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Will Derivatives Ruin Cap-and-Trade?

Rachel Morris has on online piece today suggesting that the same Wall Street rocket scientists who destroyed the global economy via derivatives trading may be getting ready to do the same thing with carbon permits from a cap-and-trade system.  After all, if they can slice and dice subprime mortgages, why can't they do the same for packages of carbon permits?

I've got a few problems with this, though.  First, there's this:

Cap and trade would create what Commodity Futures Trading commissioner Bart Chilton anticipates as a $2 trillion market, "the biggest of any [commodities] derivatives product in the next five years."

I'm not entirely sure what this means, but my best guess is that Chilton is forecasting a market with a notional value of $400 billion per year.  This is not as large as it sounds.  The notional value of the CDS market in 2007, for example, was over $50 trillion.  Chilton's estimate for the carbon market is less than 1% that size.  Likewise, the underlying value of the actual carbon permits is likely to be on the order of $50-100 billion a year, which is less than 1% of the underlying value of, say, the U.S. stock market.  Even if Wall Street went nuts with this stuff, it couldn't do too much damage.

Then there's this:

In addition to trading the allowances and offsets themselves, participants in carbon markets can also deal in their derivatives — such as futures contracts to deliver a certain number of allowances at an agreed price and time.

This is true, but carbon permits are essentially commodities, and the kinds of derivatives traded on commodity exchanges are generally forwards, futures, and options.  But while these may be derivatives, they're mostly not the rocket science kind.  They've been around forever, they're well understood, and they weren't responsible for any of the problems that caused our current meltdown.

Beyond that, these kinds of derivatives can actually be pretty helpful.  They're generally used for two purposes: (a) managing volatility and (b) speculation.  The first is an unalloyed good thing, since one of the main complaints about a cap-and-trade system is that it doesn't provide investors with a fixed carbon price they can plan around.  Futures contracts help with that.  And speculation, though it often gets a bad rap (sometimes deservedly), can be helpful too if it provides a price signal today for possible permit scarcity tomorrow.  Driving up the price sooner rather than later can actually motivate higher levels of investment in green technology.  (The downside: if Congress bollixes the law and speculators decide that there are going to be loads of permits in the future, they'll drive the price down.  But if Congress screws up that badly, the whole system isn't going to work worth a damn anyway.)

Finally, there's this:

Perhaps the biggest uncertainty hinges on how offset derivatives—such as a contract to buy offset credits at a future date for a determined price — will be monitored. This too would be left to the White House task force to figure out. It will be a tough task because the quality of offset projects is notoriously difficult to verify. Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) has described them as "fraught with opportunity for game playing, which will be fully exploited, I'm sure."

Offsets are a big problem, but their problems have nothing to do with derivatives.  They're a problem because it's really, really hard to insure that an offset (say, planting a million acres of trees in Brazil in order to make up for emitting a million tons of carbon) is real, that it's something that wouldn't have been done anyway, and that it's effectively monitored to make sure it's permanent.  Those are genuinely big issues, but they're issues that are inherent in the whole concept of offsets.  Making derivatives out of them doesn't change things much.

With all that said, the piece is worth a read.  I have my doubts that derivatives are really that big a problem in the carbon market, and in any case I'd just as soon see them regulated by the same mechanisms we come up with to regulate all the other derivative markets, rather than being treated as a one-off special.  Still, it's worth knowing about this stuff, and worth taking some time to address in the Waxman-Markey markup process.  For example, Bart Stupak's provisions for making sure carbon derivatives are exchange traded, which Rachel mentions in her article, are well worth trying to protect through the end of the legislative process.  After all, if Wall Street objects, it almost has to be a good thing, doesn't it?

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g. powell

A carbon tax doesn't raise

A carbon tax doesn't raise these concerns, that's why it's a better idea.

Recently, the drawbacks of market-based solutions have become more evident.

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Offsets, I don't get the problem

it's really, really hard to insure that an offset (say, planting a million acres of trees in Brazil in order to make up for emitting a million tons of carbon) is real, that it's something that wouldn't have been done anyway

The point of either cap-and-trade or carbon tax is to make emitting CO2 less profitable. The argument against offsets is that we don't want to make an already profitable activity, even more profitable because it offsets CO2 emission elsewhere. This seems no different from punishing CO2 generation that someone was going to stop anyway. If we set up a system of incentives and disincentives, some of them are going to be unnecessary, these things are always approximate anyhow. As long as we can avoid (too much) outright corruption, it makes more sense to worry about the overall efficiency and effectiveness of CO2 reduction, and less sense to micromanage the motives and intentions of each and every participant. (We get this same crap with our local school system -- we've got state standardized spending and outcome metrics, they tell us we're doing really well, so quit fussing about how much the superintendent is paid, OK?)

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Too Generous

You're being too kind to your co-writer, Morris. She obviously isn't competent to be writing about the matters she's addressing.

As you note, derivatives have long existed in other markets than financial—it's not simply that these recent examples are “derivatives” that was what was rotten about them; it's that they were misused and the supporting system around them, particularly the ratings agencies, were broken. As you say, the commodities markets have long used derivatives and they function very well and provide a necessary service. Just ask a farmer.

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carbon price volotility

Kevin: I was wondering if you might have any thoughts on this blogger's observations about cap/trade vs. a carbon tax. I know you've done a lot of work on this already, but he seems to make some pretty good points (for the record it's not clear to me there's a particularly good chance of a decent cap/trade bill making it to Obama's desk, never mind a carbon tax, but whatever):

http://makeanysense.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-argument-for-carbon-tax-or...

Kevin Drum

Jasper: I addressed most of

Jasper: I addressed most of those issues in my print piece on cap-and-trade. It's true that C&T produces price uncertainty, but Rognlie simply asserts without evidence that this is by far the most important consideration in carbon policy. That's a defensible point of view, but you have to do more than just say so. Besides, treating the subject solely from the point of view of finance, as he does, is much too narrow.

Ironically, one way to reduce price uncertainty with C&T is.....derivatives! That's how you reduce price uncertainty with any kind of commodity.

Investors deal with price uncertainty all the time, and in any case I think the price uncertainty associated with C&T is much exaggerated by its critics. It's not a reason to reject it.

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Thanks, Kevin.

And I'm going to re-read that piece you wrote.

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Friends of the Earth reply

Kevin, to address some of your points…

Here's where Chilton got the $2 trillion figure: In a recent speech, he noted that “we observe generally that in developed markets, futures trading is conservatively 10 times the size of the cash market for many commodities and can even be as great as 30 times that of the cash market for certain financial products. Even with the conservative assumption of 10 times the cash market, this would imply we are looking forward to a $2 trillion dollar futures market” That would be about 60-180 million contracts traded, and the upper end of that is equivalent to the volumes in the light sweet crude and natural gas markets combined.

I agree with your point that the key concern around offsets related to authenticity, additionality, etc. But I would say that turning offsets into derivatives products create an added layer of problems. It’s one thing for an offset to not reduce emissions and thus collapse in environmental and financial value (subprime carbon). But when an offset -- which has not yet been verified and credited -- has been bundled together with hundreds of others, split into tranches, and sold and resold deep into the secondary markets to investors who want exposure to this new “asset class,” and THEN it collapses in value, it becomes not just a problem for the planet but for institutional investors as well.

Regarding your point that carbon will essentially be like any other kind of commodity, and thus well-understood from a regulatory perspective, I would beg to differ. Since the carbon markets are a political construct, they have been designed with some rather unique twists. One example: the current version of the climate bill provides that if the price of carbon hits a certain trigger price, the govt will flood the market with more carbon commodities (allowances borrowed from future compliance years, and offsets from the international market). No other commodity market has something quite like that, and with every new twist to carbon market design, there is another opportunity for gaming.

Finally, I would agree with you that derivatives aren’t bad per se, and they help bona fide hedgers manage price volatility. But we don't need to design a volatile carbon market, we can actually design one to have stable and predictable prices (see Lloyd Dogget’s Safe Markets Act http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills...). This would eliminate much of the need for derivatives, provide all the environmental benefit we are looking for, and make it easier to regulate. But of course it would mean dramatically less profit for Wall Street brokers.

Michelle Chan, Friends of the Earth

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Cap and Trade Derivatives

If you enjoyed Goldman Sacs manipulation of Oil Commodities and the resulting $4.00 a gallon gas you will really love Cap and Trade Derivatives. All you need to know about this legislation is that Goldman Sacs wants it. The ultimate value of this new commodities market is estimated to be a trillion dollars a year. The combined revenues of all electricity providers is $320 billion a year.

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Derivatives have been around

Derivatives have been around forever, now they have a name - Derivatives. Previously derivatives were addressed as "in the future I will buy or sell product A for X amount. In some cases, I will leave myself an option to back out of the contract". Go back to B school Rachel.

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