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Can Sicko Influence Healthcare Reform?

Arts: Call Michael Moore what you will, but if he can persuade Americans to improve our healthcare system, he will have succeeded where many others have failed.

June 29, 2007


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Michael Moore takes a lot of heat for his showboating. Even before the release of his latest film, Sicko, he was attacked for taking 9/11 rescue workers to Cuba to get medical treatment that the federal government had refused to provide. Like most Moore stunts, it made his point—while simultaneously eroding his credibility. But at a recent sneak preview of the film, it was clear that for all his bombast and ego, Moore has developed a cinematic style that can bring radical ideas to mass audiences. With Sicko, he's tapping into popular outrage over health care just as national and state politicians are weighing in with proposals for reform. It may be Moore's best shot yet of actually influencing policy.

Sicko's Sacramento premiere, sponsored by the California nurses' union, offered an unusual opportunity to march to a movie theater from a protest rally. Earlier in the day, Moore and three of Sicko's protagonists were star witnesses at a state Senate briefing on health care reform. Before a roomful of nurses wearing red Sicko-themed scrubs, Moore began his testimony with genuine humility, describing how the film grew out of a short segment on Bravo about a man who had a necessary pancreas transplant denied by his HMO, which resulted in the HMO approving the transplant. "I began to think at that moment," Moore explained, "if we could save one man's life in ten minutes with nothing more than this tool, this camera and a microphone, what else could we do?"

His testimony reached a crescendo when he declared, "We're the only country in the western world that doesn't believe it is a human right to provide free universal health coverage for every one of its citizens. And we're the only country—this is what is so amazing, isn't it? Because we're all Americans….We're a good people, we have a good heart and a good soul and we have a conscience…. [But we] allow 9 million of our children to go uninsured…. What is wrong with us? That's not who we are, that's not what we used to be about!" Moore didn't just tap into his usual patriotic populism; he also sang California's praises and urged the state to "lead the way again." During his testimony, most people in the audience cried, gave a standing ovation, or both.

Moore didn't come to California's capital just to advocate for insuring more Americans. The sneak preview was offered in support of a bill by State Senator Sheila Kuehl that would create a single-payer system in the state, the only one of four reform proposals now on the table that would do so. Moore is clearly also hoping that his film will fuel a national push toward government-funded healthcare. For that reason, Sicko avoids stories about the uninsured and instead focuses on the tragedies profit-driven private insurance companies cause among insured, middle-class Americans. But a single-payer system is a hard sell. So, while Sicko indulges in its expected share of grandstanding and emotional manipulation to make its point, Moore had to employ his significant powers of persuasion—whether earnest or manipulative—to give his film a shot at affecting health care policy.

Sicko profiles Americans who are forced into financial despair, illness, or death by the unjust limitations of their health insurance programs. It presents tear-jerking tragedies like those of Dawnelle Keys, whose 18-month-old daughter died of an infection treatable with antibiotics after Kaiser refused to authorize payment at the "out-of-network" hospital to which the ambulance rushed her. Moore's long shot of the worn—and noticeably thin—scrapbook that is all Keys has left of her daughter manages to balance emotional theatrics with genuine tenderness.

Moore also milks the humor of insurance-company irrationality. Sicko features Becky Malke, an employee at an insurance call center, who tearfully explains how she must reject applications from anyone with illnesses on a list of disqualifying preexisting conditions. "How long is that list?" Moore asks. Malke answers sheepishly, "It's pretty long." Cue up the Star Wars theme song as the encyclopedic list scrolls up the screen and into outer space. Another woman tells how her ambulance ride from a car accident to the hospital was denied because she failed to have it preapproved. The audience's knowing laughter drives home the point that most Americans—even those who become apoplectic at the idea of a single-payer system—are fed up with insurance companies' Kafkaesque bureaucracies.

For contrast, Moore interviews happy, healthy Europeans and Canadians who express satisfaction with their government-funded systems. Unexpectedly, the film's most persuasive emotional note was hit by the dry humor generated by their bafflement at our plight. The film opens with the story of an American man who cut off two fingertips with a circular saw. Uninsured, he can only afford to reattach one. Later, Moore meets a Canadian who cut off four fingers entirely. He was rushed to the hospital and underwent 24 hours of surgery; all four were successfully reattached. As Moore tells him about his American counterpart, the camera zooms in on the man's brow: a tiny, confused furrow. The audience doesn't need any more to burst into brittle laughter.

Still, it's hard not to see Moore as self-aggrandizing at times. The film includes a long shot of him floating in a powerboat at the edge of Guantanamo Bay, flanked by 9/11 rescue workers, using a bullhorn to reason with an apparently empty watchtower. Moore declares that he's only asking that the rescue workers receive the same for the same preventive care that the government gives the Gitmo detainees. There's also a scene where Moore documents his "anonymous" payment to the author of the anti-Moore website, Moorewatch.com. In the filmmaker's version, his detractor had announced that he would have to choose between maintaining the site and paying for his sick wife's mounting health insurance premiums. (The detractor has not been mollified and slams Moore's version as yet another self-serving misrepresentation.)

But Moore deserves credit for pioneering the documentary film as a genre capable of mass appeal and for using his films as engines for change. Sicko may just prove a more effective catalyst than Farenheit 9/11. The takeaway message of that film—that George W. Bush is a bad president and the United States shouldn't ally itself with Saudi Arabia—was far less inspirational than Sicko's call for Americans to take pride in their country by helping one another. Moore certainly has the public's attention; it will be fascinating to see if he manages to sell enough conservatives on his message to force politicians to offer more than a Band-Aid for the healthcare crisis.



 

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This will end up like all the rest of Michael Moores films. He will make a lot of money of it but it won't help change a thing.
Posted by:JIM HatksellJune 29, 2007 6:25:44 PMRespond ^
I haven't seen the film but if Moore is advocating a single payer system, I hope he spent time dissecting the wasteful components of the for-profit insurance based system with all the hand-offs and administrative processing, not to mention the obvious profit margin.
Posted by:BudJune 29, 2007 9:47:29 PMRespond ^
I hope he succeeds, within the UK we already suffer from USA inspired "free market" erosion of our health and liberties. Our kids are becoming less healthy due to USA "fast food" influences - time to improve matters - fast.
Posted by:Julian Smith UKJune 29, 2007 9:49:22 PMRespond ^
In a country that spends so much on the benefit of the citizens America should provide for the people and lead the rest of the world to care for its citizens
Posted by:RomanJune 30, 2007 1:00:28 AMRespond ^
Americans should be able to buy affordable catastrophy insurance. Small medical bills, like a visit to the doctor, they should pay for themselves
Posted by:Anthony J. de BeusJune 30, 2007 8:30:34 AMRespond ^
As a physician and a political conservative, it gauls me to say so, but Michael Moore is correct in many of his obversations, and this film might actually accomplish something. I wish he would be as forthcoming with solutions as he is with the problems. We in the profession know all about the issues he is exposing. We just don't know how to get to solutions. I suspect he doesn't know either. For instance, it is no surprise to me, as an ER physician, that criminals get better health care than their victims. But in a legal system where criminals can sue the justice system for their health outcomes, whereas the victim can only sue the criminal, that is the logical outcome. One has to change the underlying fabric of the legal system. Let's see Michael Moore take on that problem.
Posted by:Steve HedleskyJune 30, 2007 10:56:41 AMRespond ^
The U.S. leads the world with the most innovative developments in minimally invasive, endolumenal, and no scar procedures. New devices and techniques are driven by clinical and economic needs, yet the average patient and healthcare beneficiary seems to pay more and more for mediocre coverage. Where does all the money go that we save with new minimally invasive treatment ideas? We cannot change the world of surgery unless others like the insurance industry pulls on the same roap instead of trying to push on it. Kurt http://www.ideasforsurgery.com/
Posted by:KurtJune 30, 2007 12:40:04 PMRespond ^
The answer for our denied rights to health care is a simple one. Medicare from birth to death! Medicare has provided very good health care to our seniors until King Bush became involved. Down with Medicare part D and up with a healthcare system funded, administrated, and watched by "We the People!"
Posted by:Irene TronJune 30, 2007 3:16:42 PMRespond ^
moore better do all he can to improve the healthcare system! is one sick mutha!!!
Posted by:johnJune 30, 2007 4:50:17 PMRespond ^
I happen to work inside the medical industry, and I am SO glad that SiCKO finally surfaced as a feasible argument and protest against the private-sector criminals. We need universal health care NOW.
Posted by:GarrdorJune 30, 2007 5:00:28 PMRespond ^
A great Movie. May be hard to believe, and we better believe it. We better take a stand or there will soon be nothing to stand for.
Posted by:Marjorie S. McCurtainJune 30, 2007 5:09:30 PMRespond ^
As a retired Fed Gov employee I continued my gov. administered health insurance - the same gov. coverage that your U.S. Senators and Congressman have and would deny to you. Irs probably the best medical coverage you can get & has plenty of choices.
Posted by:George H.June 30, 2007 5:19:03 PMRespond ^
OMG. Another reason I'm leaving the liberal camp. You CANNOT review this film, mention 'happy, healthy Europeans and Canadians' without SOME shame. Europeans and Canadians wait YEARS just to get on a WAITING LIST. Are you MAD? Moore is a liar. Yes our health care system is a shambles but please please please do not allow his professed liberalism to give him a pass to deception. The truth is good enough, don't use lies.
Posted by:ChrisJune 30, 2007 9:18:02 PMRespond ^
Nothing will change. Until the people are once again represented by those in power, the status quo will go unchallenged. Campaign finance reform, voting machine reform, media ownership reform, these are the only three issues that can effect change.
Posted by:Jon TerryJuly 1, 2007 6:50:42 AMRespond ^
Well Michael Moore has money, so its easy for him to sit back and decide what's right for the rest of us, NOT! Regarding the mandatory Massachusetts "Begins MANDATORY Universal Health Care July 1, 2007", health insurance;What kind of increase in taxes are the LEGAL and TAX PAYING residents of Massachusetts going to face? And how much of what they are forced to pay cover not only those who can't afford insurance, but will also go towards ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? There is little mention of how the mandatory insurance is also a mandatory tax increase, and or to whom the money will directly benefit? It looks a lot like the oil industry! HOW will the people use their insurance? Like a PPO or and HMO? and how does the doctor get reimbursed as compared to their current fees (as we all know the current ucr reimbursement in most areas are well below, in certain areas less than 50% of what they the insurance companys previously reimbursed) So how much is the doctor really being paid and will all doctors be forced to accept this mandatory health insurance? If not what kind of doctors will the government be forcing us to select and If all doctors will be required to accept this insurance than at what percent of their practice will suffer? Why, Should we care? well I prefer a well educated doctor to the cracker box version, but maybe thats just me! If all doctors are required to accept this plan than regardless of what his or her education level or experience is, How interested are they really going to be to see you? Universal Health care is going to leave the rest of us in dire straits should it go nation wide, How can you MANDATORY increase my taxes which WILL lead me straight into foreclosure, Because that is the real truth behind this mandatory universal plan. How can you tell me what doctors I can see to use my universal health insurance,where I currently pay for my health insurance and can go where I choose even if it is expensive.Perhaps we should accept paying a higher fee for quality health care and consider not having to have a new care or going out to restaurant to eat most of our meals. I look forward to the new election year ahead for all of us, as I intend to be a stronger participant than ever before. Norma Sevold Arvada, CO.
Posted by:Norma SevoldJuly 1, 2007 8:00:42 AMRespond ^
Hoooooray!!! This country, the "Good old US of A", needs more people like Michael Moore.
Posted by:Lorraine A. BartleyJuly 1, 2007 8:04:58 AMRespond ^
IFIND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE OF A LOWER INCOME THAT HAVE NO HEALTH CAREBENEFITS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRYBUT THEIR TAX DEDUCTIONS CAN GO TOA FOREIGN COUNTRY SUCH AS IRAQ TO HELP FUND THEIR HEALTHCARE AND REBUILD THEIR COUNTRY IT MAKES NO SENSE .
Posted by:KEITHSHAWJuly 1, 2007 8:08:03 AMRespond ^
Most cult-like Conservative Minions will never watch movie cause their revered political talk show hosts will tell them it is a bad movie.
Posted by:Sick RickJuly 1, 2007 8:18:01 AMRespond ^
"This will end up like all the rest of Michael Moores films. He will make a lot of money of it but it won't help change a thing." And whose fault is that? If our society chooses to ignore the major flaws in the American healthcare industry and fails to act, it's certainly not Moore's fault. It's yours.
Posted by:barbJuly 1, 2007 9:35:40 AMRespond ^
"If not what kind of doctors will the government be forcing us to select and If all doctors will be required to accept this insurance than at what percent of their practice will suffer? Why, Should we care? well I prefer a well educated doctor to the cracker box version, but maybe thats just me! If all doctors are required to accept this plan than regardless of what his or her education level or experience is, How interested are they really going to be to see you?" Typical comment from a fellow American. How insulting to the entire medical profession. Do you read what you write? You are saying physicians are only in health care for the money. I have met many world class ones, and those are typically the ones who feel the most strongly about universal health care. There has never been any discussion in this thread about which physicians you can see under a one payer system (unlike with our current HMO system). You are part of the problem if you are serious. We can work together for a one payer system. Forget Michael Moore, if he is so offensive to you. Think about your own self interest. Think about your fellow American. Think! Think! Think! We need to do this for ourselves; there are too many people needlessly dying....where did your compassion go?
Posted by:IkiraJuly 1, 2007 10:33:38 AMRespond ^
Michael Moore, as usual, effectively demonstrates that the most effective way to lie to the masses is to tell a small part of the truth and ignore any bits (or the majority) of reality which would undermine his thesis. He finds a handfull of egregious examples of problems in the US system and portrays them as the norm. Most Americans, liberal or conservative are simply too lazy to investigate the facts of an issue, no matter how simple it is now with the internet. Does our healthcare system now have major problems? yes Are the single-payer systems of Canada and Western Europe in better shape? not really. All of those nations have a tax system which would give most Americans a coronary to consider; and despite that degree of funding, are driving their respective nations into astronomical degrees of debt, due to their health care systems. Despite a degree of rationing of healthcare that would infuriate any American. Entire provinces of Canada have been known to shut down all non-emergent medical services for the last several months of a fiscal year because they have run out of money to pay for it. I would encourage all to view another documentary called "Dead Meat" reviewing the Canadian system. the Canadians interviewed in this film will certainly give a different view of the system they have to live with than the Candyland world espoused by Moore. Or read Kurt Loder's editorial of "Sicko" on MTV.com The governments of all nations with socialized medicine are trying desperately to curtail benefits prior to the baby boomers (a western worldwide phenomenon) hitting the age of peak demand for medical services. France, held up by Moore as the ideal system for subsidizing in home laundry service and unlimited disability pay for minor medical problems just swept Sarkozy into office primarily on a promise to curtail the waste and abuse in their medical system. Norway being a notable exception as they are a tiny population subsidized by huge oil fields in the North Sea. Use the internet to actually retrieve facts about single-payer systems and how health care is rationed rather than just re-reading each others self congratulatory blogs about the righteousness of your own conservative or liberal agenda. You might find some surprises. You might even start to think instead of bleat.
Posted by:teekayflJuly 1, 2007 12:10:38 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore is a disgrace. He movie is full of lies...he profits by decieving the American public. US has the best healthcare system in the world. Want a change? What are we willing to give up? Americans want it faster, better and cheaper. Not going to happen. Go ahead...move to Canada and wait 6 months for an MRI. In the US...you can have one this afternoon that could save your life. Bottom Line: DO NOT SUPPORT MOORE!
Posted by:DavidJuly 1, 2007 1:08:22 PMRespond ^
I'm a liberal myself but I refuse to see any of Michael Moore's films because they all seem super-biased. If we don't want the uptight conservatives laying on their biases than we can't have Moore running around pulling the same stuff.
Posted by:spencerJuly 1, 2007 1:21:42 PMRespond ^
Thus, our nation is no longer # 1 in any area. We let our own citizens die for no other reason than big business wanting more money. Shame on us!!!!!!!
Posted by:Linda M SpreackerJuly 1, 2007 2:58:57 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore is a disgrace. He movie is full of lies...he profits by decieving the American public. US has the best healthcare system in the world. Want a change? What are we willing to give up? Americans want it faster, better and cheaper. Not going to happen. Go ahead...move to Canada and wait 6 months for an MRI. In the US...you can have one this afternoon that could save your life. Bottom Line: DO NOT SUPPORT MOORE!
Posted by:DavidJuly 1, 2007 4:26:47 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore is a master of one sided propaganda. To call his latest work a documentary is to betray your own profound ignorance.
Posted by:Micky MoenJuly 1, 2007 5:51:11 PMRespond ^
Have not seen film. But one should understand that you can not separate culture from medicine. United States where employees have little or no rights and is controlled by the "At will law" and where employees in France are impowered. Show that that France rates first in health care where United States among the major nations come in 37 or really last. Shows the problem as impowerment. Where the average U.S. citizen has little freedom and power and lives in a corporate state that really controls things. In order to have a better health care system you need to reform not the health care system but the power that exists of the corporation. Those running for office are simply going to bypass th real problem since the money they get is from the corporations which drive the system. People do not really drive this system unless they are rich with lots of money which is not what the average person is. Don't see any poor person running for president. Only the elite and the one with the most money backing may end up president. So think in terms of culture and health care.
Posted by:Arthur GittlemanJuly 1, 2007 8:44:59 PMRespond ^
Our health care system in Canada is not perfect. It benefits mostly the poor and the immigrants abusive of the system. Honest Canadians pay up to 35% income tax rate on incomes to finance social programs such as health care. Also, we still get taxed for whatever's left over (14% goods and services tax and 1.5% property tax rate). The universal system in Canada is being abused by immigrants. They come here to get their health card, go back to wherever they came from and if they need any surgery, come back to Canada. The point that I try to make is Moore's Sicko is completely biased. Yes, in Canada, health services are free and you will get treatment regardless of your status. However, the bad side is how about waiting for up to 10 hours to get immediate medical attention in the ER? I do not know your system in the States so I cannot really compare. I was in the ER 6 months ago for chest pains. Unless you're dying, you will be bumped and make to wait by people who needs immediate medical attention such as people who have been shot or anyone bleeding to death. I waited for 10 hours before I could be serviced. I'm pretty sure Western Europeans have the same problems with their health care systems. I guess if it helps your government take action on this issue, why not butter things up, right Michael Moore? However, I'm satisfied with the universal health care system in Canada but it needs to be controlled. I will not bore you of potential solutions that could be done because this problem doesn't affect you, but the main problems come from immigrants new to the country. Canada is known for its tolerance on other cultures but it needs to stand up and stop the abuses that it receives from immigrants. Good luck with your health care reforms.
Posted by:Mike, CanadaJuly 1, 2007 9:19:03 PMRespond ^
Well, I've seen the movie. Maybe nothing will change for the better as a result of SICKO... But then again, it MIGHT!
Posted by:Steve from ScottsdaleJuly 2, 2007 12:25:18 AMRespond ^
Why I AM QUITTING UNITED HEALTCARE VIA TELETECH. Posted in Uncategorized by chrisbradley on the July 2nd, 2007 I was invited back to work after re-applying for my third time with teletech since 2001 when they destroyed my career the first time by laying me off indefinitely. Screw me once. I’m stupid, Screw me twice, not a [deleted]ing chance. So I went to work for them, I took their INSURANCE job which they claimed paid $12.50 an hour. I even got my friend hired there for a supposed $200.00 bonus that I will now never see. They told me after I left the interview that it would be $8.75 to start (via e-mail) and then $12.50 if I passed a State Licensing Exam. So fine. I attended their classes on their campus (if you can call their 4 training rooms a campus). And I went on the allotted time to http://www.prometric.com to pass the STATE INSURANCE LICENSING EXAM for New York. I PASSED THE EXAM by 2 points. Its not much, but for a week’s training, 2 points is a lot. In any Case. I am a CERTIFIED NYSTATE INS. Salesperson. That means I am subject to all of the laws and regulations of NY correct? Well - What we find out in Week 2 is that we will be CANVASSING 40 states within a week. Supposedly this is legal because “NY HAS THE TOUGHEST INSURANCE LAWS.” Whatever, put it in writing and show me my cards? No. Worse yet. I am one of 15 on my team, 5 of whom actually passed the test. Which means 66% of the agents canvassing don’t have licenses for the states we are canvassing by Telephone. So I canvas for a week - asking about 200 people whether they have Medicare A and B and then whether they have “END STAGE RENAL DISEASE” which is apparently DISQUALIFYING ELDERLY NEEDY PEOPLE from their Insurance plans which are designed for ELDERLY NEEDY PEOPLE. I MADE GOAL EVERY DAY THAT I WAS ABLE TO - when their Systems worked which they don’t. They use a mix of Crippled Citrix (A microsoft Legacy Tool) for their e-sales database and CRM - and they use ORACLE to keep track of pay so that there are No Printable copies of pay records for their employees. Their phone records are all kept in South America so apparently the laws are fast and loose there with US GOVERNMENT DATA. And their DATA BASES ARE Highly innacurate. Agents calling out have been instructed to leave phone numbers with Children for their Medicare Recipient Elders to call back. I’m surprised we weren’t instructed to request information about END STAGE RENAL DISEASE from them…
Posted by:Chris BradleyJuly 2, 2007 3:13:50 AMRespond ^
When in the United States did we become a people with such low aim? We keep setting the bar lower and lower. Will it cost money to set a new global standard for healthcare and the practice of medicine? Duh.We americans love to spend the self indulgent dollar but a buck or two for the "undeserving" forget it. Politicians and industry need to understand some things are far more important than money. Good health needs to be at the top of everyones list.
Posted by:NielJuly 2, 2007 4:46:26 AMRespond ^
An emotional issue within the US causeing people look at think about and take notice of an important and trouble ridden componant of our lives, and to speak via technology that is another important and trouble ridden componant of our lives. Moore's gotten it, not with all the answers but with the ability to hit on emotion in a numb populas that will continue to be dumbed down by govenment and media. It will only be the people that will bring about change,I don't know if we are capable of change in the 21st century of this United States.
Posted by:CatherineJuly 2, 2007 7:08:35 AMRespond ^
Just the facts: - Europe and Canada have BETTER health care outcomes - Europe and Canada do NOT have long waiting lines to visit a doctor - Europe and Canada do not spend 20-30% of TOTAL MEDICAL costs on "overhead" - And if you are still against a single-payer system, please lobby washington to abolish Medicare. What we all need is Medicare for all, not just the over-65. 'nuff said
Posted by:JSJuly 2, 2007 11:30:07 AMRespond ^
I have not seen the film yet, but I doubt that Mr. Moore even got to the heart of how corrupt the insurance system is. I work in health care and believe that at least half the cost of health care is wasted on insurance infastructor, payroll, for employees to deny claimsand other non health care related items. Dr.now need to hire entire staffs to try and collect fund owed by insurance companies. The insurance industory denies claims and keeps deneying them as many times as they can in order to delay payment. Last year the Blues in our area assigned out of network Drs. pin numbers but did not let them know they had a number thereby denying claims on all out of network Drs. for many months. They also asked for money back from Drs. who gave care, got the patients well, and dscharged them by calling for retro-active audits. These audits found no fraud but said they didn't like the Dr.'s notes and asked for 7 years back payment on a presentage of the practice. All of this and we pay hugh amounts for insurance coverage.
Posted by:lynne cohenJuly 2, 2007 11:56:55 AMRespond ^
I am living in Prague, having coped for years with the U.S. health insurance system. Wow! For about $50 a month and a few tiny copayments ($1 at most) on some prescriptions, I get excellent care. Also got free emergency care in Germany last year on the same health card. Unfortunately, the American neo-con "advisors" are pushing the privatization of hospitals, insurance, and doctors' clinics. WHY don't the Czechs look to Canada, France, or Sweden instead of the U.S.? Promises of big bucks?? Don't understand it.
Posted by:LipaJuly 2, 2007 12:02:12 PMRespond ^
I see better healthcare options due to Moore's film. Affirm the best!
Posted by:Beau's MomJuly 2, 2007 12:07:10 PMRespond ^
I saw the movie, unlike a lot of the critics of Michael Moore. I think Mr. Moore is right about everything. We need universal health care now, like in Canada and the UK and France, etc. There is simply no reason not to have a system that takes care of us--those who supposedly govern ourselves, but instead of demanding a better system we have given up our power to have the same health care as our legislators.
Posted by:JerryJuly 2, 2007 12:09:33 PMRespond ^
Whatever the movie portrays it has the right message in health care reform. Most middle aged, middle income people in this country will not be able to afford health care in retirement. Most corporations (to boost profits) have eliminated retirement health car as well as pensions. What this leaves the average Joe who has worked for 30 to 40 years is little chance to enjoy any sort of retirement. It is a shame that we allow our corporations to run the country. At some point corporate and corporate executive greed will have to be replaced by a sense of nationalism and morality in order to solve problems such as this. The movie only gets us to think and hopefully act on our beliefs. I am an independent (leaning towards the libertarian beliefs), but I commend anybody who is brave enough to buck the system. We need a lot of things fixed in this country and I put Health Care, Immigration and Government Fleecing at the top.
Posted by:mark andersonJuly 2, 2007 12:12:47 PMRespond ^
the film will help to create interest in the universal health care, but we really need to inform all the people about how the change might take place. example: first, supporting a presidential candidate that will institute the change. Second, voting in a house and senate that would be able to push foward the bill created without trimming the key issues that are needed for universal health care. third, making sure that the information doesn't get washed out by special interest groups trying to mislead the people through tv commercials/ads. Most people may not understand enough to be truly informed. if the average person even with insurance knew how misleading the hmo's are we really might have change.
Posted by:francis chavezJuly 2, 2007 12:18:58 PMRespond ^
What absolute swill! This guy is a self serving shyster.
Posted by:MaxJuly 2, 2007 12:32:40 PMRespond ^
As an Economics major, I am often amazed that people have such faith in capitalism as a social lever. It was never intended to be an equitable social arrangement and to think it is the political answer to very real problems in a relative affluent (tilted toward the top as capitalism would have it) society. This is about the same logic that FOJ (Friends of Jesus, the man who spent his career helping the poor) get into when they think that conservative politics and Jesus play together.
Posted by:Gary E.July 2, 2007 12:40:38 PMRespond ^
If USA can sink 300 billion dollars into Iraq, it can certainly provide free universal coverage for all its citizens.
Posted by:plavnostruevJuly 2, 2007 12:41:17 PMRespond ^
I don't know anything about the health care system. All I know is when I was a little I couldn't go to the doctor because we didn't have insurance, and now that we do we still can't afford to go to the doctor. So why does my Mom pay a bunch out of her paycheck for insurance but I haven't been to the doc since I was 10? I want to move to Canada......
Posted by:KatieJuly 2, 2007 12:48:20 PMRespond ^
Of course this film is controversial and agrandizing ... people wouldn't watch it if it wasn't! The real problems is that what's wrong with this country began around Reagan or so, when we saw the largest single upwards movement of $$$$$ in the history of America ... and that trend is still continuing. We are becoming a country of the Haves and Have-Nots, and the Haves are doing this on purpose. Mergers and buyouts only profit a few elite people ... the rest of us pay, literally, either with our jobs, or with our workloads doubled (or more)! Cars that run on anything but gas ... those patents are bought up by big oil and/or the auto makers. Gas prices going through the roof. Areas post-Katrina that still look like they've been bombed out. Iraq, a president who lies about anything and everything. This country is being SOLD out by ugly Americans interested *only* in profiteering from America's suffering. If we really want to change that, we have got to each do whatever we can to end the tyranny of the rich in this country. We take care of the rich money-grubbers stealing from America and the rest will fall into place very quickly. HealthCARE needs to become just that - NOT a money-making enterprise, but one that FIRST, DOES NO HARM.
Posted by:SamJuly 2, 2007 12:50:57 PMRespond ^
It's all about the money big corporations make and nothing else.They don't give a rat's ass about the american people.Free universal health care in america???...we're kidding ourselves.
Posted by:LinuxitproJuly 2, 2007 1:12:13 PMRespond ^
I have a suggestion. Why not have Hillary Clinton and Obama use some of their campaign contribution money to help this cause? The health industry is such a SCAM.
Posted by:ConnieJuly 2, 2007 1:21:06 PMRespond ^
I would think that even doctors would want a single payer system. My doctor used to close her practice at noon on Fridays. Now she closes it the whole day. When I asked her about her change in hours, she said it takes her a whole day just to do the paperwork for the insurance companies.
Posted by:BillJuly 2, 2007 1:40:53 PMRespond ^
As a physician who was involved with a physician - private corporation ownership of a private hospital I watched the rates rise astronomically in 5 years and continued to skyrocket as an off the top percentage went to corporate offices and then an additional percentage designated for 'profit'. The same situation exists with the participation of private insurers - the government had to pay them an additional more than 10% to cover their 'overhead' above what is expended in the government run medicare system. Many private insurers run at about 15% overhead compared with 3% for medicare. That is an unconsionable amount of money that is siphoned away from actual dollars spent on direct care for the sick. Over the past 4 decades - along with a growing number of physicians - I have come to believe as apparently does Mr. Moore that like the police and fire services, profit has no place in the health care system. I see comments about how other countries with single payor coverage RATION CARE. So does Oregon - and so do all insurers. The fact is that there is not enough money in the GDP to pay for everything that can be treated. We in the USA have promulgated the fantasy that we who are insured are fully covered. The reviews for 'MEDICAL NECESSITY' are the hidden rationing devices in our system - and the obvious rationing by which only a portion of our population are covered - they are 'rationed' out of the system. In order to have a coherent approach to health care as a nation we must accept the reality of limits to what we can afford. At least we could do this honestly and directly as in those systems criticized for this approach. If this reality of limits is not confronted directly there is no possibility of finding a solution to this national shame.
Posted by:EricJuly 2, 2007 1:47:58 PMRespond ^
If the purpose of the film is to effect health care reform, that's one thing. But I have news for you: there is no such thing as the tooth fairy or santa claus. One of the few ways to worsen health care is to have it government funded or subsidised. The HMOs were to improve care and reduce costs. They have had the opposite effect. How about instead of insuring things like perscriptions and doctor visits, you insure against catastrophe as someone else said? Insurance is supposed to make financial sense-- you do it to cover costs you can't afford to incur. If the costs of drugs and doctor visits REALLY need to be covered by insurance, then they are WAY too high.
Posted by:EricJuly 2, 2007 2:13:28 PMRespond ^
Universal health care will lead to universal lousy care. There is a reason the richest people from these countires come to America for major surgery, because when it is free, it is crap. Go to New Zeland and see how they stich you after a major cut, horrible scaring, but hell, its free horrible scaring.
Posted by:MikeJuly 2, 2007 2:26:47 PMRespond ^
HMO and Managed Care oriented healthcare delivery is the ultimate curse of American Medicine and if the public outcry reaches the halls of the Congress and White House in a clear and loud message, all the lobbies and corporate donations must not be made to stand in the way of the wills of we the people !
Posted by:K.S.RajanJuly 2, 2007 3:13:07 PMRespond ^
It's easy to talk and to pick and choose and cause chaos. We know about the health system. Why doesn't Moore make documents on solutions. By the way, what kind of insurance does he have??? Why doesn't he expose the Insurance industries. Perhaps the Insurance industries invested in his films. Sure don't need for the govenment to start butting in on the private interprise.
Posted by:JoyJuly 2, 2007 3:20:17 PMRespond ^
A movie for everyone to see. Our health care cannnot be for profit any more, it's hurting everyone. ps. we all want to move to france now.
Posted by:merry LewersJuly 2, 2007 3:26:45 PMRespond ^
To Dr. Hedlesky looking for solutions from Michael Moore. The transfer of responsiblity for the delivery of healthcare in this country to the HMOs did not magically occur. It was freely given by the physicians who were promised a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in return for their licenses to practice medicine. When the gold turned into lead, it was too late to remedy their egregious error in judgment. Physicians should stop blaming HMOs and Lawyers for their difficulties. They should do what they need to take back the practice of medicine and tell the HMOs to take a hike. As regards changing the legal environment, may I suggest that there are several alternative insurance and risk management programs available to assist physicians in taking on the Lawyers.
Posted by:Ted HallJuly 2, 2007 3:30:05 PMRespond ^
Sicko has made Moore a real HERO. He obviously put caring into ACTION by doing this film. Where are all the other so-called heroes? Not in office, that's for sure. Certainly not working with the FDA.
Posted by:Lara LoveJuly 2, 2007 3:50:40 PMRespond ^
keep it going the system is so broken those currently making a living in the field can't see it. my experience includes 45 years worth and it is'nt getting better consumer beware
Posted by:retired RNJuly 2, 2007 3:56:32 PMRespond ^
You worked hard all your lives. Suddenly, you lost your job. No job, no health insurance. Visit Martin Luther King Hospital in Los Angeles, you will witness the reality and cruelty of our health system.
Posted by:CarlosJuly 2, 2007 4:05:28 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore does not address the entire problem at all. Health care cost continue to increase every year by nearly 20%. yet Hospitals are going broke. It is against the law to deny health care to anyone who seeks it. The people that don't have health insurance get the same and sometimes better care than the people that do. We have illeagal imigrants flooding our hospitals emergency rooms and never pay a nickle. We have people on welfare and unemployment going to hospitals for treatment and walk away without a worry, free, no charge. and the hospitals over inflate the bills for the insured and raise the prices for those who have health care in order to off set the losses and write offs. in turn the insurance companies raise the health care premiums.If we had generalized health care we would never see a doctor because we would be in line behind the illegal aliens and the people on welfare who would continue to abuse the system just as they do today. Michael Moore is complete [deleted] and he should move to Cuba.
Posted by:Dido KarpunctulowskiJuly 2, 2007 4:08:38 PMRespond ^
I was interested in the comments about waiting times in UK and Canada. This is from the Washington Post today: A tripling of British government spending on health care in over the last decade to $187 billion, has meant that patients are treated quicker. In the late 1990s, they routinely waited six months or more for nonessential operations. That wait has now dropped to about six weeks. If I find evidence to the contrary, I will post that too.
Posted by:CameronJuly 2, 2007 4:23:57 PMRespond ^
The healthcare industry is way overpriced but the recipients also are to blame. Too many people abuse the system either through intent or for obsessive abuse.
Posted by:Al CohenJuly 2, 2007 5:05:56 PMRespond ^
Our policies vis a vis health care are nothing more than wasteful and stupid. What company can expect to receive money for services that they decide not to provide. We must be nuts to let this go on. Also, consider that every insurence policy that we buy to protect us against claims for injury and loss has a medical component that makes our premiums very expensive. If we had single payer health care protection we would only have to insure against actual property damage and our costs would be significantly lower. Why pay twice for something ? Good hEALTH CARE, nutrition, etc would make our country a stronger nation and if we improve our education system than we won't have to run around the world looking for skelled workers all over the world. Sometimes, I feel like we are suckers and just getting taken by our leaders everyday of the week. Tell me how I am wrong. I hope you can.
Posted by:ruth rosenJuly 3, 2007 2:10:14 AMRespond ^
Hey celebrate Moore's capitalism! Even he knows this is the best healthcare system in the world. Nothing compares to this...& in the end...you know what?...people do get sick & die...thanks to his propaganda we will have less interest in medicine (It;s just too costly to become physicians) Hey Ameica travel elsewhere to get your healthcare...Have fun!
Posted by:CarolJuly 3, 2007 7:19:59 AMRespond ^
There is ONE BIG thing we can all do to help turn things around. It won't happen overnight, but it will have an impace. BUY as WISELY as possible. Try to buy locally, from your Mom and Pop stores and etc. Yes, it will cost more to do this, but every time we spend $$, we are casting VERY important votes!!! One BIG benefit of shopping locally as much as possible is that we end up supporting our friends and neighbors and making our neighborhoods a little more neighborly. Then we try to expand to working locally instead of for some profiteering corp that really doesn't give a tinker's damm about any of us, only looking at us as prey to be sucked dry!! Finally, doctors have to start charging AFFORDABLE fees!!! You guys aren't gods or even demi-gods!! You are just people like the rest of us!! Get yourselves OUT of those blood-sucking HMOs and etc and get real in how you treat and charge us mere mortals!! We can turn things around, but we have to ALL do it TOGETHER!!!
Posted by:SamJuly 3, 2007 12:31:29 PMRespond ^
Michael Moore gives us hope with his film 'Sicko' that maybe it is possible to have a universal healthcare program. Other countries do it, why not us. Yet so many of us separate ourselves from the government...saying our government always manages to somehow mess things up. Our government is a reflection of all of us, we elected the people in office. If we dont like what is going on, WE all need to stand up and make changes. WE are the government. Its not us against them.
Posted by:BWJuly 4, 2007 1:41:12 PMRespond ^
im looking forward to the film...also please stop talking in 1337 (leet)
Posted by:jakeJuly 4, 2007 2:43:04 PMRespond ^
To me one main problem of Michael Moore, and liberal and conservative American politics in general is the usually very strongly biased and black and white view of everything. "We the good, they the bad", on and on and on and on... Nothing is likely to change in the US domestic (or foreign) politics when two stubborn parties just concentrate on fighting each other endlessly instead of just concentrating on really improving things. It seems that - what ever the political view - the ploticians care for their own asses and political and other benefits more than they care for, say, publich health. Maybe there should be a true multi-party system in US politics before democracy truly worked in the USA too? Nowadays the USA is certainly very far from being an ideal example of democracy, regardless of who is in charge there, democrats or republicans. For God's sake, just forget the very abstract and vague concepts of "left" and "right" and "liberals" and "conservatives" for a moment. Just concentrate on doing good things, together. Impossible? If it is really impossible for the Americans to learn to do simple cooperation, instead of endless fighting against this or that imaginary enemy, maybe America needs to face some really drastic inner catastrophes before people learn to stand together again, supporting and understanding each other, despite the political block they used to belong to?
Posted by:foreignerJuly 4, 2007 3:31:50 PMRespond ^
As an Australian with a universal tax funded health system I once described it to a guy from Detroit who had sold his house to fund a heart operation, his response; "too socialistic", go figure.
Posted by:David SheehanJuly 5, 2007 3:21:42 AMRespond ^
David, maybe it is the NIH ("not invented here") phenomenon? So maybe Americans are just all too stubborn to accept and even understand that they could actually learn something from others, and that things, indeed, ARE a lot better (for example) in health care almost anywhere else in the western world than in the USA. But no worries, fortunately Americans have their precious right to carry all their personal guns, so at least they can defend themselves against all us difficult to understand foreigners, or if none are present, at least happily kill each other while waiting. Sicko indeed...
Posted by:foreignerJuly 6, 2007 9:49:41 AMRespond ^
Saw the movie last night, and he is accurate with his exposure of the problems. He does, however, go pretty easy on the doctors themselves. They are just as much to blame as the insurance companies are. Any philanthropy they had was replaced with love of high income. We've heard their claims of just following orders, or simply doing what they were told before, at Nuremburg. It didn't help those fellow shed any guilt then and it should not help doctors shed any now. Profiting at the expense of their fellow countrymen, how disresepectful. There was a time when such people were executed for placing profit ahead of responsibility--but those days have long since passed.
Posted by:JimJuly 6, 2007 3:23:12 PMRespond ^
Far from perfect as it may be, when wealthy people from the globe's farthest reaches become seriously ill, they come to America to get well.
Posted by:*62July 6, 2007 5:10:16 PMRespond ^
All the nay-sayers have it wrong. The problems associated with Universal Health Care are not insurmountable and in any case, I have to believe the benefits outweigh them by a hefty margin. You're United States of America for God's sake. Work it out. The other fallacy is that any proposed system be perfect, pretty much condemning it for eternity. It doesn't have to be perfect. It does have to a work in progress, continually striving to better itself. What we in the rest of the world thought America was about in the first place. Oh boy.
Posted by:Rich AkersJuly 7, 2007 10:55:29 PMRespond ^
the point he made about how the french gov fears the people and how the us people fears the gov tells it all.Where is the rage?!
Posted by:michaelJuly 8, 2007 1:17:15 PMRespond ^
"...when wealthy people from the globe's farthest reaches become seriously ill, they come to America to get well." That's not true at all. Medical science and care is often much more advanced in other parts of the world: Europe, Japan, Australia, Russia etc. It is just one of the myths held in the USA that it would be the most advanced country in health care and what not. Sure, US may have more money that most, but that's it, and the wealth in the USA is mostly held by few priviledged hands, in other words the USA is an undemocratic plutocracy.
Posted by:foreignerJuly 9, 2007 2:51:00 PMRespond ^
Bravo to Michael Moore for putting this issue in the face of our politicians and all viewers. However I don't believe many people went in totally unaware...After my husband and I watched Sicko we came out of the theater shaking our heads. Generally Americans are slaves to insurmountable debt; healthcare bills are second to credit cards. We know many people who work two jobs and have no strength to organize a protest. Our rich politicians have no desire to become poorer. We have family members who are doctors and nurses and they would never be willing to work for less or sacrifice their huge homes, lavish vacations, or in any way live a modest life like people in other countries. Americans in general are not inclined to be content with less of anything. As I see it until compassion and sharing overpower our greed nobody's movie can change a thing.
Posted by:pamrossini@comcast.netJuly 9, 2007 3:34:40 PMRespond ^
I'm Canadian and thus far, have had pretty good experiences with our healthcare system. For the Americans discussing this with friends and family, please note the following points: 1. It's not actually a single payer system; more-of-a -main-player-with-enough-lever age-to-negotiate-and-contain-c osts-within-a-mix-of-non-profit-pub lic-corporations-and-for-profit-partnerships-system. While the provincial plans pay for most medical care, their lists of covered care vary from province to province... and from age group to age group. Doctors appointments, specialist referrals, tests and in-hospital medications are covered. Drugs, dental (unless it is major dental surgery in hospital), in some provinces, eye exams, physiotherapy without a physician referral, orthodics home care aids and a lot of chiropractic care are not. Most individuals top up their coverage with private insurance (usually as part of their benefits package) for items not covered under the provincial plan through work, school or professional associations. Additional drug coverage is provided for children under 18 who;s parents are on social assistance and for low income seniors. The hospitals are public non-profit institutions, as are some clinics. But others (such as many fertility clinics) are businesses run by medical partners to provide provincial health plan billable services along side services that must be paid for privately. While the provincial plans provide most coverage, other treatment payment options exist in Workman's Compensation coverage (comprehensive coverage for drugs and treatment required to deal with workplace injuries, which is paid for by employer premiums) the national Department of National Defense system for the military and private facilities engaged by large employers to do job related medical screening and evaluations. So, it is not simple, nor is it Big Brother. It's an ever-evolving mix of services, started up by interested and engaged people attempting to address the society's needs in a reasonable , fair manner. It ain't perfect, but most people are really trying to make it better as we go along. Getting more effective bang for the buck is a pretty high priority. It's happening through discussion, breaking down of "interest silo" walls, working out new models of care delivery (I'm a long time patient at a family clinic that converted over to rostered care about two years ago) home care delivery and debating how we can influence behaviour.
Posted by:VelochicdunordJuly 10, 2007 8:58:11 AMRespond ^
WE NEED MORE MICHAEL MOORES IN THIS WORLD. I'M STILL SHOCKED AT THE AMOUNT OF AMERICANS COMPLETELY IGNORANT TO THIS PROBLEM. I HAVE INSURANCE AND CANNOT GET AN MRI FOR AT LEAST 7 MONTHS UNTIL MY MD HAS EXHAUSTED EVERYTHING ELSE. 7 MONTHS LATER THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT WE AS A NATION FINALLY WAKE UP FROM OUR LONG SLEEP AND TAKE TO THE STREETS.
Posted by:MARLENE TAUBERJuly 10, 2007 9:53:08 AMRespond ^
Apparently our author has some unsavory history with MM, his disdain is worn on sleeve, or is that his keyboard? Why knock him so hard? Aren't you supposed to be part of the progressive media? Why is a single payer system impossible? We are spending $12B/month on this travesty of a war, killing other people's children instead of making ours well. The point the film made very well was that our civil servants have institutionalized the rape and pillaging of the American public for the benefit of the corporations that own them, which is true for both parties. There is no safety net in place, the well being and prosperity of our citizenry isn't a priority of those in power who are supposedly working for us. The French guy summed it up best when he said in France the politicians are afraid of the public and in the United Statges it is the public that is afraid of the government. Democracy requires participation. Every citizen has a vote, rich or poor, it is their right and responsibility to use it, Diebold can't possibly erase them ALL out. I hope everyone gets as gets pissed off as I was that our government is merely a conduit for corporate welfare and abuse at our expense. That anger can be very motivating, waking the sleeping giant that is us. This is not a conservative vs. liberal issue, it is a human rights issue. Impeachment is a good start. As is Cindy Sheehan's threat to run against Nancy Pelosi if she does not announce troop withdrawal from Iraq, the promise that put the Democrats in office. The money HAS to be taken out of the the political system. The big pharma companies literally purchased their prescription drug bill from our public servants who had the power to sell us down the river. We have lost so much since GW has stolen office and we each, individually, have to believe that collectively we can regain the fragile ideals of a truly Democratic system and become inspired or angry enough to take action. I found the film very effective and am grateful to Michael Moore for making it.
Posted by:Gianni OrtizJuly 10, 2007 11:24:33 AMRespond ^
Saw it, loved it, invited my whole church to come see it with me again. 6 showed up. I keep preaching to everyone: This is a must see.
Posted by:Dorianne KillionJuly 10, 2007 9:58:09 PMRespond ^
Who's this reviewer Cameron Scott? If Mother Jones herself made a movie, he'd probably treat her with the same disdain. And he's suppose to be a progressive? What has he done for health care lately? Moore has done a public service by helping to focus people's attention on health care in an entertaining yet compassionate way. He alone cannot solve the health care problem in the US. That's up to all of us.
Posted by:MarieJuly 10, 2007 11:58:32 PMRespond ^
We still have the images of the government run rescue operation during Katrina. Do we really want the provision of health care determined by GOP cronies [they will get back in power and there is no shortage of GW clones in that party].
Posted by:JT BarrieJuly 11, 2007 6:40:35 AMRespond ^
Is there a will? It will change our character. If you look at the top 25 countries in terms of GDP and measures of public health there is no correlation between money spent and outcomes. There is DIRECT correlation between the healthiest to least healthy and the disparity of income. That is, the countries with the highest disparity of income(have's vs. have nots) have the poorest measures of public health. But this is America. We all want the opportunity to 'strike it rich'. To be a "healthier" nation we will have to be willing to give up a part of the American Dream; that part that says, someday I can be stinking rich if I just work hard enough.
Posted by:Ddx:dxJuly 11, 2007 4:05:13 PMRespond ^
Sicko's slick lies: http://alumni.berkeley.edu/california/web/20070724_sicko.asp
Posted by:Kerry TremainJuly 24, 2007 4:03:13 PMRespond ^
I saw the film and I thought it was the best documentary he's made thus far. Sure there was a bit of performance involved, but people please, our political "leaders" take the cake when it comes to performance. If Moore does nothing but cash in on this, at least he got some people thinking about healthcare and hopefully inspired some who know the government must be controlled by the people instead of talking about Paris Hilton. The US is being destroyed by profit mongers, not by terrorists, look at how most people live here in the "free" world? A world were nothing is free, where we are lulled into submission by a shameful educational system, designed to churn out fearful obedient people, by a Manifest Destiny style of rhetoric that is used to rob us of our humanity, and an economic system that barely attempts to disguise itself as a political system. If you're not outraged, then you're probably just too comfortable, for now.
Posted by:Rahel NegusseJuly 27, 2007 7:08:09 PMRespond ^
i am a american .69 years old /two major heartattacts paid in s.s.and fica tax all mylife /and now it is sold out to private insurance co.all i can say thanks to the president i afighting to see a doctor and get my pricptions filled all under his plan .so he can have oiil wars.
Posted by:callie mooreAugust 6, 2007 5:25:14 PMRespond ^
"France, held up by Moore as the ideal system for subsidizing in home laundry service and unlimited disability pay for minor medical problems just swept Sarkozy into office primarily on a promise to curtail the waste and abuse in their medical system." Totally false. You obviously have not followed the election issues. Sarkozy was elected * because his opponent was waffling on all issues and seemed to support contradictory platforms * because of his reform proposals (which do not focus on health; they focus on workforce regulations, unemployment insurance, universities, etc.).
Posted by:Fact checkerAugust 14, 2007 7:01:35 AMRespond ^
Have'nt seen the movie yet...however--- have there been any stories done on the continuing rise of c-sections and inductions done in this country? or the routine interventions during birth that lead to a c-section? or the increasing number of women who are having their babies at home rather than dealing with the hospital model of care? (myself included) I was just wondering because I found my old copies of MJ and saw the article "Danger in the Delivery Room". At the time it didn't apply to me because I wasn't a mom yet--now that I am and have seen how the hospital model of care for childbirth works, I'm wondering why are these dangerous practices on the rise. I walked out of my childbirth prep class--they were bragging about being able to get you in for surgery in just 6 minutes! all they focused on was pain management (ie:drugs)and thought it strange I wanted a birth-bar.I found a midwife (illegal in my state) and had my babies at home.I didn't want the eyedrops or PK tests or the vit.K shot or the vaccines and I didn't want an IV "just in case" or being told how I was going to birth MY baby. sorry-got distracted-- was just wondering if people were aware of this.
Posted by:SheilaAugust 15, 2007 12:05:23 PMRespond ^
What SiCKO showed us is that we are wasting lots of money that should be used for health care. It shows how the insurance companies have sold us down the river of greed.
Posted by:sylviaSeptember 4, 2007 2:40:32 PMRespond ^
are you the steve hedlesky that went to NVCC??
Posted by:rebecca riesterOctober 11, 2007 7:05:49 PMRespond ^
Its nice to see Mother Jones doing positive piece on Michael Moore considering the history there
Posted by:museNovember 13, 2007 3:40:56 PMRespond ^
you are well aquainted with anger from what i hear about you on the grape vine.
Posted by:bobDecember 2, 2007 4:35:59 PMRespond ^
All we have to say is that we love you Mike for all that you do and for being a true American !
Posted by:Tom & Wilma WilliamsDecember 12, 2007 1:26:08 AMRespond ^
I love Michael Moore and I loved Sicko. However, this "mass appeal" will once again only be preaching to the choir. I have not yet met one Republican who will voluntarily see a Michael Moore film. They are so dead set against seeing and hearing a viewpoint other than their own that they have made Michael Moore enemy number 2 next to them thar terrorists.
Posted by:CherylDecember 22, 2007 10:25:05 PMRespond ^
Wake up!
Posted by:NormaDecember 26, 2007 3:36:31 PMRespond ^

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