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ABC, Fox Limit NH Debate
ABC and Fox are limiting the New Hampshire primary vote by denying candidates they deem non-competitive the right to participate in the last big debate here after the Iowa caucuses.
The way things stand now, Democrats Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel won't be allowed to participate in the Saturday, January 5 debate sponsored by ABC News, Facebook and WMUR. On the Republican side, Duncan Hunter has been kicked out.
Republicans Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter are to be excluded from a Sunday, January 6 Fox News GOP forum as well.
But Fred Thompson, who is nowhere in the New Hampshire race, is to be included by Fox.
ABC and WMUR have set the following criteria for getting into their Saturday, January 5 debate to be held in Manchester, according to this morning's Manchester Union Leader:
- Place in the top four in the January 3 Iowa caucuses
- Poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four reputable random sample New Hampshire telephone surveys sponsored by an established news organization and conducted and released by 9 a.m. on Friday, January 4.
- Poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four reputable random sample national telephone surveys sponsored by an established news organization and conducted and released on or before 9 a.m. Friday, January 4.
WMUR News Director Andrew Vrees told the Union Leader, "Right now, Dodd has a half of a percent in our most recent poll. That's two in 512 telling us they'd vote for Chris Dodd. Gravel has zero and Dennis Kucinich has 2 percent, and we're rounding up."
"Historically," said Vrees, "candidates with these types of numbers a week before the primary don't fare much better on Election Day."
Republican state chairman Fergus Cullen said Fox News has invited John McCain, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee to the Sunday forum. "No one else was invited," Cullen said.
In a statement, Cullen was critical of all sponsors of the debates and the forum. "Limiting the number of candidates who are invited to participate in debates is not consistent with the tradition of the first-in-the-nation primary," he said. "The level playing field requires that all serious candidates be given an equal opportunity to participate — not just a selected few determined by the media prior to any votes being cast."
Paul spokesman Kate Rick said the Paul campaign "has called Fox a half-dozen times" and received no response. In the past Paul has said Fox is "scared of me," and that they were propagandists for the Iraq war, and not real conservatives. "We have been here in New Hampshire a fair amount. We have raised $19 million this quarter, and we're polling at 8 percent here, which is ahead of Mr. Thompson," Rick said. "We are at a loss as to what criteria we are not meeting."
Over the weekend, the Kucinich camp was scrambling, madly trying to get the candidate's polling figures up to 5 percent. Chris Collier, Kucinich spokesman, said an August poll had his candidate at 7 percent.
Comments
These developments are not a surprise. The media does what the media does.
"Over the weekend, the Kucinich camp was scrambling, madly trying to get the candidate's polling figures up to 5 percent."
I wish them the best but I don't think some candidates are as popular as their supporters want them to be.
I wish Kucinich was stomping all of the other Democratic members but . . .
Posted by: capt on 01/01/08 at 11:53 AM Respond
To not include Joe Biden in the debate would be a complete travesty. This is the candidate of whom at every debate, every candidate says "Joe is right" or "I agree with Joe." You would do better to exclude Edwards and his "evil, greedy corporations" spiel, which is getting quite old.
Posted by: Kevin on 01/01/08 at 1:11 PM Respond
"evil, greedy corporations"
That spiel never gets old for me.
I have no issue with small corporations but the mega-dollar multinationals have all but bought the country and the mountains of money they pay politicians through lobbying and outright payola IS a HUGE problem.
I think the "evil, greedy corporations" are the biggest problem and the biggest challenge for all of us in America and I wish the other candidates talked more about the issue.
Posted by: capt on 01/01/08 at 2:11 PM Respond
I owe my triumph to the Federal Government. Thanks.
Posted by: evil, greedy corporation on 01/01/08 at 5:25 PM Respond
I hope Dennis gets in only because he is unpopular with big business (like RP). Well, when Ron Paul WINS, he can invite Dennis into his cabinet.
Posted by: Robin Dicken on 01/01/08 at 7:29 PM Respond
Corporations are incorporeal entites, and as such have no actual desires.
The people running them have the usual range of emotions -- including envy, greed, love, hate -- that other Humans have, too.
Including evil, greedy government bureaucrats (you know, like the ones who actually control the apparatus of war and oppression)?
Posted by: jkp on 01/02/08 at 7:11 AM Respond
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