Is there a reason why there cannot be a DREAM Act for all Americans and not just children of illegals (citizens, nonetheless), but children of people screwed out of their retirement, savings, investments and now homes by corporate criminals like CEO of Enron, Bear Stearns, etc, etc....

Hey MEJ,

I could not agree with you more..!!! It is very insulting that i have to PAY for my child to attend college, $18,000 yr, when a criminal illegal alien is trying to STEAL my tax $'s to send there child to OUR colleges..!!!
We need to stand up to this and MAKE our elected people remember who votes for them. We citizens vote, NOT the illegals, even thought the DEM's woudl LVOE to see 15 million illeglas vote...
I live in California and i don't think the rest of the country sees the invasion like we Californias do..!!!

Bill

Ok People,

I will give this much, If the illeglas are WILLING to serve at least 6 yrs in the Marines, then they can have papers..!! I don't think that anyone would go against this.
But other than that, Arrest the whole familiy, and ship them back where they can make THERE country a better place, not pull down OUR country..!!

Bill

Hey, Bill,
I'm tempted to harp on your for using capital letters while MISUSING the there/their distinction that all English speaking people should know about. Are you secretly an illegal alien . . . ?

Just kidding. I think your 6 years in the corps is an interesting idea, but it's also problematic in that it feeds the military industrial complex fresh meat, and would also make it easier for our leaders to fight unpopular wars by preventing US citizens from "voting with their feet" to get out of Iraq by not showing up for recruitment.

However, I think the basic premise you are onto is brilliant, and I'm not saying that sarcastically. What if we made citizenship contingent on serving the United States in some substantive manner? This could take the form of a 2 or 3-year stint in Americorps or enrolling in TeachForAmerica or some like organization (most illegal immigrants would presumably be native Spanish speakers capable of serving in the public school system). Several years of service in a capacity like that is more than most Americans will serve in their lifetimes.

Do you think that a service stint like that would be enough to atone for the heinous crime of having been born somewhere else?
-MJ

Hey MJ,

Sorry, but just doing 2 yrs in the Liberal incubator of education won't cut it... It would have to be the Marines or Army, that is what most of the people i have talked to think. Being a soldier for 6 yrs would instil such patriotism in the kids that they would be True americans, not the kind you get from hanging around Academia for 2 yrs.
And i know i am not the best when it comes to gramer, but i was a Physics major, not english.. hahaha

Bill

I think you might be misunderstanding the point, as Americorps has nothing to do with academia. Americorps is like the Peace Corps (i.e. building infrastructure like houses and roads) and similar community service activities. Teach for America is a program in which people teach in underserved public schools (typically in rural or urban areas) and receive a teaching degree after, I believe, three years. I don't think it's the kind of "academia" you are referring to (which I presume means feminists, communists, pinkos et al rewrite history, oppress angry white men, etc..)

Secondly, I would tend to dispute the idea that military service a prerequisite for being a "True american" (sic). Most natural-born American citizens haven't served in the military and have "earned" citizenship through nothing more than having been born here.

Thirdly, speaking of "gramer," I noticed you capitalized "Liberal," "Physics" and "Academia" but not "americans (sic)." Show some respect!
-MJ

I know in Germany the system they used to have was that everyone had to spend a year in the military or a year doing public service after they finished school. I don't think that would be a bad way for the U.S. to go.

I agree, JP, and am advocating a very similar system.

I don't see any reason that public colleges and universities should drive people into debt in order to get a BA in the wealthiest country in the world! Higher education should be free, but I could also see making education contingent on some kind of national service, as in Germany or other European countries. I have heard that some countries in Asia use a similar system, as well.

Jonathan Stein completely "forgot" to note that the DA lets illegal aliens take college discounts and slots from U.S. citizens.

It's a direct attack on U.S. citizenship, and no one who cares about the fundamental structure of our political system should support it.