The wrath of Hillary will onluy hurt Hillary. She is going to get crushed in New Hampshire.

The smugness of the Obama disciples is really quite nauseating. He's the political equivalent of Boxing Day, and everybody's falling all over themselves (it's not actually "everybody," but that's what the lapdog media would have us believe) to join in the something-for-practically-nothing frenzy.

"Obama's soaring politics of hope"...otherwise known as the selling of a bill of goods.

Hillary's desperate actions go to show that "The Hillary I Know" is nothing but a facade to prop up deep mental flaws. More signs that she's not fit to serve, much less serve as president.

Thanks for setting the record straight on all these misleading attacks.
I think the only one with any merit to it is the one about the energy bill, but you can find bad votes from every candidate (and if that vote is the worst they have on Obama, he must be pretty good)

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Nicely written, David.

To this I would add her "man problem", which is that she is wildly unpopular with men of both parties. I saw a poll recently that showed that only 17% of Democrat men voters and a meager 9% of Republican men voters said that they could consider voting for Hillary.

Now it appears she has a "woman problem" too, as the Iowa caucus shows that women went to Obama's side 35% to 30% for Hillary.

Duck! Incoming from the lefty version of the Swift Boaters.

-Wexler

William,

I do not think even liberal women ever liked her. I know a web designer for Moveon.org. She told me everyone hates Hillary. If she cannot get the support from what was supposed to be her base, liberal women, and women in general, then she in finished. Has anyone contemplated that the media is what made her and the public was never on board the Hillary wagon to begin with?

One thing is for sure,the right wing does not want to take on Hillary.Obama is their choice. Because they know theirs no leaving Iraq. And without total U.N. permanent talkover.We lose,and Obama wins by playing the withdraw card on Iraq. President wanted,No experience nessasary. apply Babblebrainland.

Bill, persuaded Hillary to go have some medical tests done. A short time later the physician contacted Hillary for a follow up consultation. "I have some good news and some bad news for you," he told her. "The good news is that your PMS test is negative. You do not have PMS."
"Oh, that is good news," Hillary beamed. "I am sure Bill will be so happy to hear that. What is the bad news?" "The bad news," The doctor replied, ".. is that you are just a bitch!"

News flash: Obama is not perfect! He is a politician! He compromises on legislation! Oh my god..he must be a total fraud!

Its ridiculous to think that any candidate would not have changed their mind on legislation, EVER. For Hillary "I voted for the war before I was adamantly against the war" Clinton to criticize Obama for changing his mind on a health care proposal is incredible.

Obama is not perfect, but he so much better than Hillary!

Mr. Corn, this statement is inaccurate:

"He talked about his speech against the war, but didn't explain why he voted for $300 billion in funding for the war..."

He certainly did explain his vote to fund the war. Perhaps you should review the debate again. It wasn't even subtle, he was asked about the vote, specifically, and he explained it, saying that although the war was wrong, it would be a mistake to allow the troops to remain without being able to provide them with necessities.

When I was in J-school, we weren't allowed to simply make up "facts" and report them. They don't have the same standards at MotherJones?

Please hillary! don't wreck a good thing. GO OBAMA!!!!

Obama got his words twisted in a speech on Sunday and instead of shouting his usual mantra of the "The time for change has come." He let all know that the time to 'come' has changed. Finally, information from this man which is useful to know.

Hillary's attacks make her sound shrill and brittle and the voters will reject her. If she doesn't attack she's got nothing and the voters will reject her. Talk about a rock and a hard place. She's done!

I have a solution...VOTE FOR EDWARDS!

Honestly, I'm flabbergasted.

The very same people who would nickpick every single thing Hillary does or says, are not willing to take a close look at this man's obvious record of inexperience where it counts, politically.

And we will once again elect a "personality."

I will not vote for Obama. I'll simply either write in my choice or stay home. I'm leaning towards staying home. Our vote doesn't matter much anyway.

The media and pundits elect presidents these days.

"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."

~Theodore Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)

I am a 58-year-old Independent from North Carolina who will join his spouse and his son in voting for Obama and will attend his inauguration if he, in fact, wins the election. I voted for Bill --- twice --- but Hillary is not Bill. Far from it. We desparately need change, not more of the same.

I'm not sure everyone is on board with Obama or Clinton. I know I'm not sure about either. As an African American, I resent those who assume that I will vote for Obama because he's Black. I have yet to find anything in his speeches that resonates. I can also say Hillary is a big disappointment to me. I think if she wins the nomination, the Republican nominee will be the next President.

So, for my part if my home state of California held their primary today, I'd probably vote for Edwards. I find him much more likable and he's a known entity, having heard him speak during his VP run.

The level of sexism in so many of these comments surprises and disappoints me. I have never seen so many "liberal" or "independent" minded folks take such hatred-focused aim at a cadidate - even to the point of posting jokes about PMS? Come on! Would you really post a joke about Obama on Viagra or crankiness due to not getting to watch a football game? Hardly.
Within the same email people refer to Obama by his last name and HIllary by her first, as if personifyng her on some personal level - a level that NONE of us knows. I would like just once to have Clinton's words analyzed within a pure political strategist way, and not behind some veil of her being this angry female out to get people - where do you come up with this? It is so disappointing to have an independent thinking community of Mother Jones readers fall into such sexist stereotypes.

I despise dirty politics and what I see and hear in Clinton's new campaign strategy against her main opponents is too reminiscent of "the swift boaters' dirty tactics and has convinced me that she is completely out of the picture for my vote for President.

It would appear that here is another "visionary" that has hopped on the Barack Bandwagon. Obama talks hypothetically...we've heard the "pie in the sky" too often and too recently.
Hillary is a BIG change.

Once again we see attacks leveled on Hilary because she is a woman. Few, if any of the accusations made thus far: "shrill and "brittle",
"desperate actions" and "you are just a bitch!" would ever be used to describe a male candidate. It's a pity that even liberal voters don't recognize their own bias toward a woman being elected to the most powerful leadership post in the free world. Obama will be crucified by the Right; already he is tagged a "Radical Muslim"; they will scream this in every campaign ad just before the election to scare the pants off those wishy-washy Independents, now so beholden to his campaign and watch them go back to their Republican base. Grow up and get wise.

I hope the two corporate candidates both battle it out with each other. They both want to leave the troops in Iraq until the bitter end, both don't have a real sound policy on health care and both don't really want to help the working class by trying to protect the trade policy of our country w/ NAFTA and CAFTA.

So when the dust settles American's will really have a choice in John Edwards.

Talk about sexism!!!! You would NEVER get away with mentioning anything about black or male. Imagine !
This country hasn't progressed to the point that Israel did in the 1950s with Golda Meier.

The reason Hillary has a problem is that she's a 'fence straddler"...She doesn't take a strong stand on anything for fear that it will take away from her votes.Progressive Democrats want strong stands on important issues like Iraq, Iran, FISA, the environment and other issues she backs bush on. I hope she learns the hard way...
GO OBAMA....

These "Hillary Haters" are all over the Internet. What I find most amusing is coming from some Obama supporters that goes something like this--"There is no way in Hell I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton." Then when I ask if they are really Dems, many will not answer. This brings me back to the FACT that many Repubs are changing their registration and voting for Obama in an all out effort to stop Hillary from getting the Dem nomination. I have KNOWN these FACTS for many months and am trying to inform as many people as possible as to what is actually going on. Hope you Hillary supporters will pass this important information along to others.

MY candidate (Hillary) could NEVER be defeated in a fair and square contest.

There MUST some dirty work afoot, or she'd be winning.

Yeah.., right.

Ask most Republicans and they'll tell you they PRAY Hillary ends up being the nominee, because they know how many Republicans and independents will turn out to vote against her, while a lot of Democrats will stay at home, because the negative perception of the woman really IS that widespread. That's why, as you say lylepink, they're all over the internet.

Enough of dynasties.
If the Obama balloon bursts, so be it.
The Clintons delivered us to NAFTA and the globalization schemes that remain as delusional as soviet style communism.
NAFTA was supposed to solve the illegal alien border crossings and solve Mexico's insufferable poverty it did neither.

In a popularity contest between Clinton, the most maligned political woman of our generation, and Oprah, a media that insists on only putting a good light on Obama and the left, like this blog, who continues to do the same, Clinton has a problem.

Those were legitimate questions which you mitigated with a quick dismissal by kicking Hillary. But the hypocrisy is at its best when you go over Hillary's words, actions, both past and any present she proposes, with a fine tooth comb and a pocket full of hate.

Obama is not uniting this country. I am but one of two on this short list of 15 or 16 posters (at the time) who feel this way. No! Not because you support Obama, but because the scrutiny you fail to give him now stands to bury him against a very highly likely McCain. And that is what is at risk.

And I feel as strongly against Obama as I did about Bush. For no other reason than he has failed to convinced me with facts (and not hope) that he will indeed be able to live up to the demands this particular presidency poses.

Because a cult of personality counts on his personality, not facts to win the day. He doesn't have to explain anything to anyone. His personality is all he has to put forward. The substance is secondary. He can be arrogant, rude or wrong but he's still the hero! Sound familiar? Man, this is crazy!

Does this not worry you? That just because he can get you on your feet doesn't mean he his fast on his?

He gives the best stump speech I have heard in a long time. But when it comes to details and one on one, I can't imagine this man negotiating with anyone! He's a born lecturer -- speaker, and that does not a negotiator make.

I can more see Edwards or Clinton having that capacity, based on their quick thinking and ability to express an idea effectively.

Finally, I find it completely contradictory to say experience doesn't count for Obama but Hillary's extensive experience is bad. As illogical as bashing Hillary for using the "woman" card (my personal favorite) while Obama stands up and preaches he is the agent of change because he is the first black candidate with a chance.

I'm sorry? Who is playing the race card? And it is working like a charm. The only way you can explain that a man who has no experience and can't debate himself out of a paper bag ("all he has to do in NH is not blow it! Yay! He did it! He met our low standards!) is a better candidate for the job than a white guy with a great plan and a woman with an even better plan AND yes! 35 years of experience on the job. You may not agree with the experience. You may not want to qualify it as do, but that she has experience is not debatable.

We are being sold. Just like we are always sold. Only this time, the criminals are letting YOU THINK that you are voting for your own interests. The Republicans are packing the rallies to help build that momentum.

If you don't agree with me, why not take Mr. Obama's words then? When Hillary said they thought she was the strongest opponent to the Republicans, Mr. Obama (in his usual snide but ill thought way) responded that perhaps the Republicans were doing that because they thought she was weak.

Yes, Mr. Obama. Perhaps the Republicans are talking about you because they feel that YOU will be easier to beat. I agree.

Yesterday, I saw Wolf talking to someone reporting from a Obama rally.

They went on and on and on about how big the crowd was and how this shows the enthusiasm ... until, it appears someone suggested to Wolf it might be a ethical to disclose that the majority of those at the rally had come from neighboring states and were Republicans.

Yes, the Republicans ALL love him? Really?

Maybe I've been around too long but when I smell a dead fish, I'm near the garbage. don't tell anyone who to vote for. But I am going to speak up about what I see is a coronation and the very real risk we are running by putting this man up without talking about these things before the Republicans do. They won't be nearly as gracious as Hillary has been.

G'nite Gracie!

I would appreciate having some details on the Wolfson charge that Obama has changed his positions on health care, gun control, and minimum sentences for persons convicted of crimes.
If Obama did change his position on any of these, in what form did he do so?
Has he proven willing to stand up to special interests such as oil, coal, insurance, pharmaceutical lobbies and others? What will he do about campaign finance and other corruptions?
Has he called for proper taxation of hedge fund zillionaires? Reform of off-shore tax shelter cheats?
thank you.

Hillary is just another flavor of the "old boys club", a consummate politician who can speak for 20 minutes and say nothing of any real merit or commitment. She willfully and unfortunately, quite ably, dodges questions in time-honored fashion. She epitomizes the corporate politician. So if you want more of the same, vote for her. But if you truly want change, there are better choices.

Hillary is just another flavor of the "old boys club", a consummate politician who can speak for 20 minutes and say nothing of any real merit or commitment. She willfully and unfortunately, quite ably, dodges questions in time-honored fashion. She epitomizes the corporate politician. So if you want more of the same, vote for her. But if you truly want change, there are better choices.

I don't see how it isn't hypocrisy to go on and on about "change" and being different then the existing political complex and then acting in a way that "represented a conventional political decision (help your state)". That's a pretty convenient definition of "change" Obama supporters. Honestly, I am sick of HEARING about change and being PROMISED change which at this point is just the buzzword of the moment for politics and it seems the end all be all of qualification for some people's vote. I agree with David Corn - Obama is "selling vision" I just don't think he'll DELIVER when it comes down to it. Also as a woman, I don't know why you wouldn't support the candidate who without a doubt supports a woman's right to choose without any of the conscientious religious disclaimers. P.S. Edwards is virtually a carbon copy of Obama.

I hadn't intended to vote for Hillary, but neither will I vote for Obama. All I've heard from him is vague rhetoric like: change - a better tomorrow, etc. - but no specifics, and I have noted his voting record is very spotty. I just don't think he's ready to lead a country like ours.

I certainly hope HRC will be hoist by her own petard.

WAKE UP AMERICA.OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT EMPTY TALK.IN THE DEBATES HE CANT EVEN PUT A MEANING SENTENCE TOGETHER.HE WILL BE A DISGRACE TO OUR COUNTRY.WAKE UP PEOPLE DONT BE FOOLED BY EMPTY WORDS.

I think Bill Richardson said it all when he said that he had been at hostage negotiations that were more civil,( at the Manchester Debate).
If you are going to vote responsibly and not just bet on a horse race, do yourself, (and the rest of the world) a favor and look into the only candidate with executive and major diplomatic experience. The only candidate who has a two page "greatest hits list", like raising teacher pay, balancing budgets, insuring all children under 12, and improving environmental quality significantly in his state and so on. Bill Richardson has the best ratings from Conservation International and the Sierra Club. He puts human rights first, and has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. His appointment as UN Ambassador was passed by 100 US Senators, that's one hundred US Senators from both sides of the aisle. There's nothing wrong with any of the Democratic candidates this year, but isn't it time we had someone who knows what he's doing?

babba wawa....i applaude you and agree on everything you wrote obambi is an empty suite and PLAYING THE RACE CARD.MAY GOD HELP US TO GET RID OF HIM.THIS IS INSANE HE CANT EVEN PUT A MEANINGFUL SENTENCE TOGETHER.

I agree that the Republican conservatives would LOVE to see Obama be the Democratic candidate. If Obama has great plans for change, he could have shared them with the voters by now. Bush gave us nothing but rhetoric and look what terrible shape we are in now!

Clinton has the experience. She can handle the job. I'm looking forward to her getting the US back in a leadership position.

What does Obama know about washington and are we electing him or Oparah Wake up people we need someone that can do the job. The Clintons had this country running smooth and look at it now. So wake up world we need the working peoples friend the rich have enough money

Give 'em Hell Hillary!

Huckabee beliefs, which seems rather clear from the quote from his book, seems to be that of those who deny the reality that someone can be homosexual but only behaving as one. His appearance on Meet the Press is just the latest example of Govenor Huckleberry's remarkable ability to shoot himself in the foot that for some reason is usually found in his mouth. He might just make it through with the Republican nomination appealing to the lunatic fringe on the right (just to show I'm not biased on this I believe there is a lunatic fringe on the left too) but if he does, he's going to scare the wits out of the average voter with his views and make a landslide possible for the Democratic nominee even if it's Hillary.

Hillary needs to look at what happened to McCain in SC in 2000 after the Bushies' "McCain Fathered a Black Child" telephone attack. He went on to play dirty and it lost him the ticket.

Will Hillary learn from this? Probably not. The politician survival instinct to fight dirty when on the skids seems to be close to the surface under her skin.

It will cost her. It IS costing her.

Thinking people know that whatever HRC might dish out will be NOTHING compared to what the Reps will do if Obama gets the nomination. Should that happen, I think he will be made to look a fool. On the other hand, should HRC get the nomination, I think she can stand up to anyone, give a shot, and take a shot. I think she has the brains and the ovaries to lead our nation.

Actually, Marlys, I think you have it backwards. Edwards has run for president before and he is saying a lot of the same things now, which would not make him a copy of Obama.

Som of beitch I want some of that thar vision stuff mama Jones, perhaps it'll fill the belly like a good home grown veggie would.

It this (Vison)high in fiber and a little substance? so when I go to bed I feel full instead of bloated? from the air I'll be sucking trying to believe this empty suit is giving me something besides bull shit.

Next time you write a fluff piece for the empty suit aim higher, air heads need more than wind passing between their ears to get excited, but then again perhaps not thats why the young and the ignorant are taken in by this empty suit with no substance

bobawanna: this is about thje best assessment of this Over-Hyped phenom I'v read yet nice job,and well written may I add.

I to concurre with your observation where Oblaba is concernced, he reminds of an air horn on tug boat blaring his message in the fog and the fools on the other ships cant see the reality that he is sinking with the help of the repukeagains and he dosen't see it.
Hes not a debator nor is he a great legislator, you cant name a single bill that HAS HIS NAME ON IT, in Illi-noise and or elsewhere.
Other people's bills yes but not his own.

We had one pres that came to the job with no background in legislating now we have another who wants to share his vision thing with us, cant eat it, nor can you decipher what it is he's articulating.

Hillary is divisive. She is not a unit-er, but a divider.
Her show of weakness in crying about the stress was an act intended to get the sympathy of older women. She will not be good for America. She is not Bill.

Hillary will be Bush Lite, nothing more. If that is what you want vote for her. I think Edwards will be better for working people.

Why do so many seem to believe that Hilary was ever anything but media hype? Some conspiracy types believe and have publicized on a PBS station that it was deliberate - TV being sponsored mostly by corporate
republicans who wanted Hilary to win the democratic nomination because she would be easier to beat. After following several sources of media, most of the debates and the caucus of Iowa, I still can't see any evidence that she is or ever was qualified (unlike her husband who was an excellent president, if a second rate husband). The only people who believe in her are the shallow minded analysts and news reporters on Fox & CNN, and of course Hilary herself who seems to possess an overly inflated ego. She is qualified enough for normal times, but after Bush has butchered this country so badly, the people want someone totally different, probably so they can forget it was their own stupidity that put Bush in office in the first place. That's why the young are voicing their opinion, loudly; they don't trust their elders anymore. Now, for the first time the media is jumping on the go Obama wagon because they have been unpleasantly shocked into seeing that people do want a different candidate than the only one they have been spoon feeding us for a year now. They are now giving Obama equal time, for the first time and ignoring Edwards as the un important one. How dumb do they- the media- think we are, or rathr how smart do they think they are? Now the liberals are backing off because they no longer see Obama as the underdog and they wouldn't dream of taking the time to read his book. If they did, they'd know what he stands for. I am so sick of everyone but him bringing up the racial issue. That has no more to do with anything than Hilary's being female.
Hilary's sniping is only important in that it connotates a lack of ethical behavior, another thing the American people are sick of.
She's going to do herself in unless she changes radically, which of course she will - maybe even enough to be the media darling again, still hypocrisy. Maybe Obama is too good to be true and Edwards too real to be good for us, but I trust we will be able to decide for ourselves because the American people are making up their own mind and ignoring the media crap - It's the most encouraging and hopeful thing I've seen for 7 years.

To Vita and Wendy's claim that criticisms against Hilary (as opposed to Bill Clinton, which is why we, as well as her campaign, refers to her as Hilary) are sexist is off the mark. Gross sexism can be automatically discounted by the very fact that she is a major contender. Hilary can be labeled as "shrill" just as Gravel can be labeled as "gruff". It is a description of vocal tonal quality based on generally recognized gender differences. Can we get to the real issues?

Hear! Hear! I agree. What a bunch of angry sexists you all are. No matter how she plays it, Hillay Clinton will be vulnerable to your sexist attacks - she's not likable enough, friendly enough, attractive enough, soft-edged enough, inspiring and eloquent enough. If she were to bubble and effuse, she would be too feminine, too lightweight, too easily moved by the moment. No one says that she is damn smart, knowledgeable, experienced, dedicated. If she comes out showing she is just as tough as the rest of the GUYS, blue suit and all, you all jump on her for being negative and attacking her opponents. No she isn't Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was sexy, charismatic, a smooth talking male. And then, today, Hillary "got emotional." Those were the words of the press - NY Times and NPR, no less. Not - 'she spoke from the heart, it was a rare moment of intimacy, she revealed the depth of her commitment.' No, she "got emotional."

Which is it?

In contrast, consider the youth at barelypolitical.com, those young sexy kittens who tout the Obama Girl videos where sexy reins. Is this the female the youth of America can relate to? Is this what we need to elect Obama? We are finally getting out the youth vote - so what if all they are thinking about is their ipods and MTV. I don't see them marching in the streets to end the Iraq War. They aren't boycotting grapes to fight for the rights of migrant workers. They don't event know what ERA stands for. Yes, Hillary Clinton is old school - the same school that marched against the Vietnam War, fought for the Right to Choose, believed in the importance of legislation to protect civil rights. So maybe she isn't the right candidate, but have the honesty to say why. I guess it's uncool to say "sexist" now - even in Mother Jones! The thing is, I am moved by Obama, and I want him to be and do all those things he talks about so eloquently. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt even though there is little substance in his speeches. And you know why? Because I am still of the old school that Hillary Clinton comes from - I actually believe words can bring about change.I am ready to march in the streets to make that change happen. I'm just not sure Obama's girls have the slightest idea what that means.

Cory, why the hate against the Black Man?

If these comments are an example I don't see how anyone can say that Obama will bring the people together. It seems that the only people he is bringing together is his mean supporters and the mean right-wingers who are rooting fior him to beat HRC, and maybe even voting for him to beat her. I have listened to all of the debates and to some of the speeches and I see Obama attacking Clinton as much as the other way around. The choice should be who do you believe has shown the ability to accomplish what you would like to be accomplished. I personally am torn between both parties, if I could only paste part of one candidate to another I might find someone who agrees with me on what the country needs.

ChooChooChain - I appreciate your opinion regarding Hillary, but I have one major problem with her. She has refused to advocate for her NY constituents who are demanding a legitimate investigation of 9-11. The press will not show or discuss building 7, which appears to have been demolished at approximately 5:20 p.m. on 9-11 (problem - it takes weeks to wire a building). Exceptionally well-qualified architects, engineers, and scientists have LEGITIMATE questions. The NIST "investigation" scope included only time from plane impact to the INITIATION of collapse (i.e. they did not even evaluate global collapses). Those towers fell at near free-fall speed through the path of MOST resistance. This violates basic laws of physics. For solid technical architectural analysis, see http://www.ae911truth.org/announce/

This is THE reason Hillary is NOT ACCEPTABLE. There is a ballot initiative in NYC for a new investigation (since their Senator refuses to get answers to excellent technical questions for them).

When Mrs. Clinton speaks of her superior experience during the debates, she is in the presence of Gov. Richardson whose resume, as he claims, is chocked full of experience. Governor, Secretary of Energy, Ambassador etc.
Why don't voters who claim experience is prerequisite, embrace him en masse?
Dare I suggest that a great many of us are tired of uninspiring party hacks?

You want campaign promises from Mr Obama about his policies? When politicians commit to specifics, they promise to improve education, create jobs,and cut taxes. It all sounds good.
In my fortysome years of voting, I have heard it all before. I have never seen results however.
I would prefer Obama didn't make the standard promises. I would prefer to see if the gifts of charisma and inspiration helps lead US to demand the changes WE want. To build coalitions that bring change rather than gridlock.
I like what he is offering.

A good leader shouldn't pretend he/she has all the solutions. Even if he/she did, our system was designed to build consensus and compromise.

Obama has coalition building skills and the kind of personality that pulls people together.

All politicians are not created equal.

We are fearful, and bitterly polarized. Obama makes me feel like I can take the country back and make it function for everyone.

maryMomgret:

Good points. I agree with you. The most laughable thing to me is we keep getting told how smart people who run these campaigns are and how smart the Clintons are. I can only laugh. All of these people including Hillary look as dumb as rocks.

I am a Ronald Reagan Republican. I view Obama as the Democrats version of a Ronald Reagan. The amazing thing is, I like him and am not even supposed to.

Ames, do you still view Reagan as an unassailable president? He did let AIDS become a national epidemic because in his mind it was a queer disease, ignoring it for years after the science community and plain as day, unfolding facts had disproved this. Of course, there are others things. But I hope that Obama would care more about our society at large than that. Just thought your comparison was interesting and was trying to understand it better.

Paul, Reagan did not let AIDS become an epidemic, it was the homosexuals who used bad judgment. Take responsibility.

Hey Lib's

She is such a Tramp..:-) You have NO idea how GOOD it feels for us to watch her and her C*M stained hubby to go down in flames..:-) Now maybe the two of them can crawl back into there holes in little rock, and watch REAL men do Political battle....

HAHAHAHAHAH

BIll...

Reagan could have chosen to end the homophobic rhetoric that flowed from so many in his administration. Dr. C. Everett Koop, Reagan's surgeon general, has said that because of "intradepartmental politics" he was cut out of all AIDS discussions for the first five years of the Reagan administration. The reason, he explained, was "because transmission of AIDS was understood to be primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs." The president's advisers, Koop said, "took the stand, 'They are only getting what they justly deserve.' "

How profoundly different might have been the outcome if his leadership had generated compassion rather than hostility. "In the history of the AIDS epidemic, President Reagan's legacy is one of silence," Michael Cover, former associate executive director for public affairs at Whitman-Walker Clinic, the groundbreaking AIDS health-care organization in Washington. in 2003. "It is the silence of tens of thousands who died alone and unacknowledged, stigmatized by our government under his administration."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/06/08/EDG777163F1.DTL

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Homophobic ranting is still just hate speech.

Well, spank you very much Bill for your lovely educated comment...I supppose you don't miss a beat at ignorance and tackiness, applaud!
But for the sake of a decent reply to the article at hand and not a potshot, I find that MOJO is representing the media-movenment-jump-on-the-bandwagon-because-its-quite-hip-like-that. Granted, OB is a powerhouse right about now, but I personally am not convinced he can lead a nation. I still think Hill is a bit polarised, but I am still on the fence with both for a nomination...I hope not to be disappointed with NH tonight and to see an equal outcome...if not a slight lead for Hill. Sometimes I sit and wonder who Barrack really is?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

~ H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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I hope for better than a moron. Bush has really set the bar so low almost anything will be an improvement.

HEARTS MADE OF STONE
If anyone who listens to an Obama speech and is not moved and inspired then they must be
dead and cold inside and have not one shred of humanity. Oh, wait a minute. That's a Replubican!

I'm not a youngster but I see what is good in Obama and why he is firing up the country to a new level of patriotism, decency, ethics, fair play, the list goes on, and he isn't doing it with superior oratory skills, or rather he is, but it's sincere, not manufactured and he shouldn't be faulted because he is also more intelligent and educated. That he is also likable and personable should not be held against him either. Half of the hate for Bush is for his arrogant smirk and cocky walk that announces his Hitler mentality. Being a union organizer at one time, and a protestor during Viet Nam, I should be for Edwards and I am, but being a cynic and skeptic who hates Bush and the Reoublican party for all the right reasons, I am enthused and hopeful to finally see someone who can and will do something about straightening this mess out, if it's possible, and the right mental attitude of the people who respect and yes, even love, our president (like we did the Kennedys) is going to be the factor that does it. Maybe the GOP wants Obama because they think he's beatable, I heard the same theory applied to Hillary, but if so, they've underestimated the new generation of voters who want to believe the inspiration of Obama. There's lots of us old people who do too. I wish we could have all three in the white house. Well, Obama and Edwards anyway and in that order. PS Romney is another Bush, better believe it. If you have friends who are Republican (I dropped all those types) better convince them to at least vote for McCain. Better yet, to stay home.

Thus far, I'm very disappointed in the recent turn of events. To me, Obama really knows how to deliver a message. However, the message sounds more like one you'd hear at a pep rally than anything else. No matter how great he sounds, we should remember how difficult it is to pass any kind of meaningful legislation in this country. Can he work with a Congress that seems unable to do anything? So far, even though the Democrats won the House and Senate, little has changed. How reasonable is it to think he will get us out of Iraq anytime soon? I am a Hillary supporter. I think she is bright and works very hard for those she represents, which I believe she would do if elected. However, I'm a realist and know there is little if any chance she will win. I say that for many reasons, and I think we all know them. I firmly believe the media tells the public what we are suppose to think, who we are suppose to like and ultimately who we are suppose to elect. I fear that if Obama wins, we may find what's underneath the wrapping is a big disappointment.

TOKEN AFTER ALL
Very disappointed to have just seen Bill Clinton come on and attack Obama on behalf of "his wife." I've never had anything but respect for President Clinton but I think showing his wrathful anger at his wife's opponent especially by twisting facts was a bad show and an indicater of who is really calling the shots in the Clinton household. He was unfairly ousted but he can't vicariously get the presidency back thru his wife. Her dirty tricks, and this is one of many, are what will cost her the presidency
or should we say Bill's reelection. That is, if she was ever in the running anyway. Everyone seems to have forgotten she came in third, not second. Everyone acts like it was a done deal and Obama has pulled some kind of trick out of his sleeve to cheat her out of what she rightfully deserves.
Excuse me? Let Obama tell you what he has and hasn't done. At least he doesn't lie or cover up his inadequacies or accomplishments. It seems everyone is so caught up in the media hysteria regarding their change of prediction no one is even listening to him. He has quite a good record and for a long time. That's why he was chosen as a contender by the Democratic Party quite a few years ago. No tricks, smoke or mirrors involved. Let Hillary speak up about her own merits and quit attacking others to make herself look better. It doesn't.

dy, big Bill had to come out to defend his woman. This is a southern thing that you yankee trash would not understand. In the south, whenever the little woman gets into trouble, especially if she crys, Bubba comes on the scene. You Yankees better watch out.

Bubba worked his magic, and his woman won. Take that you Yankees. Don't underestimate the southern man. With his woman in the White House, Bubba will be our man.

JOHN EDWARDS-if he was good enough for Al Gore, he is good enough for me!

You were saying something about Hillary being crushed, ROTFLMMFAO!

Well, the votes are in. Hillary did not get exactly 'crushed.'
As to the 'false charges,' I can't count how may times Barak has said, "I have opposed the war from the beginning." That has been the theme of his campaign. It is now very clear that some of his earlier statements tell a different story. It is Barak who is distorting his own record. Go Hillary! (and go Bill. It's OK to campaign for your wife.)

As a longtime progressive democrat who, if possible, would really be a democratic socialist, I was immensely relieved that Senator Clinton defeated Senator Obama last night. Why? I don't want the totally unrepresentative states of Iowa and New Hampshire having undue influence on the outcome of this critically important race. Democrats need more time to investigate each of the candidates' characters, records and issues. This is almost impossible to do if a bandwagon is plowing through the country at 100 miles an hour. Friends, this is the time to take off the rose tinted glasses of inspiring rhetoric and the blinders of race or gender prejudice and take a hard look at the candidates - what they each stand for, what they've each accomplished and what concrete platforms they are putting forth. Then we can each decide who has the character, vision and beliefs, leadership, negotiating and coalition building skills, to try and right the disastrous Bush legacy.

Ann, don't be a racist. Vote for Obama. Don't be afraid of the sexuality of the Black man.

Wow, and I thought the women of NH were smart. Voting for Hillary because she's female. ROFLMFAO

It's very obvious that Obama's detractors have not read even a single word from one of his three books, none of which were ghost written by the way.

Instead of breaking open the pages of these publications, they choose instead to succumb to the easy way out by not challenging their own preconceptions, relying on blogs and other self reinforcing sources of information.

If they need to know what his position is on health care, religion, war, negotiation, social security, immigration,etc., all they need to do is make a trip to the library if affordability is a problem.

Now we all know that congress is held in low esteem, the election process has degenerated into a generic one-size-fits-all personality contest and that one side has espoused fear and intolerance while the other offers hope and change. These words are NOT insignificant by any stretch of the imagination. The ability to translate them into policy no longer depends on the exclusive desires of a single individual, but more on the consensus of a people and a congress. One candidate believes this to be a "fairy tale" and it's really a shame.

From it's inception, this great country has been a fairy tale, a rags-to-riches, servant-to-superpower model for emerging nations. We have achieved that which was deemed impractical, sometimes impossible, to order to overcome our mistakes and prove that "fairy tales" are only a state of mind.

Today's president is one who is judged by not only his inherent ability, but one who desires to surround him/herself with equally talented individuals. If there are a lot of outstanding IOU's the choices will not necessarily be the best... and that's not a fairy tale.

We can defeat the corporate stooge, Clinton.

YES, WE CAN!

We can change the direction this country is headed.

OH, YES, WE CAN!

Clinton touts her experience--but why would we want a leader who is thoroughly versed in nepotistic plutocratic imperialism?
We wouldn't, and we don't and we can head in a different direction.

OH, YES, WE CAN!

To capt on the Mencken quote (awesome quote!):

Yeah, but didn't we just do that? (And by "we" I mean the Supreme Court.) This is one Florida Democrat who hasn't forgotten, much less forgiven, the travesty of 2000.

True equality has not been achieved in our country as we all know from reading THIS blog. Let's forget that Hillary is a woman and Obama is black for heaven's sake. Shouldn't choosing a leader of the USA be based on the qualitications of the candidates, their goals and their record. Keep racism and sexism out of it. PLEASE!

Hillary is the one that changed from supporting the war in the Middle East to not supporting the war.

I truly do not see the point of all this discussion on these two candidates. Everyone should know by now that our Republic is dead. We don't have a voting system we can trust...the best candidates, Kucinich on the Democratic side, and Ron Paul on the Republican side, have both been barred from debates, in a new level of arrogance in the censorship game. What do they have in common? Both want to return to our Constitutional values, where everyone is accountable under the same laws, and Presidents don't make up laws and "signing statements" to ignore laws he doesn't like! We don't torture people in America. So WAKE UP! You're not in the America we used to know, and when you realize this, you'll feel like you've just taken a red pill from a man named Morpheus. And if you want to know the kind of people who support Obama, like Zbigniew Brzezinski, read Z.B.'s book, "The Grand Chessboard." Or just take a look at a few choice quotes. Watch Mike Ruppert's "The Truth & Lies of 9/11" or Aaron Russo's "America:Freedom to Fascism." Americans take up 5% of the world's population, yet we use 25% of its resources!! We are a failure, and soon there will be an economic crash that will make the DustBowl years seem like the Golden Years! We have reached Peak Oil. We are now on the downside curve of resources. We've used up at least half of all the world's known oil...so resources are decreasing while population is still expanding and the need for resources is rising faster than we can even currently keep up with...We could be completely out of oil in another 40 or 50 years. That's why we're in Iraq, and that's why we're not leaving. The politicians aren't truly in control of what happens--their bankers are..or, rather, the World Bankers, th Bilderbergs and other Billionaire Bankers..The Rockfellers..These are the people who really control what goes on, because they control all the wealth. We've been given a piece of paper...and, as Jfferson said, "Paper is poverty..it is only theghost of money." See, our money is called "a fiat currency" in that, since we left The Gold Standard, is no longer backed by true capital--gold or silver. When the colapse comes, water and food will be worth more than gold, probably, but gold will maintain some value, so will silver. Put paper, our paper money? We'll be burning it for warmth. Every time a society has tried a fiat currency, that currency ends up being destroyed. America is trying to make up for its dissolving economic power by using its military might...but we saw what happened with Russia. Economic power trumps military power every time.

["Hillary is the one that changed from supporting the war in the Middle East to not supporting the war."]

When did she stop supporting the war?

As far as I know, she's continued voting for every "emergency" war funding bill that comes through the Senate, no matter HOW many unrelated earmarks are attached to PORKy's ears, and included in the bill.
You know..., the "unexpected" "EMERGENCY" spending we're told is necessary to fund a war that's been going on for over 5 years now, the cost of which should logically have been anticipated and included in the annual budget?
OH..., but THEN it would have to be included in the huge budget DEFICIT Congress and the Prezidick have been running up!
Can't let the public see THAT~!!

Hillary could get a lot more male votes if she would campaign topless. From the waist down she is kind of icky - thick ankles, etc. But from the waist up - Sch-wing! I expect that her favorable rating among men (at least non-gay men) would go up several percentage points if she would just undo her bra and let those hooters fly. I'm just sayin'...I would appreciate it - immensely!

"Everyone should know by now that our Republic is dead."

America the republic is alive and well. The idea that poor politicians, government or even poor governance somehow kills the republic is just silly and childish.

It is the people that make the country not the other way around. We are Americans and THAT only changes when you surrender to some insane ramblings of madmen and fools.

Change is a bitch and it is slow (unless a radical like Bush is in office) and we have the government our parents empowered and endure the BS we allow.

It is up to us to change the government and that takes more reasonable and courageous thinking than just a declaration of the republic as dead.

Man up and be the change you want to see.

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

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