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iTunes Losing Download Dominance?

Stupid FrogSpiralfrog.com, an ad-supported free download service, launched today, and your iPod isn't invited to the party. By the way, doesn't that idiotic name bring you back to those heady internet startup days, when companies seemed to throw a dart at a color and an animal chart for their names? Redgorilla.com! Bluegiraffe.com! Anyway, that was good times. This Frog plans to feature over 2 million tracks within the next few months, most notably from Universal Music; the label had famously refused to renew a long-term contract with iTunes over pricing disagreements. SpiralFrog's business model, such as it is, requires you to click on their ads to keep downloading songs, and they promise "no threat of viruses," which I totally believe; I mean, why would the intertubes lie to us?

This development comes on the heels of NBC/Universal's recent decision to jump ship entirely from iTunes and take its video content to Amazon's new download service, the nearly-as-stupidly-named Unbox. It's a box, but not a box! Derrrr! Apparently 40% of iTunes movie content was from Universal, and this became all too clear for me recently. I was searching through the iTunes movie section to grab some entertainment for a plane trip, and found slim pickings (sorry, Wild Hogs and Aeon Flux, but I'd rather read the in-flight magazine). NBC's TV shows will also be exclusive to Amazon's service, which totally sucks since I watched the whole season of "30 Rock" on my iPod last year, and that's how I realized that was a good show. Sorry, Tina Fey.

While I'm all for competition, pulling your products from a popular store for spite just seems ridiculous, like, sorry, no orange juice at Safeway, we want to charge you twice as much at Albertson's. Customers forced to search for their favorite shows will just give up and buy something else, or do what I did and grab a Bittorrent of the Simpsons movie, and feel only slightly guilty during the scene of Bart writing "I will not illegally download this movie" on the blackboard.






Comments

This is a great development.

I've never paid for a TV show download and I never will. I expect a hard copy if I'm going to pay for something I could watch on TV for free.

Likewise, I don't have an iPod, or an iTunes account, and I never will.

Why would I pay MORE for a download that's crippled by DRM when I can buy the CD and use it as I want for LESS. Then I can play it on my PC, my PSP, or any other device I like.

Cheers to NBC/Universal for dumping that service, hopefully it'll wake people up to the idiocy of paying for junk from a junk provider.

Posted by: Vacendak on 09/19/07 at 12:40 PM  Respond

Vacendak is a moron. Hopefully it will wake them up? I guess you didn't read the article, or anything related to this divorce, where it says NBC/Universal left iTunes to be able to charge MORE money for a TV show.

Literacy isn't just a good idea.

Posted by: InkFreq on 09/19/07 at 1:15 PM  Respond

Spiral it is, down the tubes like so many other attempts to be the place to get music... the frog won't do it, it's not cross platform compatible, and requiring you to 'click' ad's is a joke and the advertisers will know it. Dead on arrival this site is.

NBC didn't jump ship from iTuens , they are still in negociations and any music site that pushes to say look at us better be open to all the artists, not just those represented by the once powerful and now dead music business.

Long live music, long live the artists who make it, all of them, not just the selected few by the dead majors of an era now past.

Artists will make and sell their music directly from their own sites sooner than you think, and they will sell and promote from others. The problem is there are to many places to buy and unless you know where to look, Google isn't the answer either.

I want to find a place where I can search and discover new music, where the artist posts the info and tells me where they want me to buy their work... I don't care if it's iTunes, Amazon, CDBaby or their own site, I want to support the artists directly.

Posted by: Gip Heffman on 09/19/07 at 2:13 PM  Respond

InkFreq says - "Vacendak is a moron."

Thanks for the comment InkFreq, I can see how much you strive to bring a rational, polite discourse to this issue!

The point of my post was that I have NEVER paid for a download of a TV show and won't EVER unless I get a hard copy. The show was free in the first place, if I tape it in my VCR it's free, and that's the way I like it. The ads I may or may not pay attention to pay for it, not me.

I also have NEVER downloaded music from a pay site and I will NEVER download music that's crippled by DRM. This means I also won't be downloading from SpiralFrog since they use DRM too.

I have downloaded and listened to music on many artist's web sites, as there are many who offer their music in a pure, non DRM crippled format.

My point was that at least if I WERE to download from SpiralFrog (which, again, I won't) it would be free to me, minus the time spent ignoring ads. If I WAS (which I'm not) going to download DRM crippled music, I certainly wouldn't want to PAY for it, as it, by it's nature as a DRM'ed file, is junk.

Any competition with iTunes I consider to be a good thing, particularly if it takes a step away from the iTunes model of paying for junk files. If it's junk anyway it ought to at least be free.

Posted by: Vacendak on 09/19/07 at 3:13 PM  Respond

Oh man, Vacendak! Don't you read the news? "Cheers to NBC/Universal"? could be why InkFreq replied as he/she did. Look, like it or not, iTunes opened the doors to legitimate downloads and are working towards removing DRM from all their files. The record/media companies are, have been and always will be motivated by greed. iTunes won't give 'em what they want? let's dump 'em, they say! Talk about chopping off your nose despite your face. They'd cut their own head off if it made them some money - Buy direct whenever possible!

Posted by: pierro57 on 09/20/07 at 3:34 AM  Respond

Yes, pierro57, I read the news.

Of COURSE they're motivated by greed! That's why they use DRM'ed junk files!

I'm not downloading from any of them anyway so the sooner the whole system that iTunes pioneered goes up in flames the better for all of us!

Then we can finally get some services that actually SERVE us.

Cheers to NBC/Universal for helping to break iTunes!

Why does no-one get this?

Is every other poster an iZombie?


Posted by: Vacendak on 09/20/07 at 8:00 AM  Respond

Gip got it right. NBC Universal is the past top-down paradigm and iTunes broke that old record industry mafia down. iTunes is just part of the mix for the future. This frog is no leaper just a hop, skip and a jump from the past. There are new sites - like www.muzlink.com - that are promoting artist control. Check it out.

Posted by: bloomsson on 09/20/07 at 8:44 AM  Respond

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