Who will be next?

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Yeah, I guess we are about

Yeah, I guess we are about due for a civil war/insurrection.

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Oh really?

These people may be on to something but it is deeper than they think. I think those concerns expressed by the participants are correct in most cases. Many democrates and independents feel this way. I unfortunatley think they are laying the blame at the wrong doorstep. The blame could be laid at Carter's, Regan's, Bush 41's, Clinton's, Bush 43.5's doorsteps along with Obamas somewhat so far. What is kind of funny is that this creep process only becomes something they want to think about because a black man is president - actually a mix-raced man became president. As for socialism, most of these people couldn't correctly spell it let alone define it. If they are so oppose to what they perceive as the socialization of America as I understand them to define it, then why don't they all stop traveling on public transportatin over goverment constructed roads, to the goverment run post office before dropping their kids off at the goverment run shools. Give me a break.

In my opinion the George Carvelle's of the world are part of the problem. If most people would take a step back from their rabid allegiance to both political parties, they could see them for what they are -different branches of corporate interest groups then they would see how corrupt the system really is. The true axis of evil is corporate America, lobbyist and wall street.

As for the sinister part, check this website out.

http://www.ohocomputer.com/Documents/Bible_Prophecy/Knowing_the_times_pa...

BureauCat

Corporatocracy

The tea-baggers' real enemy is the corporatocracy and the plutocracy, but the propoagandists have convinced them to blame government. For instance, off-shoring jobs: For 20 years or more we have seen headlines about GM and other big corporations laying off American workers and shipping jobs overseas, but somehow the tea-baggers think that (1) it is the government's fault, and (2) the government had better not intervene in the decisions that corporations make. There are a lot of fundamental problems in the US that harm the teabagger demographic, and each can be traced to the plutocracy, but in each case the propaganda blames the government, and too many people are buying it. One way that this works is that a person says, "I am mad as hell, and Glenn Beck is mad as hell, so Glenn Beck must be my friend."

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So who's surprised?

Or perhaps I should say, why are you surprised? Did you think people who go to snake handling churches voted for Democrats? Did you think they were logical? Did you think KKK members are logical? A state trooper in Indiana was given the job of infiltrating the KKK and reported back "these are the most ignorant people I've ever associated with". He became a local Klan leader and left while never having been exposed.

There is some weird impression in the liberal side of America that somehow the backwards parts of the country contain the salt of the earth who work to better their neighbors. Hogwash! I was raised among these people, and they are mostly willfully ignorant, they refuse all information that goes against their prejudices. Some are intelligent, but don't confuse intelligence and ignorance, they don't mean the same thing at all.

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Who are they talking about?

This quote:

Rather, they believe his policies are purposely designed to fail. When they look at the totality of his agenda, they see a deliberate effort to drive our country so deep into debt, to make the majority of Americans so dependent on the government, and to strip away so many basic constitutional rights that we are too weak to fight back and have to accept whatever solution he proposes.

sounds like they are talking about Bush. This has been the right-wing agenda - to run the government so badly that people hate it. Unfortunately the RW populous doesn't understand that government is our last hope of fighting the corporatocracy.

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The problem here is that the

The problem here is that the Republican base does not realize that Obama is a front man for an agenda that is beyond a narrow socialist ideology. This renders them powerless to effect change, as when their favored Republican candidate gets elected, they will be blind to the ways in which that person enacts nearly the exact same policies. There is a "secret agenda", but is it exactly a socialist one? Their excessive focus on ideological association- about which even on that they are often unclear about in their own minds- and their association of power with success,makes them unwitting pawns in a dialectical process.

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Where's the objectivity?

"A new focus group study from the Democratic-friendly polling firm of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research . . . " First & foremost, how can you honestly think this report is really reflective, given it is openly announced it comes from a Liberal-leaning service - I'd have to see the list of interview questions & understand the context they were couched in before I can put any stock in this kind of report. It's a tiny sample in one city of the country & being paraded as the reflection of the conservative population of the country. All this does is to further stoke the fires of difference & contention & paint one side of the discussion in a bad light. From the comments so far, most of you are willing to buy into it because it would seem you want it to be true.

What happened to compromise & working out solutions together? We are becoming an increasingly diverse nation to the degree that it's laughable to say "the average American", unless you qualify that statement by encompassing a smaller geography to make that assessment to which the characteristics of said average American are actually a commonality.

If the media would do its job as a watchdog of the government, instead of a profit-driven group of corporate entities & get rid of the pundits & commentators, we might actually get an objective view, rather than what FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, & etc. are spewing in an effort to capture ratings rather than inform the populace of what we need to know about the people we send to Washington to oversee our security, services & tax money. But instead we get a media that helps in driving the divisiveness we run into in everyday life, contributing to this 'win at all costs' & 'one part must win-the other must lose' situation we find ourselves in.

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