Nader Redux: Should Dems Fear Mike Gravel?
Thirty years ago, he put the Pentagon Papers into the Senate record. Now he's back with a presidential campaign?and a bid to end the war before the election.
The political establishment has been doing its best to brush aside Mike Gravel, the 76-year-old former senator from Alaska—and fairly successfully so, until Gravel's appearance at last month's sleepy Democratic presidential debate in South Carolina. After challenging fellow Dems to end the war by legislative fiat—and make it a "felony" for the president to keep troops in Iraq—Gravel saw visits to his website zoom up, and YouTube clips of his debate remarks and even his campaign videos have been drawing tens of thousands of views. If this keeps up, could Gravel's name begin to resonate with the ring of that ultimate Democratic dirty word—Ralph Nader?
Of course Gravel, unlike Nader, has chosen to run in the Democratic primary, with no chance of tilting the general election—for now, at least. Banish the thought, but what if Fred Thompson or Chuck Hagel were to head the Republican ticket against Hillary, with her high negatives, or Obama, whose equivocation could begin to wear away his charm? What would happen if old man Gravel bolted to run as an independent (with Nader's backing, even) and started pulling one or two or three points? Keep in mind that nobody paid any heed to Nader in 2000 until he started running the dread campaign rallies in city after city, culminating in a screaming frenzy at Madison Square Garden. In a single night, Gravel managed to build a buzz among the mad-as-hell crowd. It's not clear how far this could take him—but mainstream Dems are undoubtedly at least a tad concerned.
Gravel shook up the otherwise safe, polite, and predictable by confronting mealy-mouthed fellow Dems with a dreck-cutting matter-of-factness. Commenting that his fellow candidates "frightened" him because they refused to take the nuclear option off the table with regard to Iran, he then confronted Obama with the question, "Tell me, Barack, who do you want to nuke?" Addressing Joe Biden on his plans for Iraq's future, he spoke of the "arrogance" of wanting to direct the government of another country—to which Biden replied that Gravel was living in "happy land."
He might have been the first candidate to officially announce—way back in April 2006—but until the debate, Gravel's low-budget campaign had been nearly invisible. Yet to progressives of a certain vintage, myself included, Gravel is hardly an unknown. During the 1960s, he was somewhat notorious for making public the Pentagon Papers, fighting nuclear testing and nuclear power as well as the Vietnam War, and cutting legislative deals that helped stop the draft.
Born into a working-class French Canadian family in central Massachusetts and educated in Catholic schools, Gravel moved to Alaska after serving a stint in the Army Counter Intelligence Corps in the 1950s. He worked as a brakeman on the Alaska Railroad and made some money as a property developer on the Kenai Peninsula before winning a seat in the state legislature and then the U.S. Senate. He lost that seat in 1980—the election that would send Republican Frank Murkowski to Washington— and has been largely absent from the political stage for a quarter century. When I met with him last week, he wasted no time before getting down to a few admittedly radical bits of business, chief among them his proposal to eliminate the income tax and the IRS and replacing them with a national sales tax.
Though appealing to libertarians—who have made Gravel an unlikely favorite on user-generated news sites like Digg—the proposal is bound to alienate people who might otherwise sympathize with the ex-senator: Sales taxes are considered "regressive," meaning they take proportionately more from those with lower incomes than from the better-off. But Gravel maintains that since the present tax system has become corrupted by "wealthy people gaming the system," his fix would provide a solution; to help the poor, he'd provide a guaranteed minimum income, distributed through Social Security.
Along with getting rid of the income tax, Gravel wants to "bring control of government into hands of the people," by which he means setting up a national initiative system allowing citizens to bring proposals to a popular vote. He insists, somewhat optimistically, that the American people would back gay marriage, if given the chance in a national initiative vote. Ditto on the war on drugs: "I think the American people realize the war on drugs is a total failure—waste of time, waste of money. What's wrong with marijuana? You can go out a buy a fifth of gin and do more damage to yourself."
Such proposals might be familiar fringe-candidate fare, but it is on the issue of the Iraq war that Gravel could prove embarrassing to the Democratic mainstream by relentlessly pointing out that Democrats could stop the war—if they choose to exercise their legislative power. "What we need to do is to create a constitutional confrontation between the Congress and the president," he says. "Most people have forgotten the Congress is more powerful than the president." Never mind impeachment, Gravel says: "That's a red herring right now. It would take over a year to screw around with it." Instead, he proposes a law commanding the president to bring the troops home. In 60 days. "The Democrats have the votes in the House to pass it. In the Senate, they will filibuster it. Fine. The Majority Leader starts a cloture vote the first day. Fails to get cloture. Fine. The next day—another vote on cloture. And the next day, and the next day, Saturdays and Sundays, no vacation—vote every single day. The dynamic is that now you give people enough time to weigh in and put pressure on those voting against cloture." (Here, Gravel knows whereof he speaks: As a senator, he filibustered legislation to extend the draft; eventually, a deal was cut to end it in two years.)
So, he goes on, "I would guess in 15 to 20 days you would have cloture and the bill would pass and go to the president. He would veto it. Wonderful. It comes back to the House and Senate. Normal thing is to try to override and fail. No guts. No leadership. So in the House and Senate every day at noon, you have a vote to override the veto. The Democrats are the leaders—they control the calendar. It only takes half an hour to have these votes. The media will jump on it, you know, `This guy changed his vote,' etc. But then peace groups can go out into the hustings and get these guys where they live, at home, and I would say that in 30 to 45 days they will override the veto. But it's got to be on a clean, simple issue, none of this "go out and manage the war, deal with the funds" stuff. We never cut off the funds in Vietnam. I was there. I tried it. I failed. What you have to do is go to their immediate survival. By Labor Day this could be all solved, and the troops be home by Christmas."
"There's one thing about politicians," Gravel concludes. "They are like every other human being. They are interested in their own personal survival. And that's what's at stake—a dynamic that will ruin their political careers if they don't shape up."
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After the despicable performance of the Democrats this past week, I welcome a strategy for ending the war.
America is ready for a change of direction.Let"s be honest,there"s only one party in America,no matter what they choose to call themselves.We the people know bull**** when we hear it and we are tired of being threatened.Mike Gravel is telling it straight,and if the election is rigged like the last one,they are done for.Americans are at the breaking point and if we can"t change things by voting,then this government may have to deal with it"s own civil war,not just Iraq"s.
Rock on! Gravel sounds like he's got his heart AND his mind in the right place, here, imagine if someone besides Westinghouse et. al. were able to put measures before Congress...what kind of a world would THAT be? Hmmmm...
I first learned about Mike Gravel about 4 years ago when I heard about his National Democracy Initiative...a proposal to create one person one vote. How about this idea? Ron Paul/Mike Gravel as an Independent non party ticket?
Gravel is the kind of man who is passionate about his ideas. I can think of no better candidate for the presidency. The other Democrats are becoming subject to controlling their messages and not thinking of the long term effects of their proposals and how they can change our nation. Gravel has the wisdom to see his ideas shaking up the status quo and getting legislation enacted.
I think Mr. Gravel should be the new president. I am too stupid to run the country anymore. I rode the short bus when I was a kid unfortunately.
No wonder Gravel is treated as a fringe phenomenon. No one in the political firmament - literally no one but he - is talking plain ordinary honest good sense.
Gravel is awesome, go vote in online polls for him. Show them they can't ignore the support he has.
The Fox News debate will be his only chance for time, we need to make sure to keep pushing the press to not drop him.
mike gravel was on Democracy Now last week telling the story, w/ great relish
of how he & Ellsberg ran circles around every hurdle and got those papers read on the floor to get them into the record...I would vote for Mike
Gravel in a heartbeat!! This man has no hidden agenda, no big head w/ an open mouth sucking up to Corp.'s that run this country, or fear of not sucking up to "what the candidates gaming us" drivel and distortions of what they really want to do (nothing but the status quo & running their lying mouths")...I am sick of the rich,
connected, millionaires being the only
ones able to run for high offices ie Pres/Congress...can't stand Pelosi...neocon-loving, uncaring w/ agendas of their own, not the peoples..
and their awful corruption, and calculating ploys...They do not have the right to say: "Impeachment is off the table"...There is a rule in the House rules that states that if "X" #'s of signatures are submitted to Speaker of the House, congress MUST begin an investigation into charges of Impeachment...I was just reading @ Counterpunch about Cheney & neocons's still trying to circumvent the hapless
ignorant son who became President so Cheney could wreak havoc from the back rooms/bunkers, on the rest of us & the
world...and right now Bush is being swayed by Condi, so he's trying to run around that by having Israel make a strike on Iran...thank God that Hezbollah kicked their butt, and they are still licking their wounds...& their gov't is in disarray...so we have a small amt of time that they are
still trying to reorganize their military from the rout Nasrallah dealt them...They deserved it, though they left Lebanon razed to the ground (what's new about that, it's everyday in Palestine)...Who can support Israel
when they...I say they!!...have broken
every treaty since the 1st UN resolution which gave them more that 1/2 of the land in Palestine...but, that's not enough for them...I started watching when I first saw young people throwing stones @ the Israeli tanks & troops, who regularly roust & imprison the Palestinians while AIPAC buys candidates in US...there is not one family in Palestine who doesn't have one of their fathers, husbands, sons etc in an
Israeli prison...And, I'm tired of the whole world acting like they don't know
Israel has tons of nuclear weapons..they still think that's a secret....But, if they fire at Iran...Iran upon detecting the incoming, will lob missile straight into Tel Aviv...so, it will not just be Iran, Israelis who blissfully walk around clean white steets w/ not a single paper or dust on them, will find
blood soaked Tel Aviv...This unholy alliance of evil that is U.S./Israel should end, except, I forgot, the Christians, in the name of Jesus return, back Israel, because it's when Israel is destroyed that the Christians
(so self-described, but nothing like Jesus was...and he wasn't fomenting & backing wars for redemption--what an amazing thing...Christians Know Nothing
about the do as I do of Jesus, the Christ, the Avatar...Bring on Mike Gravel, I say!! Finally someone w/honorable baggage!! He was truly great on the Democracy Now w/Amy Goodman (another jewel of the sane peoples media)...He was all caught up as he relived he and Ellsberg's antics & the final coup d' tat was to start reading them on the floor of Congress...Live long & Prosper & keep raising the crowds Mike Gravel, I'd vote for you in a heartbeat...maybe their really is a God of Goodness or, better yet...any Goddess would snap him
right up...he's great..and I am furious that he is not being allowed on the broadcast/cable debates, just the first one he was at..after that, as your article says, he like the beloved Bishop Tutu is a "rabble-rouser" Peace & Blessings...these may
just come with Mike Gravel...he needs help...maybe our more liberal mags should keep us abreast of his whereabouts & his crowds & message...like this article, that I thank you from my Heart for printing...
Peace & Blessings, newagerev@yahoo.com
Jo Barker is clearly blissfully ignorant, Israel didn't lose and Israel isn't in disarray. Israel would have easily annihilated Hezbollah if Israel didn't have a weak-dovish leader who valued playing by the rules and respecting as much as possible the rule of law when Hezbollah clearly had no respect and adherence to playing fairly.
Oh yeah and you clearly are making things up because Israel can't break treaties with people who refuse to acknowledge them . Palestinians are occupied because they lost 4 wars in a row and the Arab world bitter for losing refuses to absorb the refugees so they can use them to expel Jews from the Holy Land. If the refugees leave they lose their status as refugees and thus as pawns of a future Muslim controlled middle east. Despite well-intentioned people like Mike Gravel who are right with most everything else it is impossible for Israel to have peace with Palestine as long as either group has a national identity.
mike gravel is a national hero!!! why does he not get well-deserved attention??? (war vetran, counter-intelligence officer, author, read pentagon papers into file, only participant in SF gay pride parade)
my god!
stop and think.
gravel08. us
People don't want to hear the truth. Mike Gravel and Ron Paul at least have the guts to say it as it is.
"What would happen if old man Gravel bolted to run as an independent (with Nader's backing, even) and started pulling one or two or three points?"
He might become President of the United States, that what. There's as good a chance for him as there is for these glittering frontrunners who are all fluff and no substance. At least with Gravel, we know more about his platform than his taste in clothing. And, I'm impressed that he's not so caught up with being the Aged candidate, the way Hillary is caught up with being a woman and Obama is caught up with proving his Blackness. He's not so much a politician that he'd be impaired as President with political expediency.
" "There's one thing about politicians," Gravel concludes. "They are like every other human being. They are interested in their own personal survival. And that's what's at stake—a dynamic that will ruin their political careers if they don't shape up." "
Most Certainly!
Do it like the Swiss. It`s called direct democracy. Makes special interests irrelevant - unless SI coincides with public interests. Not perfect but then what is.
I too really like what Mike Gravel is saying. He and Dennis Cucinich are the only honest -- tell it like it is -- candidates we have. Why do we have to settle for the "Major Candidates" the press has deemed OUR choices? Hillary scares me; Obama is too inexperienced and young (and waffles too much); Edwards is sincere and the best of the Majors, but Gravel! Ah! THERE'S a candidate after MY vote! Bring him on!
So glad to see articles like this one, thank you Mr. Ridgeway! I was wondering when folks would notice Gravel's many wonderful qualities. It's a no-brainer. Spread the word: Gravel '08!!! And keep watching Democracy Now!
I totally agree with this premis. Congress has mealy mouthed me to death, both the Republicans and the Blue Dog Democrats. The progressives have to get into the fray on a majority level, and we will vote the others out.It is time to take the country back.
Gravel is the only candidate that can save the democratic party.
I have a question for all democrats and left wingers: Why not support the candidate with the most experience, leadership, and democratic values? Is there any doubt that Mike Gravel will win more respect for your party then Hillary or Barack could ever dream of getting? Do you really want to keep playing the republican game of "politics as usual"? Because as a party you have been playing that republican game, and losing miserably. Your best interest is to restore respect and credibility to your party, not bog it down with special interest politics. Vote your interest!
I'm continually impressed with this guy. He's not the prettiest, not the youngest; the media's obviously counted him out. . . BUT. . . he's got courage, good ideas, and nobody OWNS him.
Mike Gravel is the breath of fresh air that we need in this country! I hope that we can get the word out in order to get him heard by more people. The big news corporations, who financially back Clinton and Obama, have managed to mostly keep Gravel off air. It's a shame that the candidate that is actually working for the people of this nation and stands to make the most difference (for the good) is the one who is the least heard.
I hate the two party system. I want to see Mike Gravel and Ron Paul run on a "Moderate" ticket so we can send the right and left wings to the basement, where they belong.
I think only a Mike Gravel can save this country...& we NEED THIS NOW!!
I am angry @ the shortshrift he's given at the debates...& that I can't see or hear any of his campaign speeches...I saw him on Democracy Now w/Amy Goodman...the shenanigans it took
to get those Pentagon Papers in & then into the record...were a hoot!! I Love
This Man...He is about WE THE PEOPLE!!
He deserves hour long coverage on PBS, or other non-biased platforms...C-Span should have him as a guest for Interview Segment...the rest all lie the time away...and, they rarely get back to Mike on those debates...he says
so to them, too!! PLEASE, LET'S KEEP MIKE ON THE RADAR....KEEP FEATURING HIM, GIVE UPDATES, & WEBSITE DATA....I am, as I heard a caller on C-span yesterday morning am ready to leave US for good....Hugo looks fine to me...I'd teach, or work in the cooperatives...He does CARE ABOUT THE POOR...Mike Gravel for PRESIDENT...or I
predict the fall of the GreatSatanUS...
GO MIKE GRAVEL...I AM NEMESIS & I STAND
ONLY WITH YOU...I will not vote for any
candidates for Pres...I will write in
Sen. Mike Gravel....WE NEED TO MAKE THIS MOVEMENT (the write in)...all our
mag's like MJ, Nation, etc. & blogs should all humm loudly to write in Mike
Gravel for President...or, I'll be hitch-hiking to Venezuela...I won't
miss the UGLY AMERICA...I am Cherokee
bloodline...who knew the Great Lands could be stolen twice???? I will do some Nemesis style smiting before I leave this Land-of-the-Evil-Doers!!!!
Dear "missy" Simone Jones: I am far from blissfully ignorant...your comment proved that!! You have no idea what is TRUTH about Israel/Hezbollah, nor the ugly truth that can be seen on BBC, M.E. News, & some U.S. news...Perhaps you should be more knowledgeable before you open your mouth to call Israeli PM Olmert dovish?? You are deluded & though I don't like to engage in this talk: IGNORANT OF FACTS!! Hezbollah didn't play fairly??? Israel is the most armed
nation in the world, the US twin across
the ocean...Israel kills children, women, mows down their homes...Killed in cold blood the U.S. young woman Peace Worker in Palestine...He listened to her tell him that, & then he put the machine in gear and ran it right on top of her, then he sat there awhile, pulled back, looked at her smashed & crumpled body...and drove off...It was a U.S. Palestinian paper that told people where to go to honor her work & her life...Bush Admin refused twice in the past two years to even let a play about her poetry/writings be portrayed on stage to honor her life...nor did US say anything about the cruel murder in cold
blood...never seen on US news...Why is that, Missy Johns?? Israel murders Palestinians everyday, and steals more & more land...ignores UN resolutions...& U.S. backs them...they're our nukes in the M.E....
And, for the record, no excuses, Hezbollah kicked Israels royal front & back side w/ a small faction of freedom-fighters...Israel had occupied them for 19 yrs. w/ U.S. backing....Grow up little girl, educate
w/ truth...a two year old would know who the "murderers" of the children were & are everyday in Palestine...Our gov't is the enabler of all of that murdering...I have many more facts & scenarios that you obviously have no clue about to share & I'll even send you to where you can see the pictures yourself...but, most ignorant persons, never look for the real facts...they just blow B.S. w/ no facts...Time to grow up & check before you open your mouth about something your brain, let alone, your not so healthy mental smart-mouth replies...I'm sure you just
love Bush & Cheney & that they are just
working their butts off to help others..NOT EVEN CLOSE; U.S. BULLIES PERSONIFIED; FALL OF THE U.S. EMPIRE IS UPON US....maybe Israel will save your little butt,,,I wouldn't hold my
breath if I were as ignorant as your response to me...Don't respond if you don't really know, or see pix of the reality of the situation...Of this point, I reassert every word I wrote & I can back w/ facts!!, not moronic ignorance w/ an arrogant "twang"!! Grow up Missy!!
Dear revjobarker,
Thank you!(sigh of relief).
It's good to know that some people are informed and are passionate about stopping U.S. hegemonic terror.
I don't think most people understand why we don't hear the truth about Palestine here in the U.S. It's because, uninformed ones, weapons manufacturers and defense contractors own the mass media. GE and Westinghouse to name two. War is their business, and it lines their pockets.
I'm a conservative, and I'm voting for Gravel.
Mike Gravel should run as an independent, and the is the only why to break this two party stronghold on this country, and get rid of the fascist Guilliani and the cackling bitch Hillary both at the same time.
Immigration, is an issue that has become more serious than one can imagine basically targeting all LATINOS leaning more towards MEXICANS, it is unfair how, the United States is made up of a variety of ethnicities and different backgrounds therefore having people of different colors, races and yet still targeting only LATINOS, it is shown simply by all of these new laws, allowing policemen to harass immigrants, and the wall built in front of Mexico, WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SOMEHOW IN ORDER TO GET HERE ONE HAD TO MIGRATE.
I've been around a long time and have never encountered such a great, exciting candidate as Mike Gravel. We're so used to lying, power-hungry, vacillating politicians that to come across someone like Mike is like a breath of clean fresh invigorating air. www.sonjarants.blogspot.com
Gravel would make an excellent president.
tune in 30 OCT for debate WITH gravel - it will be a must see...
It is so great to see so many supports of Gravel. We are only a handful of people, but I think if each of us did one thing every day we could get more Gravel supporters and spread the message. For example, you could sign up on Gravel's website, tell a co-worker about him or something he believes in, volunteer to take part in a poll, plaster his name everywhere you can, donate to his campaign, etc. This is what the Ron Paul supporters do and we should take a lead from them.
Without a doubt, Mike Gravel would provide the leadership and simple pure common-sense that the US needs like never before in its history.
I suggested to Mike that he could win a few million friends by turning the political fund-raising upside down: declare that the maximum allowable donation to any politician or party should be set at $10.....which is the amount that EVERY American can afford. Gravel may have to run an extremely frugal campaign; but I'll bet that if he slept in city parks on his campaign, he would have tens of thousands of people sleeping with him in solidarity.
Help put pressure on him to rid the US of its "Buy-a-politician" process.
I was going to settle for Obama up until I started reading about Gravel. I agree with inotheyare in that he is a terribly underrated candidate. He's got my vote for sure. Check out his profile at http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Gravel.htm, which I just got through reading, for a comprehensive list of his quotes on various issues.
I think the National Initiative system is an excellent idea. The main purpose of the president is to be the voice of the people and with this system the executive branch will definitely be able to do that. But how would Mr. Gravel go along with this plan?
Mike Gravel is a grandfather image with a very good body language and expresses the things Americans, like to hear.
He don't dance around the issues and tells it as it is. He exposed the "Pentagon Papers" a great service and benefit, to our Country.
He has a good grip on the resolution of American issues, that the other potential candidate ignor. eg The Rothschild syndicate. An organization that has ripped us off and killed many Americans by fomenting wars, supporting both sides and financial depressions. Responsible for the murder of several American Presidents, going back 250 years, as shown in historic Internet files.
I have poliferated these to all my connections. Many Americans are now privy, to the truth and Mike reflects all I have desiminated to my fellow American Citizens. That's why the public is up in arms and very angry, over the propaganda the government normally exudes, to the people.
Colbert gravel kucinich paul nader perot carter [conyers?rangel?] united for truth elicit fear smear blacklist.
The people know too much,
democracy rising democracy now.
Rage against the machine.
Honesty compassion intelligence guts.
No more extortion blackmail bribery division.
Divided we fall.
So wonderful to see all this support for Mike Gravel. Let's all do something to support him; spread the word, tell others to watch Democracy Now!, contribute in whatever way we can to his campaign. Gravel '08!
WE LIKE MIKE!!
I wish Mike Gravel got more media coverage. I am not old enough to vote, so the only way my voice will be heard is to influence people who can. Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich will probably not win the Democratic primary (unfortunately), so the most important thing we can do is make sure their ideas are at least heard.
All Presidential Candidates for the 2008 election belong or are funded by a group started by Skull and Bones of Yale called the Council on Foreign Relations, a war mongering group that disguises itself as a think tank. Most members belong to Skull and Bones, the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, etc. just like Kerry and Bush (both Boneheads). Again, these Nazi sympathizing groups have stacked both sides of the ticket to assure themselves control of the government.
Check it out
2008 Presidential Candidates Members of the CFR include:
Democrat CFR Candidates:
Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton (Yale Law, Editor Yale Review of Law and Social Action), John Edwards, Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson
Republican CFR Candidates:
Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich
Corporate members include:
Halliburton of Dubai, British Petroleum, Dutch Royal Shell, Exxon Mobile, General Electric (NBC), Chevron, Lockheed Martin, Merck Pharmaceuticals, News Corp (FOX), Bloomberg, IBM, Time Warner, JP Morgan/ Chase Manhattan & several other major financial institutions.
Other Notable Members Include:
Dick Cheney (Director 1987-1988), John Kerry, Bill Clinton (Yale Law, met Hillary while attending), Al Gore, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John, David & Nelson Rockefeller, Condolezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan (Director 1987-1988), Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, Angelina Jolie (Yes, the actress has a five year term membership as an ambassador), Lewis �Scooter� Libby, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Maurice Hank Greenberg (Vice Chairman & Director).
The goals of the CFR are best described by its very own members. Bill Clinton’s Georgetown mentor and CFR member Carroll Quigley states: “The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England… [and]…believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one world rule established.” Quigley differs from many of his CFR colleagues in that he believes their plan for a new world order should be more publicly disclosed. In his book Tragedy and Hope, Quigley concedes he is unique among his peers in that he believes the new world order plan of global government’s “role in history is significant enough to be known.” Quigley also admits that the two-party system allows for both groups to be controlled at the highest level but operate like bitter rivals. As Quigley says, this gives the voters the chance to “throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound of extreme shifts in policy.” Controlling Washington elite allowed private central banks to �dominate the political system…and economy of world as a whole” and implement a new system of “feudalist fashion” through “secret agreements.” Although he believes the CFR’s intentions should be more public, Quigley understands the average person doesn’t understand feudalism or serfdom and will never read his book.
“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” J. Edgar Hoover
President Kennedy said of Freemasonry: “The very word ’secrecy’ is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.” President John F. Kennedy � address to newspaper publishers, April 27, 1961
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but morally treasonable to the American public.” Theodore Roosevelt
For a primer on these groups
http://iviewit.tv/senatecultbill.htm
http://iviewit.tv/CompanyDocs/Book/index.htm
http://iviewit.tv/
Take back America with a vote for either Ron Paul or Mike Gravel, the only two not affiliated with this scum ruining our country and the world. Stop watching CNN, a news organization founded by Luce a Skull member and their polls and debates, they are the propaganda filling your head with proverbial sh*t.
Best in reclaiming America
Eliot Bernstein
iviewit@iviewit.tv
530-529-4110
Ron Paul is better! While I DON"T trust ANY one of them 100% including Ron Paul he is best out of all of them,even though I don't agree with his wanting to cut taxes for corporates! That does NOT create jobs, as greedy CEO's just take money and pocket it and it is ULTIMATE corporate welfare which he says he's against! But he is not a CFR member like the rest are! What we REALLY need is and out and out real REVOLUTION AND NOW!
Wake up Mike Gravel can NOT win, Ron Paul can! So Gravel needs to quit and through his support behind RP! And DK too to get an anti-war person in W.H for a chance but we NEED A REVOLUTION SHEEPLE! THAT IS ONLY, ONLY THING THAT WILL SAVE AMERICA, IF,IF IT CAN EVEN BE SAVED NOW! TOO MANY TRAITOR'S IN BOTH PARTIES AND IN ALL GOV'T AGENCIES and some in military too!
