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Cuspers
CUSPERS....Debra Dickerson points to an essay at CNN.com by Marian Salzman about the end of the baby boom era:
After strutting and tub-thumping and preening their way across the high ground of politics, media, culture and finance for 30 years, baby boomers have gone from top dogs to scapegoats in barely a year.
As baby boomers lose their authority and appeal, generational power is shifting one notch down: to cuspers (born roughly 1954-1965), who arrived in style in 2008 with their first truly major figure, Barack Obama (born 1961).
Cuspers! Hooray! I had always thought of myself as a baby boomer and had become resigned to wearing sackcloth and ashes for the rest of my life. But no. As a 1958 baby, I'm a cusper instead, entitled to hold my head high and sneer at baby boomers just like everyone else. I'm relieved.
Of course, you may be wondering why I should trust Marian Salzman on this subject. CNN provides the answer: "She was named among the 'top five trendspotters' by VNU in 2004 and has been credited with popularizing the term 'metrosexuality.'" Works for me! From now on, I'm a cusper. Bye bye, baby boom.
The baby boom generation lasted from 1945-1954. That's a pretty short generation!
I'm a cusper too... and I won't sneer at the term -- I'm relieved that someone has come up with it. I was born in the same year as Barack Obama and I always felt neither Boomer nor X'er. It doesn't seem fair to have missed out on the drugs and easy sex of the sixties and still carry the dreaded 'boomer' label.
A granfalloon.
Easy sex? Hah! Not for everyone.
Now get the f*ck off my lawn.
Wagster: I am only a smidge younger and I always thought we were Generation Jones? But then I was born in 1965, so that means I am at the beginning of generation x, I think. Wait, huh?
I'm so confused. Can someone please decide on a label for me?
So Kevin, if you really like the way Salzman pegs people I presume you are going to be strutting around telling all that you are metrosexual? Gotta get rid of Inky and Domino if you want to keep that image. Oh and you'll have to go out and buy a man purse.
What a bunch of effing hooey. Notice how many cuspers that the commander in chief has appointed to his cabinet and advisory positions? Doesn't look like boomers and their influence are gone yet.
I would feel hurt and abandoned, but the earlier Potter Effect post said you pups don't read much. I was beginning to take all that boomer criticism seriously, but now I realize it is all without substance.
I'm exactly three months younger than Obama. A friend of mine is exactly three months older.
For the rest of eternity I will be able to tell him that means he's over the hill and I'm not.
Ha to you boomers and cuspers:
I'm an outlier. The world needs more outliers. You could be one too. But you'll have to figure out how on your own.
slanted tom:
So when outliers become the majority, will that be the cuspers' last stand?
On a more pedantic note, Salzman needs to look up "cusp" in the dictionary, and get back to us on how a "point" in time can cover 11 years.
Now that you're all enjoying your new, generational moniker, it shouldn't be too long before somebody with a mind (and tongue) a lot sharper than mine comes up with an appropriately snarky variant. Let's get them started, shall we? Hmmm ...let's see... how's about pairing "cusper" with "f*&k"? It might just become the historical term for how you guys end up affecting our country and culture, despite your very best - and fully honorable - intentions.
Thersites, for the purpose of this discussion, let's ignore the outliers.
The census bureau has defined the baby boom as anyone born between 1946 - 1964. Surprise President Obama is a boomer!
See my blog posting about this madness of generational labels- the whole issue is so bad - it's not even wrong; it's worse, it's an indicator of sloppy and lazy generalizations (yet again)
"Don't know Jack Shit about our Generations:
Degenerational Warfare and a Manifesto to End the Jackassery of Cohortism"
uofugeron.wordpress.com
Thanks, Scott D. Wright
Excellent post, Scott Wright. You're pretty bright for a kid.
Seriously, can we stop naming the generations now? Isn't this just about the dumbest thing anybody every thought of? Because, you know, we boomers all chose to be born in the years following WWII, it was a plot, see, to counteract the devious plot of our parents, who stupidly chose to be born during the Great Depression; and then the X'ers and Y'ers and Millennials who plotted against us by being born in their respective decades...
When I was working on the Obama campaign, on election day, a young man sitting across the table from me said that nobody over the age of sixty would vote for a black man because it was a generational thing. I said, there are people over sixty all over this room making calls on Obama's behalf, so what the hell are you talking about?
He said, you're not sixty, are you? And I said, I'm close enough to spit on it, so watch your mouth.
Argh. Enough, already.
Wait--I was born in '63, and the defining quality of my cohort is its PROXIMITY to the Boomers?
Gosh, thanks. That's like being named Time's Neighbor of the Person of the Year.
Generation Jones. The idea has been around for years, Salzman is trying to Bogart someone else's turf. There is a difference - Generation Jones was still playing with Barbie and GI Joe during the Summer of Love. They don't even remember JFK. You really can't lump them in with Boomers because the mentality is completely different.
Like Ron says, the Census definition of the Baby Boom is 1946-64.
Now I can understand that that's a pretty big stretch of time, and I know some people born at the tail end of the boom (including my wife, born in late 1964) don't exactly feel like Boomers. I don't blame them - how are you culturally a Boomer when you weren't even conceived when the Beatles came to America?
But still, the 'cusp' doesn't exactly reach back to 1954, which is the freakin' heart of the baby boom. If it did, then the 1945-54 demigeneration would be the "war baby cuspers" and we'd have defined the Baby Boom right out of existence, which shows just how stupid such a huge 'cusp' is.
Well Kevin, I am surprised. You are not just a cusper, you are the cusper. I also was born in 1958, we're in the same "cohort." I remember when the concept of cohorts (people born the same year) was being popularized along with this cusp concept. The stats showed that 1958 was the smallest cohort of the postwar era. I don't know what happened that year, but hardly anyone was born (compared to the boom years).
Ever since I left college, I've rarely ever met anyone exactly my own age. And when I mean rarely, I mean once. Ever.
Now all we need is a cute name for people born 1946-53, and we can define the baby boom out of existence completely. Problem solved!
The term metrosexual caught my eye so I decided to check the bible, er, uh, wikipedia. Apparently Salzman does not get credit.
Here is an excerpt.
Former Metro Radio presenter Mitch Murray claims that he invented the term in the 1980s. At that time, he says, the word had a very different connotation, as it was simply a play on words involving "Metro Radio" and heterosexuals. Murray would send a weekly tape to the local radio station in Newcastle upon Tyne. "Very early during the process", he created station identification segments, one of which he claims included the phrase "We are the metrosexuals." It is unclear whether the segment was actually broadcast, and there is no documentary evidence of his claims.[3] Also, when the word first became popular, various sources incorrectly attributed its origin to trendspotter Marian Salzman, but by Salzman's own admission[4] Simpson's use of the term in a 1994 Independent newspaper article predates her use of the term.
It's a cool term even if it is for dandy's.
BTW. I was born in 58 and never considered myself a boomer. I'm more of a crooner.
My sister was born in 48, I followed in 51, and my brothers followed in 53 and 55. I can't take seriously the notion that we aren't all part of the same generation.
It might make a difference when your parents were born, or whether they were old enough to serve in WWII, or whether you were old enough to serve in Vietnam. Cultural markers like JFK and the Beatles seem relevant too. (Are you experienced? And have you ever been experienced? Well, I have.)
Of course, you may be wondering why I should trust Marian Salzman on this subject. CNN provides the answer: "She was named among the 'top five trendspotters' by VNU in 2004 and has been credited with popularizing the term 'metrosexuality.'"
In other words, she's this decade's Faith Popcorn. Not sure that's something I'd want on my resume if I wanted people to take me seriously.
'54 is way too early to be on the BB/Gen X cusp. '58 is the earliest edge: if you were 20 in 1978 and listened to Fleetwood Mac or Disco, you're Boomer. If you were into punk, you're cusp.
Great. Just when it was about to be time for Generation X, now ca. 40, to come into our own, we find that the Baby Boomers are passing the power on not to us but to their own younger half, redefined as "cuspers." I guess the cuspers will pass it on to the Millennials. Gen X can never win.
That makes me and my older brother Boomers and our little sister a Cusper. Great--she was hard enough to get along with before. Now she'll hold this over our heads right into the Bide A Wee Nursing Home.
Thersites -thanks for the comment.
Again, I will challenge, retort, debate any so-called reporter who wants to stir up this brainless mess of generational labels -
I have already put the wooden stake into notion - and the silver bullet is on its way to mercifully end the gimmick of ad hoc labels - over and out.
We are talking about my degeneration
thanks - Scott D. Wright
uougeron.wordpress.com
Scott Wright as channeled by Roger Daultry:
Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I was born in 1956 but gimme a break. Where I live in this election cycle baby boomers did as much or more work than any other generation to get our candidates elected. The older hippies are just as dedicated as they've ever been. With the kids grown, out of the house, and being retired or half employed they have more time to devote to the cause. Unless they were actively recruited, pushed by their teachers to participate for extra credit or paid we didn't see many kids until after Labor Day.
Maybe the kids mostly left Illinois to work for the sexier Obama campaign out of state but in our case it was people like me and older who manned most of the phones, marched in the parades and knocked on doors on weekends.
So I guess since I was born in 1954 that means I'm on the cusp between boomers and cuspers. Or whatever.
This business of labeling generations is basically just one more Madison Avenue ploy to brainwash people into buying a lot of crap.
there's no youth culture
only masks they let you rent
-- XTC, "Travels In Nihilon"
Ya know Kevin, MoJo could make tons of money selling viagra, depends, and metamucil in ads on the sides of your blog.
Hurray! Socio-astrology for everyone!
Well now, I'm a boomer when it gets me a discount somewhere, yessir.
I'm a boomer when I'm finally covered under age discrimination.
I am definitely NOT a boomer when they do something stupid.
I'm glad I was born left-handed because almost from the start many of the labels didn't apply to me. I learned from the start I was an outlier - except I never got my lucky break to hit it big. At least not yet. At least I missed the lefty-discrimination of earlier times.
If my 'group' or 'generation' (born in 56, year of the Monkey) must have a label then I suggest something like "supreme sex god." I could live with that.
Ya know Kevin, MoJo could make tons of money selling viagra, depends, and metamucil in ads on the sides of your blog.
Heh heh. She should change her name to "Grandmother Jones."
Baby boomers have always been resented, ridiculed, maligned ... and why? Not because there's anything inherently wrong with us (how can you pigeonhole such a large group of people anyway?), but because there are so damn many of us we have big-footed our way through history. So when we were young and changing society, we were damn hippies; when we got older and made the usual transition to careers and families, we became hated Yuppies; and now that we're graying and near retirement, we're ridiculed for that too. I was born in 1954, but I am not a cusper ... I'm a baby boomer and I have nothing to be ashamed about (as far as that goes, anyway...)
I was born in 1963, I've never identified with "boomer" culture, I grew up in the 70s. Musically, I identify with punk and new wave (aka "gen X"), not the 60s (although I love 60s era music).
Whether the "cuspers" moniker is good, at least we are recognizing the absurdity of the 20 year "boomer" category.
'54 is way too early to be on the BB/Gen X cusp. '58 is the earliest edge: if you were 20 in 1978 and listened to Fleetwood Mac or Disco, you're Boomer. If you were into punk, you're cusp.
Blargh. As someone who was 18 in 1978, I have to say that I'd rather be forced to listen to disco than call myself a "cusper". I belong to the Blank Generation, goddamnit!
20 in 1978 ... Fleetwood Mac ...boomer...punk...cusp
This is where this shit gets downright silly.
I was 29 in 1978, and listening to Fleetwood Mac and punk. What stupid bag are you going to try and stuff me into?
I suspect that this stupid conversation only takes place on political websites. On an arts-related website that I participate in, people in their 70's, teenagers, and everyone in between shares ideas and constructive comments. There are arguments, of course, but people aren't taking sides based on the accident of birth year.
Some being more "accident" than others.
The largest postwar cohort is the 1957 cohort (live births = 4.31 millon), followed by 1959, 1961, 1960 and 1958 (live births = 4.25 million). So Charlie don't surf and Kevin and whoever else was born in 1958 - you are actually part of the 5th largest U.S. population cohort of all time. BTW, the largest "baby boomlet" cohort is 1990 with 4.16 million live births. Source: National Center for Health Statistics.
I was born in 1962 and never felt like a Bomer or an Xer, so I've been glad that our lost generation finally has a name. But not "cuspers"! Ecch. After all these years of being denied a collective name, the last thing we should get is name that defines us by our neighbors, ie. we should be defined by who we are, not who we aren't.
Moot point, since cuspers has never caught on at all, while Generation Jones has already established itself as very popular with a national following. I'm proud of our generation and of the name that emerged for us: Generation Jones.
Google cuspers and you'll see that virtually nobody uses that term for the generation between the Boomers and Xers. Cuspers was proposed as a name for this generation 10 years ago when Boomers and Xers were the two dominant generations, but it never caught on at all, and anyway, doesn't even make sense at this point, since now people between GenX and GenY, and those born between GenY and GenZ, are called cuspers.
By contrast, google the term Generation Jones, and you'll see that it's gained a big national following...it's gotten a ton of media attention, and many top commentators from numerous top publications and networks (New York Times, Time magazine, NBC, Newsweek, ABC, etc.) are specifically referring to Obama, born in 1961, as part of Generation Jones.
As a member of the lost
As a member of the lost generation who graduated from high school in the late 1970's, I always think of our group as more of the "Dazed and Confused" generation.
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