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Monica Goodling: 'I Know I Crossed the Line'

Washington Dispatch: In her appearance before the House Judiciary Committee, the Justice Department's former White House liaison fesses up to using a political screening process to vet potential hires and turns the tables on former Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty.

May 24, 2007


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"So, what do you say, is she going to cry?" one reporter quipped to another, as they settled in to watch Monica Goodling's long awaited testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. The reporter was referring to an episode in March, not long before she resigned from the Justice Department, when Goodling, realizing the gathering political storm over the purge of nine federal prosecutors seemed likely to upend her fledgling career in government, broke down in the office of her colleague David Margolis. "She proceeded for the next, it seemed like forever but it was probably only about 30 or 45 minutes, to bawl her eyes out and say, 'All I ever wanted to do was serve this President and this administration and this department,'" Margolis told congressional investigators.

All indications are that it was Goodling's fealty to president and party over her loyalty to the department itself that proved her undoing.

Yesterday, dressed in a dark suit and flanked by four lawyers, Goodling, who asked for and received immunity in exchange for her testimony, appeared nervous though composed as she took her place in front of a full session of John Conyers' powerful committee. One of three senior Justice Department officials who has been forced to resign in the wake of the U.S. Attorney firings, Goodling is a 1999 graduate of Pat Robertson's evangelical law school and a party loyalist who once did opposition research for the Republican National Committee. She rose quickly through the ranks of the Justice Department, becoming senior counsel to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as well as the agency's liaison to the White House. Granted the authority to hire and fire a range of Justice Department officials, political appointees as well as career staffers, she often questioned candidates on their ideology and once stalled the hiring of an applicant for a nonpolitical position deeming him too "liberal." "I know I took political considerations into account on some occasions," she told Congress yesterday. "I know I crossed the line."

Beyond placing wagers on whether thirty-three-year-old Goodling would shed tears of contrition (or merely self pity), members of the press were anticipating that her testimony would finally shed light on the extent of the White House's involvement in the prosecutor firings. Indeed, former New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias, one of the fired prosecutors, has suggested that he believes Goodling holds the "keys to the kingdom." Her voice quivering as she made her opening statement (she never broke down, though) Goodling quickly dispelled the notion that her testimony would illuminate the role of the White House in the firings. "I did not hold 'the keys to the Kingdom' as some have suggested," she said.

She did, however, drop a bombshell when she told Congress that Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, who announced his resignation in May, had not been "fully candid" when he testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in February. While McNulty has accused Goodling and Sampson of withholding information about the role of the White House in the prosecutor purge, Goodling shifted the blame back to him. "The Deputy's public testimony was incomplete or inaccurate in a number of respects," she said, joining the circular firing squad of accusations and counter-accusations that has characterized this scandal. Among other things, Goodling told Congress that McNulty was less than candid with Congress about "White House involvement in the replacement decision" and "failed to disclose that he had some knowledge of the White House's interest in" installing Karl Rove's protégé, Tim Griffin, as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas (a position that opened up when the Justice Department forced out Bud Cummins). If true, Goodling's testimony suggests that McNulty may have intentionally misled Congress and could pave the way for a possible criminal investigation. McNulty, for his part, did not waste any time firing back, issuing his own statement yesterday denying Goodling's allegations: "I testified truthfully at the Feb. 6, 2007, hearing based on what I knew at that time. Ms. Goodling's characterization of my testimony is wrong and not supported by the extensive record of documents and testimony already provided to Congress."

Though congressional Democrats clearly hoped Goodling's testimony might expose the involvement of Rove and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in replacing the prosecutors, she testified that she "was not the primary White House contact for purposes of the development or approval of the U.S. Attorney replacement plan" and claimed she she never spoke with Rove or Miers "about the hiring or firing of any U.S. Attorney."

While Congress has yet to uncover the extent of the White House's role in the prosecutor purge, members of the House and Senate Judiciary committees seem determined to press on. But to truly get to the bottom of the scandal, Congress will need to hear from White House officials. So far, though, the adminstration has balked at allowing Miers or Rove to testify publicly. "The only way we can get to the full truth is if Karl Rove is sitting in the very same seat you are sitting in, and he needs to be here posthaste," said Sheila Jackson-Lee the Texas Democrat.

Leigh Ferrara is the senior Washington fellow for Mother Jones.

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To me, it seems mind-boggling that so many have testified, yet nobody seems to know who made up the firing list for U.S. Attorneys. It points so clearly to the White House!
Posted by:Amy H. JensenMay 25, 2007 2:02:51 PMRespond ^
Monica Goodling for President! Afterall she was "class" president and that's more experience than she had to work a high level job in the Justice Dept.
Posted by:Chris JohnsonMay 25, 2007 2:23:46 PMRespond ^
Look! If you can't impeach a president for treason, you sure aren't going to get him for firing a few attorneys because they wouldn't pledge allegiance to the KING.
Posted by:LauraMay 25, 2007 7:35:42 PMRespond ^
Please spare the crocodile-tear like attitude Ms. Goodling. Do bare the Right-wing betrayal of the democratic institutions and equality principles for the sake of a demagogue like George. Her role shows the unfaithfulness of the Administration to all Americans even as she’s a graduate of Christian schools, 2 of them. At the spiritual core she avoided the Godly purpose of America to serve a misguided hypocrite – Rove & GW. Worse, has she done this for power and pride - for personal gain? What would Pat Robertson say, or even What Would Jesus Do? Despite failing the American values she has violated her sacred Oath to herself. Monica, do a personal inventory and tell us the full insidiousness of Rove's part and plan for America. That is to be honest and truthful to All Citizens and get what forgiveness is capable now. For this and the Opposition Research you did – I think I was passed over for a dozen jobs (did you do that to me for exercising my 1st Amendment)? /AL/ Independent Voter
Posted by:Independent AlMay 25, 2007 8:42:46 PMRespond ^
How disappointing. None of the articles I have read on Ms. Goodling's testimony -- have mentioned "who" she was wearing. When Ms. Plame testified before Congress, we all were told she wore Armani. Not much about her testimony, but that she wore Armani. C'mon folks can't there be some consistency here on how you cover these women witnesses, who are summoned to testify before congressional committees? The American people have a right to know. You have the duty to report. On her tears, grown-up lawyers don't cry. Grown-up lawyers who graduate from Right-wing religious law schools have long ago turned it over to The Lord.
Posted by:E.R. WhiteMay 26, 2007 3:00:32 AMRespond ^
We've got gov officials claiming the 5th now.What's next? Condoleeza Rice disappearing into the witness relocation program to avoid a RICO case ?
Posted by:Amine ZaryMay 26, 2007 6:07:59 AMRespond ^
The leads into the usurping of our Constitutional Rights were laid bare to the committees members,yet the members handled her with kid gloves there is a ending to this and the script is already written. Dems will go just as far as the powerful will allow but no more.
Posted by:Eric MeiersMay 26, 2007 6:46:37 AMRespond ^
She impressed me as a person I would not want to be near. Absolutely ruthless, extremely adept and clever with words. I can frightfully imagine her as the penultimate inquisitor. So full of purpose, driven by tunnel vision ideology. A savage specimen.
Posted by:Cab02149May 26, 2007 11:34:05 AMRespond ^
I watched the testimony of Monica Gooding and found her to be forthright, humble, and reasonable. I find no crime in her. The scandal here is that it is quite possible, even easy, to get rid of political opponents by baseless accusations of wrongoing, oft' repeated by the press, which have the effect of hounding innocent people out of office. The shame is that so many people are so cruel as to enjoy this sport. Your article, which assumes Monica's "undoing" and the eventual undoing of the president by such outrageous means, is scary. But I, like Monica, am also a believer in a good Lord, who sees that those who are persecuted are not the ones who, in the end, are undone.
Posted by:Elizabeth BickfordMay 26, 2007 1:53:32 PMRespond ^
Religious fundamentalists attacked NYC to try and destroy our government. It appears that our own home-grown religious fundamentalists are doing their best to do the same from the inside. Pat Robertson should be proud.
Posted by:Rob LiptakMay 26, 2007 2:12:52 PMRespond ^
"those who are persecuted are not the ones who, in the end, are undone" Why are christians always saying they are persecuted when it is they who do the most persecution.
Posted by:RoryMay 26, 2007 9:10:24 PMRespond ^
Throw out all interview questions...like "what are your qualifications?" They just simplified it by asking, "do you believe Jesus was a founding father?"...and, "would you like this department to reflect this absolute truth until he returns to kill all liberals and gays?"
Posted by:joe d.May 27, 2007 8:15:43 AMRespond ^
I am simply stunned at how greatly this Administration rewards such sheer neolithic incompetence. Monica Goodling would scarcely qualify as a paralegal in some local county court system deep in rural middle America. Yet, because Rev. Pat Robertson knows Flubya, and has whored the Bride of Christ (his church) to the Beast (the GOP), this poorly polished little dumbbell is rewarded with a blessed position in the Department of Justice, determining who gets to practice, and designating how they can practice the Law. Flubya, of course, saw nothing at all wrong with this picture, steadily supporting Gonzo for a "well done" job. My employer can never ever ask me to make known my political or civic affiliations. Yet, this presumptious little oaf exercised such obtuse temerity repeatedly without flinching. "I know I crossed the line," she said. Oh, you think? I suppose the only good news here is that, though obviously cognitively challenged, she has demonstrated that her mental capacity is sufficiently high enough to assist in her own defense at trial. I don't think she should get away with this one. She has provided enough information to start shackling Gonzo and company, if nothing else. With any luck, everyone snared in this dragnet will decide to rat out George Shrubya and Darth Cheney, finding it way more favorable to go to prison with them than for them.
Posted by:PennyMay 27, 2007 2:30:19 PMRespond ^
The Goods on Goodling and the Keys to the Kingdom Special to BRADBLOG by Greg Palast This Monica revealed something hotter — much hotter — than a stained blue dress. In her opening testimony yesterday before the House Judiciary Committee, Monica Goodling, the blonde-ling underling to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Department of Justice Liaison to the White House, dropped The Big One….And the Committee members didn’t even know it. Goodling testified that Gonzales’ Chief of Staff, Kyle Sampson, perjured himself, lying to the committee in earlier testimony. The lie: Sampson denied Monica had told him about Tim Griffin’s “involvement in ‘caging’ voters” in 2004. Huh?? Tim Griffin? “Caging”??? The perplexed committee members hadn’t a clue — and asked no substantive questions about it thereafter. Karl Rove is still smiling. If the members had gotten the clue, and asked the right questions, they would have found “the keys to the kingdom,” they thought they were looking for. They dangled right in front of their perplexed faces. The keys: the missing emails — and missing link — that could send Griffin and his boss, Rove, to the slammer for a long, long time. Kingdom enough for ya? But what’s ‘caging’ and why is it such a dreadful secret that lawyer Sampson put his license to practice and his freedom on the line to cover Tim Griffin’s involvement in it? Because it’s a felony. And a big one. Our BBC team broke the story at the top of the nightly news everywhere on the planet - except the USA - only because America’s news networks simply refused to cover this evidence of the electoral coup d’etat that chose our President in 2004. Here’s how caging worked, and along with Griffin’s thoughtful emails themselves you’ll understand it all in no time. The Bush-Cheney operatives sent hundreds of thousands of letters marked “Do not forward” to voters’ homes. Letters returned (”caged”) were used as evidence to block these voters’ right to cast a ballot on grounds they were registered at phony addresses. Who were the evil fakers? Homeless men, students on vacation and — you got to love this — American soldiers. Oh yeah: most of them are Black voters. Why weren’t these African-American voters home when the Republican letters arrived? The homeless men were on park benches, the students were on vacation — and the soldiers were overseas. Go to Baghdad, lose your vote. Mission Accomplished. How do I know? I have the caging lists… I have them because they are attached to the emails Rove insists can’t be found. I have the emails. 500 of them — sent to our team at BBC after the Rove-bots accidentally sent them to a web domain owned by our friend John Wooden. Here’s what you need to know — and the Committee would have discovered, if only they’d asked: 1. ‘Caging’ voters is a crime, a go-to-jail felony. 2. Griffin wasn’t “involved” in the caging, Ms. Goodling. Griffin, Rove’s right-hand man (right-hand claw), was directing the illegal purge and challenge campaign. How do I know? It’s in the email I got. Thanks. And it’s posted below. 3. On December 7, 2006, the ragin’, cagin’ Griffin was named, on Rove’s personal demand, US Attorney for Arkansas. Perpetrator became prosecutor. The committee was perplexed about Monica’s panicked admission and accusations about the caging list because the US press never covered it. That’s because, as Griffin wrote to Goodling in yet another email (dated February 6 of this year, and also posted below), their caging operation only made the news on BBC London: busted open, Griffin bitched, by that “British reporter,” Greg Palast. There’s no pride in this. Our BBC team broke the story at the top of the nightly news everywhere on the planet — except the USA — only because America’s news networks simply refused to cover this evidence of the electoral coup d’etat that chose our President in 2004. And now, not bothering to understand the astonishing revelation in Goodling’s confessional, they are missing the real story behind the firing of the US attorneys. It’s not about removing prosecutors disloyal to Bush, it’s about replacing those who refused to aid the theft of the vote in 2004 with those prepared to burgle it again in 2008. Now that they have the keys, let’s see if they can put them in the right door. The clock is ticking ladies and gents… *************** Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestseller, Armed Madhouse: From Baghdad to New Orleans - Sordid Secrets and Strange Tales of a White House Gone WILD. For more info, or to hear Brad Friedman, Ed Asner and other troublemakers read from Armed Madhouse, go to www.GregPalast.com
Posted by:SuzeeMay 27, 2007 2:48:59 PMRespond ^
Behold the neo-Chrisitians. Absolutely ruthless, shameless, and so bereft of any sense of morality that the fire bombing of a clinic where abortions are performed seems like a good thing. Welcome to Cromwell's Commonwealth. Question is, what are rational people going to do about it?
Posted by:DavidMay 28, 2007 5:10:54 AMRespond ^
Behold the neo-Chrisitians. Absolutely ruthless, shameless, and so bereft of any sense of morality that the fire bombing of a clinic where abortions are performed seems like a good thing. Welcome to Cromwell's Commonwealth. Question is, what are rational people going to do about it?
Posted by:DavidMay 28, 2007 6:17:38 AMRespond ^
Loyalty, once considered a virtue, is now an indication of subvwersion of the Constitution in this administration. It has actually become a code word for a willingness to break the law. The stupidity of the people who elected this president is beyond words.
Posted by:Jean GarfinkleMay 28, 2007 6:37:35 AMRespond ^
I am reminded of the Dinsney version of Alice in Wonderland, when she came upon the cards painting the roses red. Upon being caught they immediately started to blame one another and refused to take responsiblity for their actions. We need to start impeachment proceedings on Gonales, Cheney and then Bush. I am sick to may stomach with all the lies and corruption.
Posted by:Brenda ReissMay 28, 2007 12:25:03 PMRespond ^
What did goodling say about "voter caging during the 2000 elections in Florida and 2004 caging of voters and in 2006 elections What did she say about voter fraud???
Posted by:davidctoneill@yahoo.comMay 28, 2007 8:12:00 PMRespond ^
I'm a liberal evangelical Christian (really, it's not an oxymoron)and I find it appalling that Ms. Bickford (see previous post)assumes that God is somehow automatically on her and George Bush's "side". These sworn goverment officials have lied, schemed, obfuscated, and illegally manipulated their way into an unjust and ungodly war, along with many other equally horrid things. What in the world makes these "Christians" believe God is on their side? These things are SINS in the Bible I read. They must have a different version than the one I have. This is the kind of blind, unquestioning loyalty that brought about the rise of the Fascists in Europe, the Inquisition, and the Crusades. Not exactly a good advertisement for modern Christianity. I am proud to call myself a Christian, but I am horrified at what all is done in Christ's name.
Posted by:Helen PressleyMay 28, 2007 8:41:04 PMRespond ^
Good article by Ms Ferrara, about a 33-year-old "girl" with a trembling voice and silken golden locks (was the photo intended to remind us of Legally Blonde's Witherspoon?). Isn't this more evidence of the incompetence of our leaders and their staff? Now they can use their immaturity and ignorance as a defense? Are we supposed to believe the Justice department is staffed by folks who perform their duties based on hearsay about what's legal or not? Do we really want to believe these folks don't insist on written clarification of the most important points of conversations they have about the most important parts of their most important decisions? Are we to accept that these folks believe they are paid such enormous salaries for the miniscule responsibility and authority they have testified they actually have? Will our Congress accept the "I saw nothing, heard nothing, said nothing, did nothing, knew nothing, but I didn't mean to" excuse, again?
Posted by:Clinton B.May 29, 2007 2:17:09 PMRespond ^
Monica: "I'm just a little girl working in a world full of mean grownups, and I broke the law over and over and over, but I didn't mean to, and anyway, at least I'm not as bad as Paul; he lied to you nice gentlemen right to your faces, in front of God and the whole TV audience! So there!" Male Republicans: "You're a brave little girl, and you have nothing to fear from us." Male Democrats: "We're sure you've never intentionally done anything wrong, because who could expect a little girl to understand all those stupid laws, anyway?" Female Democrats: "A 30-something 'little girl' with slice-and-dice authority, who didn't mean to do wrong? Give me a break!" Female Republicans: "Amen, Sisters, Amen Indeed!"
Posted by:Another CynicMay 29, 2007 2:46:24 PMRespond ^
MOJO, you missed the real story. Goodling opennly admitted that Griffin was in charge of some voter caging project. Then she went on to say that there was something questionable about voter caging. Darn right there is. Voter caging is illegal. It is essentially voter purging. Who were they purging? Based on the investigative work of Greg Palast, BBC reporter and author of "Armed Madhouse, the Republican operatives were purging minority voters who were more likely to vote Democrat. Goodling either has a whopper of a plan up her prettly little business suit sleeve, or else she is actually denser than lead. Who knows maybe she dropped that information into her testimony to get the spotlight off her own transgressions, that is that she took politics into consideration when hiring. So then again, maybe she is brillant. Only one problem with her plan or lack there of, the media, as well as the committee members, have yet to respond and inquire further into her admission about voter caging. Just to recap, Goodling essentially said we, the White House and Department of Justice were aware of Tim Griffin's involvement in voter caging while he was Chairman of Ohio Republican Election Commission. What is the media waiting for. In your piece you seem to think whether or not Monica was going cry is important. Ridiculing is not the same as reporting. Goodling ain't no lightweight. She is a pretty good looking blond who was obviously bright enough to somehow finagle herself into a prominent bureaucratic position as liason between the Department of Justice and the White House. She was privy to all sorts of information. So far all you media people have done is regurgitate the litany of lies, the he said she said saga of perjury. Not to downplay the seriousness of perjury, but isn't tampering with the election process a more serious transgression? Greg Palast, BBC reporter and author of Armed Madhouse, has been ranting about the Republican voter caging scam since the last election, but none of you paid journalists have stepped up to investigate further. It is about time that you go after something genuinely newsworthy. What if you (the media) had done your job? You are paid to know a story when you see one, right? You are paid to investigate aren't you? It is not like this story has not been out in the public domain for the past three years. Not like there aren't several articles, a book, and a documentary that address the voter caging issue. The same issue Monica is talking about. Just think if one of you reporters had picked up on the caging story in 2004, then maybe those committee members would have known what voter caging is and maybe they would have jumped all over Goodling. Maybe the Bush administration would have been run out of Washington. Your lack of reporting is absolutely abhorrent. Seriously are you historically disconnected with the namesake of your magazine? Mother Jones was about voters rights and seeing that womens votes counted. Now you are confronted with a monumental admission, which essentially validates claims that voter caging/purging was occuring and you feign ignorance. Sorry for the rant but you people are paid to get us the story, especially you so-called muckrackers at Mother Jones. If there is some massive editorial conspiracy to suppress the voter caging story and you could lose your job over it, then you best take a moment for a gut check and figure out a way to get the story out, because I am willing to bet that all us MOJO readers out here will back you. Come on now we are waiting!
Posted by:John LupienJune 1, 2007 9:05:48 AMRespond ^
Why didn't the Democrats get away with Monicagate like the Republicans are getting away with everything. Is lying only permitted if you profess to be a "conservative christian?" What about that commandment...... wait don't tell me..... a... thou shault not LIE!!!!!
Posted by:Mary KJune 4, 2007 11:06:13 AMRespond ^
Am I missing something here? Goodling used her immunity to voluntarily admit to committing federal crimes. The committee, being so absorbed on Gonzales, missed an opportunity. Do you really think she'd decided to be the "gate keeper" for the Bush brand of political corretness all on her own. She was coached, trained and placed in that possition for that express purpose. And that my friends is a conspiracy to commit crimes. Do you think she kept what she was doing to herself? Anybody she told or knew about her illigal activities and did nothing, participated in a cover up. Congress needs to not let her get away with her little mea culpa, recall her to the stand and get to the bottom of all her illigal acts. There, they just might find the "keys to the kingdom" afterall.
Posted by:Ron SmithJune 8, 2007 2:00:33 PMRespond ^
Code of silence is at work here mixed with spices of devotion to the political figure (not symbol)and heated by do not self-incriminate. May she find peace and comfort in the age of global warming.
Posted by:NMSJune 27, 2007 8:37:50 PMRespond ^
How can so many White House insiders not know what was going on in the firing of the US. Federal prosecutors? How is it that some people are still saying there were WMD's and Al Queda in Iraq? Why do some people still hold strongly to the story that Iraq/ Saddam Hussein was the mastermind in 9/11 or still justify the war by saying we needed to stop Saddam because he was an "evil doer". Who voted for George W. two times? No wonder that the founding fathers thought the masses were too stupid to have a true democracy and developed a Republic.I can understand this by the failure of some to still grasp the facts, for six long years, that the Administration is corrupt.The founding fathers set up a Republic because they thought the masses were stupid, and I can understand this. Who voted for Bush? Little did the Founding Fathers know that the notion of a Republic also would not work because this country is now controlled by a Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by:vicki LawsonJuly 10, 2007 9:22:29 AMRespond ^
As brit now living abroad and looking back anxiously at the growing repression of the British people, I have looked more closely at the leanings of American politics - SNAP ! I sincerly hope that more honest journalists fight their way to the front of your media before its TOO LATE. I've started to notice the simularities between the US media and the old Soviet media. The only difference being that the soviets censored by force whereas the US censors by media ownership. America has so much to lead the world in - dont let it be Fascism. Americans wake up and read between the lines - your losing your RIGHTS !
Posted by:Chris CooperJuly 12, 2007 7:00:20 AMRespond ^

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