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Is Ron Paul a Bigot?
James Kirchick has the Paulites in a fuss. The onetime Marty Peretz assistant (and, some say, political doppelganger) is now a newly-minted TNR assistant editor, and his latest effort is a revealing investigation into Ron Paul's past.
The basic story, according to Kirchick, is that a bunch of un-bylined newsletters published under Paul's name (e.g., "The Ron Paul Political Report") since the late 70s are filled with homophobic, racist, antisemitic, and otherwise distasteful invective; paranoia; conspiracy theorizing; and personal attacks.
(Mother Jones' own Josh Harkinson wrote a feature of Dr. Paul that we published online in December. Read it here.)
Dr. Paul, to his credit, quickly issued a response accepting "moral responsibility" for the newsletters but denying he wrote them:
The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts....
...This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.
When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.
So Paul denies actually writing the newsletters. "A lot of [the newsletters] he did not see," a spokesman told Kirchick. "Most of the incendiary stuff, no." That seems awfully convenient, and the argument that there are no bylines and the quotes don't "sound like" Paul sounds like wishful thinking. After all, the newsletters have names like "Paul's Freedom Report," "Ron Paul Political Report," and "The Ron Paul Survival Report," and a lot of them are written in the first person, which, as Kirchick points out, implies authorship. Kirchick's best point is that, whatever the source, the publications "seem designed to create the impression that they were written by him--and reflected his views."
I'm not sure what to think. It is of course quite possible that the newsletters were, in fact, being published without Dr. Paul's knowledge or oversight. But even that less-horrifying scenario is enough to makes me seriously question Dr. Paul's judgment. Combined with the stories about Ron Paul's connections to neo-nazis, it makes for a pretty scary narrative. Anyway, Kirchick was on MSNBC yesterday to make his case to Tucker Carlson that the Paul campaign's denials don't hold water:
Were you convinced?
Comments
First off, Kirchick's piece is riddled with basic factual errors. The major one being that he states that Ron Paul was an Army surgeon. A simple piece of research shows that Dr. Paul was an Air Force flight surgeon.
If Kirchick can't be trusted with simple empirical facts, I don't trust his conceptual thinkning.
Secondly, he made no attempt to contact Dr. Paul's campaign for any information.
Thirdly, Kirchick has made far more racist statements about Arabs and Muslims with his constant pushing of the Neocon 'Islamofascist' meme. It's the height of hypocrisy for a racist such as Kirchick to attempt to lay the label at someone else's feet.
This is a simple smear piece. Anyone that gives it credence is worse than what the smear is attempting to imply.
Ron Paul is not a bigot, but if he was a libertarian bigot is nothing to worry about, because they won't use the power of the government to enforce their bigotry. It is the Republican and Democratic bigots one needs to look out for.
Posted by: wanda gag on 01/08/08 at 2:51 PM Respond
Jamie Kirchick (author of the New Republic story):
"I don’t think Ron Paul is a homophobe; I’m just cynical and enjoy getting supporters of political candidates riled up. If you were a Giuliani guy I’d have called him a fascist."
http://gays-for-ron.blogspot.com/2008/01/jamie-kirchick-i-dont-think-ron-paul-is.html
Posted by: The Truth on 01/08/08 at 2:53 PM Respond
What a shameful pack of lies. Most of this "proof" was not written by Dr. Paul, but by a staff writer who was fired for writing such hate-filled nonsense. These claims have been disproven and even the more liberal press has already admitted as much.
Regurgitating old lies on the eve of the New Hampshire primary is an obvious smear attempt by those lacking a modicum of integrity.
As usual, the whole story is much more interesting, but not nearly as sensational. The truth loses another round.
Posted by: Artus Register on 01/08/08 at 2:53 PM Respond
This slam has been brought up repeatedly over the years. It's consistently been proven false. Those who work closely with Ron Paul have repeatedly said these sort of remarks are completely out of character and go against all of Ron Paul's personal and political principles. I don't buy it for a minute.
Posted by: Beth on 01/08/08 at 2:55 PM Respond
This is depressing. Depressing only because this story has been rewritten repeatedly. But, so many actions Ron Paul has been taken are to the contrary, obviously there is a motive since it was released ON THE DAY of the New Hampshire primary, he's spoken out on racism before, Von Mises is a Jew, and he studies flippin' Ghandi. Please.
The fact that this has been brought up again is, actually, disgusting. He really, really is a peaceful guy and it's depressing as hell that America's hope is about to be smothered by America's fascism. It's easy to harass a guy when he's the only one saying something different.
- http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/ron-paul-race-smear-erased/
- http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/ron-paul-respon.html
- http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
Posted by: Matt on 01/08/08 at 2:56 PM Respond
Only The Mentally Minuscule Take Words Out Of Context To Bend Them To Their Preconceived Paradigm.
If you refuse to look at the actions of a man for temperance of judgment then you truly castrate you mind and make it easy to arrive at wrong conclusion.
The weak minded are easily led by the bridle of emotion.
Racism is not consistent with the philosophy expressed by Ron Paul. He has rebutted these accusations from the same distortions in previous days.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that I would trust with my money and my family's safety.
I Vote For Virtue; I Vote For Ron Paul !!!
Posted by: Brad on 01/08/08 at 2:58 PM Respond
An obvious smear campaign designed to effect the election.
Posted by: Tammy on 01/08/08 at 3:01 PM Respond
Your journalism may be fearless, but if the rest of it is anything like this, then it isn't smart.
Yeah, I think you're an idiot.
Posted by: madzebra on 01/08/08 at 3:19 PM Respond
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS233377+08-Jan-2008+BW20080108
Posted by: Elizabeth on 01/08/08 at 3:25 PM Respond
Ron Paul is the black man's best friend. As a criminal defense attorney I see how the War on Drugs has damaged the inner city. The laws disproportionately imprison black men for non violent drug possession. Ron Paul will end the incarceration for what he believes is a medical problem, not a legal problem. In every way Ron Paul stands for liberty and equality. In case you guys have missed it, our next big fund raiser is on Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday in his honer as an advocate of non violent Revolution. We are not raciest or homophobes. I have always respected this publication, I now have second thoughts since you are spreading this propaganda!
Posted by: Elaine McKillop, Esq. on 01/08/08 at 3:27 PM Respond
I don't think that Ron Paul is a bigot, but as a big Ron Paul supporter, I'm really upset by the fact that he hasn't said who actually wrote the newsletter articles. I want to know who they are and if they were still connected to Ron Paul's congressional or presidential campaigns after they wrote those horrible articles. I get the feeling that Ron Paul is sacrificing transparency to protect his friends, which makes me nervous about him being president. The whole affair is a heartbreaking political hit piece, but I still want answers.
Posted by: John on 01/08/08 at 3:29 PM Respond
Ron Paul is not a bigot. Obama is a bigot. He hates White people. Vote for Senator Clinton. Say no to Islamic Law in America. Islam treats women without respect.
Posted by: Maria on 01/08/08 at 3:31 PM Respond
Lots of people that have their names on the front of newsletters and magazines don't write everything (or anything) in them. Every once in a while newsletters get out of control without their creators there and this is one of those cases. Does anyone assume that Steve Forbes writes all of Forbes magazine? Or that Oprah writes all of her namesake magazine? Paul is a civil libertarian, believing that all people are created equally and should be treated as such. These kinds of comments and smear stories are purely political.
Posted by: Tim on 01/08/08 at 3:35 PM Respond
ARLINGTON, Va.--(Business Wire)--In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul
issued the following statement:
"The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do
not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never
uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.
"In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that
we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character,
not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S.
House on April 20, 1999: 'I rise in great respect for the courage and
high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of
individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.'
"This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade.
It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the
day of the New Hampshire primary.
"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a
newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several
writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have
publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention
to what went out under my name."
Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee
Jesse Benton, 703-248-9115
Posted by: bkusz on 01/08/08 at 3:36 PM Respond
Those who support the racist war on drugs are the real racists. We have millions of young black men locked up for victimless "crimes".
Many more had their property seized, their families destroyed, and a life marred with a criminal record.
The war on drugs is unconstitutional, immoral, illegal, racist, and a waste of our taxpayer money.
Ron Paul will pardon everyone ever convicted of a federal drug crime and end this insanity. Ron Paul is not a racist.
The real racists who support the war on drugs are Clinton, McCain, Obama, Edwards, Giuliani, Huckabee, Romney, and Thompson.
Posted by: Galileo Galilei on 01/08/08 at 3:37 PM Respond
Are we really suppose to believe Ron Paul didn't write nor read any of the 20 selections from his newsletters and the stuff written on his letterhead?
The sign of a cult is when dear leader is faultless and any question of the figurehead is a smear, taken out of context or fabricated.
Go Figure.
Posted by: capt on 01/08/08 at 3:42 PM Respond
Jamie whats-his-name has no credibility and can't even get his facts straight, so his allegations, long debunked, lacking actual evidence such as copies of the offending articles, have no credibiluty as well. There are plenty of Dr. Paul's words and actions over his life, personal, medical, and political, that back up the fact that Dr. Paul is no racist and no bigot. Teh same cannot be said for Jamie.
Posted by: Tannim on 01/08/08 at 3:43 PM Respond
It may be done whatever you can imagine to destroy Dr. Paul's amazing campain, that it won't affect the most important part of it: the human movement that he has just created; not in the USA, but in the WORLD!
Posted by: eyes on 01/08/08 at 3:44 PM Respond
The "Paul is a racist" story was retracted by the New York Times (an unusual event in and of itself) as unsupported allegations by a white supremacist intent on damaging the Paul campaign. NYT investigated and found these claims to be false.
Posted by: USAF Vet Dan on 01/08/08 at 3:44 PM Respond
Jamie Kirchick wrote something incendiary that will get him online attention? Stunning.
Posted by: Jonathan Stein on 01/08/08 at 3:48 PM Respond
USAF,
Go look at the Pdf's yourself.
"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."
~ Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191
Posted by: capt on 01/08/08 at 3:50 PM Respond
The establishment will do anything to protect itself. How many times do we need to go over these "Newletters"? Thye have been investigated several times, yet they still get thrown out there in the same newscycle as the NH Primaries. Ask the man who was somomized by a broomstick under Rudy's tenure in NYC aboput racism, before trotting this old horse out again.
Posted by: Dave on 01/08/08 at 3:52 PM Respond
The most AMAZING feature:
All of those darned Ron Paul detractors were planning this since the mid 1980's.
That makes sense.
Posted by: capt on 01/08/08 at 3:52 PM Respond
In addition to the other problems with the article mentioned above, here are a few more:
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007378.html
Perhaps someone can leave a comment there with what we knew in 1990.
Posted by:
NoMoreBlatherDotCom
on 01/08/08 at 4:01 PM Respond
From Thomas di Lorenzo: "Well, I was at that secession conference and presented a paper there. It was sponsored by the Mises Institute, which has nothing to do with Confederates, neo or otherwise, as anyone who surveyed the Institute's programs on its web site (www.mises.org) would know. The PFY (Pimply-Faced Youth) did not bother because he is only interested in slandering Ron Paul, not in being a serious journalist. "
Even Kirchik admitted, that Ron Paul has never, ever, not even once, said anything remotely racist. He also admitted that the inflammatory newsletters were written when Paul was NOT active in politics (when he was busy attending to his medical practice).
I hope no one buys into the fallacious arguments of racism. He just isn't that kind of guy. If he were, he'd say it, because he doesn't care what anyone thinks.
Posted by: Jason on 01/08/08 at 4:03 PM Respond
We only have one chance left for liberty and then it may be to late. Under the "Patriot Act" we have imprisoned individuals without allowing them to know what crimes they have been accused of. We have tortured them and deprived them of the Writ of Habeas Corpus. We have denied them access to an attorney. They can be imprisoned until the "war" is over. This can happen to any of you if the government calls you an "enemy combatant." Can the only candidate that intends to end these practices and restore these liberties be a collectivist, that disparages individuals according to their group? How can anyone give thought to this propaganda that contradicts the principals that this honorable man has stood for alone on the the hill for twenty years with the only voice that protected our Constitution? This Revolution is not for the week or simple minded. We knew as we gathered strength that these attacks would come. We know what kind of man we picked for our leader, let us not let him face these attacks alone!
Posted by: Elaine McKillop, Esq. on 01/08/08 at 4:06 PM Respond
For the factual record however, Ron Paul has never been accused of saying a racist remark to anyone in his 20 years in Congress. There are no witnesses anywhere who have ever heard Ron Paul utter a remark that was racist in any way. He has never said a racist word in the Congressional Record nor has anyone ever recorded a racist remark from Dr. Paul.
No one in the Black Caucus in Congress has ever heard Ron Paul utter a racist remark.
For the words attributed to a 1992 newsletter, Ron Paul has apologized for these words that appeared in an issue of his newsletter, but he did not write them. He particularly regrets a remark made about Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, who Ron Paul very much liked and admired. Ron Paul has never referred to Martin Luther King, Jr. in any disparaging way, and regards MLK, Jr. and Rosa Parks as heroes of his.
Ron Paul has delivered babies to black families, hispanic families, illegal immigrants, and all people. He even did so at no charge for poorer black, hispanic, white and illegal immigrants.
No black person has ever made the claim Dr. Paul was ever unkind or racist in any way, and this man has led a very public life from 1974 to 2008, 31 years!
If you have watched Dr. Paul, you know he has never adhered to any racist beliefs, actions, words or statements, and no one has ever heard him utter anything like a racist remark.
After 31 years, if no one can say they heard it, or videotaped it, or were victim of it, then it doesn't exist. The "racist" label cannot apply.
Not only is Dr. Paul no racist, but quite the contrary, he is truly the presidential candidate that cares most deeply about African-Americans, moreso than any other candidate, without question.
Currently there are 600,000 African-Americans in US jails and prisons for crimes under the draconian drug laws, laws that Dr. Paul has always opposed, voted against and condemns today in his Presidential bid. Dr. Paul is well aware in his television speeches that African-Americans are being punished and targeted in the federal drug war.
Dr. Paul would pardon all non-violent drug offenders, release them from prison, restore their voting rights, and stop jailing any further African-Americans for their lifestyle. Over an 8 year Presidency, Ron Paul would save up to 4 million African-Americans from the awful fate that awaits hundreds of thousands of African-Americans each year!
Consider not just four million black men and women spared excruciating jail sentences for their non-violent association with drugs, but their family members, an additional 15 – 20 million African-Americans, would not have their families torn asunder by these pernicious and unconstitutional drug laws that act as a toxic combination of the Jim Crow laws of the old south melded with the Inquisition and the witch-burnings.
Ron Paul will keep black families together by ending Prohibition and the federal war on drugs. Ron Paul as President will liberate and emancipate more African-Americans than even Lincoln did in 1863, in a way that Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, John McCain, and all the others cannot and will not.
Posted by: Marc Scott Emery on 01/08/08 at 4:10 PM Respond
http://www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/
Posted by: eyes on 01/08/08 at 4:16 PM Respond
Dave Weigel at Reason has an interview with Paul from a couple of hours ago on the TNR hit piece:
Ron Paul: All it is--it's old stuff. It's all been rehashed. It's all political stuff.
reason: Why don't you release all the old letters?
Paul: I don't even have copies of them, because it's ancient history.
reason: Do you stand by what appears in the letters? Did you write these...?
Paul: No. I've discussed all of that in the past. It's just old news.
reason: Did the New Republic talk to you before they ran it?
Paul: No, I never talked to them.
reason: What do you think of Martin Luther King?
Paul: Martin Luther King is one of my heroes because he believed in nonviolence and that's a libertarian principle. Rosa Parks is the same way. Gandhi, I admire. Because they're willing to take on the government, they were willing to take on bad laws. So I believe in civil disobedience if you understand the consequences. Martin Luther King was a great person because he did that and he changed America for the better because of that.
reason: You didn't write the derogatory things about him in the letter?
Paul: No.
Posted by: John on 01/08/08 at 4:24 PM Respond
(Sorry for the double post. I wanted to say something and was using my mothers computer) The so called letters from 88 to 92 were written when Ron Paul was not in office. Around that time Ross Perot was running for president and I was involved in his groups. I spent time in Texas and heard of Dr. Paul and no one that ever knew him ever accused him of being a racist or bigot. He has more black supporters then any Republican. This is nothing more then Propaganda!
Posted by: Kerry Kolsch on 01/08/08 at 4:25 PM Respond
"[Paul] speaks in code. He is a transmitter. He'll say certain things that don't appear overtly racist, but these communities know exectly what he's talking about." - Kirchick
Who's he conspiricay theorist?
Posted by: rhys on 01/08/08 at 4:28 PM Respond
Thanks Kirchick, for all the free Ron Paul press, and say bye bye to whatever press career you had. Maybe now you are finally exposed to being a neoconservative agent of Rudy Guliani's smear wing.
Posted by: Rick Cain on 01/08/08 at 4:38 PM Respond
Again Ron Paul stands tall....I am absolutely appalled at the lengths that network media and news outlets will go to in order to hurt this guy.
By God I hope that America is ready when the votes are tallied and Ron Paul is the next president.
It will be a great day for us!
BTW Ron--Everyone here in Colorado is pullin for ya! We dont want anymore liars and murdering treasonous scum in our midst anymore.
I can comfortably represent the views of over a hundred Coloradans who are with you all the way baby!
Posted by: RTMAN on 01/08/08 at 4:54 PM Respond
Does Jamie Kirchick do this to all the current candidates?
...or does he just have it in for Ron Paul?
The guy(Kirchick) trips over himself repeatedly. Almost giddy with his 5 minutes of fame.
...maybe he is secretly a Ron Paul supporter that has discovered a way to get Faux news to utter the name Ron Paul.
I wonder how many Faux employees are Ron Paul supporters? ...and how often they cringe when ordered to "cover up" any Ron Paul news.
Posted by: deralaand on 01/08/08 at 5:16 PM Respond
Ron Paul supporters, be of stern stuff - of course, they will smear Dr. Paul with such charges - a conservative like Dr. Paul attracts adherents of all stripes and some of them will be racists.
Ron Paul is an adherent of Austrian economics; his economic gurus are Jewish. He clearly states that he believes that people should be viewed as individuals and not as a member of groups based on superficial physical characteristics. He has been very clear on this.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you...
Posted by: Dan Hansen on 01/08/08 at 6:45 PM Respond
Why does the MoJo bloggers fear Ron Paul? He does not have a chance to win.
Posted by: George on 01/08/08 at 7:36 PM Respond
When you run for office, be prepared that you will be held accountable for your statement that Dr Paul is a Racist, a Homophobe, and Antisemite. Hope you can back it in a debate with him. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes debating him on those issues.Having worked for an Israeli company (Feuchtwanger Industries), I know firsthand that there is more than a grain of truth in those quotes.
Posted by: Buddy Hinton Sturmgewehr on 01/08/08 at 9:36 PM Respond
I get tired of dealing with the same Paultard talking points over and over again, so I created a FAQ that deals with the most frequent denials regarding Ron Paul and his newsletter:
http://ronpaulsurvivalreport.blogspot.com/2007/12/faq-ron-paul-and-his-racist-newsletter.html
Posted by: Ron Lawl on 01/08/08 at 11:18 PM Respond
Ron Paul, as I have heard him speak on this matter, says that he believes that every person should be judged individually and on their own merit, not as part of a group, i.e. race, religion, etc. This view doesn't coincide with the label racist or bigot. Perhaps this concept is too large for some to grasp, given the way this country has put each of us in a group based on our sexual orientation, our sex, our age, our color, our religion, our political beliefs and income levels. So sad for America.
Posted by: Roberta Dyer on 01/09/08 at 3:27 AM Respond
In this video, Kirchik comes off as an arrogant young punk. Give him another 20 years to mellow out and see that life isn't as simple as he thinks.
No way do I believe Ron Paul is a racist. And I absolutely believe Ron Paul will defend the 1st Amendment, no matter how much he disagrees with the content of what someone is saying.
Posted by: Jeff Winchell on 01/09/08 at 4:44 AM Respond
"An obvious smear campaign designed to effect the election"
For something to be a smear it has to be untrue.
There's a reason that people who monitor extreme-right, racist and conspiracy theorist groups have noted everyone they monitor is behind Ron Paul.
There's a reason David Duke supports his candidacy and they have "get out the vote" calls for him on StormFront.
There's a reason racist groups have been throwing dinners in his honour for years.
Do you think that reason is they all predicted the future and wanted to provide support for the claims of 1 writer in 2008 ?
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/search?q=ron+paul
Posted by: Kilo on 01/09/08 at 5:09 AM Respond
"our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin."
The Ron Paul Political Report 1992
Just another quote (about African Americans) from the newsletter his friends put out under his name for several decades, from which the content comes as complete surprise as does his coincidental popularity with white supremacists.
Try naming a 2nd person you would let claim the same thing. A writer who would let their friends ghostwrite under their name, for decades, without being aware of the content, let alone approve of it. Just 1.
Posted by: Kilo on 01/09/08 at 5:21 AM Respond
"Well, I was at that secession conference and presented a paper there. It was sponsored by the Mises Institute, which has nothing to do with Confederates, neo or otherwise, as anyone who surveyed the Institute's programs on its web site (www.mises.org) would know."
And I guess when Ron Paul writes for the neo-confederate Dixie Daily News it's also completely unrelated to their neo-confederate slant too.
You guys should get together and publish your own newsletter: "101 excuses for why you weren't a racist for attending a Klan rally".
I'm presuming that lame, laughable excuses can be enjoyed by all and not just Ron.
Posted by: Kilo on 01/09/08 at 5:31 AM Respond
"101 excuses for why you weren't a racist for attending a Klan rally"
HA! Too effin funny.
(possible excuse)
The neo-nazis have the best
food. . . .
Tee hee!
Posted by: capt on 01/09/08 at 5:37 AM Respond
Of course the Ron Paulbots will continue to support him after this but does this have the potential to damn him in some of the few places they haven't taken over yet like fittobepres.com and others like that?
Posted by: Paul on 01/09/08 at 6:00 AM Respond
James Kweerdick is obviously a plant who's been paid to make up this crap. "he is a transmitter who talks in code?" are you f*cking kidding me? How can anyone take this crap seriously?
Posted by: Ron on 01/09/08 at 6:50 AM Respond
Wanda---you said that SO well!...it's the same reason I don't worry about little things I don't agree with Ron Paul, because he WOULDN'T use his power as President to force his personal beliefs on us UNconstitutionally (and, as you bring up, it is why people SHOULD be wary of personal beliefs of those who do NOT uphold the Constitution). THANK YOU, I've not heard this aspect off "what Paul thinks" written about nearly enough.
Posted by: Sara DiNicola on 01/09/08 at 7:57 AM Respond
Dave Neiwert at the Orcinus blog has had the best analysis on Ron Paul and the Far Right. His book on the militia movement was excellent.
BTW, when is Mother Jones going to publish a piece on how anemic the "anti-war movement" is...esp. since the Stalinoids at ANSWER and the CPUSA leftovers at UfPJ are the two main coalitions organizing demonstrations.
Posted by: Michael Pugliese on 01/09/08 at 7:59 AM Respond
Thank you so much for finding that out and sharing with us. It's always soothing to know there's some more sane people out there.
Posted by: Sara DiNicola on 01/09/08 at 8:06 AM Respond
Very good point, but what do you think of the second person's comment: "Ron Paul is not a bigot, but if he was a libertarian bigot is nothing to worry about, because they won't use the power of the government to enforce their bigotry."?
Posted by: Sara DiNicola on 01/09/08 at 8:11 AM Respond
BRAVO!
Posted by: Sara DiNicola on 01/09/08 at 8:13 AM Respond
I meant: "BRAVO to Eyes".
(I thought responding directly to Eyes comment would show I was answering that: "It may be done whatever you can imagine to destroy Dr. Paul's amazing campain, that it won't affect the most important part of it: the human movement that he has just created; not in the USA, but in the WORLD!"
Posted by: Sara DiNicola on 01/09/08 at 8:16 AM Respond
Naderite, radical leftist writer for Counterpunch, bloviates for Ron Paul,
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/the-end-of-ron-paul/
Joshua Frank is co-editor of Dissident Voice and author of Left Out! How Liberals Helped Reelect George W. Bush (Common Courage Press, 2005), and along with Jeffrey St. Clair, the editor of the forthcoming Red State Rebels, to be published by AK Press in March 2008. Read other articles by Joshua, or visit Joshua's website.
Posted by: Michael Pugliese on 01/09/08 at 8:32 AM Respond
I have 2 questions for TNR.
1.Do the idiots at TNR (“Baghdad Diaries”) have any proof that Dr. Paul only delivered white babies?
2.Do the morons at TNR have any proof that Dr. Paul only checked for cervical cancer, on white women?
Posted by: TTexas on 01/09/08 at 8:50 AM Respond
10 years ago the word 'libertarian' was never even seen in any newspaper or magazine article in America. Now the word is common lexicon throughout the states and the world thanks to mainstream publications and propagandist blips on the journalistic radar like Mother Jones.
Posted by: Lysander Spooner on 01/09/08 at 8:57 AM Respond
I used to have an incredible amount of respect for Mother Jones. Now that has gone out the window.
I cannot believe this publication would defend Ron Paul based on his far-right ideoligical stances and paint him as a messiah or martyr.
The political situation may be poor (I don't think it will be with Bush & Co. out of the way) but there are many candidates who may not be your ideal but would be much better for progressive and liberal causes than Ron Paul. Everything he sells is a con.
Posted by: josh08 on 01/09/08 at 12:24 PM Respond
"James Kweerdick is obviously a plant who's been paid to make up this crap. "he is a transmitter who talks in code?" are you f*cking kidding me? How can anyone take this crap seriously?"
I guess it helps if you've ever bothered to read anything about the topic before today.
Here's an article about Trent Lott, which covers the role of transmitters in detail...
http://www.cursor.org/stories/fascismviii.php
Posted by: Kilo on 01/09/08 at 1:34 PM Respond
I believe Dr. Paul when he says he's not a bigot because I've listened to lots of interviews, and have gotten a feel of the kind of person he is. He's a stand up guy. And he's obviously very intelligent. Bigots typically are not. Anyway, his anti-imperialist stance is enough to convince me of the kind of person he is.
Posted by: iswuzwilby on 01/09/08 at 1:38 PM Respond
The Paul cult dismisses the article. Fine, but have they read the hateful, bigoted newsletters that Ron Paul produced. Paul was the editor of the newsletter and it was issued in his name. He knew these articles were there even if he allowed someone else to write them in his name. And it wasn’t a one off accident. It went on for years.
Worse yet the author of some of the racist diatribes, Lew Rockwell, remains a Paul confidant and adviser to this day. Ron and Lew are very close politically and Lew has written lots of Paul’s material. Paul won’t name the culprit because he is still associated with the man.
The fact is that Lew Rockwell deals with a lot of racists, bigots and anti-Semites. He’s a big promoter of Hans Hermann Hoppe who is pushing a racial/nationalist agenda in Europe and who works with fringe neo-nazi groups there. Rockwell promoted the anti-Semite Joe Sobran who speaks to Holocaust revisionist conferences on topics like “For Fear of the Jews.” Rockwell promoted Samuel Francis who ran what was previously known as the White Citizen’s Council but which changed names while remaining openly racist. Rockwell works closed with the racist neo-confederates in the League of the South.
Rockwell slithers around with the worst type of bigots and Paul slithers with him.
Posted by: cultbreaker on 01/09/08 at 6:48 PM Respond
This is hysterical bullshit coming straight from a Yalie Bonesman Olin foundation CREEPAZOID Kirchick.
One of the posters here is right -- there's nothing better than a Libertarian racist because he won't impose his views on you using the government like the Democrats are going to do if Hitlery or Obamala gets the presidency.
Dr Paul is hardly a racist.
Hillary might be though since she employs one who doesn't want to drink out of 'white fountains':
Hillary Picks La Raza Leader As Campaign Co Chair
Thu, 04/12/2007
The former president of an extremist group that organized many of the country's disruptive pro illegal immigration marches and advocates the return of the American Southwest to Mexico will co-chair Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
Best known for his radical pro Chicano work during 30 years as president of the National Council of La Raza, Raul Yzaguirre is being promoted by the Clinton campaign as a prominent Hispanic activist who will lead the New York senator's outreach to Hispanic voters.
The reality is that Yzaguirre alienates many American citizens of Hispanic descent (in other words, those qualified to vote) with his so-called La Raza rhetoric, which has been repeatedly labeled racist.
The National Council of La Raza describes itself as the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, but it caters to the radical Chicano movement that says California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan.
The takeover plan is referred to as the "reconquista" of the Western U.S. and it features ethnic cleansing of Americans, Europeans, Africans and Asians once the area is taken back and converted to Aztlan.
While this may all sound a bit crazy, this organization is quite powerful (thanks to Hillary's new campaign co-chair) and annually receives millions of dollars in federal grants. Its leaders also managed to get included in congressional hearings regarding immigration. Last year alone, the National Council of La Raza received $15.2 million in federal grants and one senator gave the group an extra $4 million in earmarked American taxpayer dollars.
The organization uses the money to support projects like a Southern California elementary school with a curriculum that specializes in bashing America and promoting the Chicano movement. The school's founder and principal, a Calexico-educated activist named Marcos Aguilar, opposes racial integration and says Mexicans in the U.S. don't want to go to white schools or drink from white water fountains.
Posted by: NH on 01/09/08 at 10:54 PM Respond
Here is someone who WILL impose racist views on the country, they already have by giving your tax dollars to racists.
Hillary Picks La Raza Leader As Campaign Co Chair
Thu, 04/12/2007
The former president of an extremist group that organized many of the country's disruptive pro illegal immigration marches and advocates the return of the American Southwest to Mexico will co-chair Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
Best known for his radical pro Chicano work during 30 years as president of the National Council of La Raza, Raul Yzaguirre is being promoted by the Clinton campaign as a prominent Hispanic activist who will lead the New York senator's outreach to Hispanic voters.
The reality is that Yzaguirre alienates many American citizens of Hispanic descent (in other words, those qualified to vote) with his so-called La Raza rhetoric, which has been repeatedly labeled racist.
The National Council of La Raza describes itself as the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, but it caters to the radical Chicano movement that says California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan.
The takeover plan is referred to as the "reconquista" of the Western U.S. and it features ethnic cleansing of Americans, Europeans, Africans and Asians once the area is taken back and converted to Aztlan.
While this may all sound a bit crazy, this organization is quite powerful (thanks to Hillary's new campaign co-chair) and annually receives millions of dollars in federal grants. Its leaders also managed to get included in congressional hearings regarding immigration. Last year alone, the National Council of La Raza received $15.2 million in federal grants and one senator gave the group an extra $4 million in earmarked American taxpayer dollars.
The organization uses the money to support projects like a Southern California elementary school with a curriculum that specializes in bashing America and promoting the Chicano movement. The school's founder and principal, a Calexico-educated activist named Marcos Aguilar, opposes racial integration and says Mexicans in the U.S. don't want to go to white schools or drink from white water fountains.
Posted by: NH on 01/09/08 at 10:57 PM Respond
I've actually held these newsletters in my hands at the University of Kansas and if he didn't write them someone close to him has. They were published by Foundation for Rational Economics and Education. It says so on the newsletter. If an organization publishes something don't those who front the organization hold accountability? This went on for over two decades and was done not only in his name, but in the name of the organization that he holds dear. There comes a time when fanaticism blinds you and it turns into worship. The problem is that he has fooled a lot of smart people and they have trouble accepting that and instead of renouncing him and looking for something better they will try to right a sinking ship. Good luck!
Posted by: Nathan on 01/10/08 at 5:47 PM Respond
Ron Paul has always spoken the truth whether you like it or not. If you want a phony you'll have a bunch to choose from!
Posted by: Joe on 01/10/08 at 8:07 PM Respond
Nick Baumann, please no more of this on Ron Paul. This is just a distraction from the real candidates and debates. You just attract all the undesirables from all over the net.
Posted by: Rebecca Steinberg on 01/10/08 at 9:26 PM Respond
If you are going to go after just one candidate, I think you should state your purpose as to do so - there is much more damaging information about other people who are running as well as people who currently hold office - Guiliani and Kerick for example - he didn't know about his ongoings as well - I don't see that being thrown into the press or reported on by this punk who obviously wants his minute of fame - after all why don't we be democratic about this??
Posted by: jennifer on 01/11/08 at 7:35 AM Respond
It's obvious that the neocons and their hired media lackeys are now going all out to smear Ron Paul. They can't debate Paul on the real issues so they resort to lies and half-truths in their attempt to discredit his important Constitutionalist and anti-war message.
Posted by: Greg on 01/11/08 at 12:04 PM Respond
"They were so strong in their beliefs that there came a time when it hardly mattered what exactly those beliefs were; they all fused into a single stubbornness."
~ Louise Erdrich
Posted by: capt on 01/11/08 at 12:27 PM Respond
["They were so strong in their beliefs that there came a time when it hardly mattered what exactly those beliefs were; they all fused into a single stubbornness."]
You're Absolutely Right, capt. That's a very precise description of the Ron Paul detractors who so desperately cling to the belief that Ron Paul is a racist bigot, in spite of the fact that there has never been a publicly recorded word from the man's lips that supports that contention, in thirty years of public service and support for the Constitution.
ONE guy who IS a racist donates money to Ron Paul, and that's good enough for the anti Ron Paul wackos. That proves EVERY belief that they so Desperately Wish to be true.
Posted by: AlternateRealityCheck on 01/11/08 at 6:32 PM Respond
"Remember that what you believe will depend very much on what you are."
~ Noah Porter (1811 - 1892)
Most racists believe racism is no problem at all.
Posted by: capt on 01/12/08 at 8:47 AM Respond
From POAC:
"Some times we all have to admit that the candidate we support isn't the candidate we think they are. Sometimes a friend will step in and show you things that you were not aware of. That friend isn't trying to tear down your candidate or become your enemy. That friend is just trying to help you be better informed."
Posted by: capt on 01/12/08 at 9:37 AM Respond
"Most racists believe racism is no problem at all."
I would think that all bona fide racists feel that way whether it be David Duke supporters or Arab-hating neocons and Zionists. The point is that Ron Paul DOES NOT believe in racism.
From Ron's website: "The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims."
Indeed. Big government, oppressive 'hate crime' laws, and Affirmative Action will only further divide our nation along racial and ethnic lines. Only a political system that promotes economic self-reliance and that recognizes people as INDIVIDUALS (not as racial or ethnic collectives) may be able to heal that racial divide and help us avert Balkanization.
Globalization, open borders, NAFTA, Affirmative Action, etc. are only going to exacerbate the problem (and, indeed, I believe that they were created to do just THAT- divide the common people, keep us at eachothers' throats and uphold the economic elites who oppress ALL of us.)
Posted by: Greg on 01/12/08 at 7:18 PM Respond
I think this site ought to concentrate on REALLY scary problems, like the who communist party supporting Hillary and Obama? Now there is something to worry about, not some obscure racist no one even knows, who has said he's voting for RP... as if RP could do anything about it.
Let's put these other candidates' supporters under the microscope. You won't find it to be too pretty.
Posted by: HillaryHatesJews on 01/16/08 at 4:36 PM Respond
HilliaryHatesJews, this sounds like Hilliary is an anti-Semite. Shame on her.
Posted by: Ira C. on 01/16/08 at 6:21 PM Respond
"Ron Paul DOES NOT believe in racism."
Sure, that is why he made $5 million dollars printing a "newsletter" that was overtly racist.
He never wrote the racist garbage - he also never read HIS newsletter printed under his name. He claims 100,000 subscribers at $50 a subscription that is five million reasons to believe he is not a racist.
If you truly believe that - the tooth fairy will be stopping by soon, fer sure!
Posted by: capt on 01/17/08 at 6:37 AM Respond
So, Mother, do you have citations for this junk, or do you just print any piece of garbage you come along?
Because I do have citations. I have a lot of them.
They are all in Kirchick's article if you bother to actually read the whole thing.
Most of the things he takes out of context, the few things he gets right he takes out of context for the times (Remember All in the family? Amos and Andy even? What was acceptable in one era is not acceptable now.)
Finally, his big proof for showing that Lew Rockwell wrote this crap is to link to a paragraph, one lousy paragraph, in a blog, with no author that says that maybe, perhaps it could be Lew Rockwell who wrote them.
That is what it takes to convince you of something?
What if people started writing attacks about you? Anyone can write a stupid blog entry. If someone did write something terrible about you, and the whole world jumped on it based on that total innuendo, how would you feel?
Now imagine this was a sentence, of millions written, and it wasn't that nice.
Wow, people are so ready to go after people this society makes me ill anymore.
I don't really care what a man did or didn't do thirty or even twenty years ago. I care about today. What is going on today?
Today we have a crashing dollar, a slew of never ending wars lined up, our children will die and we will begin to have to choose between food and medicine.
Today, both Lew Rockwell, (or is his stuff a little too difficult for you to read?) and Ron Paul (ditto) are fighting the forces of racism in this country and trying to help all people.
So because some ghost writer, or long dead writer, wrote something, you would rather have his name so you can put him on the cross and burn him rather than get this country on track?
You all are on a feeding frenzy and it disgusts me.
Show me something Ron Paul has done recently, or Lew Rockwell. I can show you tons of things they have done to bring more equality to this country, tons of things that RESULT in more equality without using force on people, and you all don't give a damn about that.
I bet if you go back through every sentence Martin Luther King Jr. ever wrote you would find some racist stuff, same with Abraham Lincoln. In fact, with Lincoln, I know he was an out and out racist.
So, please, all, give it a break.
Posted by: jack sinclair on 01/17/08 at 12:52 PM Respond
I am not nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races-that I am nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
-Abraham Lincoln
Stated in his fourth debate with Senator Douglas.
Posted by: Sandra on 01/17/08 at 1:08 PM Respond
So racism is not a fair issue to explore? PUHHH-lease
Man up - we didn't print that garagbe - Ron Paul did.
So, please, all SPEAK UP!
Posted by: capt on 01/17/08 at 2:57 PM Respond
"Ron Paul is not a bigot, but if he was a libertarian bigot is nothing to worry about, because they won't use the power of the government to enforce their bigotry. It is the Republican and Democratic bigots one needs to look out for."
But Ron Paul isn't a libertarian. He's a states rights conservative. You have accepted Ron Paul's self-characterization instead of applying an objective measure of political allegiance.
Posted by: Andrew Austin on 01/19/08 at 7:34 AM Respond
I am familiar with James Kirchick and references. Aside from trivial errors, such as misidentifying the branch of the service Paul was a surgeon in, his facts are sound. As importantly, his analysis is valid. He has a solid grasp of white nationalism in the United States and properly locates Ron Paul in the middle of this reactionary countermovement against liberal democracy.
Posted by: Andrew Austin on 01/19/08 at 7:38 AM Respond
"accepted Ron Paul's self-characterization instead of applying an objective measure of political allegiance"
The best summation of the Paultards mischaracterization I have read.
Good on ya!
Posted by: capt on 01/19/08 at 7:46 AM Respond
[Posted by JD]
First off, Kirchick's piece is riddled with basic factual errors. The major one being that he states that Ron Paul was an Army surgeon. A simple piece of research shows that Dr. Paul was an Air Force flight surgeon.
If Kirchick can't be trusted with simple empirical facts, I don't trust his conceptual thinkning.
Secondly, he made no attempt to contact Dr. Paul's campaign for any information.
[/quote]
In the third paragraph of Kirchick's article he states that Paul is "an OB-GYN and former U.S. Air Force surgeon".
In the interview with Tucker Carlson Kirchick says he called Jesse Benton, Ron Paul's spokesman.
You are defending Ron Paul with lies and I do not see how Ron Paul could have allowed such statements to appear in his letter year after year without cracking down on what he was publishing.
Posted by: Jay_MMS on 01/22/08 at 12:11 PM Respond
Aside from the fact that Ron Paul has pretty much been exonerated in the eyes of the American people, there is a MUCH bigger question being raised here: Must our candidates now pass a PC approval test before they are considered electable? Hmmm...
Must they also pledge allegiance to the Zionist Lobby and refrain from criticizing the apartheid-like policies of Israel? Does criticizing Israel-and U.S. support of Israel- automatically make one an anti-Semite?
The people who are whining about Ron Paul's alleged racial statements are the same people who overlook the obvious Islamophobia and Arab-bashing among all the other Republican and front-running Democratic candidates.
Try again, neocons...
Posted by: Greg on 01/22/08 at 7:38 PM Respond
Cockburn on Ron Paul's alleged racism:
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn01302008.html
Posted by: Greg on 02/01/08 at 5:05 PM Respond
wanda gag - "Ron Paul is not a bigot, but if he was a libertarian bigot is nothing to worry about, because they won't use the power of the government to enforce their bigotry."
You may want to check out the current Libertarian candidates credentials. Bob Barr: Voted for the Patriot Act, Voted to go to Iraq, Authored and Sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act, propositioned the Pentagon to ban the practice of Wicca in the military, was Anti Drug Coordinator for the DOJ, and is also a big opponent of medical marijuana. Welcome to the Death of the LP!
Posted by: sean on 06/04/08 at 10:52 PM Respond
sean, read the party platform(they support Gay Rights). Bob Barr changed. Just like Obama changed to be like Bush. At the AIPAC meeting he promised his allegiance to Israel and their persecution of third world people. Obama will take us to war against Iran for Israel. Bob Barr will not do that.
Posted by: Give me Liberty on 06/05/08 at 9:50 AM Respond
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